Photographs and memories

tigger wrote:Hi, I've never seen that enormous solid and colourful chunk of text before? Surely you did't type that all out yourself?

Re the make up photo - I haven't had a look at that yet. I'll let you know. It's possible it was taken in Burgau.
Re the Pictures taken on the same day - magnificent resolution, full screen lots of pixels.

Re your earlier point on hair colour: Gerry, his nephew, his brother all had carrot coloured hair. Not auburn, and as far as I know, the gene for that doesn't ever go brown or auburn, but grey, quite early usually. Which I actually find a very pleasant colour, especially for men. I remarked a few times on Gerry dying his hair, simply because of the psychological aspect.

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tigger wrote:Hi, I've never seen that enormous solid and colourful chunk of text before? Surely you did't type that all out yourself?

Re the make up photo - I haven't had a look at that yet. I'll let you know. It's possible it was taken in Burgau.
Re the Pictures taken on the same day - magnificent resolution, full screen lots of pixels.

Re your earlier point on hair colour: Gerry, his nephew, his brother all had carrot coloured hair. Not auburn, and as far as I know, the gene for that doesn't ever go brown or auburn, but grey, quite early usually. Which I actually find a very pleasant colour, especially for men. I remarked a few times on Gerry dying his hair, simply because of the psychological aspect.

They are all on the sticky thread at the top of this forum, they are from the scrolling banner.

jd wrote:Personally ginger or whatever is irrelevant at this point to me, though there is pictures of gerry of having ginger hair but I don't see this having any baring on this scam. They found no DNA of Maddie in PDL, from a girl who had been there all week and all over the place isn't this odd? even more so the father had to go back to the UK to get some. The match was 15 out of 19 and the FSS soon closed down after this. With the dogs Eddie and Keela who are under contract to the FBI and earning £550 plus expenses per day with a 100% success rate in over 200 cases, they found only cadaver and blood on items exclusively only to the mccanns, nobody else but the mccanns. Ignore this at your perile, dogs do not lie and and are trained to do one thing. Of course the mccanns and their cronies are dismissing the dogs except when it comes to suit them in the car park in last weeks press ridicules. You should watch Hi De Ho's video of how these dogs find bodies, cadaver and blood, trained to find a body 200 feet under ground and ignoring meat in the exact spot within acres of land. Humans would never have found this body in a million years but the dogs took them straight to it, if you understand a dogs nose and sense of smell this will help understand why they have this skill

One thing tot remember is that the mccanns will always dismiss anything that will prove their story a scam, and like with everything else it is only 'their words' and never from evidence or facts. In 5 whole years there is not one single shred of evidence of an abduction

From all the available evidence I think Maddie died on April 30th/May 1st

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This topic got derailed several pages ago - started on photographs and went on to DNA and hair colour.
Long posts tend to do that if they cover several topics, it's hard to keep track.

One last point about the blessed hair colour. It is simply of interest because of the psychological aspect, it is unusual for a young man to do this, except when they are in the public eye. How they present themselves is relevant to the case imo.

Imo too, some of the posed photographs of Maddie are in very questionable taste. E.g. if you read some more, you'll find that the blue eyeshadow photo was taken 'after Maddie had raided Kate's make-up box'. Clearly not true, a toddler is not capable of doing it so perfectly.
If you take the trouble to check the double ice cream photo, it is the most obvious of the photoshopped images.
So it's only common sense not to take anything presented by TM as the gospel truth.

Re the book: there is not a single photograph of Maddie on holiday in PdL in the book.

jd wrote:Personally ginger or whatever is irrelevant at this point to me, though there is pictures of gerry of having ginger hair but I don't see this having any baring on this scam. They found no DNA of Maddie in PDL, from a girl who had been there all week and all over the place isn't this odd? even more so the father had to go back to the UK to get some. The match was 15 out of 19 and the FSS soon closed down after this. With the dogs Eddie and Keela who are under contract to the FBI and earning £550 plus expenses per day with a 100% success rate in over 200 cases, they found only cadaver and blood on items exclusively only to the mccanns, nobody else but the mccanns. Ignore this at your perile, dogs do not lie and and are trained to do one thing. Of course the mccanns and their cronies are dismissing the dogs except when it comes to suit them in the car park in last weeks press ridicules. You should watch Hi De Ho's video of how these dogs find bodies, cavader and blood, trained to find a body 200 feet under ground and ignoring meat in the exact spot within acres of land. Humans would never have found this body in a million years but the dogs took them straight to it, if you understand a dogs nose and sense of smell this will help understand why they have this skill

One thing tot remember is that the mccanns will always dismiss anything that will prove their story a scam, and like with everything else it is only 'their words' and never from evidence or facts. In 5 whole years there is not one single shred of evidence of an abduction

From all the available evidence I think Maddie died on April 30th/May 1st

Snifferdog wrote:Don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but it looks to me as though Madeleine had been crying in the blue eye shadow pic, which would cause the blue smears on her right cheek. Exactly where tears would course down, next to the fuller cheek pads alongside her nose. I think she is sitting on someones knee and the bright blue area to the right is the shoulder of the person whose lap she is sitting on (see crease on blue shirt). I know this photo has been the topic of much discussion but she looks unusually pale and her eyes look strange to me too - expressionless that is. One has to ask oneself why they published this photograph.

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Snifferdog wrote:Don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but it looks to me as though Madeleine had been crying in the blue eye shadow pic, which would cause the blue smears on her right cheek. Exactly where tears would course down, next to the fuller cheek pads alongside her nose. I think she is sitting on someones knee and the bright blue area to the right is the shoulder of the person whose lap she is sitting on (see crease on blue shirt). I know this photo has been the topic of much discussion but she looks unusually pale and her eyes look strange to me too - expressionless that is. One has to ask oneself why they published this photograph.

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On page two of this is a version of the photograph that enlarges to full screen. You'll find you're right.
However, the t-shirt behind her, I'm sure I've once seen more of it. The walls looks very much like the Burgau and in the icecream photo the blue is almost certainly a plastic chair.
Another poster commented on her very large right pupil but it's really both pupils, you can just se the rim of the left pupil. She looks drugged to me.

tigger wrote:

Snifferdog wrote:Don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but it looks to me as though Madeleine had been crying in the blue eye shadow pic, which would cause the blue smears on her right cheek. Exactly where tears would course down, next to the fuller cheek pads alongside her nose. I think she is sitting on someones knee and the bright blue area to the right is the shoulder of the person whose lap she is sitting on (see crease on blue shirt). I know this photo has been the topic of much discussion but she looks unusually pale and her eyes look strange to me too - expressionless that is. One has to ask oneself why they published this photograph.

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On page two of this is a version of the photograph that enlarges to full screen. You'll find you're right.
However, the t-shirt behind her, I'm sure I've once seen more of it. The walls looks very much like the Burgau and in the icecream photo the blue is almost certainly a plastic chair.
Another poster commented on her very large right pupil but it's really both pupils, you can just se the rim of the left pupil. She looks drugged to me.

rainbow-fairy wrote:

tigger wrote:

Snifferdog wrote:Don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but it looks to me as though Madeleine had been crying in the blue eye shadow pic, which would cause the blue smears on her right cheek. Exactly where tears would course down, next to the fuller cheek pads alongside her nose. I think she is sitting on someones knee and the bright blue area to the right is the shoulder of the person whose lap she is sitting on (see crease on blue shirt). I know this photo has been the topic of much discussion but she looks unusually pale and her eyes look strange to me too - expressionless that is. One has to ask oneself why they published this photograph.

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On page two of this is a version of the photograph that enlarges to full screen. You'll find you're right.
However, the t-shirt behind her, I'm sure I've once seen more of it. The walls looks very much like the Burgau and in the icecream photo the blue is almost certainly a plastic chair.
Another poster commented on her very large right pupil but it's really both pupils, you can just se the rim of the left pupil. She looks drugged to me.

I hope this doesn't sound pernickety, because I agree with what you've written tigger, BUT the poster that commented on the large pupil mentioned Maddie's left pupil. It would be on the right as you look at the photo, though!
The poster's assertion was that the pupil looks 'blown' indicative of a brain injury, also consistent with the 'if she had accidentally got bumped on the head' and 'plenty of doctors who could resuscitate a child' statements...

tigger wrote:

rainbow-fairy wrote:

tigger wrote:

Snifferdog wrote:Don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but it looks to me as though Madeleine had been crying in the blue eye shadow pic, which would cause the blue smears on her right cheek. Exactly where tears would course down, next to the fuller cheek pads alongside her nose. I think she is sitting on someones knee and the bright blue area to the right is the shoulder of the person whose lap she is sitting on (see crease on blue shirt). I know this photo has been the topic of much discussion but she looks unusually pale and her eyes look strange to me too - expressionless that is. One has to ask oneself why they published this photograph.

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On page two of this is a version of the photograph that enlarges to full screen. You'll find you're right.
However, the t-shirt behind her, I'm sure I've once seen more of it. The walls looks very much like the Burgau and in the icecream photo the blue is almost certainly a plastic chair.
Another poster commented on her very large right pupil but it's really both pupils, you can just se the rim of the left pupil. She looks drugged to me.

I hope this doesn't sound pernickety, because I agree with what you've written tigger, BUT the poster that commented on the large pupil mentioned Maddie's left pupil. It would be on the right as you look at the photo, though!
The poster's assertion was that the pupil looks 'blown' indicative of a brain injury, also consistent with the 'if she had accidentally got bumped on the head' and 'plenty of doctors who could resuscitate a child' statements...

You're right, I just PM'd FH because I couldn't remember which topic he'd mentioned it.
But if you blow up the photograph - you will see it's both pupils. As it happens (or on purpose) the light spot in the right pupil makes it look like the coloboma and a much smaller pupil. But you can trace the dark line of the pupil nearly all the way round and so both pupils are of equal size.
The other poster in the Burgau topic who suggested it was make up from a children's kit - much better excuse than Maddie rummaging in Kate's make up box. Shame she didn't think of that one. Too late now.

Snifferdog wrote:Yes I have looked at the photo now Tigger and agree that the pupils look the same size. The only other reasons for such large pupils would be if the photo were taken in the dark or if Madeleine was very myopic (short-sighted) and needed spectacles.

BTW I am a Snifferdawg who is a keen budding novelist and am currently thinking up a story along the lines of; a family of five who are in financial trouble. They hatch a plan to go on holiday with a powerful group who have certain unspeakable habits. They plan to farm out one of their children, the least loved one, (not sure here, maybe someone can help me with the storyline?) mmmmm lets see they either plan the demise, no I think it was not meant to go so far, but secret photos are taken and then later used to blackmail these powerful people into doing their will. Thereby making lots and lots of dosh. No scrap it, don't think I could ever write a story like that. It's just too disgusting.

Snifferdog wrote:Hi FH

That is a good possibility, I wonder how far apart the railings are, otherwise one would have to be standing quite close by for them not to show up. How about a hidden camera somewhere below Madeleine? She is not looking into the camera which is why I doubt it is a self photo done on a computer.