Re: Rebekah Brooks charged with perverting the course of justice

by **PeterMac** 18.05.12 12:39

So if Brooks slagged off the entire legal profession, as a whole, individually and jointly, she could therefore not be prosecuted by anyone, ever ?
Is that right ?

by bobbin 18.05.12 13:01

PeterMac wrote:So if Brooks slagged off the entire legal profession, as a whole, individually and jointly, she could therefore not be prosecuted by anyone, ever ?
Is that right ?

That's obviously the safest way to go to avoid jail and live your life to the fullest.
Every crime in the book is now legitimate.
Kill the judge's wife, he's got a grudge against you. Rape the prosecuter's sister, he's taking it out on you. Burn the jurors' houses, they've got you marked.

Well, bless me, and I was thinking we should all be promoting a good and honest way of life. Rebekah Brooks charged with perverting the course of justice - Page 4 110921

Rebekah Brooks charged with perverting the course of justice - Page 4 110921

by Woofer 18.05.12 13:38

She`s also affronted at how the Crown Prosecutor has involved her ex-employees and husband in the charges .........

Rebekah Brooks charged with perverting the course of justice - Page 4 2699404744

Rebekah Brooks charged with perverting the course of justice - Page 4 2699404744

no deary ............. it was YOU who involved them

another narcissist it seems.

by **PeterMac** 18.05.12 13:40

As my old DI used to say, Lincoln Prison is full of people who pleaded Not Guilty.

by Woofer 18.05.12 14:15

After her unsuccessful attempt to try and discredit Alison Levitt, I bet there will be more similar shots fired from the Brooks` camp.

All she`s doing is showing herself up to be a cornered rat firing in all directions and I`m sure the powers that be can see through her. It`s not even that clever - rather childish in fact.

by aiyoyo 18.05.12 15:47

tiny wrote:A spokesman for Mrs Brooks declined to comment. However, speaking on Tuesday, Mrs Brooks said she was “baffled” by the decision to charge her.

I think rb thought she had every one in her pocket with this sentence,but only time will tell.

Well she can continue to be baffled when they put her in jail and throw away the key. Someone like her will never wake up to her mistakes, maybe jail term will make her reflect harder about it.

Her case will be tried on it merits, nothing to do with who be the Prosecutor. Her expensive lawyers might have come up with the strategy of digging dirts on the Prosecutor, but at the end of the day if evidence against her is strong, CPS can always re-assign prosecutor and it wont change a thing.

How can she not understand thousands of victims are angry at her for hacking them. Although she didn't soil her hands doing the lowly mundane operational bits she masterminds it nonetheless. She must have, she was CEO after all. Even if say she was not originator of the idea she approved it. As CEO the bucks stop at her so she is fully responsible, no good pushing the blame - it wont gel with the Judge. She was paid handsomely for carrying out the criminal activities for Murdoch. Evidently she had no qualm about it, so she deserves all that is coming to her, and more - I hope she is charged for Hacking and also for corruption of Police.

This is a woman whose Papers supported/sponsored the Police Bravery Awards that honors GM where he was guest of honor.
Who in the Police Authority has the power to decide to confer Gerry with the Bravery Award? More importantly, w
was it done at the behest of RB, in similar fashion she did to Cameron "do as I say, or else"?
Did RB speak directly to the ex-Police Commissioner, Yates, who it was alleged was associated to RB or seen enjoying Murdoch's company? Can anyone refresh their memory was it Yates or his deputy who was involved with Murdoch?

IMO Leveson Inquiry should look into the involvement between RB (NI) and Police in regard to Police Bravery Award that honors a man who admitted to having left his children alone, managed to lose his first born, while he was out getting pissed? It's a bloody farcical giving him the award which must infuriate many dedicated and devoted long standing members who had served the Police Force for years, more deserving of the award but had to watch a liar steal their prize just because of who he knows.

by aiyoyo 18.05.12 16:09

Woofer wrote:After her unsuccessful attempt to try and discredit Alison Levitt, I bet there will be more similar shots fired from the Brooks` camp.

All she`s doing is showing herself up to be a cornered rat firing in all directions and I`m sure the powers that be can see through her. It`s not even that clever - rather childish in fact.

Using smear tactics is not going to work. The papers she used to run was very adept at smearing people that they resorted to hacking to obtain smear materials for that objective. And, now she's has stupidly gone and proved she hasn't left her unethical and scrupulous way behind despite her resignation. This not going to help her defense.

by FH 18.05.12 16:15

aiyoyo wrote:
Woofer wrote:After her unsuccessful attempt to try and discredit Alison Levitt, I bet there will be more similar shots fired from the Brooks` camp.

All she`s doing is showing herself up to be a cornered rat firing in all directions and I`m sure the powers that be can see through her. It`s not even that clever - rather childish in fact.

Using smear tactics is not going to work. The papers she used to run was very adept at smearing people that they resorted to hacking to obtain smear materials for that objective. And, now she's has stupidly gone and proved she hasn't left her unethical and scrupulous way behind despite her resignation. This not going to help her defense.

Wonder if anyone thought to hack her phones and e-mail accounts. Just to cover their own backs.

by jd 18.05.12 16:15

Max Mosely, Mrs Brooks

by friedtomatoes 18.05.12 17:40

Off topic here, but I came across this on my google travels, for anyone collecting articles,it has some info on those lawyers as well as a fair bit on the mccann story. Ive never seen it before.

http://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/assets/files/news/Evening%20Standard%2029%20Sept%2007.pdf

by jay2001 18.05.12 19:47

Just had a quick look at mccannfiles and the police bravery awards weekend. GM flew alone to London and 2 days later KM and twins with MWright flew in for the Skipton christening. GM and KM flew back the following day - presumably without checking in at home.

The award must've been chosen by RBrooks because imo no-one in their right mind would've voted for a man who left 3 youngsters alone. It goes against every rule for taking care of babies and toddlers and is certainly way beyond reasonable parenting. The other nominees must've been saddened to see this award demeaned. What was the criteria for nominations. The quick google shows plenty of policemen/women who've gone above and beyond the call of duty to qualify for a bravery award.

Why was GM deemed to be brave? What the hell had he done - it's just beyond belief. If there even was an abductor he wasn't wrestled to the ground when walking at the top of the road in full view of JT. So who chooses the winner? Was it RBrooks or was it the police who judged. Whoever it was I'd love to know their reasoning.

by Guest 18.05.12 20:06

jay2001 wrote:Just had a quick look at mccannfiles and the police bravery awards weekend. GM flew alone to London and 2 days later KM and twins with MWright flew in for the Skipton christening. GM and KM flew back the following day - presumably without checking in at home.

The award must've been chosen by RBrooks because imo no-one in their right mind would've voted for a man who left 3 youngsters alone. It goes against every rule for taking care of babies and toddlers and is certainly way beyond reasonable parenting. The other nominees must've been saddened to see this award demeaned. What was the criteria for nominations. The quick google shows plenty of policemen/women who've gone above and beyond the call of duty to qualify for a bravery award.

Why was GM deemed to be brave? What the hell had he done - it's just beyond belief. If there even was an abductor he wasn't wrestled to the ground when walking at the top of the road in full view of JT. So who chooses the winner? Was it RBrooks or was it the police who judged. Whoever it was I'd love to know their reasoning.

I don't think he was given an award as such, he was a guest speaker, notice he is not mentioned on the Police website for that evening..........

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3061-the-sun-police-bravery-awards-2007

http://content.met.police.uk/News/Police-Bravery-Awards-winners/1260267583138/1257246745756

by jay2001 18.05.12 20:23

Thanks Candyfloss - should've checked here first before my rant! Still think it was weird to invite him and wonder who first stood up and started the ~~mexican wave~~ ovation. Thank goodness some genuine heroes won awards.

by **Tony Bennett** 18.05.12 20:50

PeterMac wrote:http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/press_statements/charging_announcement_in_relation_to_offences_of_perverting_the_course_of_justice_against_rebekah_brooks_and_others/

Charging announcement in relation to offences of perverting the course of justice against Rebekah Brooks and others

15/05/2012

Alison Levitt, QC, Principal Legal Advisor to the Director of Public Prosecutions, oversees CPS decision making, and all potential prosecutions, in relation to the ongoing phone hacking investigations and other related matters.

Miss Levitt said: "This statement is made in the interests of transparency and accountability to explain the decisions reached in respect of allegations that Rebekah Brooks conspired with her husband, Charles Brooks, and others to pervert the course of justice.

"The Crown Prosecution Service received a file of evidence from the Metropolitan Police Service on 27th March 2012 in relation to seven suspects:

Rebekah Brooks;
Charles Brooks;
Cheryl Carter - Mrs Brooks' personal assistant; [and others]...

CHARGE 1 - CONSPIRACY TO PERVERT THE COURSE OF JUSTICE
Rebekah Brooks between 6th July and 19th July 2011 conspired with Charles Brooks, Cheryl Carter, Mark Hanna, Paul Edwards, Daryl Jorsling and persons unknown to conceal material from officers of the Metropolitan Police Service.

CHARGE 2 - CONSPIRACY TO PERVERT THE COURSE OF JUSTICE
Rebekah Brooks and Cheryl Carter between 6th July and 9th July 2011 conspired together permanently to remove seven boxes of material from the archive of News International.

[OTHER CHARGES]...

Details have emerged on the Essex grapevine about some of the events which led to the above charges. Cheryl Carter, from the Upminster area, was held at an Essex Police Station, believed to have been Brentwood, before beinn charged, as several newsapers reported.

The Guardian story which directly triggered the closure of the News of the World was published on 4 July last year.

You'll see that the charge sheet against Rebekah Broks and her personal assistant Cheryl Carter alleged that they conspired to pervert the course of justuce between the dates of 6 and 9 July.

Sources close to Cheryl Carter (sorry, can't say more than that) have revealed that acting on a tip-off, police raided the homes of both women during this period and in ecah case found a number of computers in their respective dustbins. I am sure we shall hear the full details of all this in due course.

Unless, of course, they decide to plead 'guilty'.

by Ribisl 18.05.12 21:02

Aiyoyo wrote: Well she can continue to be baffled when they put her in jail and throw away the key. Someone like her will never wake up to her mistakes, maybe jail term will make her reflect harder about it.

I may be accused of being cynical but I tend to think there are some people in this world that are so self-interested and socially ambitious that they fail to develop the essential value system that is fundamental to shared common decency in a human society.

I have met many highly ambitious people, set on improving their material weath and their social standing, so single-mindedly strive to achieve their goals. They are smart enough to do 'empathy', or 'charity' as means of advancing their own self-esteem, but without truly feeling.

I put RB in this category. She may bitterly regret having been caught and may even feel a little sorry for herself. But feeling for the others? Not, likely. She will probably be scheming on revenge for when she gets out.

by Guest 18.05.12 21:06

Tony Bennett wrote:
PeterMac wrote:http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/press_statements/charging_announcement_in_relation_to_offences_of_perverting_the_course_of_justice_against_rebekah_brooks_and_others/

Charging announcement in relation to offences of perverting the course of justice against Rebekah Brooks and others

15/05/2012

Alison Levitt, QC, Principal Legal Advisor to the Director of Public Prosecutions, oversees CPS decision making, and all potential prosecutions, in relation to the ongoing phone hacking investigations and other related matters.

Miss Levitt said: "This statement is made in the interests of transparency and accountability to explain the decisions reached in respect of allegations that Rebekah Brooks conspired with her husband, Charles Brooks, and others to pervert the course of justice.

"The Crown Prosecution Service received a file of evidence from the Metropolitan Police Service on 27th March 2012 in relation to seven suspects:

Rebekah Brooks;
Charles Brooks;
Cheryl Carter - Mrs Brooks' personal assistant; [and others]...

CHARGE 1 - CONSPIRACY TO PERVERT THE COURSE OF JUSTICE
Rebekah Brooks between 6th July and 19th July 2011 conspired with Charles Brooks, Cheryl Carter, Mark Hanna, Paul Edwards, Daryl Jorsling and persons unknown to conceal material from officers of the Metropolitan Police Service.

CHARGE 2 - CONSPIRACY TO PERVERT THE COURSE OF JUSTICE
Rebekah Brooks and Cheryl Carter between 6th July and 9th July 2011 conspired together permanently to remove seven boxes of material from the archive of News International.

[OTHER CHARGES]...
Details have emerged on the Essex grapevine about some of the events which led to the above charges. Cheryl Carter, from the Upminster area, was held at an Essex Police Station, believed to have been Brentwood, before beinn charged, as several newsapers reported.

The Guardian story which directly triggered the closure of the News of the World was published on 4 July last year.

You'll see that the charge sheet against Rebekah Broks and her personal assistant Cheryl Carter alleged that they conspired to pervert the course of justuce between the dates of 6 and 9 July.

Sources close to Cheryl Carter (sorry, can't say more than that) have revealed that acting on a tip-off, police raided the homes of both women during this period and in ecah case found a number of computers in their respective dustbins. I am sure we shall hear the full details of all this in due course.

Unless, of course, they decide to plead 'guilty'.

Tony this story was in the papers last July, I put it on the forum then I think.............

Brooks and mystery of dumped bag: Laptop, phone and papers 'belonging to husband' found in bin near couple's London home

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2016268/Rebekah-Brooks-Laptop-phone-papers-belonging-husband-Charlie-bin.html#ixzz1vFmtry32

by **Tony Bennett** 18.05.12 21:28

candyfloss wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
PeterMac wrote:http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/press_statements/charging_announcement_in_relation_to_offences_of_perverting_the_course_of_justice_against_rebekah_brooks_and_others/

Charging announcement in relation to offences of perverting the course of justice against Rebekah Brooks and others

15/05/2012

Alison Levitt, QC, Principal Legal Advisor to the Director of Public Prosecutions, oversees CPS decision making, and all potential prosecutions, in relation to the ongoing phone hacking investigations and other related matters.

Miss Levitt said: SNIPPED
Details have emerged on the Essex grapevine about some of the events which led to the above charges. Cheryl Carter, from the Upminster area, was held at an Essex Police Station, believed to have been Brentwood, before beinn charged, as several newsapers reported.

The Guardian story which directly triggered the closure of the News of the World was published on 4 July last year.

You'll see that the charge sheet against Rebekah Broks and her personal assistant Cheryl Carter alleged that they conspired to pervert the course of justuce between the dates of 6 and 9 July.

Sources close to Cheryl Carter (sorry, can't say more than that) have revealed that acting on a tip-off, police raided the homes of both women during this period and in ecah case found a number of computers in their respective dustbins. I am sure we shall hear the full details of all this in due course.

Unless, of course, they decide to plead 'guilty'.

Tony this story was in the papers last July, I put it on the forum then I think.............

Brooks and mystery of dumped bag: Laptop, phone and papers 'belonging to husband' found in bin near couple's London home

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2016268/Rebekah-Brooks-Laptop-phone-papers-belonging-husband-Charlie-bin.html#ixzz1vFmtry32

candyfloss, that's right, I was pretty sure it had been in the papers at the time, which is why I felt safe in giving out these details again now. Cheryl Carter has been speaking locally (Upminster, Essex) about what happened when she was raided. She may of course be able to rely on what has become known as 'The Nuremberg defence': "I was under orders"

by friedtomatoes 18.05.12 21:39

She got a right pasting on Have I Got News for You on BBC1 tonight!
big grin

It should be available on Iplayer at some stage.

by jd 18.05.12 22:15

friedtomatoes wrote:She got a right pasting on Have I Got News for You on BBC1 tonight!

It should be available on Iplayer at some stage.

I watched this too, she did. The look on Ian Hislop and Ken Livingstone faces when they first mentioned her just said it all. I'd love to know what Ian Hislop knows

So Ken Livingstone has met rebekah brooks once, 5 years ago at a film premiere....2 days after this he gets a call from her saying she had a story on him having found his lovechild and what did he want to say about it!......This is such a good example of how she and NOTW/Sun operated

I loved the joke that rebekah brooks must be shocked to be arrested because when the police call at rebekah brooks home, its normally to give her a story!

by friedtomatoes 18.05.12 22:25

jd they were all brilliant
and it went on for ages
lol!

i think thats her finished, and not before time,goodnight

by jd 18.05.12 22:29

What does cameron think texting brooks IMHO means - Is My Horse Outside big grin

by **PeterMac** 18.05.12 23:41

Tony Bennett wrote:She may of course be able to rely on what has become known as 'The Nuremberg defence': "I was under orders"

My recollection is that that particular defence didn't work !

by aiyoyo 19.05.12 17:14

candyfloss wrote:
jay2001 wrote:Just had a quick look at mccannfiles and the police bravery awards weekend. GM flew alone to London and 2 days later KM and twins with MWright flew in for the Skipton christening. GM and KM flew back the following day - presumably without checking in at home.

The award must've been chosen by RBrooks because imo no-one in their right mind would've voted for a man who left 3 youngsters alone. It goes against every rule for taking care of babies and toddlers and is certainly way beyond reasonable parenting. The other nominees must've been saddened to see this award demeaned. What was the criteria for nominations. The quick google shows plenty of policemen/women who've gone above and beyond the call of duty to qualify for a bravery award.

Why was GM deemed to be brave? What the hell had he done - it's just beyond belief. If there even was an abductor he wasn't wrestled to the ground when walking at the top of the road in full view of JT. So who chooses the winner? Was it RBrooks or was it the police who judged. Whoever it was I'd love to know their reasoning.

I don't think he was given an award as such, he was a guest speaker, notice he is not mentioned on the Police website for that evening..........

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3061-the-sun-police-bravery-awards-2007

http://content.met.police.uk/News/Police-Bravery-Awards-winners/1260267583138/1257246745756

I dont think you are right Candyfloss. From the link to an article I posted earlier from someone called "himself" it seems Gerry Mccann was guest of honour, a speaker, as well as given an award at the Police Bravery Awards where he got a standing ovation. I stand corrected of course.

This is extracts of the mentioned article.

Madeleine's father hails UK police Friday, 13 Jul 2007

The father of missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann has praised the "sterling work" of police officers and detectives in the UK.

Speaking at the National Police Federation annual bravery awards last night, Gerry McCann said the role of police forces was "often not appreciated until you really need their help".

Leaving his wife Kate and two young twins behind in Portugal, Mr McCann has flown to Britain to talk to police involved in the search for his daughter. She remains missing after being abducted from her bed while she slept at a holiday resort in Praia da Luz, the Algarve, on May 3rd.

He will also visit the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre later today to discuss their role in aiding Portuguese police find Madeleine.
At last night's award ceremony, attended by Prince Charles, Mr McCann received a standing ovation from police officers, which he described as a "humbling" experience.

"The vast majority of [police officers] that I managed to speak to are, like us, very optimistic that we will find Madeleine safe and well," he wrote later on his online blog. more
- - -

And this from the inimitable Blackwatch.

Grooming the McCanns: Amber Alert, the Prüm Treaty and Government Interference in the McCann Case
Author Blackwatch 12/08/2009

How The Madeleine Case Supported the Extension of Amber Alert System and the EU's Prüm Treaty To The Remaining 27 Member States - And How Downing Street Obliged

In response to the question, how will the McCanns be remembered, one Mirror Forum member wrote:

“they will become a leading force in the world to get rid of the hidden evil in our society, and to out those who try to cover up for the tragedies these criminals can cause”.

For a couple who were at this time suspects in their daughter's disappearance, the statement brokered something of a paradox; just how could these two ordinary individuals who had been openly pilloried for their routine negligence transform themselves into credible figureheads for law-enforcement overnight? Within the time it took to finish one glass of wine and discover one of your children missing, the McCanns exchanged their prison-issue denims for outfits tailored to a more 'practical' design.

And what at first had sounded like a most absurd suggestion by one deluded forum member steadily acquired some semblance of authority.

GERRY IS HONOURED AT POLICE BRAVERY AWARDS FOR A LIFETIME (WELL 6 WEEKS OR SO) OF SERVICES TO … MISSING KIDS AND STUFF ... JULY 2007

Retracing our steps to mid-July 2007 and we find ourselves standing alongside hundreds of dumbfounded uniformed officers at the Dorchester Hotel, invited from our seats by senior personnel to applaud one Gerald P McCann at the Police Bravery Awards. First we’d had the poignant video of his daughter, then the speech praising both UK Officers and the Polícia Judiciária, now we had the standing ovation. And for what? Just what were we honouring? Gerry’s contribution to ‘what’ exactly? One of the serving South Yorkshire officers receiving an award there that night described it as one of the most surreal events of his life. Sitting at his table was none other than Gerry McCann, 1500 metre junior running medallist and celebrated kidnap personality. And he wasn’t just down on the guest-list; Gerry was guest of honour. It was like having Mark Stanley - the man responsible for shutting the doors on the Herald of Free Enterprise as it left Zeebrugge - guest-of honour at the annual Maritime and Coastguard awards.

by Guest 19.05.12 17:24

The second part of your post aiyoyo is that the bit from Joana Morais blog, one of the comments, I read it there the other day. GM made a speech and there was a video, for which he received a standing ovation. There is no mention of any award given as far as I can tell. What on earth would he get an award for?

by jmac 19.05.12 17:55

No I do not think there is a record of Gerry getting a medal.

But why did Gerry get a standing ovation at the Police Bravery Awards, just a few short weeks after the disappearance of his daughter, and shortly before he became a suspect in Madeleine`s disappearance?