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The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

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My opinion on these six photographs is…

1. I tend to agree. These photos, and the absence of others of Madeleine, suggest she died on Sunday (or Monday at the very latest)
 
2. I disagree because I think the Last Photo WAS taken on Thursday
 
3. I disagree because I think the Tennis Balls Photo IS a true photo of Madeleine that WAS taken after Sunday
 
4. I disagree because I think both the Last Photo and the Tennis Balls Photo were taken after Sunday
 
5. I disagree for some other reason
 
6. I am genuinely undecided
 
 
 
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by Cammerigal on 30.12.17 7:17

There is no bracelet visible on maddies right wrist on the “Tuesday” tennis ball photo, nor on her left wrist on the “Thursday” last photo by the pool
 No bracelet = no induction OR both photos are incorrectly dated in their EXIF file data
We know from extensive analysis that the last photo was most probably taken in the bright sunshine on the Sunday. The missing bracelet would further support this theory.
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by HiDeHo on 30.12.17 9:47

There doesn't appear to be any bracelet on the other children in the greyscale photos





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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by polyenne on 30.12.17 11:36

Interesting comparison in the photos HeDeHo posted above.

Photo 2 shows DP and child OUTSIDE with sunglasses on.

1st photo shows child INSIDE with sunglasses on and what appears to be a folded parasol upside down leaning against the wall. The inference being, it wasn’t sunny when that particular picture was taken.

If only one could see the date on the newspaper with crossword !!
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by plebgate on 30.12.17 11:46

Ref. the black and white playground pic Hi-D-H posted #18


IMO it looks Mr & Mrs in the photo.   Mrs looks to me as though she has one hand on a pushchair and it looks like A. sitting in the pushchair and turning to the side to look at her daddy with her arms outstretched.

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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by Verdi on 30.12.17 11:55

They didn't have a pushchair!

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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by plebgate on 30.12.17 12:03

I know - but it sure looks like a pushchair to me.

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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by BlueBag on 30.12.17 12:18

Maybe the "they should have had bracelets" thing is a myth.
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by Phoebe on 30.12.17 13:07

This photo looks like breakfast to me -  a glass of juice and something like Weetabix. I accept that nursery food is often rather soft and sloppy but I cannot imagine the plate in this picture containing something like Spaghetti Bolognaise, it's positively runny with liquid. It's unlikely to be supper as the children had just had high tea and would have been too full to plough into such a large helping so soon afterward and immediately before going down to sleep. Combined with the paper the scene suggests a morning meal. I thought the Paynes had always breakfasted at the Millenium.? I could be wrong of course!
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by Mark Willis on 30.12.17 13:26

Is that pizza on her plate?
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by JohnyT on 30.12.17 13:30

@polyenne wrote:Interesting comparison in the photos HeDeHo posted above.

Photo 2 shows DP and child OUTSIDE with sunglasses on.

1st photo shows child INSIDE with sunglasses on and what appears to be a folded parasol upside down leaning against the wall. The inference being, it wasn’t sunny when that particular picture was taken.

If only one could see the date on the newspaper with crossword !!
...yes but if you knew the name of the newspaper you could match the crossword 'pattern'............

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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by Phoebe on 30.12.17 13:34

@Mark Willis wrote:Is that pizza on her plate?
I doubt it. It is being served in a cereal/soup bowl to contain all the liquid which is clearly visible. L.P.'s light coloured T shirt is also pristine suggesting  that it has been put on fresh and hasn't gone through the wear and tear of a day.
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by Mark Willis on 30.12.17 13:43

Is that a spoon in her right hand?
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by polyenne on 30.12.17 13:44

The paper logo looks like the Mail. Brought out with them this early in the holiday ?

High tea ? Did that really happen ?!
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by polyenne on 30.12.17 17:19

HiDeHo post #27, 2nd photo.
Did any of the Payne children (or any of the others for that matter) have a birthday whilst they were all in PdL ?

The reason I ask is that the carefully quartered sandwiches and what looks like the remains of a chocolate caterpillar cake remind me of a kiddies party and not a simple al fresco lunch.

The Sagres Beer is the possible clue to it being during the holiday.
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by NickE on 30.12.17 22:21

@HiDeHo wrote:There doesn't appear to be any bracelet on the other children in the greyscale photos





I've read a MW kids club review on a blog and that customer said they got a new bracelet for every session.
The explaination for that could be that these photos was taken in the morning,evening or on Saturday or Sunday morning.
BUT they claim that the Tennis photo was taken during Mini tennis which was a creche activity and there for she should been wearing a bracelet in that photo if their claims was true, but she doesn't.

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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by Verdi on 30.12.17 23:33

@Mark Willis wrote:Is that a spoon in her right hand?
Nah!  It's a tennis racket ....

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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by Spending4Queen on 31.12.17 20:48

@Verdi wrote:The first four photographs, the poolside and playground, I agree wholeheartedly.

The other two, the make-up and tennis ball images, are inconclusive and therefore unhelpful.  There is no evidence to suggest (oops, where did that come from) they are genuine photographs of Madeleine McCann taken during the holiday in Praia da Luz.

If I may add to the stack of evidence indicative of Madeleine's 'disappearance' early in the week, sometime between Saturday 28th April and Tuesday 1st May, not only is there a total absence of photographs of Madeleine but also an absence of video footage of the holiday.  

As I've said a million times in the past - this is just not normal!  In my view the absence of photographic imagery of Madeleine and/or her family, indeed also the rest of the group of friends, is far more important than vainly trying to prove when and where the two questionable images were taken, or how they came about.  Snr Amaral wanted access to all their cameras - he didn't get it, instead he was handed a carefully selected few handed over by Gerry McCann and his cohort from Skipton, who incidentally wasn't even on holiday with the group.  Even Kate McCann claims to have been frantically sifting through the memory of her digital camera whilst her husband was in another room being interviewed by the PJ, looking for that vital clue - allegedly.

So, where are all the photographs that were stored on your camera Ms McCann Healy?  Certainly not in the possession of the PJ who were searching for your daughter!  Why didn't you hand them over to the PJ as asked, why did you hide them?

There is enough compelling evidence to suggest Madeleine met her fate sometime between Sunday 29th and Monday 30th April 2007.  Sadly Madeleine was  gone and the abduction plan was hatched long before the panic button was hit at approximately 10:00pm on Thursday 3rd May 2007.

Oddly enough, it was only yesterday I again saw a reminder that Jon Corner was already in possession of a portfolio of Madeleine images - on Saturday 5th or Sunday 6th May 2007!  Go figure....
The hair bead ? only in 1 picture Most kids keep for the duration of the holiday
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by MayMuse on 04.01.18 18:54

The plate pattern looks the same as the outdoor image and the indoor image which may suggest same resort or area or apartment ?

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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by HiDeHo on 04.01.18 22:59

@MayMuse wrote:The plate pattern looks the same as the outdoor image and the indoor image which may suggest same resort or area or apartment ?


I believe the inside photos were of the Paynes child and the outside photos were on the Paynes balcony when they met for lunch.
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Re: The SIX photos that provide the biggest clue to when Madeleine died

Post by MayMuse on 05.01.18 22:19

@HiDeHo wrote:
@MayMuse wrote:The plate pattern looks the same as the outdoor image and the indoor image which may suggest same resort or area or apartment ?


I believe the inside photos were of the Paynes child and the outside photos were on the Paynes balcony when they met for lunch.
Looking at the images again, I think the inside photo is taken in an apartment (Paynes?) , you can just about see the patio/balcony on the right side as you look at it... Is she sitting on a booster seat?

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