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Cassius / SSO : Up to date lists for both Blair exiting and Brown inaugural -can we start to eliMinate by editing the lists and perhaps eliminating THOSE WHO IT CANNOT BE
Blair Ministry 2007:
May 2006 to June 2007
Gordon Brown June 2007
naugural Cabinet: 27 June 2007 – 24 January 2008
Blair Ministry 2007:
May 2006 to June 2007
Tony Blair — Prime Minister, First Lord of the Treasury, and Minister for the Civil Service:- John Prescott — Deputy Prime Minister and First Secretary of State
- Gordon Brown — Chancellor of the Exchequer and Second Lord of the Treasury
- The Lord Falconer of Thoroton — Secretary of State for Constitutional Affairs and Lord Chancellor -may 2007 becomes sec of state for justice.
- Jack Straw — Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs -MAY 2006 BECOMES LEADER OF HOUSE OF COMMONS
- The Baroness Amos — Leader of the House of Lords and Lord President of the Council
Tessa Jowell — Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport and Minister for the Olympics- John Reid — Secretary of State for Defence - becomes Home Secretary
Ruth Kelly — Secretary of State for Education and SkillsMargaret Beckett —Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs - may 2006 becomes foreign secretary -Patricia Hewitt — Secretary of State for Health- Hilary Benn — Secretary of State for International Development
- Peter Hain — Secretary of State for Northern Ireland and Secretary of State for Wales
- Alan Johnson — Secretary of State for Trade and Industry - becomes sec of state for education and skills
- Alistair Darling — Secretary of State for Transport and Secretary of State for Scotland - becomes Sec of SAtate for TRade and Industry
- David Blunkett — Secretary of State for Work and Pensions - resigns Nov 2005 replaced by John Hutton
- John Hutton — Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (Cabinet Office) - BECOMES SECRETARY OF STATE FOR w AND pENSIONS nOV 2005
- Des Browne — Chief Secretary to the TreasuryIan McCartney — Minister Without Portfolio and Party Chair -becomes Sec of State for defense
- Douglas Alexander - sec of state for transport
- Hazel Blears - minister without portfolio
- Stephen Timms - cheif Sec to Treasury
- Jacqui Smith - Parliamentary sec to Treasury
Ruth Kelly Sec of state for Communities- Hialry Armstrong becomes Parliament Sec to Treasury
- David Miliband — Minister of State for Communities and Local Government -may 2006 becomes Sec of state for environment
Gordon Brown June 2007
naugural Cabinet: 27 June 2007 – 24 January 2008
Prime Minister | The Rt Hon Gordon Brown MP | |
First Lord of the Treasury | ||
Minister for the Civil Service | ||
Chancellor of the Exchequer | The Rt Hon Alistair Darling MP | |
Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs | The Rt Hon David Miliband MP | |
Secretary of State for Justice | The Rt Hon Jack Straw MP | |
Lord Chancellor | ||
Secretary of State for the Home Department | The Rt Hon Jacqui Smith MP | |
Secretary of State for Defence | The Rt Hon Des Browne MP | |
Secretary of State for Scotland | ||
Secretary of State for Health | The Rt Hon Alan Johnson MP | |
Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs | The Rt Hon Hilary Benn MP | |
Secretary of State for International Development | The Rt Hon Douglas Alexander MP | |
Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform | The Rt Hon John Hutton MP | |
Leader of the House of Commons | ||
Lord Privy Seal | ||
Minister for Women and Equality | ||
Secretary of State for Work and Pensions | The Rt Hon Peter Hain MP | |
Secretary of State for Wales | ||
Secretary of State for Transport | T | |
Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government | The Rt Hon Hazel Blears MP | |
Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families | The Rt Hon Ed Balls MP | |
Minister for the Cabinet Office | The Rt Hon Ed Miliband MP | |
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster | ||
Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport | The Rt Hon James Purnell MP | |
Secretary of State for Northern Ireland | The Rt Hon Shaun Woodward MP | |
Leader of the House of Lords | The Rt Hon The Baroness Ashton of Upholland PC | |
Lord President of the Council | ||
Chief Secretary to the Treasury | The Rt Hon Andy Burnham MP | |
Secretary of State for Innovation, Universities and Skills | The Rt Hon John Denham MP | |
Chief Whip in the House of Commons | The Rt Hon Geoff Hoon MP | |
Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury | ||
Also attending Cabinet meetings | ||
Chief Whip in the House of Lords | The Rt Hon The Lord Grocott PC | |
Captain of the Honourable Corps of Gentlemen at Arms | ||
Attorney General | The Rt Hon The Baroness Scotland of Asthal PC QC | |
Minister of State for Africa, Asia and the United Nations | The Rt Hon The Lord Malloch-Brown KCMG PC | |
Minister of State for Housing and Planning | The Rt Ho | |
Minister for the Olympics | The Rt Hon Tessa Jowell MP | |
Paymaster General | ||
Also attending Cabinet meetings when their Ministerial responsibilities are on the agenda | ||
Minister of State for Children, Young People and Families | The Rt Hon Beverley Hughes MP |
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Cassius / SSO - so we have a list of individuals - who can we eliminate ?
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Thank you HelenMeg,great work.This new list confirms my info about j.reid
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Interesting that Amaral is now talking about MI5/6 in all this (unless I missed it before?)
IIRC, weren't the McCanns driven home by security services or some such and Kate mentioned it in her book?
With what GA says in this interview that SY/MI5/6 were there from the beginning surely means something completely separate, but connected somehow, is at play?
Maybe some security service employees were on holiday there at the time?
IIRC, weren't the McCanns driven home by security services or some such and Kate mentioned it in her book?
With what GA says in this interview that SY/MI5/6 were there from the beginning surely means something completely separate, but connected somehow, is at play?
Maybe some security service employees were on holiday there at the time?
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The UK public will no doubt be left in ignorance of Mr Amaral's recent interview or at least if it is reported, it will, imo, not show Mr Amaral in a good light.
I read on here earlier that the government monitors public opinion ...... in that case, when the files were released by the Portuguise, all our government had to do was allow them to be published here in the UK - along, with GM's blogs at the time of his little girl's disappearance, ( they are a real eye opener imo)
Imo, if the UK public had been given the chance to judge for itself by reading what was in the above files and GM's blogs - the government would have had a very clear and more realistic picture on how the public feel about this case ......as it is, UK opinion has been based mainly on the onesided version that the main stream media has been publishing for the last 7 years
I read on here earlier that the government monitors public opinion ...... in that case, when the files were released by the Portuguise, all our government had to do was allow them to be published here in the UK - along, with GM's blogs at the time of his little girl's disappearance, ( they are a real eye opener imo)
Imo, if the UK public had been given the chance to judge for itself by reading what was in the above files and GM's blogs - the government would have had a very clear and more realistic picture on how the public feel about this case ......as it is, UK opinion has been based mainly on the onesided version that the main stream media has been publishing for the last 7 years
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If MI5 were sent out there then it would have been at the directive of the Home Secretary.. but why did it warrant MI5, whether GM was an acquaintance or not. It could only be that they (Labour) realised there was a potential minefield about to explode and that must be avoided at all costs. - hence MI5 plus CM sent out on a mission to limit damage.cassius wrote:Thank you HelenMeg,great work.This new list confirms my info about j.reid
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If PE was there that week and took a flight out early on May 4th after the M 'abduction' then so did the other prominent person.
If SSO is correct in his assumption, then it it may have been a cabinet member. Cant see how to pursue this further unless by a process of elimination.. somehow.
If SSO is correct in his assumption, then it it may have been a cabinet member. Cant see how to pursue this further unless by a process of elimination.. somehow.
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HelenMeg wrote:If PE was there that week and took a flight out early on May 4th after the M 'abduction' then so did the other prominent person.
If SSO is correct in his assumption, then it it may have been a cabinet member. Cant see how to pursue this further unless by a process of elimination.. somehow.
You might find [deleted]this thread[/url] of interest.
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Clay Regazzoni wrote:HelenMeg wrote:If PE was there that week and took a flight out early on May 4th after the M 'abduction' then so did the other prominent person.
If SSO is correct in his assumption, then it it may have been a cabinet member. Cant see how to pursue this further unless by a process of elimination.. somehow.
You might find [deleted] of interest.
Sorry Clay, I've deleted your link. Can't you just post the link properly...some people don't like clicking on links at the best of times let alone anonymous ones.
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HelenMeg wrote:If PE was there that week and took a flight out early on May 4th after the M 'abduction' then so did the other prominent person.
If SSO is correct in his assumption, then it it may have been a cabinet member. Cant see how to pursue this further unless by a process of elimination.. somehow.
i think the sy / pj latest 'digs' is about publicity and positioning. this would be in their view unsettle the potential suspect(s). look at the location of last weeks 'dig' near enough to hide a body for a short time or of more interest a place later to get rid of property relating to Maddie if your property was about to be searched (july 2007).
i bet the new places will be near the cliffs opposite to the snail (look at the binacoluars on day one of the 'dig' and/or down towards the restaurant on the road to lagos. i dont think sy expect to find a body but i bet they are monitoring emails, call, internet activity of those they suspect.
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admin wrote:Clay Regazzoni wrote:HelenMeg wrote:If PE was there that week and took a flight out early on May 4th after the M 'abduction' then so did the other prominent person.
If SSO is correct in his assumption, then it it may have been a cabinet member. Cant see how to pursue this further unless by a process of elimination.. somehow.
You might find [deleted] of interest.
Sorry Clay, I've deleted your link. Can't you just post the link properly...some people don't like clicking on links at the best of times let alone anonymous ones.
It is a link to a thread on this site Admin. Clay just edited the very long string of text which is not only thoughtful, but done all the time on forums I go on.
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if sis / mi5 were involved in this case - excuse the pun this would be all dead and buried by now - by what ever means - they certainly would let the endless speculation to go on and on. there would have been closure pretty early on even without a convictionTheTruthWillOut wrote:admin wrote:Clay Regazzoni wrote:HelenMeg wrote:If PE was there that week and took a flight out early on May 4th after the M 'abduction' then so did the other prominent person.
If SSO is correct in his assumption, then it it may have been a cabinet member. Cant see how to pursue this further unless by a process of elimination.. somehow.
You might find [deleted] of interest.
Sorry Clay, I've deleted your link. Can't you just post the link properly...some people don't like clicking on links at the best of times let alone anonymous ones.
It is a link to a thread on this site Admin. Clay just edited the very long string of text which is not only thoughtful, but done all the time on forums I go on.
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WOW! Thanks as ever, Astro for translating all this. Gotta go back now and read all the pages of this fascinating thread.........
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Clay's link.admin wrote:Clay Regazzoni wrote:HelenMeg wrote:If PE was there that week and took a flight out early on May 4th after the M 'abduction' then so did the other prominent person.
If SSO is correct in his assumption, then it it may have been a cabinet member. Cant see how to pursue this further unless by a process of elimination.. somehow.
You might find [deleted] of interest.
Sorry Clay, I've deleted your link. Can't you just post the link properly...some people don't like clicking on links at the best of times let alone anonymous ones.
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t9251-david-hughes
Interesting stuff.
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Yes thanks for link Clay!fossey wrote:Clay's link.admin wrote:Clay Regazzoni wrote:HelenMeg wrote:If PE was there that week and took a flight out early on May 4th after the M 'abduction' then so did the other prominent person.
If SSO is correct in his assumption, then it it may have been a cabinet member. Cant see how to pursue this further unless by a process of elimination.. somehow.
You might find [deleted] of interest.
Sorry Clay, I've deleted your link. Can't you just post the link properly...some people don't like clicking on links at the best of times let alone anonymous ones.
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t9251-david-hughes
Interesting stuff.
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MaybeMaybenot wrote:CynicAl wrote:tigger wrote:SixMillionQuid wrote:Gonçalo Amaral: Yes, we will. When MI5 opens the case files, we will find out.
Don’t forget that the British secret services followed the case right from the beginning. On location.
Well Control Risks Group were on the ground soon after the disappearance and they consist of ex security service personel. So it wouldn't surprise me if the security service were doing their own thing without telling the PJ.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id376.html
A private security firm has been secretly investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann for four months because her parents
feared that Portuguese police were failing properly to search for their daughter.
Iirc Dr. Amaral said it was the British (i think MI5) who pushed them to arrest Murat initially.
Clearly they wanted the case to be wound up quickly.
Might explain the sudden recollection of three of the T 9 that they'd seen him and explain a good deal more.
Is that in the files?
The files actually contain the information that the PJ's investigation was being badged and directed by a representative of MI5, who were naming their own 'prime suspects' and demanding their arbitrary arrest? Did the files mention what evidence was presented for MI5's insistence? Did the director of the PJ consider that his agency's mandate was to do whatever British Military Intelligence told him to do, and to throw an investigation in order to oblige?
Didn't someone also say that it was the British Police who first regarded the parent's as prime suspects?
So how many agencies were actually on the ground in Portugal directing the PJ?
I'm surprised at Amaral... He seems like a man who would tell British Military Intelligence to take a running jump and wait for due process.
Show me one video of anyone who stayed there in resort talking about a missing girl..Everyone must have been gagged....WHY?
This is a definite cover up...Absolutely sure of it
Was it TB who had heard from two separate sources that CM was head of MI5
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Maybe CM was there doing a bit of swinging and nipple twiddlingjack dexter wrote:MaybeMaybenot wrote:CynicAl wrote:tigger wrote:SixMillionQuid wrote:Gonçalo Amaral: Yes, we will. When MI5 opens the case files, we will find out.
Don’t forget that the British secret services followed the case right from the beginning. On location.
Well Control Risks Group were on the ground soon after the disappearance and they consist of ex security service personel. So it wouldn't surprise me if the security service were doing their own thing without telling the PJ.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id376.html
A private security firm has been secretly investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann for four months because her parents
feared that Portuguese police were failing properly to search for their daughter.
Iirc Dr. Amaral said it was the British (i think MI5) who pushed them to arrest Murat initially.
Clearly they wanted the case to be wound up quickly.
Might explain the sudden recollection of three of the T 9 that they'd seen him and explain a good deal more.
Is that in the files?
The files actually contain the information that the PJ's investigation was being badged and directed by a representative of MI5, who were naming their own 'prime suspects' and demanding their arbitrary arrest? Did the files mention what evidence was presented for MI5's insistence? Did the director of the PJ consider that his agency's mandate was to do whatever British Military Intelligence told him to do, and to throw an investigation in order to oblige?
Didn't someone also say that it was the British Police who first regarded the parent's as prime suspects?
So how many agencies were actually on the ground in Portugal directing the PJ?
I'm surprised at Amaral... He seems like a man who would tell British Military Intelligence to take a running jump and wait for due process.
Show me one video of anyone who stayed there in resort talking about a missing girl..Everyone must have been gagged....WHY?
This is a definite cover up...Absolutely sure of it
Was it TB who had heard from two separate sources that CM was head of MI5
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@ Hicks Today 8:25 pm
"What in your opinion was the role of Clarence Mitchel? Do you suppose he just decided on a whim to go to Portugal and assist the McCann's due to his altruistic nature?"
You beat me to it, that was my first thought or at least one of them. This is not a James Bond movie, it's a real life situation and mass cover-ups do happen without the need to bump off everyone who might be aware of the crime. Suppose for example it all revolves around the mass paedophilia horror that is prevalent in the UK, it is the victims that might squeal that are bumped off, if not dismissed as mentally unbalanced, not the vile perpetrators of the crime. A crime that crosses all borders of society, so effectively impossible to dispose of every one who knows something, if I make myself clear. Or suppose a society such as the freemasons is at the root of a cover up, it's customary practice I believe for members of the sect to cover up a crime committed by one of their fellow members.
Not meaning to create a storm but I do think it feasible that this particular case has been manipulated by forces higher than the Mccanns and their inconsequential friends and relatives. Another point being, while it might be possible to order silence by those effecting a cover up, it's impossible in this day and age (with the internet etc) to silence the public. The Mccanns have tried it with isolated individuals, the press and such like but they can't silence the entire planet with legal threats can they?
"What in your opinion was the role of Clarence Mitchel? Do you suppose he just decided on a whim to go to Portugal and assist the McCann's due to his altruistic nature?"
You beat me to it, that was my first thought or at least one of them. This is not a James Bond movie, it's a real life situation and mass cover-ups do happen without the need to bump off everyone who might be aware of the crime. Suppose for example it all revolves around the mass paedophilia horror that is prevalent in the UK, it is the victims that might squeal that are bumped off, if not dismissed as mentally unbalanced, not the vile perpetrators of the crime. A crime that crosses all borders of society, so effectively impossible to dispose of every one who knows something, if I make myself clear. Or suppose a society such as the freemasons is at the root of a cover up, it's customary practice I believe for members of the sect to cover up a crime committed by one of their fellow members.
Not meaning to create a storm but I do think it feasible that this particular case has been manipulated by forces higher than the Mccanns and their inconsequential friends and relatives. Another point being, while it might be possible to order silence by those effecting a cover up, it's impossible in this day and age (with the internet etc) to silence the public. The Mccanns have tried it with isolated individuals, the press and such like but they can't silence the entire planet with legal threats can they?
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Hi AL
But then I detected more of a hint of the suggestion that this was a high level cover-up because the government are trying to hide the fact that a high level government minister was in PDL, bonking his brains out on a swinging holiday at OC, and was there when it all happened (no suggestion if he was involved) and it is all covered up because he doesn't want anyone to know he was there.
If he didn't want anyone to know he was there, why go to OC with Joe Public and his wife? Who was he going to bonk? Would he wear a hood? Would our intelligence services not know where he was? Could someone recognise him? Would anyone be able to resist a kiss and tell?
Surely high level government ministers can indulge their sexual fantasies in private villas on private islands flown by private jet facilitated by private individuals and entirely managed... IN PRIVATE.
No?
Or am I just being too unreal?
I will respond . in this instance you are being too unreal , and i should know i have photographed a few .
Senior Politicians or members of the elite whether it's footballers celebrities etc , nearly always perform these activities in plain sight so to speak , [ high end ] normal holidays ,[ high end ] normal nightclubs , normal brothels !!! ,there circle is secure ,so they don't need to go to the ends of the earth and politicians apart from prescott are mosty none descript[ unless your the footballer with the 3 D Notices !! ] the gay community call it the velvet curtain btw.
This initial protection IMO for an alleged person sha**ing , manifested into what it is today due to the brilliant media campaign , Gerrys cunning and skill [ sic ] which snowballed into an all powerful machine , throw in a few million to pay for lawyers , TV and Press muted because Journo's are too scared to speak out as the papers today are on there arse , and there dare not toe the line .
Add the use of the new platform , social media ,twitter ,blogging used to keep the message on side ,[ paid ] media monitors , there celebrity status , a police force who know they have no realistic chance of conviction .
so next step they will make a few more people aguido's to neutralise that stigma . then the chief will retire . Amaral latest show confirms he starting to lose his cool, and that will also help there corner .
So a little spark can ignite an inferno .
PS The private islands, villas, are more for the non**s . i did a watch outside one in the Canary Islands in 2003
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Check out the bloody footprint thread, looks to me that OG are picking up the search areas from October 07 IMO
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Off topic but give us a clue SSO.stillsloppingout wrote:
Senior Politicians or members of the elite whether it's footballers celebrities etc , nearly always perform these activities in plain sight so to speak , [ high end ] normal holidays ,[ high end ] normal nightclubs , normal brothels !!! ,there circle is secure ,so they don't need to go to the ends of the earth 3]unless your the footballer with the 3 D Notices !! ] the gay community call it the velvet curtain btw.
Not playing in the World Cup is he...?
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fossey wrote:Off topic but give us a clue SSO.stillsloppingout wrote:
Senior Politicians or members of the elite whether it's footballers celebrities etc , nearly always perform these activities in plain sight so to speak , [ high end ] normal holidays ,[ high end ] normal nightclubs , normal brothels !!! ,there circle is secure ,so they don't need to go to the ends of the earth 3]unless your the footballer with the 3 D Notices !! ] the gay community call it the velvet curtain btw.
Not playing in the World Cup is he...?
JT is my guess....
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I think i can be arrested for disclosing that . there are also superinjunctions in place . Who has the money and reputation to merit that ?fossey wrote:Off topic but give us a clue SSO.stillsloppingout wrote:
Senior Politicians or members of the elite whether it's footballers celebrities etc , nearly always perform these activities in plain sight so to speak , [ high end ] normal holidays ,[ high end ] normal nightclubs , normal brothels !!! ,there circle is secure ,so they don't need to go to the ends of the earth 3]unless your the footballer with the 3 D Notices !! ] the gay community call it the velvet curtain btw.
Not playing in the World Cup is he...?
but don't post the answer .
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With the 'gay community' remark i thought it was a left back who was literally left back at home for this world cup.TheTruthWillOut wrote:fossey wrote:Off topic but give us a clue SSO.stillsloppingout wrote:
Senior Politicians or members of the elite whether it's footballers celebrities etc , nearly always perform these activities in plain sight so to speak , [ high end ] normal holidays ,[ high end ] normal nightclubs , normal brothels !!! ,there circle is secure ,so they don't need to go to the ends of the earth 3]unless your the footballer with the 3 D Notices !! ] the gay community call it the velvet curtain btw.
Not playing in the World Cup is he...?
JT is my guess....
Married a tweedy singer a while back.
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I am going to have to edit my post . its not a Gay footballer my bad typing and sentencing . and its 3 superinjunctions not D notices they are national security , this is just a footballer who has three times done stuff . but do not post any names . because this has derailed the thread . and i could be in trouble .
To the mods im sorry .
To the mods im sorry .
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