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Post by Markus 2 22.09.14 19:39

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/torrent-of-hate-for-new-madeleine-book-288012.html has this been posted before.

Torrent of hate’ for new Madeleine book

The site also carries many positive reviews, while the book has been described as “compelling” by the Daily Telegraph.
The Richard and Judy book club labels it “forensically detailed... incredibly chilling”, while The Sun considers it “explosive”.

Irish Examiner,no surprise

Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan, who live in west Waterford, said there has been “a torrent of hate mail” largely on Facebook and Twitter, from people who persecute Madeleine’s parents and “make vile allegations on the basis of no evidence at all”. I CAN SEE A BAN ON FREE SPEECH ABOUT THIS CASE COMING SOON.
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Post by Guest 22.09.14 20:05

Markus 2 wrote:Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan, who live in west Waterford, said there has been “a torrent of hate mail” largely on Facebook and Twitter, from people who persecute Madeleine’s parents and “make vile allegations on the basis of no evidence at all”. I CAN SEE A BAN ON FREE SPEECH ABOUT THIS CASE COMING SOON.

I have been following the Facebook page very closely.

There is no "hate".

Except for the hate of reasonable questions.

Why use "hater" when "skeptic" is a better word?

.. oh hang on...
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Post by Markus 2 22.09.14 20:11

IF THIS TAKES OFF IN THE MAIN PRESS OVER HERE I CAN SEE IT DOING THE MCCANNS MORE HARM.  THE ARTICLE IS INTENDED  TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SORRY FOR THEM BUT MORE WILL BE QUESTIONING IMO.
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Post by Tony Bennett 22.09.14 23:21

Apologies if this has been posted alreday, but there is a remarkable 18-minute interview of Anthony Summers & Robbyn Swan on an Irish talk show last week - the Pat Kenny Show.

Remarkable, that is, for two reasons:

1. The astonishing way in which almost every feature of the official narrative is trotted out

and

2. The professionalism and fake sincerity - reminscent of Clarence Mitchell - with which Summers & Swan (especially Swan) glide effortlessly through their lines and gloss over all the undoubted awkward problems with the official narrative.

Rarely has such rank dishonesty been more professionally carried out.

Interview starts at 1 min and finishes at 19 min 
 
http://www.newstalk.ie/player/listen_back/13240/12861/17th_September_2014_-_The_Pat_Kenny_Show_Part_3

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 22.09.14 23:27

BlueBag wrote:
Markus 2 wrote:Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan, who live in west Waterford, said there has been “a torrent of hate mail” largely on Facebook and Twitter, from people who persecute Madeleine’s parents and “make vile allegations on the basis of no evidence at all”. I CAN SEE A BAN ON FREE SPEECH ABOUT THIS CASE COMING SOON.

I have been following the Facebook page very closely.

There is no "hate".

Except for the hate of reasonable questions.

Why use "hater" when "skeptic" is a better word?

.. oh hang on...
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The disproportionate response has been very telling. Expected what I received when posting the link to the RDH documentary. Just surprised it stayed there for 24 hours laughat
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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 22.09.14 23:29

Tony Bennett wrote:Apologies if this has been posted alreday, but there is a remarkable 18-minute interview of Anthony Summers & Robbyn Swan on an Irish talk show last week - the Pat Kenny Show.

Remarkable, that is, for two reasons:

1. The astonishing way in which almost every feature of the official narrative is trotted out

and

2. The professionalism and fake sincerity - reminscent of Clarence Mitchell - with which Summers & Swan (especially Swan) glide effortlessly through their lines and gloss over all the undoubted awkward problems with the official narrative.

Rarely has such rank dishonesty been more professionally carried out.

Interview starts at 1 min and finishes at 19 min 
 
http://www.newstalk.ie/player/listen_back/13240/12861/17th_September_2014_-_The_Pat_Kenny_Show_Part_3
What very strange people. Couldn't stomach watching that bilge tonight.
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Post by Guest 23.09.14 1:12

Tony Bennett wrote:Apologies if this has been posted alreday, but there is a remarkable 18-minute interview of Anthony Summers & Robbyn Swan on an Irish talk show last week - the Pat Kenny Show.

Remarkable, that is, for two reasons:

1. The astonishing way in which almost every feature of the official narrative is trotted out

and

2. The professionalism and fake sincerity - reminscent of Clarence Mitchell - with which Summers & Swan (especially Swan) glide effortlessly through their lines and gloss over all the undoubted awkward problems with the official narrative.

Rarely has such rank dishonesty been more professionally carried out.

Interview starts at 1 min and finishes at 19 min 
 
http://www.newstalk.ie/player/listen_back/13240/12861/17th_September_2014_-_The_Pat_Kenny_Show_Part_3


Tony,

FYI, the interview link was posted by cloak'ndagger 3 days ago - separate topic: https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t10332-authors-of-looking-for-madeleine-talk-to-pat-Kenny

I have rarely been so angry when listening to any interview.  The bias is sickening.  How the authors (and Amazon) can describe this as "the first independent, objective account of the case" is utterly beyond belief.
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Post by Guest 23.09.14 8:25

Clive James' poem "The Book of My Enemy Has Been Remaindered" could have been written for just this occasion.

The book of my enemy has been remaindered
And I am pleased.
In vast quantities it has been remaindered
Like a van-load of counterfeit that has been seized
And sits in piles in a police warehouse,
My enemy's much-prized effort sits in piles
In the kind of bookshop where remaindering occurs.
Great, square stacks of rejected books and, between them, aisles
One passes down reflecting on life's vanities,
Pausing to remember all those thoughtful reviews
Lavished to no avail upon one's enemy's book --
For behold, here is that book
Among these ranks and banks of duds,
These ponderous and seemingly irreducible cairns
Of complete stiffs.


The book of my enemy has been remaindered
And I rejoice.
It has gone with bowed head like a defeated legion
Beneath the yoke.
What avail him now his awards and prizes,
The praise expended upon his meticulous technique,
His individual new voice?
Knocked into the middle of next week
His brainchild now consorts with the bad buys
The sinker, clinkers, dogs and dregs,
The Edsels of the world of moveable type,
The bummers that no amount of hype could shift,
The unbudgeable turkeys.


Yea, his slim volume with its understated wrapper
Bathes in the blare of the brightly jacketed Hitler's War Machine,
His unmistakably individual new voice
Shares the same scrapyard with a forlorn skyscraper
Of The Kung-Fu Cookbook,
His honesty, proclaimed by himself and believed by others,
His renowned abhorrence of all posturing and pretense,
Is there with Pertwee's Promenades and Pierrots--
One Hundred Years of Seaside Entertainment,
And (oh, this above all) his sensibility,
His sensibility and its hair-like filaments,
His delicate, quivering sensibility is now as one
With Barbara Windsor's Book of Boobs,
A volume graced by the descriptive rubric
"My boobs will give everyone hours of fun".


Soon now a book of mine could be remaindered also,
Though not to the monumental extent
In which the chastisement of remaindering has been meted out
To the book of my enemy,
Since in the case of my own book it will be due
To a miscalculated print run, a marketing error--
Nothing to do with merit.
But just supposing that such an event should hold
Some slight element of sadness, it will be offset
By the memory of this sweet moment.
Chill the champagne and polish the crystal goblets!
The book of my enemy has been remaindered
And I am glad.
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Post by missbeetle 23.09.14 8:56

Wonderful choice there, Clay. I love Clive James!

One of the sexiest men alive, and I'm pleased to say he is still alive -

- he was very poorly with leukaemia a few years back.


I wonder what the total sales for this book have been worldwide?

Is anyone else surprised at just how wretched this book is?

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Post by Snifferdog 23.09.14 9:06

Great poem Clay, the shoe fits for sure!

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Post by Tony Bennett 23.09.14 9:16

Clay Regazzoni wrote:Clive James' poem "The Book of My Enemy Has Been Remaindered" could have been written for just this occasion.

The book of my enemy has been remaindered...
Yes, thank you for this very entertaining rendition of 'Schadenfreude', Clay - a word for which we have no equivalent in English, though perhaps 'lightly concealed gloating' would come near to it.

The abject failure of Summers & Swan's 'Looking for Madeleine' looks interesting when compared with the rampant success of the 4.5-hour-long DVDs, 'Buried by Mainstream Media - The True Story of Madeleine McCann', by Richard D Hall.

According to BlipTV records, Hall's film on his website, www.madeleinedocumentary.com , has had over 55,000 views to date, while the 26 YouTube uploads of all or parts of his film have had over 81,000 views so far. Add to that sales of his boxed sets at, say, 2,000, and the fact that many of those who bought the DVDs will have shown them to others, or downloaded them and passed them on to their friends and contacts, and we are looking at about 150,000 views so far - within less than 8 weeks since they were officially launched on 1 August.

Numbers viewing the YouTube videos continue to increase at 1 every minute, or 1,440 a day

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by PeterMac 23.09.14 9:39

2 more copies of the book sold yesterday.
So that makes 33
Triple figures ?
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Post by Guest 23.09.14 9:59

I think we will see the newspaper serialization when the Amaral case concludes.

Then sales will possibly pick up, but I don't think they are bothered about sales.

It will be interesting to see what happens on several fronts when the case continues - OG and newspaper serialization. I suspect the co-ordination will be obvious to everyone here.
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Post by plebgate 23.09.14 10:14

Errr well we all have an opinion and we all post our thoughts, so I suppose we could all be called Authors.    The newspapers could always make this site a very generous offer for "serialisation rights".     I would hazard a guess sales would go through the roof, but can't see it happening. big grin

I would love to be a fly on the wall at the breakfast table of S&S, wondering just why they have had such bad reviews from the reading and commenting  public when they normally get glowing accolades from their "artistic" and "well read" friends.    It's called the real world and I wonder whether they will venture into it again so readily. big grin big grin
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Post by Gaggzy 23.09.14 10:17

PeterMac wrote:2 more copies of the book sold yesterday.
So that makes 33
Triple figures  ?


What?!

With all the publicity, only 33 copies?  lol!


I self-published my sci-fi / time travel novel on Amazon two years ago and to date had over 7,000 downloads.  youaretheman

And I'm just little-old me.  spin
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Post by Brian Griffin 23.09.14 10:20

plebgate wrote:Errr well we all have an opinion and we all post our thoughts, so I suppose we could all be called Authors.    The newspapers could always make this site a very generous offer for "serialisation rights".     I would hazard a guess sales would go through the roof, but can't see it happening. big grin

I would love to be a fly on the wall at the breakfast table of S&S, wondering just why they have had such bad reviews from the reading and commenting  public when they normally get glowing accolades from their "artistic" and "well read" friends.    It's called the real world and I wonder whether they will venture into it again so readily. big grin big grin
The 'real world'? I think it's more like 'The Twilight Zone' the way anything to do with the McCanns plays out.

In my opinion.

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Post by comperedna 23.09.14 17:53

PeterMac... I bought one. I tend to buy every book on this case. :-) That makes 32  'innocent' public, maximum.
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Post by Guest 23.09.14 18:06

missbeetle wrote:Wonderful choice there, Clay. I love Clive James!

One of the sexiest men alive, and I'm pleased to say he is still alive -

- he was very poorly with leukaemia a few years back.


I wonder what the total sales for this book have been worldwide?

Is anyone else surprised at just how wretched this book is?

missbeetle - CJ, who I think is one of the funniest of men, is very ill - 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/09/16/clive_james_japanese_maple_the_australian_critic_pens_a_goodbye_poem_for.html
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Post by missbeetle 23.09.14 20:19

Ladyinred wrote:
missbeetle wrote:Wonderful choice there, Clay. I love Clive James!

One of the sexiest men alive, and I'm pleased to say he is still alive -

- he was very poorly with leukaemia a few years back.


I wonder what the total sales for this book have been worldwide?

Is anyone else surprised at just how wretched this book is?

missbeetle - CJ, who I think is one of the funniest of men, is very ill - 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/09/16/clive_james_japanese_maple_the_australian_critic_pens_a_goodbye_poem_for.html

Thank you for that, Lady In Red - what a beautiful and dear poem.

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03:52am.............25th September 2014.

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Post by sharonl 25.09.14 7:27

Well at least Amazon have now removed the offending material from the True Crime category.

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Post by Brian Griffin 25.09.14 8:21

lol

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Post by davro 25.09.14 10:33

This from Amazon's blurb:


"Parents Gerry and Kate McCann, however, have never given up the search for Madeleine"


Yeah,and Tony Blair still hasn't given up the search for WMD's in Iraq
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Post by Snifferdog 25.09.14 10:44

@Plebgate. Now there's a good idea lol
:cheers: @Gaggsy. Congratulations on you book sales!

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Post by PeterMac 26.09.14 15:58

No link but I loved this, apropos of the ludicrously low sales figures

"It takes some doing not to make money out of Madeleine McCann."

Well quite.
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Post by PeterMac 27.09.14 11:10

Sales have now reached

4 2



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Post by sharonl 27.09.14 12:01

PeterMac wrote:Sales have now reached

4 2






It would be interesting to see a breakdown of the sales. 
 
a.  How many McCann friends bought the book to support the authors?
b.  How many truth seekers purchased a copy?
c.  How many books were sold to the general public?

In my opinion, only catergory C really counts.
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Post by Casey5 27.09.14 14:49

I have read that there is uproar on twitter and facebook about the derisory Amazon comments about the book and the poor sales.
Wouldn't you think those people who are soooo upset would buy a copy of the book but seemingly not. big grin
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Post by Guest 27.09.14 14:58

Casey5 wrote:I have read that there is uproar on twitter and facebook about the derisory Amazon comments about the book and the poor sales.
Wouldn't you think those people who are soooo upset would buy a copy of the book but seemingly not. big grin

I think Mr&Mrs have written most of the McBook and used S & S as authors, paying them lots of ££££££.  Their writing careers are now finished IMO.
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Post by PeterMac 27.09.14 15:59

Ironically, from the Winters and Goose book,
talking about Kate's autobiography
p. 241   Published in May 2011 amidst massive publicity, the book became a runaway bestseller. In the first week, 72,500 copies were sold - a record."

So now we can perhaps add, for the sake of completeness and balance
Published in September 2014, amidst massive publicity, the book became a universally derided and monumental flop. In the first two weeks, 42 copies were sold - a record."

As one well known and respected commentator observed
"It takes some doing not to make money out of Madeleine McCann."
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