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Post by NickE 02.07.14 6:02

Joana Morais ‏[ltr]@xklamation[/ltr]  5 h

Shame on Andy Redwood's team, a 16 year old suspect(2007) it's farcical,. Who exactly do you think you're kidding? Go away! @metpoliceuk #McCann

This have to be the maniac who stabbed a woman and said he killed Madeleine,or?
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Post by missbeetle 02.07.14 6:23

NickE wrote:Joana Morais ‏
[ltr]@xklamation[/ltr]

  5 h

Shame on Andy Redwood's team, a 16 year old suspect(2007) it's farcical,. Who exactly do you think you're kidding? Go away! @metpoliceuk #McCann

This have to be the maniac who stabbed a woman and said he killed Madeleine,or?

...or the young son of a MW/RM business partner...?
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Post by MrsC 02.07.14 6:33

NickE wrote:

This have to be the maniac who stabbed a woman and said he killed Madeleine,or?


Wouldn't he already be inside?
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Post by whatliesbehindthesofa 02.07.14 6:41

inspirespirit wrote:Breaking News on Sky News - SY back in PDL suspects to be interviewed - Page 16 Jt12This is the picture that Kim Guess took off her tele. posted on HiDeHo FB page.  I don't know any other details.

That looks like Jane Tanner to me.
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Post by noddy100 02.07.14 7:30

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:
inspirespirit wrote:Breaking News on Sky News - SY back in PDL suspects to be interviewed - Page 16 Jt12This is the picture that Kim Guess took off her tele. posted on HiDeHo FB page.  I don't know any other details.

That looks like Jane Tanner to me.
That's the one I posted
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Post by inspirespirit 02.07.14 7:35

^^^^^^ sorry.  Didn't see it posted before. x
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Post by noddy100 02.07.14 7:53

inspirespirit wrote:^^^^^^ sorry.  Didn't see it posted before. x
No don't be sorry glad it got posted just didn't want anyone to think mine was something different
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Post by NickE 02.07.14 8:12

missbeetle wrote:
NickE wrote:Joana Morais ‏
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Shame on Andy Redwood's team, a 16 year old suspect(2007) it's farcical,. Who exactly do you think you're kidding? Go away! @metpoliceuk #McCann

This have to be the maniac who stabbed a woman and said he killed Madeleine,or?

...or the young son of a MW/RM business partner...?
Stephen Carpenter Statement

SC: And once the garage door was opened, it was not just a garage for a car, it was a type of "capsule" of about six by nine metres in size which became longer where there was a bed in the corner, and it was when we were searching this, the English man with grey hair whose identity I did not know, but who had explained this to me.

 DCF: Yes.
 SC: Humm... this garage belonged to a Portuguese man, the man from the laundry.
 DCF: Yes.
 SC: And when we entered the garage I asked who lived there, he replied that his son lived there and then there were distractions and because I was concentrated on the fifty year old English man, this man is Portuguese, it was only afterwards when I thought later about what we were searching for, it didn't occur to me and I think it is because of this that i mentioned it in my statement two weeks later, because I remember that there had been some distortions.
 DCF: Yes.
 SC: Of course with Murat there is Murat and the Russian individual, you know....I thought that we might well be looking for the totally wrong person and the fact that a bed existed in the garage and some children's toys.
 DCF: Yes.
 SC: I thought, ohhh...its worth mentioning this and that's the reason I mentioned it in my statement.
 DCF: Fine, now (inaudible) describe the Portuguese man, the laundry man to me, yes'
 SC: Yes.
 I am certain that I read about this at the beginning, which (inaudible)' I think that afterwards, and afterwards coincides with the fact that he was the man from the laundry and of the van parked there, because as i have already explained, we were here in a small street here above which linked to the main road and to everything beside here on top, the rest was all pathways and I remember that on two or three occasions I thought...this is a dead end road, the van was parked there, I never saw anyone and more than once assumed that it would be cleaning staff and only this thought coincided with the presence of the man from the laundry, and if there were any reply to be made in relation to the link between the van parked there and the laundry man.
 DCF: Yes.
 SC: Murat here, I think and the laundry thing here.
 DCF: Yes
 SC: And I would once again give the reason why I mentioned the subject..
 DCF: Of what age did the laundry man appear to be'
 SC: Humm, I do not remember clearly what I said, but obviously at times Europeans appear older than they are, because of
 DCF...(inaudible) the sun.
 SC: Yes with the sun, that was what I said in the statement (inaudible).
 DCF: I am going to try to locate the first pages where it was mentioned, but there is no description.
 SC: Forty five to fifty years old, I think.
 DCF: I'm just trying to think what age the man would be, it is difficult to say for the man that I saw, but he would have been of an age that implied that he could have a small child living in the garage or it could be expected that the had a grown up child.
 SC: Oh, I think he would have been about, you know.... eighteen years, twenty or twenty two years old to live in the back of a garage because it had large cupboards and other things, but to live in a garage would mean that he had to be eighteen or more, because of a question of safety and because it was not the best way to live.

What do we have here?
Laundry men and his 18-20yo son,could be 16yo.
"Russian individual"(Malinka) and Mr Murat.
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Thanks for posting the above, NickE.
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Post by SixMillionQuid 02.07.14 8:24

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:
inspirespirit wrote:Breaking News on Sky News - SY back in PDL suspects to be interviewed - Page 16 Jt12This is the picture that Kim Guess took off her tele. posted on HiDeHo FB page.  I don't know any other details.

That looks like Jane Tanner to me.
Looks fake to me. What TV program is this from? And why did she just happen to have camera ready, while watching the TV?

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Post by noddy100 02.07.14 8:30

SixMillionQuid wrote:
whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:
inspirespirit wrote:Breaking News on Sky News - SY back in PDL suspects to be interviewed - Page 16 Jt12This is the picture that Kim Guess took off her tele. posted on HiDeHo FB page.  I don't know any other details.

That looks like Jane Tanner to me.
Looks fake to me. What TV program is this from? And why did she just happen to have camera ready, while watching the TV?
Not fake IMO she took it from I player much later this is from the news yesterday fir sure several others have posted it too
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Post by PeterMac 02.07.14 8:38

All we know is that we know nothing.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/485960/Madeleine-McCann-Police-set-to-question-suspects

Although no evidence was found, the McCann family said that were "encouraged" because it reinforced their belief that Madeleine could still be alive.

Scotland Yard are reportedly working on the theory burglars killed Madeleine during a bungled break-in while her parents dined out nearby with friends - and then buried her body on waste ground in the resort.
Belief - could ?
reportedly - theory ?

I know naaarthing, Meester Fawwlty. I am from Barcelona

As were M3 incidentally !
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Post by FrankS 02.07.14 8:51

English ask for DNA of the arguidos at all costs in the Maddie case - even in a sneaky way
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by Marisa Rodrigues

The British Police even asked the Judiciary Police to start collecting fingerprints and a DNA profiles of the four suspects now constituted as arguidos. Even if it was done in a sneaky way.

The request appears in a letter rogatory dated of July last year, but was challenged by the PJ, since it is an illegality. At the request of Scotland Yard, and with the endorsement of the Portuguese Public Ministry, the suspects were formally constituted arguidos, Tuesday, by the PJ inspectors of the Southern Directorate in Faro.

in [url=http://www.jn.pt/Dossies/dossie.aspx?content_id=4003235&dossier=O caso Maddie McCann]Jornal de Notícias - paper edition to follow/going to buy it[/url]
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Post by Guest 02.07.14 9:07

In amongst all the dross in the press, there has been some surprisingly specific information:

- The police allowed themselves to be filmed carrying out the digs making sure that everyone was absolutely clear on which areas were being searched.

- The dogs were specifically identified as cadaver dogs.

- Out of all the possible witnesses/suspects, the press have named Sergey Malinka. Why just him?

Perhaps this is being carefully orchestrated to ramp up the pressure on the McCanns.
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Post by jozi 02.07.14 9:09

PeterMac wrote:All we know is that we know nothing.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/485960/Madeleine-McCann-Police-set-to-question-suspects

Although no evidence was found, the McCann family said that were "encouraged" because it reinforced their belief that Madeleine could still be alive.

Scotland Yard are reportedly working on the theory burglars killed Madeleine during a bungled break-in while her parents dined out nearby with friends - and then buried her body on waste ground in the resort.
Belief - could ?
reportedly - theory ?

I know naaarthing, Meester Fawwlty. I am from Barcelona

As were M3 incidentally !
Looks like they are going with the Bungling Burglars who killed and buried Maddie.....which makes NO sense at all ??? Why would a burglar carry a dead child to bury her nearby on waste ground ,when it would be better all round to leave the dead child where she died.  You may get caught WITH the dead child ??????

Is this a first taking the dead victim for burial...........YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING ANDY !!!!
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Post by Tony Bennett 02.07.14 9:11

FrankS wrote: The British Police even asked the Judiciary Police to start collecting fingerprints and a DNA profiles of the four suspects now constituted as arguidos. Even if it was done in a sneaky way.

The request appears in a letter rogatory dated of July last year, but was challenged by the PJ, since it is an illegality. At the request of Scotland Yard, and with the endorsement of the Portuguese Public Ministry, the suspects were formally constituted arguidos, Tuesday, by the PJ inspectors of the Southern Directorate in Faro.
So it took nearly a year to accede to one of Redwood's Rogatory Requests!

Looks like the Portuguese are exacting revenge over Labour Home Secretary Jacqui Smith delaying all those Rogatory Requests by the Portuguese police back in late 2007/early 2008

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by MarleneP 02.07.14 9:12

... and if the notorious burglars were paid for the disposal of a corpse?
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Post by PeterMac 02.07.14 9:17

jozi wrote:
Looks like they are going with the Bungling Burglars who killed and buried Maddie.....which makes NO sense at all ??? Why would a burglar carry a dead child to bury her nearby on waste ground ,when it would be better all round to leave the dead child where she died.  You may get caught WITH the dead child ??????
Is this a first taking the dead victim for burial...........YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING ANDY !!!!
It is all gibberish. Ludicrous in fact
The press do not know what is happening and seem unable to work it out.
But they have to say something, so they go with the last thing they thought of.
Interesting though that the press are all talking about Madeleine having been DEAD on 3rd.
Which leaves only the McCanns insisting that she COULD be alive.
In other words all the press have deserted them, and at the same time are making it clear to the world that the "Fund" has been a fraud from the start.
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Post by canada12 02.07.14 9:26

And now that the papers are all talking about a DEAD Madeleine in very large headlines, what does this mean for the libel trial?

Kate and Gerry are claiming distress over GA's book saying the same thing.

Are they going to appear in court on the 8th to bleat about this, when all around them the papers have conceded that Madeleine is likely dead and the police have conceded that Madeleine is likely dead?
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Post by Tony Bennett 02.07.14 9:27

Poe wrote:In amongst all the dross in the press, there has been some surprisingly specific information:

- The police allowed themselves to be filmed carrying out the digs making sure that everyone was absolutely clear on which areas were being searched.

- The dogs were specifically identified as cadaver dogs.

- Out of all the possible witnesses/suspects, the press have named Sergey Malinka. Why just him?

Perhaps this is being carefully orchestrated to ramp up the pressure on the McCanns.
The alternative view of course is that this is most certainly 'being carefully orchestrated' - who could disagree with that? - but primarily, or even solely, to continue to influence public perception of what really happened to Madeleine McCann.

Has there ever been any case before in world history where so many events in a police investigation have been played out, apparently quite deliberately, in the full glare of the media and cameras (and ExclusivePics)?

Genuine question.

Can anyone think of another case where cameras were on hand to record police officers laising with each other, collecting boxes of evidence, flying in helicopters, digging wasteland with dozens of media cameramen looking on, etc. etc.?

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Baldrick 02.07.14 9:33

Tony Bennett wrote:
Poe wrote:In amongst all the dross in the press, there has been some surprisingly specific information:

- The police allowed themselves to be filmed carrying out the digs making sure that everyone was absolutely clear on which areas were being searched.

- The dogs were specifically identified as cadaver dogs.

- Out of all the possible witnesses/suspects, the press have named Sergey Malinka. Why just him?

Perhaps this is being carefully orchestrated to ramp up the pressure on the McCanns.
The alternative view of course is that this is most certainly 'being carefully orchestrated' - who could disagree with that? - but primarily, or even solely, to continue to influence public perception of what really happened to Madeleine McCann.

Has there ever been any case before in world history where so many events in a police investigation have been played out, apparently quite deliberately, in the full glare of the media and cameras (and ExclusivePics)?

Genuine question.

Can anyone think of another case where cameras were on hand to record police officers laising with each other, collecting boxes of evidence, flying in helicopters, digging wasteland with dozens of media cameramen looking on, etc. etc.?

No but this case has been so in the public eye from the start
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Post by NickE 02.07.14 9:33

MarleneP wrote:... and if the notorious burglars were paid for the disposal of a corpse?

 agree

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Post by jozi 02.07.14 9:35

MarleneP wrote:... and if the notorious burglars were paid for the disposal of a corpse?
Why involve other people though......if they are begging the world for money ? Leaving you open to blackmail !!!
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