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Post by Verdi 01.10.20 22:17

pauloalexandre wrote:
Verdi wrote:Indeed, I think it is they who are behind all these latest 'ludicrous' press reports from home and away.
"Don't look here, look over there!"

It should also be noted, the source of a lot of this latest reportage is the Sun. The Sun have been staunch supporters of the McCann faction through thick and through thin.

It's in the McCanns interest that this charade be prolonged.

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Verdi wrote:Indeed, I think it is they who are behind all these latest 'ludicrous' press reports from home and away.
"Don't look here, look over there!"

It should also be noted, the source of a lot of this latest reportage is the Sun.  The Sun have been staunch supporters of the McCann faction through thick and through thin.
"The Sun" is possibly one of the worst tabloids that has ever existed!

Hell, I would even say it's not journalism.

I've lost count of how many times they called Mr. Amaral "shameless" or "tubby", or other infantile insults that they used.

Pity he didn't sue them and the other newspaper outlets for denigrating his persona.
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Post by Verdi 02.10.20 1:06

Gonçalo Amaral did have something to say about the insults leveled at him by the British media at some stage.

When I've got a moment, I'll see if I can find it.

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Post by Verdi 02.10.20 1:16

This not what I refer to but it's a good starting point..

https://thecompletemysteryofmadeleinemccann.blogspot.com/2019/07/adjectives-used-by-british-press-to.html

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Post by Silentscope 02.10.20 10:02

I hope sincerely that when and if this Story ever reaches a Conlusion that all Persons who have been REALLY LIBELLED, or affected by it get their Compensation!

From the OC Staff who were laid off, to Dr. Amaral and the whole of Portugal.
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Post by Lance De Boils 03.10.20 10:42

Silentscope wrote:I hope sincerely that when and if this Story ever reaches a Conlusion that all Persons who have been REALLY LIBELLED, or affected by it get their Compensation!

From the OC Staff who were laid off, to Dr. Amaral and the whole of Portugal.

I'm with you on that.
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Post by Verdi 09.10.20 1:51

TIME TO STOP LOOKING'

Ex-boss of Madeleine McCann suspect sensationally claimed ‘we all know’ what happened to the missing toddler

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  • 11 Jun 2020, 7:30
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THE boss and former pal of Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B sensationally claimed "we all know" what happened to the missing tot.

Tiziano Ilg hired the fellow German at his restaurant when the paedophile suddenly turned up in the remote village of Foral in the weeks following Maddie's disappearance.

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Tiziano Ilg, now in his late 60s, hired Christian B just weeks after Maddie's disappearanceCredit: Unknown


Ilg, now in his late 60s and still living in the region, has kept a low profile since German police identified his old worker as a prime suspect in Maddie's case.

And it's understood he has not spoken to police about his fellow countryman.

But in 2016 the former restaurateur claimed it was "time to stop looking" for three-year-old Madeleine, who disappeared some 40miles away from his Foral restaurant.

Responding to an online news article about her disappearance, Ilg cryptically said: "It's time to stop looking and stop imagining.

"We all know."

PRIME SUSPECT


The comment was made on his secret Facebook profile, which is listed under another name.
The profile has just 12 friends.

It was widely thought that Ilg went back to his native Germany after selling the Foral restaurant to a new owner in 2013.
But The Sun can reveal he still lives in the area, in nearby Tunes.

Yesterday, we reported how the British ex-girlfriend of Christian B claimed the night before the toddler’s abduction he told her: “I have a horrible job to do in Praia da Luz tomorrow.”

She also told how she asked him if he snatched Madeleine McCann — and he warned: “Just don’t go there.”

Meanwhile, Christian B will NOT give any information about the case, his lawyer said yesterday.

The 43-year-old was named as a prime suspect in the investigation after the three-year-old Brit toddler went missing 13 years ago.

His lawyer Friedrich Fülscher, who represents the suspect together with the Hamburg lawyer Johann Schwenn, told RTL today: "Christian B is not making any statements on the case at the moment."

He said he had visited his client at the Kiel Penitentiary, where the 43-year-old German was being held in solitary confinement, it was reported.

But so far he is saying absolutely nothing to officers, he is keeping schtum
Source close to the investigation

When asked how his client was doing, Fülscher replied: "How should a person be doing who is isolated in a prison and accused of the worst crimes by half the world's population?"

Christian B is now the prime suspect in the infamous 2007 disappearance with prosecutors in Germany investigating him "on suspicion of murder".

They sensationally revealed last week they believe Madeleine is dead and know how she was killed - despite no body being found.

The German prosecutor leading the investigation believe the little girl was killed soon after she was snatched.

'BREAK IN'


Christian B is also said to have boasted about torture and destroying evidence in an online conversation with another paedophile.

He also reportedly broke into his British ex’s flat sparking chilling echoes of the Madeleine case.

The convicted sex fiend was so insanely jealous he hid under the woman’s bed in case she brought another man home.

Police hope  a scrap of blue material held in the vaults of a Portuguese forensic lab could provide the vital link between the suspect and Madeleine.

Cops hope that continuing advances in DNA testing may yet provide a full profile for comparison with the 43-year-old convicted paedophile and rapist.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11832641/madeleine-mccan-suspect-boss-knew-claim/

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Post by Guest 09.10.20 9:12

I wonder if he got paid for that article?
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Post by MaxHeadroom 09.10.20 9:17

Another day, another dubious person that claims he/she knows anything. But he's right in one thing - everyone with real knowledge of the case does indeed exactly know what happened. And if his Facebook profile is so secret, how come the "journalist" found out these facts? Did he give him a News of the World treatment?

Everything else is mostly just the millionth repetition of the same old wrong "facts". CB ist not the prime suspect and there was no abduction and no break-in. But this might be interesting: 

Police hope  a scrap of blue material held in the vaults of a Portuguese forensic lab could provide the vital link between the suspect and Madeleine.
Does anyone know more on that?
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Post by Silentscope 09.10.20 9:25

In another development Tiziano Ilg, who previously hired the German to work at his restaurant, has claimed 'we all know' what happened to the child. Brueckner was hired just weeks after Madeleine's disappearance at the restaurant in Floral.  Responding to an online news article about her disappearance on his Facebook profile he cryptically said: 'It's time to stop looking and stop imagining. We all know.'  


Source: Algarve News 11 Jun 20 https://algarvedailynews.com/news/18087-maddie-mccann-prosecutor-says-portuguese-police-still-think-her-parents-are-responsible-as-he-slams-cumbersome-judicial-police


So no, I doubt he got paid for that Interview to the Sun, as they have just re-used old News and presented it as being a New development.
Herr Wolters is already dealing with a Case against a Reporter who hacked another Witnesses Facebook page. 
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Post by Verdi 09.10.20 12:44

MaxHeadroom wrote:Police hope  a scrap of blue material held in the vaults of a Portuguese forensic lab could provide the vital link between the suspect and Madeleine.
Does anyone know more on that?
Yes, it's evolved a bit in transition between tabloids but I believe it refers to the piece of cloth cut from the bed covering from the bed under the window, in the apartment 5a bedroom occupied by Madeleine McCann and her siblings.

1 piece of cloth in envelope no. 5 recovered from the bedspread of the bed next to the window in the children's bedroom.
Fragment of cloth, mauve/violet in colour with square motifs, circular in form about 10cm in diameter. A small fluorescent spot is observed under a Crime-light.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PORTUGUESE-FORENSIC.htm
It was tested by Portuguese forensics for bodily fluids, amongst other things - semen.  Some while ago I suggested the forensic sample was sent to the UK's Forensic Science Service for re-analysis, that was wrong, the Portuguese forensic test results were sent to the Forensic Science Service in the UK, not the sample itself.

It transpired the stain was from a young boy who stayed at apartment 5a, with his family, prior to the McCanns.

Following the forensic tests carried out at INML, some DNA were obtained which linked profiles of some people within the group of friends, to the profiles of the child - s parents and even to the profiles of other people at the site. Until this moment, unidentified mitochondrial DNA profiles were also obtained. On the other hand, it was possible to define the autosomic STR profile of the sperm stain detected on the bedspread of one of the beds in the bedroom from where the child went missing. It has been already checked that there is no matching between the obtained genetic profile and the profile of the various samples of reference, which include the ones of the parents, friends, and others. Therefore, that DNA profile is now being forwarded to you, so that it can be inserted in your database, with the request that you check if it matches any of the genetic profiles from 3 British citizens who had stayed in the apartment in question, before the McCanns started to use that apartment on May 3rd, 2007.
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The voluntary samples were also compared with 'crime stain 1', a DNA profile obtained by Portuguese scientists using their DNA profile system. The profile was recovered from suspected semen on a blanket in the apartment 5.

From the available records, I conclude that 281 voluntary samples were eliminated as contributors of DNA to the list of search profiles above, since its profile does not match the profile sought; consequently, the DNA can not have originated from them.

I conclude further that, the DNA profiles obtained from the 'crime stain 1' and 286A/2007/CRL9A & B coincide with Charlie Gordon (bar code 51156964). I believe that Charlie Gordon was born on 29 January 2005, and if this is the case, in my opinion, the DNA profile obtained in 'crime stain 1' is not the result of semen found on the blanket.


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Post by Verdi 10.10.20 1:39

BlueBag wrote:I wonder if he got paid for that article?
You bet your bottom dollar!

Adherents from the past may not appear on the payroll of the Find Madeleine Fund audit but for sure they are on a retainer.

The private detectives hired by the wealthy benefactor, Brian Kennedy on behalf of the Fund, were passed masters at uncovering 'witnesses' from the blue.  I strongly suspect this is yet another example of their covert operations.

Julian Peribañez, disgraced (to use the vernacular) former employee of Metodo3 is never far away from the action and of course Dave 'the rave' Edgar of the ethereal Alphaig International is always on-hand for a bit of moral support when the going gets tough.

There is little doubt in my mind as to who is behind the Germanman farce.

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Post by MaxHeadroom 10.10.20 8:35

Verdi wrote:
MaxHeadroom wrote:Police hope  a scrap of blue material held in the vaults of a Portuguese forensic lab could provide the vital link between the suspect and Madeleine.
Does anyone know more on that?
Yes, it's evolved a bit in transition between tabloids but I believe it refers to the piece of cloth cut from the bed covering from the bed under the window, in the apartment 5a bedroom occupied by Madeleine McCann and her siblings. It transpired the stain was from a young boy who stayed at apartment 5a, with his family, prior to the McCanns.
Thanks, mate. I knew of that piece of cloth and that it has been tested and that the DNA's origin has been found out long ago - which of course doesn't stop the media from still treating this as potential evidence against CB or any other potential (but actually non-existent) abductor.
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Post by Verdi 10.10.20 13:04

That's what happens when you unleash a rumour, or more importantly, propagate misinformation.  

Bit like the coronavirus, once released it will never go away, no matter how hard the well informed try to spread reason and suppress the lies.

The press, in particular the tabloid press, are passed masters at keeping the misinformation treadmill in good working order.

Truth is dead!

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Post by Verdi 10.10.20 13:16

Meanwhile it's weekend again and The Sun continues to shine..

'GAME OF CAT AND MOUSE'


Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B boasts he won’t fall for ‘dirty tricks’ cops ‘using to get him to confess’


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  • 10 Oct 2020, 9:32
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MADELEINE McCann prime suspect Christian B has boasted he won’t fall for cops’ “dirty tricks” to get him to confess.
The 43-year-old paedophile and rapist was named by the German authorities as the chief suspect in the murder of the toddler, who was seized in 2007 while on holiday in Portugal.

Reports last week suggested an inmate may have been recruited by detectives to get the jailed sex-offender to talk.

Prosecutors have refused to deny the sensational claims but a source said warped Christian B - banged up for drug offences, child pornography charges and rape - is raging.

“Despite the silence of prosecutors, he is convinced that the police have been using all sorts of dirty tricks to try and nail him,” said the source.

“He has been boasting there is no way he will fall for it. To him the whole thing is a game of cat and mouse and he has remained silent throughout.”

Meanwhile the Sun can reveal that Portuguese Police have been left “concerned” by claims their German counterparts may have resorted to “planting” spies inside prison to get Christian B talking.

The Portuguese Police believe the German investigators are becoming increasingly desperate due to a lack of leads. 
And they say the move to send informant into jail is further indication of that.

A source close to the investigation said: “The probe into Christian B has hit a brick wall.

“If they are resorting to sending people into prison to try and get him to confess then it is a bit of a worrying sign.
 
“The Portuguese have long said that Christian B isn’t linked to Maddie's disappearance but the Germans remain convinced he is. And they seem determined to prove it.”

A report last week said an inmate was recruited when Christian B was in Wolfenbuettel jail before being transferred to Kiel, where he is now in solitary confinement.

Christian B was named as the prime suspect after phone records placed him in Praia da Luz in Portugal on the night Madeleine vanished.

Alexander Stevens, an expert on German criminal law, said investigators' chances of finding any new evidence was now low.

“The only remaining possibility to convict Christian B would be to obtain information about fellow prisoners.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12895346/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-dirty-tricks-cops/
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A moose in the hoose and a mole in the hole - or should that be a toad in the hole i don\'t know .

Just as I thought we'd seen the back of Germanman, along comes another ripping yarn for our weekend delectation.

It's a non-starter .... go away.

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Verdi wrote:That's what happens when you unleash a rumour, or more importantly, propagate misinformation.  

Bit like the coronavirus, once released it will never go away, no matter how hard the well informed try to spread reason and suppress the lies.

The press, in particular the tabloid press, are passed masters at keeping the misinformation treadmill in good working order.

Truth is dead!
That's why it's important for every single one of us to stick to our own thoughts, rather than letting somebody else do the thinking for us.

The key is not to be distracted by external forces or preconceived thoughts, but to just look at the evidence and let it guide you.
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Post by sandancer 10.10.20 15:20

Verdi wrote:Meanwhile it's weekend again and The Sun continues to shine..

'GAME OF CAT AND MOUSE'


Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B boasts he won’t fall for ‘dirty tricks’ cops ‘using to get him to confess’


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  • Updated: 10 Oct 2020, 9:40


MADELEINE McCann prime suspect Christian B has boasted he won’t fall for cops’ “dirty tricks” to get him to confess.
The 43-year-old paedophile and rapist was named by the German authorities as the chief suspect in the murder of the toddler, who was seized in 2007 while on holiday in Portugal.

Reports last week suggested an inmate may have been recruited by detectives to get the jailed sex-offender to talk.

Prosecutors have refused to deny the sensational claims but a source said warped Christian B - banged up for drug offences, child pornography charges and rape - is raging.

“Despite the silence of prosecutors, he is convinced that the police have been using all sorts of dirty tricks to try and nail him,” said the source.

“He has been boasting there is no way he will fall for it. To him the whole thing is a game of cat and mouse and he has remained silent throughout.”

Meanwhile the Sun can reveal that Portuguese Police have been left “concerned” by claims their German counterparts may have resorted to “planting” spies inside prison to get Christian B talking.

The Portuguese Police believe the German investigators are becoming increasingly desperate due to a lack of leads. 
And they say the move to send informant into jail is further indication of that.

A source close to the investigation said: “The probe into Christian B has hit a brick wall.

“If they are resorting to sending people into prison to try and get him to confess then it is a bit of a worrying sign.
 
“The Portuguese have long said that Christian B isn’t linked to Maddie's disappearance but the Germans remain convinced he is. And they seem determined to prove it.”

A report last week said an inmate was recruited when Christian B was in Wolfenbuettel jail before being transferred to Kiel, where he is now in solitary confinement.

Christian B was named as the prime suspect after phone records placed him in Praia da Luz in Portugal on the night Madeleine vanished.

Alexander Stevens, an expert on German criminal law, said investigators' chances of finding any new evidence was now low.

“The only remaining possibility to convict Christian B would be to obtain information about fellow prisoners.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12895346/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-dirty-tricks-cops/
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A moose in the hoose and a mole in the hole - or should that be a toad in the hole i don\'t know .

Just as I thought we'd seen the back of Germanman, along comes another ripping yarn for our weekend delectation.

It's a non-starter .... go away.

Here's me thinking it was all quiet on the " latest prime suspect " front ! 

Up pops the good old Sun with yet another " chilling " fairy tale ! 

In my next incarnation I might be a reporter/journalist seems you can get away with anything , anything except reporting the truth there must be a disclaimer in the contract .

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Post by Verdi 10.10.20 15:52

I thought he was in solitary to save his own skin. So who's he been talking to - the prison cat or the little mouse cowering in the corner of his cell? Germanman's cell that is, not the mouse.

Or has been communicating with mystic meg by thought transference.

There's a lot of 'sources' hiding out there in the lairs of the wild hinterlands on the Algarve and beyond.

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Post by Verdi 12.10.20 1:31

'Cat and mouse': Maddie McCann suspect boasts he won't fall for cops' dirty tricks to try get him to confess

This latest little exposé hasn't made bn status but it has nonetheless caught the attention of one or two lesser tabloids, using the same wording as the Sun original report.

I'm just wondering why the suspect 'boasts'.  I don't see it as a boast, if indeed he did say anything of the kind - which I doubt.  

Perhaps when talking to 'the source' he had his thumbs tucked-in his prison jerkin whilst strutting about the cell with a confident cocky attitude?

i don\'t know

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Post by Guest 12.10.20 1:40

Are we going to actually hear from this guy or what?

It beggars belief that the German police haven't questioned him, nor that they haven't brought forward a case against him.

All we get is media sensationalism, very cryptic (and rather bipolar) comments from the German prosecutor, and a quiet Portuguese Public Ministry.

I've said this before and I'll say it again - this is not normal!

This is the disappearance of a three-year old.

Why are the authorities behaving in this way?
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Post by Verdi 12.10.20 2:16

I'll go with 'or what'.

The case of missing Madeleine McCann - for that is what this is, has been the source of media sensationalism since Friday 4th May 2007.

If there's ever been any doubt in the minds of people about the integrity of the media, anyone who thinks what they read is fact - look closer. I've never believed much of what's reported, even the more lighthearted stuff, but the case of Madeleine McCann has sure revealed what it's all about for anyone who cares about truth, as opposed to salacious gossip, propaganda and misinformation.

It's a disgrace but what can you do, aside from thinking for yourself or ignoring what you read. It's been the way of things since the town crier hit the streets with tales of the unexpected.

The media won't go away, they are an integral part of the establishment.

Mind you .... 5th November is not so very far away think . I feel an anniversary coming on smilie .




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Exclusive: Russians in Spain could be linked to Madeleine snatch

By Olive Press Editor Jon Clarke

A pair of Russian expats based in Spain have been linked to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

The two men, believed to be brothers, may have been involved with the buying and selling of yachts both in Portugal and Spain at the time of Maddie's disappearance.

According to an investigator for Portuguese national TV, German police 'are looking for these Russians.

Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters. who is leading the investigation for Germany's BKA, confirmed to RTP programme Sexta-as-9, that they may have been involved in the snatch of the toddler from the resort of Praia da Luz, on the Algarve in 2007.

Read on: https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/10/12/exclusive-russians-in-spain-could-be-linked-to-madeleine-snatch/
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So another kid on the block .... 'Russianman. rolleyes

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Post by Silverspeed 13.10.20 1:15

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner's lawyer says he's found proof he is innocent


EXCLUSIVE Friedrich Fuelscher said he has examined the areas around the flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where Madeleine McCann went missing and he now has proof Christian Brueckner is innocent.

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Suspect Christian Brueckner was in Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine went missing according to mobile phone records.
Christian Brueckner’s lawyer claims he has found proof his client did not abduct Madeleine McCann.

Friedrich Fuelscher examined the areas around the flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where the McCanns stayed when Madeleine, three, vanished between 9.10pm and 10pm on May 3, 2007.

Mr Fuelscher said: “If the witness statements are correct, there was a time window of one minute and 30 seconds in which the child could have been abducted.”

Mobile phone records put Brueckner, 43, in Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine went missing.

But after timing distances from various places in the resort to the flat, Mr Fuelscher declared: “My client did not commit this crime.”

Madeleine was abducted in 2007 from a flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal.
German chief prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has said there is “material evidence” Madeleine is dead.
Brueckner has previously been convicted of a string of charges including possession of child sex images and the rape of a pensioner.

He is currently serving a 21-month sentence in Kiel, northern Germany, on drug dealing charges.

But he claims he had nothing to do with Madeleine’s disappearance.
The convicted paedophile is in a prison in Kiel, northern Germany, for drug trafficking and raping a 72-year-old American woman in the Algarve.

The rape occurred about 18 months before three-year-old Madeleine, from Rothley, Leicestershire, vanished.

Brueckner was jailed for seven years for the attack on the American woman and 21 months for drug trafficking.
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Post by PeterMac 13.10.20 8:07

It looks as though Fülscher has been reading this Forum   Mr

Or the e-book, Chapter 4
http://whatreallyhappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.com/2016/08/chapter-4-window-of-opportunity.html

Though I estimated it at 1 minute and 20 seconds !


"Working purely from the statements of Gerry McCann, Jeremy Wilkins, and Jane Tanner, and adding the time as we proceed we can estimate the following -

Gerry McCann left the Tapas bar 9:05 pm
Arrived at gate at bottom of stairs 9:06
Climbed stairs, entered apartment and went to bedroom 9:06.30s
Looked at children and had “proud father” moment 9:07
Used toilet 9:08
Left apartment, closing doors, went down stairs, met Jez Wilkins 9:09
Talked to Jez Wilkins 9:09 - 9:13 pm

Jane Tanner left Tapas bar 9:10 pm
JT arrived bottom of stairs, saw and passed the two men 9:11
JT saw abductor carrying child across top of road 9:11.05s

There is therefore, on their own timings, just two minutes and five seconds for the intruder to get in, seize Madeleine, get out again, and make his way round to the top of the road. To walk from the front door or window of the apartment to the left behind the low wall, then across the car park, then right to the corner of the street takes around 45 seconds, and a further 5 seconds to cross the street. [16]

He has therefore around one minute and twenty seconds to enter, commit the crime, and exit."




All we have to do now is persuade Grange to read it as well


Incidentally the link is
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckners-22834534

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Post by Silverspeed 13.10.20 8:23

PeterMac wrote:It looks as though Fülscher has been reading this Forum   Mr

I thought that aswell, or reading some of your work PeterMac.
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