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Post by Verdi on 19.01.20 21:39

I've spent some time looking for a readable version of Lizzy 'Hi-De-Ho' Taylor's graphic - to no avail.

However, what I did come across is of interest to this discussion. The date claimed to be when the tennis ball image was 'created' [sic], the 5th May 2007, would appear to have been instigated by a past CMOMM forum member, canada12.

The member posted a link to a Bruno Press which is no longer available - at least not to my laptop. At the time it must have been viewable as Hi-De-Ho produced another graphic showing McCann family handout photographs, including the tennis ball image said to have been created on 5th May 2007.

Without access to Bruno Press I can't comment.

Now the worrying thing here is canada12 talked a good job, implying a good knowledge of photograpics but little else. For a start, s/he said if we had access to the original photograph or a first print-off so to speak, s/he/we would be able to produce the EXIF data from said photograph.

This is the same member who wasted hours of forum time and space trying to convince the world that one photograph of Madeleine McCann showed flowers on and around her neck - if memory serves me well.

It was clear canada12 knew nothing about photography despite claims to the contrary.

My view .... the origin of the image is dubious but without a clue to work on, there is no way of knowing it's true value. As it stands it's just another red herring.

With the likes of canada12 as a leading light, I'm inclined to abandon the subject.


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Post by Verdi on 20.01.20 12:38

Rachel Oldfield's Rogatory Interview

[The morning of Friday 4th May 2007]

'I remember having, sort of being on the phone a little bit to the BBC I think that morning, erm and then sort of various phone calls, I talked to John CORNER who's a friend of Gerry and Kate's, erm cos the BBC wanted a picture of Madeleine, erm and he had some photos that he was going to be able to send them, erm and then and I think maybe about ten-ish'
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madeleine by KATE MCCANN

Friday 4th May 2007

By this time our friend Jon Corner, a creative director in media production in Liverpool, was circulating photographs and video footage of Madeleine to the police, Interpol and broadcasting and newspaper news desks.

Jon Corner had opened up the file transfer protocol he’d set up on 4 May to circulate Madeleine’s image to family, friends and other supporters. No, I didn’t know what one of those was, either: basically, it provided access via a password to a repository for photographs and other material, allowing people to share their resources. Helpers could post their material on a dedicated server via the FTP and use that supplied by others to create flyers, posters and so on. The press already had the password, which gave them access to pictures and video footage.



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Post by LaRabbita0 on 30.04.20 0:55


To me it looks like her hair is shorter in the last photograph. She has her head inclined downwards  towards her chin in this photo, in order to trap the tennis balls securely. This would make her hair length seem longer than the just below collar bone length of the previous photos. I would say the last photo was taken at a different time from that holiday.
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Post by NeeNee on 07.09.20 18:54

Regarding the photo where Madeleine is wearing some make-up:  She obviously is wearing some beads, and possibly just playing dress up.  I have a 3 year old grandson, and I have seen that same expression if he is admiring himself in a mirror when we have fixed his hair, or whatever, and he's feeling pretty special.  I think it's possible that the make-up picture is just a time when she was dressing up and nothing more. It's not quite a smirk in the picture of her; but I do recognize that expression of a little one feeling special, pretty, or handsome.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 10.09.20 14:17

@NeeNee wrote:Regarding the photo where Madeleine is wearing some make-up:  She obviously is wearing some beads, and possibly just playing dress up.  I have a 3 year old grandson, and I have seen that same expression if he is admiring himself in a mirror when we have fixed his hair, or whatever, and he's feeling pretty special.  I think it's possible that the make-up picture is just a time when she was dressing up and nothing more. It's not quite a smirk in the picture of her; but I do recognize that expression of a little one feeling special, pretty, or handsome.

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Against your view we have these factors:

1  Adult applied hair bead

2  Adult applied necklace

3  Adult applied blue eye shadow

4  Looks like both lipstick and eye-liner - applied by an adult

5  Clearly miserable looking face

6  Parents did not tell the true story when the Corner video was released 

7  Strong evidence this photo was taken in Portugal - not admitted by parents

8  Possibly taken the same day as the Last Photo, you know, the one that was said to have been taken Thursday, not Sunday:
    A  same hair length
    B  beads in hair in both photos
    C  wearing pink smock/dress in both photos

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Post by Silentscope on 10.09.20 14:44

On your point number 5 Tony, it gives me the impression that she is attempting to produce a “look” for the Camera / Photographer that she is unused to  / not experienced enough to produce?
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Post by Tony Bennett on 10.09.20 16:32

@Silentscope wrote:On your point number 5 Tony, it gives me the impression that she is attempting to produce a “look” for the Camera / Photographer that she is unused to  / not experienced enough to produce?

Yes. Agreed. She has been told by someone to hold up her head.

The cameraman seems to be positioned low down, looking up at her almost.

I do NOT think this photo was taken by one of the parents. When they spoke about it back in 2009, neither of them said: ''Oh yes, I remember taking it. What a fun day that was!"

Remember that it was Jon Corner who was in possession of that photo, in order to release it on his little 2-minute video.

So Jon Corner could have taken it. But in my opinion it was more likely to have been taken by someone else: not the parents, and not Jon Corner.

That throws a potentially sinister light onto this most controversial of Maddie photos

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Silentscope on 10.09.20 17:32

Was one of the Relatives not a Photographer?

Often discussed regarding Photo Shopping images?
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Post by miffy8 on 10.09.20 18:34

What Kate did say was that Madeleine had been playing with the dressing up box or words to that effect. I think the inference being that as the dressing up box was at home therefore, that's where the photo was taken. But the background wall colour is very typical of that found in Portugal. I have expressed my own thoughts on this picture in another thread that were largely dismissed by Verdi who is fairly sure it is photoshopped. I just reacted to it on face value.

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Post by Silentscope on 14.09.20 12:23

Interesting Video on YouTube reference Photoshop analysis.

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Post by Verdi on 14.09.20 13:43

All this sort of nonsense has been debunked here on CMOMM over the past years time and time again.

The 'armchair detective' is a danger to justice in the name of Madeleine McCann.  He might mean well but that's where his input begins and ends.

I have no time for people who try to capitalize on the back of a missing child.

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If you scour the internet and/or YouTube, as you are doing, you will find hundreds of examples of this genre of unhelpful, self promotional, nonsense.

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Post by Lance De Boils on 14.09.20 18:45

from Verdi on p1, (I haven't got further yet,)

There is enough compelling evidence to suggest Madeleine met her fate sometime between Sunday 29th and Monday 30th April 2007.  Sadly Madeleine was  gone and the abduction plan was hatched long before the panic button was hit at approximately 10:00pm on Thursday 3rd May 2007.

It may be one of few Verdi posts I agree with, but this part of one I certainly do.
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Post by pauloalexandre on 14.09.20 20:35

@Lance De Boils wrote:from Verdi on p1, (I haven't got further yet,)

There is enough compelling evidence to suggest Madeleine met her fate sometime between Sunday 29th and Monday 30th April 2007.  Sadly Madeleine was  gone and the abduction plan was hatched long before the panic button was hit at approximately 10:00pm on Thursday 3rd May 2007.

It may be one of few Verdi posts I agree with, but this part of one I certainly do.
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