The latest McCann suspect: Scotland Yard has revealed vital new information about a suspect wanted in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

sharonl wrote:Is this the old barn or farmhouse that these reports are relating to?

Blood on towel may be from Madeleine

Sunday Express
By Matt Drake in Praia da Luz and James Murray
2 December 2007

THE hunt for Madeleine McCann was last night centred on a disused barn near Praia da Luz, where police found a towel possibly stained with the fouryear-old's blood.

Fibres found on the towel allegedly match fibres from the hire car rented by Maddie's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann.

Portuguese detectives discussed the breakthrough when they met police and a Crown Prosecution Service official last week in Leicester.

Today, for the first time, the Sunday Express can shed light on the new avenue police are pursuing in the hope of a breakthrough in the baffling case.

Based on fresh information from a mobile phone surveillance, police began a search of an area in the south east of the resort.

They came across a towel, with an Aztec design, by a disused barn in a remote area near Praia da Luz.

Portuguese sources say forensic scientists used a substance called luminol to look for blood deposits and found three sites on the edges of the towel.

From the sites they tested the blood deposits to see if there was a match with Madeleine McCann's DNA.

Although the samples were not good quality the scientists were able to do what is called low copy analysis which showed there was "moderate" support to suggest the deposits matched Madeleine's blood.

The results were not conclusive and are not regarded as being strong enough to be presented as evidence in any court case.

But close analysis of the towel revealed fibres which were not made of the towel material.

The fibre fragments were microscopically examined against fibres found in the boot of the Renault Scenic car hired by the McCanns 25 days after Maddie vanished.

Portuguese police sources say there was "strong support" that the fibres found on the towel matched fibres from the boot of the car.

One possibility being considered by the Portuguese detectives was that the towel had at some point been in the boot of the Renault Scenic car, which would explain how fibres had got on it.

Meanwhile, a close friend of Kate and Gerry McCann who was holidaying with them when Madeleine vanished will be questioned by Portuguese police this week over a "mystery' phone call.

Dr Russell O'Brien, 36, has come under investigation after a team of telephone surveillance officers highlighted a mobile call made to the missing four-year-old's father more than a month after she disappeared.

Portuguese detectives are now working on the theory that a call made between Gerry McCann, 39, and Dr O'Brien is the missing link that could help them find Madeleine's body.

Investigators are focussing their inquiry on the exact whereabouts of Dr O'Brien when the call was made on June 10.

Gerry McCann said the call was made within four kilometres of the Mark Warner resort.

But technicians have now dismissed his claim after examining data records taken from specified areas near to where the child went missing.

It is understood key words aroused police suspicions.

First time I have heard about this towel and car fibres. I watched one of the sky news reports back and a detective on there (not one actively involved in the case) thought that mobile phone data holds the key to solving the case.

Just suppose he relates that immediately after they left he simply wandered up the stairs, through the patio door, took M, and wandered out again

After leaving the bedroom window open for some strange reason.

All in a tight time frame as someone was passing (or indeed in the flat) every few minutes.

The "how" will be amazing.

Reading the news, he's definitely the man.  It all fits, can't you see?

He sounds an abhorrent individual but, if the police are serious about charging him (if and when they find evidence), he has a legal right to a fair trial. That looks jeopardised to me.

But he's not dead! (yet?)
Certainly needs to be watching his back, or he might be 'Epsteined'.

I’m struggling to come up with a reasonable scenario but can’t it be that this man is indeed involved in some way by helping the McCanns? That he lent his campervan to the McCanns for example, that he made that 8 o`clock call to say that everything was in position for the abduction show to start? That he let the McCanns use his farmhouse to hide Madeleine`s body?

Unlikely of course but just trying to keep a somewhat open mind

Textusa has published a transcript of the TV interview with Henrique Machado on TVI from the other night:
 
http://textusa.blogspot.com/2020/06/henrique-machado-on-tvi.html#more

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BlueBag wrote:

Just suppose he relates that immediately after they left he simply wandered up the stairs, through the patio door, took M, and wandered out again

After leaving the bedroom window open for some strange reason.

All in a tight time frame as someone was passing (or indeed in the flat) every few minutes.

The "how" will be amazing.

Wasn't it said the abductor used chloroform?

Sky News - Madeleine McCann: German authorities 'ignored tip-off about suspect in 2013' 

The disappearance of a six-year-old boy who went missing in the Portuguese Algarve in 1996 is also reportedly being re-examined.

German authorities reportedly ignored warnings from their own police seven years ago that suspect Christian B could have abducted and killed Madeleine McCann.
A report from detectives monitoring Christian B identified him as a key suspect in the Madeleine mystery, but it was ignored by Germany's Federal Criminal Office, according to news magazine Der Spiegel.

The 2013 police report was triggered after British detectives made a new appeal in the Madeleine case on a German Crimewatch-style TV show.

Scotland Yard had just launched its own investigation and was appealing to European tourists who might have been in Portugal when Madeline vanished from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in 2007.
The report was sent to federal police HQ by police in Braunschweig, who were monitoring Christian B's criminal behaviour. By that time he already had convictions for child sex abuse.


Der Spiegel writes: "One person did submit a tip about Christian B, but the resulting report from police in Braunschweig to the Federal Office of Criminal Investigation was apparently not acted upon, much to the consternation of the local investigators."

It comes as German police are said to be investigating the new Madeleine suspect for possible involvement in the disappearance of a boy in Portugal in 1996.

They are re-examining the disappearance of Rene Hasee, according to German media.
The then six-year-old from Elsdorf, Germany, went missing from a beach while on holiday with his family in the Portuguese Algarve.

It follows the launch of an investigation into whether the suspect was involved in the disappearance of another child - Inga Gehricke.
The five-year-old vanished during a family barbecue in the Saxony-Anhalt region on 2 May 2015.
She is thought to have wandered into a forest in search of firewood, and is known by German media as "the German Maddie".
Officers have named the suspect - a convicted child sex offender - only as Christian B and have not revealed his surname for legal reasons.
A Sky News investigation discovered last year that he was already being considered as a potential suspect for Inga's disappearance.
It is understood his home was searched by police in 2016, but no action was taken.
He reportedly had a property around 60 miles (100km) southwest of Stendal in the town of Neuwegersleben when Inga disappeared.
A year later, he became a suspect in the Madeleine case after police were tipped off by a man who claimed Christian B had indicated he was responsible for her abduction.

Christian B is currently in a German prison serving a seven-year sentence for the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Portugal 15 years ago. He was convicted of the offence at Braunschweig District Court in December last year.
The suspect had lived in the Germany city of Braunschweig before going abroad.
Madeleine was nearly four when she vanished from her bedroom on 3 May 2007 during a family holiday in the Algarve, Portugal, while her parents were dining with friends nearby.
German police said he lived in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007.

Sky News' crime correspondent Martin Brunt said: "This man came back into the frame in 2017 as a result of an alleged confession.
"I understand he was in a bar in Germany with another man, around the tenth anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance. A report came on the TV about the anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance and he said something to suggest that he knew what happened.
"He also allegedly showed a video of himself raping a woman. Video of the rape led to an investigation that last year meant he was convicted of the rape of a tourist on the Algarve in around 2005.
"That is what brought him back into the frame."

A spokesman for Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, said they believe the identification of the German suspect is "the most significant development in 13 years".
Clarence Mitchell, a spokesman for Madeleine's family, said her parents are "trying to maintain as normal a life as possible" and awaiting updates from police.
German public prosecutors said on Thursday they believe Madeleine is dead and police are treating her disappearance as a murder investigation.
Police have appealed for anyone with information about the suspect to come forward, including about the movements of two vehicles linked to him during the period around Madeleine's disappearance.

Both cars, a Volkswagen camper van and a Jaguar, are now in the possession of German police.
The suspect had the Jaguar re-registered in Germany under someone else's name the day after Madeleine went missing, although it is believed the vehicle was still in Portugal.
The Metropolitan Police has received more than 270 calls and emails since launching the new appeal.
Detective Chief Inspector Mark Cranwell says Scotland Yard is "pleased" with the information coming into the incident room, and is assessing and prioritising the new leads.
The force's Operation Grange still considers the case a missing person inquiry because there is no "definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead".

Stffl wrote:I’m struggling to come up with a reasonable scenario but can’t it be that this man is indeed involved in some way by helping the McCanns? That he lent his campervan to the McCanns for example, that he made that 8 o`clock call to say that everything was in position for the abduction show to start? That he let the McCanns use his farmhouse to hide Madeleine`s body?

Unlikely of course but just trying to keep a somewhat open mind

If Murrat  and/or someone else local was involved it's possible the McCann's got a way to be linked to him.

Eastree27 wrote:

Stffl wrote:I’m struggling to come up with a reasonable scenario but can’t it be that this man is indeed involved in some way by helping the McCanns? That he lent his campervan to the McCanns for example, that he made that 8 o`clock call to say that everything was in position for the abduction show to start? That he let the McCanns use his farmhouse to hide Madeleine`s body?

Unlikely of course but just trying to keep a somewhat open mind

If Murat and/or someone else local was involved it's possible the McCanns got a way to be linked to him.

Elsewhere on the forum are detailed analyses of Robert Murat's involvement in this case. 

There is a great deal of circumstantial evidence that Robert Murat was known by, or to, members of the McCann Team before May 2007.  

We also know for certain that he and Martin Smith knew each other; they had met 'several times' over a period of two years.

Murat's mother was friendly with Mrs Pamela Fenn.

Someone summoned Murat on Monday 30 April 2007 to fly out urgently to Praia da Luz. He flew out on the next available plane from Exeter Airport at 7am the following morning.

During the next three days we don't really know what he did, because when questioned by police about his actions he told over a dozen barefaced lies about what he'd really been doing. We still don't know.

There is a great deal of evidence that he was actively helping the McCann Team for the first 10 days after Madeleine was reported missing. Thereafter he mysteriously became the 'fall guy' and was arrested on suspicion of abducting Madeleine on 15 May.

I have proposed that prior to Madeleine's disappearance there were two separate but related groups of people, let's for now call them 'The McCann Group' and 'The Mcann Group'. They may have had a joint interest in some kind of activity. 

Somehow these two groups were both connected with what happened to Madeleine.

These two groups met up to resolve their serious differences at the villa of Ralph and Sally Eveleigh, 'Salsalito', on 13 November 2007. There is much information about this event on this forum.

In my judgmemt, this case cannot be understood without people having a clear understanding of what happened at that absolutely crucial meeting. It is a key to the whole case.

Tony Bennett wrote:

Eastree27 wrote:

Stffl wrote:I’m struggling to come up with a reasonable scenario but can’t it be that this man is indeed involved in some way by helping the McCanns? That he lent his campervan to the McCanns for example, that he made that 8 o`clock call to say that everything was in position for the abduction show to start? That he let the McCanns use his farmhouse to hide Madeleine`s body?

Unlikely of course but just trying to keep a somewhat open mind

If Murat and/or someone else local was involved it's possible the McCanns got a way to be linked to him.

Elsewhere on the forum are detailed analyses of Robert Murat's involvement in this case. 

There is a great deal of circumstantial evidence that Robert Murat was known by, or to, members of the McCann Team before May 2007.  

We also know for certain that he and Martin Smith knew each other; they had met 'several times' over a period of two years.

Murat's mother was friendly with Mrs Pamela Fenn.

Not to mention his very friendly telephone conversation with Martin Brunt about some kind of 'contract'.

Jill Havern wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Eastree27 wrote:

Stffl wrote:I’m struggling to come up with a reasonable scenario but can’t it be that this man is indeed involved in some way by helping the McCanns? That he lent his campervan to the McCanns for example, that he made that 8 o`clock call to say that everything was in position for the abduction show to start? That he let the McCanns use his farmhouse to hide Madeleine`s body?

Unlikely of course but just trying to keep a somewhat open mind

If Murat and/or someone else local was involved it's possible the McCanns got a way to be linked to him.

Elsewhere on the forum are detailed analyses of Robert Murat's involvement in this case. 

There is a great deal of circumstantial evidence that Robert Murat was known by, or to, members of the McCann Team before May 2007.  

We also know for certain that he and Martin Smith knew each other; they had met 'several times' over a period of two years.

Murat's mother was friendly with Mrs Pamela Fenn.

Not to mention his very friendly telephone conversation with Martin Brunt about some kind of 'contract'.

Who is still very active in the reporting of the case.

Jill Havern wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Just suppose he relates that immediately after they left he simply wandered up the stairs, through the patio door, took M, and wandered out again

After leaving the bedroom window open for some strange reason.

All in a tight time frame as someone was passing (or indeed in the flat) every few minutes.

The "how" will be amazing.

Wasn't it said the abductor used chloroform?

Where does the ref to chloroform come from?

Tony Bennett wrote:

Eastree27 wrote:

Stffl wrote:I’m struggling to come up with a reasonable scenario but can’t it be that this man is indeed involved in some way by helping the McCanns? That he lent his campervan to the McCanns for example, that he made that 8 o`clock call to say that everything was in position for the abduction show to start? That he let the McCanns use his farmhouse to hide Madeleine`s body?

Unlikely of course but just trying to keep a somewhat open mind

If Murat and/or someone else local was involved it's possible the McCanns got a way to be linked to him.

Elsewhere on the forum are detailed analyses of Robert Murat's involvement in this case. 

There is a great deal of circumstantial evidence that Robert Murat was known by, or to, members of the McCann Team before May 2007.  

We also know for certain that he and Martin Smith knew each other; they had met 'several times' over a period of two years.

Murat's mother was friendly with Mrs Pamela Fenn.

Someone summoned Murat on Monday 30 April 2007 to fly out urgently to Praia da Luz. He flew out on the next available plane from Exeter Airport at 7am the following morning.

During the next three days we don't really know what he did, because when questioned by police about his actions he told over a dozen barefaced lies about what he'd really been doing. We still don't know.

There is a great deal of evidence that he was actively helping the McCann Team for the first 10 days after Madeleine was reported missing. Thereafter he mysteriously became the 'fall guy' and was arrested on suspicion of abducting Madeleine on 15 May.

I have proposed that prior to Madeleine's disappearance there were two separate but related groups of people, let's for now call them 'The McCann Group' and 'The Mcann Group'. They may have had a joint interest in some kind of activity. 

Somehow these two groups were both connected with what happened to Madeleine.

These two groups met up to resolve their serious differences at the villa of Ralph and Sally Eveleigh, 'Salsalito', on 13 November 2007. There is much information about this event on this forum.

In my judgmemt, this case cannot be understood without people having a clear understanding of what happened at that absolutely crucial meeting. It is a key to the whole case.

We also know don't we that Murat called it a cockup and lots of things went wrong on the night - which feels like it is the most likely reason Murat was made into the prime suspect - if he was planned from before the PNJ was called to be a temporary fall guy things would make more sense.

crispbee2000 wrote:

Jill Havern wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Just suppose he relates that immediately after they left he simply wandered up the stairs, through the patio door, took M, and wandered out again

After leaving the bedroom window open for some strange reason.

All in a tight time frame as someone was passing (or indeed in the flat) every few minutes.

The "how" will be amazing.

Wasn't it said the abductor used chloroform?

Where does the ref to chloroform come from?

Was it not hinted at by one of the extended family.

Eastree27 wrote:

crispbee2000 wrote:

Jill Havern wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Just suppose he relates that immediately after they left he simply wandered up the stairs, through the patio door, took M, and wandered out again

After leaving the bedroom window open for some strange reason.

All in a tight time frame as someone was passing (or indeed in the flat) every few minutes.

The "how" will be amazing.

Wasn't it said the abductor used chloroform?

Where does the ref to chloroform come from?

Was it not hinted at by one of the extended family.

What, one of those that relayed the information about jemmied shutters et al? I don't think that would point us anywhere. Details of CB's modus operandi might help.

The extended family are interesting to me - I think most of the key one now know the truth but at the time I think some only knew a partial truth and didn't get updated quick enough to prevent them reporting things that failed to happen or did not get staged well enough to even convince the first officers on the scene.

That suggestion was eliminated iirc because when Kate McCann was asked if she smelled anything unusual as she entered the room  she answered no . In her profession she would have been familiar with the smell of chloroform ?

Jill Havern wrote:
Wasn't it said the abductor used chloroform?

Roidininki wrote:That suggestion was eliminated iirc because when Kate McCann was asked if she smelled anything unusual as she entered the room  she answered no . In her profession she would have been familiar with the smell of chloroform ?

Jill Havern wrote:
Wasn't it said the abductor used chloroform?

Kate was adamant in her book that all 3 children had been sedated by the abductor.

Stffl wrote:I’m struggling to come up with a reasonable scenario but can’t it be that this man is indeed involved in some way by helping the McCanns? That he lent his campervan to the McCanns for example, that he made that 8 o`clock call to say that everything was in position for the abduction show to start? That he let the McCanns use his farmhouse to hide Madeleine`s body?

Unlikely of course but just trying to keep a somewhat open mind

Keep an open mind by all means but base it on evidence, not a flight of fancy.

Seeing the media and everyone else appears to be connecting every other missing child to the " latest suspect " how long before someone brings up the sad case of little Joana Cipriano and uses it as another reason to attack the Portuguese Police and especially Goncalo Amaral and the alleged " beating " of her mother . 

Ignoring the fact of course that mother and uncle were imprisoned for her murder !

Well they're ignoring every other fact , including the dogs of course Eddie and Keela never get a mention .

What a difference a J makes? (A la Dinah Washington)



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