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Post by Ribisl 20.03.12 22:22

tigger wrote:
Stella wrote:Tigger, I have done a word search within the Portuguese Forensic Report, for shoe and foot print and have come up with nothing, not one match. I think I know what you are referring to and it has to do with a newspaper reporter claiming to have seen a police report shown to them !!! but why would the PJ do that? Personally I do not think there is any weight in this story. The whole apartment was covered in foot prints that night, probably from trainers and a reporter was trying to create a sensational new story.

Hi Stella, I posted this yesterday I think? You're right it's based on a newspaper report, but I was under the impression that Little Morsals is quite dependable. They don't state it as fact, just what is presented.
Personally, I think a bloody footprint is a little over the top, but if that was the case, it would be probably one of the pieces of evidence that the PJ would not put in the public domain? I understand they have released less than half of their documents?

It's strange, the things Kate mentions and the ones she specifically doesn't mention. Like the mysterious brown stain on Maddie's pyjamas which had to be washed immediately, to what purpose are we being told these details? They are all non sequiturs.

http://littlemorsals.blogspot.com/2011/05/kate-mccann-book-my-new-pink-trainers.html



In her book she skips over her days and weeks giving away hardly any information, yet she goes into details about some trivial subjects such as training shoes, Madeleine's outfit, 'tea' stain, etc. I am inclined to think these are actually based on facts, though possibly with a fair amount of twisting I should say, because I frankly don't believe she is capable of writing an entire book of complete fiction. (Btw ditto for 'Why didn't you come...?'.)
Could it be, tigger, it's because she is having to conceal the most important truth that she is having to fill the vacuum with such trivial and often irrelevant facts?

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Post by tigger 21.03.12 5:58

It's either Blacksmith or Dr. Roberts who points out that Kate's daily activities in OC betray a certain loneliness - being apart from the action and from their friends.
This makes a lot of sense if the whole affair took off on the 28th or the 29th.

Some 'clues' such as the tea stain are presumably to indicate a filthy paedophile already having been in 5a on the night of the 2nd. Reminds me of a bad film where the camera homes in on such clues without explanation.

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Post by PeterMac 21.03.12 7:43

Just as a matter of interest - running along the beach is almost impossible.
It is very fine sand from the sandstone cliffs, which does not compact, even when wet.
So even if you stay on the part close to the sea your foot sinks as you try to walk.
Wonderful for serious training, but doubtful if you could manage more than 50 metres
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Post by russiandoll 21.03.12 9:31

not re the running shoes.

Why did Kate in her book describe Wed 2nd May as their" last completely happy day. The last, to date, as a family of five."
In the book she states Madeleine's question about the ignored crying was the morning of 3rd, about an episode the previous night. So they were a family of five on 3rd May if Maddie was at breakfast as claimed.

Now if she had written one sentence as follows, about 2nd May , it makes sense.

Our last completely happy day as a family of five.
[it was, in the context of what she claimed happened.......10pm the next day all that changed, so not totally happy]

That full stop makes for a whole different inference. The 2nd was the day something happened?
No comma, or semi-colon. A stand- alone sentence about the 2nd, separating it from the concept of complete happiness.

Simply translated: 2nd May was the last time they were a family of 5.
Maybe something happened that day, maybe Maddie's demise; maybe the last time she was physically present , even though not alive. She was still with them. Maybe this was the day she was moved, early hours 3rd.


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Post by Guest 21.03.12 9:38

russiandoll wrote: not re the running shoes.

Why did Kate in her book describe Wed 2nd May as their" last completely happy day. The last, to date, as a family of five."
In the book she states Madeleine's question about the ignored crying was the morning of 3rd, about an episode the previous night. So they were a family of five on 3rd May if Maddie was at breakfast as claimed.

Now if she had written one sentence as follows, about 2nd May , it makes sense.

Our last completely happy day as a family of five.
[it was, in the context of what she claimed happened.......10pm the next day all that changed, so not totally happy]

That full stop makes for a whole different inference. The 2nd was the day something happened?
No comma, or semi-colon. A stand- alone sentence about the 2nd, separating it from the concept of complete happiness.

Simply translated: 2nd May was the last time they were a family of 5.
Maybe something happened that day, maybe Maddie's demise; maybe the last time she was physically present , even though not alive. She was still with them. Maybe this was the day she was moved, early hours 3rd.


This is rather off topic russiandoll, and Dr Martin's new article mentions this, I wonder could you copy this post and put it here and delete this one. Thanks.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4578-a-line-in-the-sand-dr-martin-roberts-19-3-12#100394
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Post by worriedmum 10.06.16 0:34

I was looking at the video of Eddie and Keela and it struck me that there was no alert to Kate  McCann's pink trainers by the blood dog. Does anyone know whether they were examined?
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Post by tinkier 10.06.16 20:32

worriedmum wrote:I was looking at the video of Eddie and Keela and it struck me that there was no alert to Kate  McCann's pink trainers by the blood dog. Does anyone know whether they were examined?

I think the pink trainers may well have been "abducted"! Strange how they were never mentioned?
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Post by Nina 10.06.16 20:39

Never mentioned since to be sure.But a dog nip and blood was noted re the wearing of pink trainers. Maybe no trainers and no dog nip,  but blood.

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Post by worriedmum 10.06.16 21:09

I can't find the link to the video where the clothes are laid out on the floor of the underground car park, can anyone help?
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Post by Doug D 10.06.16 21:18

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http://www.mccannfiles.com/id161.html#aug4
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Post by worriedmum 11.06.16 0:46

Thanks,DougD, but for some reason it gives me an error warning when I try to open it...
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Post by Doug D 11.06.16 7:34

Sorry, try this:
 
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id161.html
   
On the full length video at about 58 minutes.
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Post by sharonl 11.06.16 10:54

worriedmum wrote:I was looking at the video of Eddie and Keela and it struck me that there was no alert to Kate  McCann's pink trainers by the blood dog. Does anyone know whether they were examined?

Thank you - I was wondering why Kate ever mentioned these shoes in the first place and why we have not seen them.  There are many pictures of Kate running but I have yet to see those pink trainers.  Has anyone else seen them?

If Madeleine died earlier in the week as many of us now believe and there was blood on these shoes, the nip on Kates' calf would be her explanation for it.

She was wearing the cadaver trousers later in the holiday.  Did the PJ return them or where there two pairs?  But what happened to the Pink trainers?  If the blood was from a mere nip on the calf, surely they could have been washed and worn again - they were dirty anyway, from the sand, according to Kate. Did she wear them later in the week?  Were they retained by the PJ? or were they ruined by a larger amount of blood?
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Post by Roxyroo 11.06.16 13:17

Or maybe her original pair had to begot rid off, so she wants us to believe the pink pair were worn since start of the holiday? Omo
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Post by Liz Eagles 11.06.16 14:27

Kate's feet. Does anyone remember Kate sitting on Lorraine Kelly's (fellow supporter of Missing People) sofa talking about her feet and the operations of yore whilst she was tirelessly training to do a marathon for Missing People and the upshot was Lorraine saying 'you're a finisher' and Kate saying 'yes'.

Oh Kate's feet have been featured. A PR company prompted a big thing on Kate's feet. Poor Kate with her bad feet and still running miles for missing people. Crikey, how many women who have a missing child sit on a telly sofa and talk about their feet? Ask Clarence.
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Post by spirals 11.06.16 19:59

I haven't read the book, but whenever I hear about this dog bite, I wonder if Kate got any kind of treatment. Because if I was ever bitten by one of those manky stray dogs in the Algarve, deep enough to draw blood, I would be really worried and possibly take myself to get a rabies shot. At least some antibiotics. And they were doctors - this isn't something they'd be blasé about.
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Post by Guest 11.06.16 20:02

Perhaps they had a supply of medicines with them, including antibiotics.

Although I don't believe the dog-bite story.
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Post by dottyaussie 11.06.16 20:21

Could these be the ones?

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The parents of Madeleine McCann, Gerry and Kate, pictured leaving the Bellavista Hotel in Praia de Luz, Portugal. on their way to be questioned by British Police. It is 101 days after the four year old went missing.
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Post by tinkier 11.06.16 21:44

spirals wrote:I haven't read the book, but whenever I hear about this dog bite, I wonder if Kate got any kind of treatment. Because if I was ever bitten by one of those manky stray dogs in the Algarve, deep enough to draw blood, I would be really worried and possibly take myself to get a rabies shot. At least some antibiotics. And they were doctors - this isn't something they'd be blasé about.

I wonder if her tetanus was up to date. ….if no tetanus in the last 5 years a booster would be required, especially when it comes to a bite from a stray dog in a foreign country, I certainly wouldn't take any chances. The pink trainers may have ended up in the same place as the fridge.
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Post by tinkier 11.06.16 21:53

dottyaussie wrote:Could these be the ones?

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The parents of Madeleine McCann, Gerry and Kate, pictured leaving the Bellavista Hotel in Praia de Luz, Portugal. on their way to be questioned by British Police. It is 101 days after the four year old went missing.

The way Kate described her "pink trainers" I had a vision of PINK.
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Post by dottyaussie 11.06.16 22:04

They could well be Kate's version of PINK and we know what Kate's version of things are like lol
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Post by sharonl 11.06.16 22:53

tinkier wrote:
dottyaussie wrote:Could these be the ones?

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The parents of Madeleine McCann, Gerry and Kate, pictured leaving the Bellavista Hotel in Praia de Luz, Portugal. on their way to be questioned by British Police. It is 101 days after the four year old went missing.

The way Kate described her "pink trainers" I had a vision of PINK.

I don't think it is, these are purple, grey and white (when you blow up the picture) and the photo is taken in August 2007. 

I don't know if Kate would have kept her trainers that long, especially as they were allegedly, already ruined by the sand etc. in May

Were the pink trainers around during the holiday?  More to the point, were they around after April 07?  They were new trainers, so why was she not wearing them later in the week?
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Just noticed this from The Daily Mail  13th September 2007 while I was looking at the list of info on Mrs Fenn in the other thread...
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Ooops sorry didn't quite come out like I attended, but you can still see what her so called "PINK" trainers look like... unless of course she had 2 pairs winkwink
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worriedmum wrote:Pink Running Shoes - Page 2 3BabyGoneL_468x181-1

Just noticed this from The Daily Mail  13th September 2007 while I was looking at the list of info on Mrs Fenn in the other thread...

All the pictures posted so far look like the same trainers. Not very "PINK" are they? Yet in her bewk, she put a lot of emphasis on the how pink they were.
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