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Post by russiandoll 02.04.13 16:00

from tvi24 :

On Tuesday the Court of Faro condemned Leonor Cipriano to seven
months in prison for making false statements to Justice, TV1 has learned. The
defendant is already serving a sentence of 16 years in prison for the
murder of her daughter Joana. Reading of the judgment was scheduled for
March 14, but the court postponed the date stating the need for
documentary evidence of this process earlier, in which Leonor Cipriano
accused several agents of beating her during interrogation. The mother of the child [who disappeared in the village of Figueira, Portimão,
September 12, 2004] presented different versions of the alleged assault
she suffered at the premises of the Judicial Police in Faro that same
year. Contradictory statements were made ​​during the trial that
investigated the inspectors in the 'Joana case' in 2009, which resulted in the
conviction of two of the five defendants in the case. The
collective judgment considered "egregious and relevant the contradictions
it incurred »Leonor Cipriano statements that produced the sessions of
the trial, although it had the" opportunity to reveal the truth. " The
court gave as proven aggression, although without having ascertained the
identity of the attackers. Gonçalo Amaral , former coordinator of the
Criminal Investigation Department of the PJ of Portimão, was acquitted
of the crime of failure to report abuse and sentenced to a year and a
half for the crime of making false allegations, were suspended for the
same period. António Nunes Cardoso The inspector was sentenced to two
years and three months for forgery of document, sentence suspended for
two years. Former agents PJ Paulo Pereira Cristovao Morgado Leonel
Marques and Paulo Marques Bom, who were accused of having tortured
Leonor Cipriano in interrogations conducted in PJ Faro, were acquitted.
Leonor Cipriano meets as her brother, João Cipriano, 16 years in prison
for murder and concealment of a corpse.

ETA have tried to improve on google translate, not complete sorry as I am very tired,so the latter part reads very awkwardly.

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Oh dear, Oh dear, Oh dear ! ! ! !
Spin that one, pinkie.
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Post by Guest 02.04.13 17:20

Hello PeterMac:

No need to: all Methodos files, proving the link (McCs-Methodo-false indictments against GA) have been taken by SY.
Remember the pictures of those SY employees, seen from the back carrying al those suspicious boxes?

I thought then, and I still think, that evidence of Methodos wrongdoings might be at risk, right away.

What are the odds of the trail of evidence against the McCs having gone cold since then?

I wouldn't want to bet my bottom dollar. In fact no dollar at all.

Anyone thinking along the same lines?
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I am thinking......in the interim period between this verdict and the London Marathon, there will be another sighting.

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Thank you for the info russiandollGreat News -  Trial of Leonara Cipriano begins today *UPDATE* Found GUILTY of making false statements - Page 2 3711883763



Here is the story in PT newspaper....


Leonor Cipriano sentenced to seven months in prison

http://www.jn.pt/PaginaInicial/Seguranca/Interior.aspx?content_id=3142000
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Post by ShuBob 02.04.13 19:32

Excellent news!

Please can anyone confirm if Amaral's conviction has been quashed? Thanks.
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http://www.publico.pt/sociedade/noticia/leonor-cipriano-condenada-a-sete-meses-de-prisao-por-falsas-declaracoes-1589891
Leonor Cipriano was sentenced on Tuesday to seven months in prison for false statements, advances TVI 24. Already serving a sentence of 16 years for the murder of her daughter Joana, vanished in September 2004, Leonor was now found to have wrongly accused agents of the Judicial Police assault during an interrogation.

Leonor Cipriano, who is currently serving 16 years in prison for murder and concealment of a corpse, gave contradictory statements about alleged abuse he had suffered at the premises of the Judicial Police (PJ) Faro during interrogation that was submitted in investigating the disappearance of her daughter, on September 12, in the village of Figueira, Portimão.

In the judgment of the case which was accused of misrepresenting the panel of judges deemed "flagrant contradictions and relevant it incurred" Leonor Cipriano during the trial, despite having had the "opportunity to reveal the truth." The court has, however, proved as aggression, without, however, having been proved the identity of the attackers.

In the same case, Gonçalo Amaral, former coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department of the PJ of Portimão, was acquitted of the crime of failure to report abuse and sentenced to a year and a half for the crime of making false allegations, were suspended for the same period . The inspector António Nunes Cardoso was sentenced to two years and three months for forgery of document, sentence suspended for two years.

In turn, the former agents of PJ Paulo Pereira Cristovao Morgado Leonel Marques and Paulo Marques Bom, all accused of having tortured Leonor Cipriano in interrogations, were acquitted.
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ShuBob wrote:Excellent news!

Please can anyone confirm if Amaral's conviction has been quashed? Thanks.



Yes, great news ShuBob, I too wondered about Mr Amaral's suspended sentence, the other 3 officers have already been exonerated, so surely he should be now. Meanwhile a certain lawyer who represented her is now in Brazil we are told.
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Post by sharonl 02.04.13 21:23

Leonor Cipriano sentenced to seven months in prison


The Court of Faro today condemned Leonor Cipriano to seven months in prison for having made false statements in the case in which five PJ inspectors accused of crimes of aggression and torture.
This penalty is in addition to the 16 years that the defendant complies with the murder of her daughter Joana - missing in the village of Figueira, Portimão, on 12 September 2004 - and which has served about half.

According to the court, it was proven that Leonor Cipriano lied about how officers beat him and submitted in court different versions of events that occurred during the interrogations he underwent in 2004, after the crime.

According to the judge who delivered the judgment today, despite not having taken oath, the defendant, acting as assistant, was warned that he could not miss the fact, at the risk of being punished, and if it did, "he did so because wanted "and consciously.

The court held that the illegality committed is "remarkable gravity" and is "above average degree", given the severe sentence that the defendant complies, the seriousness of the facts, the defendants and the quality of media coverage of the case.

"It is crystal clear that the defendant lacked the truth," the judgment, which highlights various contradictions as to how she was attacked and agents who were present at the interrogation room where he says he was assaulted.

The possibility of imposing a suspended sentence was dismissed because the court finds that, despite the heavy prison sentence that fulfills the defendant continued to show disrespect for the rules.

The court added that it would be "naive" to think that a "mere threat" of imprisonment contributes to the "recovery" of the defendant, who was waived today to appear in court to hear the reading of the judgment.

The contradictory statements about the attacks that were targeted were delivered between 2008 and 2009, during the trial of the inspectors who investigated the "Joana case" that resulted in the conviction of two of the five defendants in the case.

The court gave as proven assaults, though without finding the identity of the attackers.

Gonçalo Amaral, former coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department of the PJ of Portimão, was acquitted of the crime of failure to report abuse and sentenced to a year and a half for the crime of making false allegations, were suspended for the same period.

The inspector António Nunes Cardoso was sentenced to two years and three months for forgery of document, sentence suspended for two years.

The former agents of PJ Paulo Pereira Cristovao Morgado Leonel Marques and Paulo Marques Bom, who were accused of having tortured Leonor Cipriano in interrogations conducted in Faro PJ, were acquitted.

In prison, Leonor Cipriano attends the 9th. Secondary school and still has activity as placing labels on boxes of fruit, the court said, adding that the detainee did not receive visits from friends or family.

Leonor's brother, João Cipriano, also fulfills 16 years in prison for murder and concealment of a corpse.
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candyfloss wrote:
ShuBob wrote:Excellent news!

Please can anyone confirm if Amaral's conviction has been quashed? Thanks.



Yes, great news ShuBob, I too wondered about Mr Amaral's suspended sentence, the other 3 officers have already been exonerated, so surely he should be now. Meanwhile a certain lawyer who represented her is now in Brazil we are told.
What now for Marco Aragao Correia? Are there any possible charges?
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russiandoll wrote:I am thinking......in the interim period between this verdict and the London Marathon, there will be another sighting.

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Sitting on Bransun's (sic) knee on Tower bridge on April 21st 2013 waving to Kate and Jane?

"Meanwhile a certain lawyer who represented her is now in Brazil we are told."

Better set up a 'fund' to search for and investigate any 'sightings' of the lawyer!
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Post by tigger 03.04.13 8:28

To say that this is worth a read is an understatement - http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/09/open-letter-gonalo-amaral-wife-reacts.html
Please read the whole letter- written as a reaction to Kate saying in an Expresso Interview: …as a professional and as a person his behaviour has been a disgrace."
[...]
- 5 years ago, a child named Joana "disappeared". Her mother, just like you, Mrs Kate, tried to project the case into the media, but she didn't make it any further than SIC…

Eight days later, came the confessions and the evidence: during an incestuous act between mother and uncle, the child was beaten, then dismembered and her body dumped who knows where. Mother and uncle went to jail, in a process that was coordinated by Gonçalo Amaral and which earned them almost 20 years in jail, each. But let us go a bit back in time. The child died on the 12th of September. On Christmas eve, our family was reunited for prayer, when my husband asked me to prepare a bag with some food and warm clothes, because he had not carried out his Christmas act of penance. Can you, Mrs Kate, imagine where Gonçalo Amaral went on that Christmas night under heavy rain and thunder? He went to the Olhão Prison, where João Cipriano, Joana's uncle, a confessed murderer and a clinically diagnosed psychopath, is detained. According to my husband, to simply offer an alimony to some beggar was not a sacrifice to him. The fact that he embraced and shared his Christmas meal with João Cipriano was the sacrifice that he offered to God, in memory of Joana. Is this not a disgrace? You should also know that every year, on the 12th of September, my husband has a mass celebrated in memory of Joana Isabel Cipriano Guerreiro. He says that nobody will ever remember the poor little girl again. Right, but they remember to unjustly accuse him of actions and crimes that he never committed. Isn't this a disgrace, Mrs Kate?
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Post by Liz Eagles 03.04.13 9:32

tigger wrote:To say that this is worth a read is an understatement - http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/09/open-letter-gonalo-amaral-wife-reacts.html
Please read the whole letter- written as a reaction to Kate saying in an Expresso Interview: …as a professional and as a person his behaviour has been a disgrace."
[...]
- 5 years ago, a child named Joana "disappeared". Her mother, just like you, Mrs Kate, tried to project the case into the media, but she didn't make it any further than SIC…

Eight days later, came the confessions and the evidence: during an incestuous act between mother and uncle, the child was beaten, then dismembered and her body dumped who knows where. Mother and uncle went to jail, in a process that was coordinated by Gonçalo Amaral and which earned them almost 20 years in jail, each. But let us go a bit back in time. The child died on the 12th of September. On Christmas eve, our family was reunited for prayer, when my husband asked me to prepare a bag with some food and warm clothes, because he had not carried out his Christmas act of penance. Can you, Mrs Kate, imagine where Gonçalo Amaral went on that Christmas night under heavy rain and thunder? He went to the Olhão Prison, where João Cipriano, Joana's uncle, a confessed murderer and a clinically diagnosed psychopath, is detained. According to my husband, to simply offer an alimony to some beggar was not a sacrifice to him. The fact that he embraced and shared his Christmas meal with João Cipriano was the sacrifice that he offered to God, in memory of Joana. Is this not a disgrace? You should also know that every year, on the 12th of September, my husband has a mass celebrated in memory of Joana Isabel Cipriano Guerreiro. He says that nobody will ever remember the poor little girl again. Right, but they remember to unjustly accuse him of actions and crimes that he never committed. Isn't this a disgrace, Mrs Kate?
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What an incredible letter. This earns a very high profile on the forum - is there anyway it can be flagged up?

Tigger, a great post.
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Post by PeterMac 03.04.13 9:56

aquila wrote:On Christmas eve, our family was reunited for prayer, when my husband asked me to prepare a bag with some food and warm clothes, because he had not carried out his Christmas act of penance. Can you, Mrs Kate, imagine where Gonçalo Amaral went on that Christmas night under heavy rain and thunder? He went to the Olhão Prison, where João Cipriano, Joana's uncle, a confessed murderer and a clinically diagnosed psychopath, is detained. According to my husband, to simply offer an alimony to some beggar was not a sacrifice to him. The fact that he embraced and shared his Christmas meal with João Cipriano was the sacrifice that he offered to God, in memory of Joana.
There is clearly a difference between being " A Christian" and being christian.
The first involves telling the world about it.
The second carrying out the duties laid upon you by your faith.
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sharonl wrote:
candyfloss wrote:
ShuBob wrote:Excellent news!

Please can anyone confirm if Amaral's conviction has been quashed? Thanks.



Yes, great news ShuBob, I too wondered about Mr Amaral's suspended sentence, the other 3 officers have already been exonerated, so surely he should be now. Meanwhile a certain lawyer who represented her is now in Brazil we are told.
What now for Marco Aragao Correia? Are there any possible charges?



This is in relation to Marco Correia, Cipriano's lawyer from 2008.......



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‘Spanish detectives asked me to arrange for evidence against Gonçalo Amaral’



http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/12/spanish-detectives-asked-me-to-arrange.html
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Post by Liz Eagles 03.04.13 11:09

PeterMac wrote:
aquila wrote:On Christmas eve, our family was reunited for prayer, when my husband asked me to prepare a bag with some food and warm clothes, because he had not carried out his Christmas act of penance. Can you, Mrs Kate, imagine where Gonçalo Amaral went on that Christmas night under heavy rain and thunder? He went to the Olhão Prison, where João Cipriano, Joana's uncle, a confessed murderer and a clinically diagnosed psychopath, is detained. According to my husband, to simply offer an alimony to some beggar was not a sacrifice to him. The fact that he embraced and shared his Christmas meal with João Cipriano was the sacrifice that he offered to God, in memory of Joana.
There is clearly a difference between being " A Christian" and being christian.
The first involves telling the world about it.
The second carrying out the duties laid upon you by your faith.

Hi PeterMac, I think you've got your quotes a bit mixed up. I didn't write this, it's Mrs. Amaral's letter.
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Post by russiandoll 03.04.13 11:46

FAO those on twitter and the abduction- believer sites who are infuriated by this latest "miscarriage of justice in the fascist state that is Portugal". You seem to have misread the report of the verdict, by quoting one line " the aggression is proven " on which to base your opinion that the torture is still accepted as fact but LC is deemed a perjurer due to not being able to identify those who harmed her.
The quote above was a reference to the court findings in 2009, not the verdict of a couple of days ago.

Here is a translation from Expresso, just to make it clear that the court does not accept the torture as proven, and conclude that she has lied about the alleged events.

Faro, 02 Apr (AP) - The Court of Faro today condemned Leonor Cipriano to seven months in prison for having made ​​false statements in the case in which she accused five PJ inspectors of crimes of aggression and torture.

This penalty is in addition to the 16 years that the defendant complies with the murder of her daughter Joana - missing in the village of Figueira, Portimão, the September 12, 2004 - of which she has served about half.

According to the court, it was proven that Leonor Cipriano lied about how officers beat her and submitted in court different versions of events that occurred during the interrogation she underwent in 2004, after the crime.



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Post by plebgate 04.04.13 21:09

it was clear from the reports we were receivingfrom Portugal in 2009 that the wrong verdict was given- imo anyway.

I believe that if it had been tried in UK it would have been thrown out due to the differing version of events.
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http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/tio-de-joana-nao-assume-crime094933257

Bit of a crummy translation, but the message is clear.
Court of Execution of Sentences believes that João Cipriano assumes the crime, victimization and it shows no empathy for the victim.
June 9, 2014, 9:49 a.m.
By: John Tavares
The Court of Execution of Sentences Lisbon rejected the application for parole of John Cipriano, currently fulfilling 16 years and eight months in prison for killing niece Joana Cipriano, eight, missing since September 12, 2004 the city of Figueira, Portimão.
The girl's body was never found, but John and sister Leonor - mother of the child - just condemned by the Court of Portimão, after a jury trial, of murder and concealment of a body of the child.
In late September 2013, the uncle of Joana fulfilled half of the sentence.
However, the court concluded that some assumptions are not met for parole: John assumes the practice of criminal acts, externalize feelings of victimization, shows no empathy for the victim, have joined and have four while inmate disciplinary sanctions. João Cipriano Carregueira serving time in the jail, in Sintra.
According to the judgment, "would be incomprehensible and counterproductive to society than someone who is responsible for the commission of such a crime as that for which the inmate was convicted benefit of parole once reached the middle of the pen."
Joan have been killed after seeing mom and uncle in incestuous act. Have been dismembered and thrown to the pigs.
In 2009 Leonor blamed his brother for the crime. He had already done the same.


One comment which roughly translated says, "This lot are inside. The McCanns are enjoying the money they got from their daughter's death."
"Estes foram dentro... os McCann gozam dos rendimentos que tiveram com a morte da filha."

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Post by ultimaThule 10.06.14 16:49

The words 'fair comment' come to mind, PeterM, as does the saying that ill-gotten gains don't last long.  yes 
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Post by j.rob 12.06.14 10:31

Page 348 of Madeleine, Kate writes: 

"Goncalo Amaral has been convicted of falsifying statements and has coordinated investigations into the disappearance of two little girls, neither of whom has been found. Why is this man being allowed a platform from which to peddle his absurd and offensive ideas? They say what goes around comes around. For Madeleine's sake, I certainly hope so."


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Post by jozi 12.06.14 11:09

j.rob wrote:Page 348 of Madeleine, Kate writes: 

"Goncalo Amaral has been convicted of falsifying statements and has coordinated investigations into the disappearance of two little girls, neither of whom has been found. Why is this man being allowed a platform from which to peddle his absurd and offensive ideas? They say what goes around comes around. For Madeleine's sake, I certainly hope so."


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 I think we all do Kate !!!
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