"Digging" with a helicopter (continued from 'digging at resort')
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Re: "Digging" with a helicopter (continued from 'digging at resort')
Am I going blind and the 'Last Photo' isn't in the PJ files?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOLIDAY-PHOTOS-LIST.htm
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOLIDAY-PHOTOS-LIST.htm
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PeterMac wrote:AT or ACT-ing ?ultimaThule wrote:It would appear that Leicestershire Police had no need to put anything into any computer to reach the conclusion that "While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance".
A conclusion that 'staggered' G&K because, as told in Exhbit KH1, the Assistant Chief Constable for LP had 'come out to Portugal shortly after Madeleine's abduction' and had seen the pair at their 'most grief-stricken'.
Despite having had 7 years to learn the craft, the non-dynamic duo don't appear to possess any acting skills worth mentioning, PeterM and I therefore suspect LP's ACC saw the pair 'at' their most grief stricken, either propping up the bar at the Tapas or at one of the luncheons they gave for ambassadors, consulates, lawyers, and other visiting dignitaries, with catering so thoughtfully provided by MW.
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tiny wrote:When did redwood say this, as its the first I have heard of it.RIPM wrote:After meticulous investigation and critical analysis by SY and Redwood he has declared the last photo is genuine and was taken around 13.00 on Thursday 3 May and the weather was hot and sunny.sofieellis wrote:The parents LIED to the world about the date on which a photo was taken
Is this known for a fact? I always thought the photo doctoring was debatable?
So if anyone has hard evidence that it was not Thursday and the weather not hot and sunny then Redwood is conducting a whitewash
I haven't heard of it either, tiny. Maybe we blinked at the same time?
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I, too, am unaware of that conclusion re the "Last" photo.
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I may be wrong but i think he is saying that if SY accept the picture is genuine, then you can be sure it is a cover up!ShuBob wrote:I, too, am unaware of that conclusion re the "Last" photo.
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TheTruthWillOut wrote:Am I going blind and the 'Last Photo' isn't in the PJ files?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOLIDAY-PHOTOS-LIST.htm
Even though Kate's camera was on the living table on 3/4th May 2007, as photographed by the PJ, the last photo mysteriously appeared in the press after Mr McCann made a trip to the UK. I think one of the T7 was searching for suitable pictures on the 3/4th May 2007 but didn't notice the last photo.
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SixMillionQuid wrote:TheTruthWillOut wrote:Am I going blind and the 'Last Photo' isn't in the PJ files?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOLIDAY-PHOTOS-LIST.htm
Even though Kate's camera was on the living table on 3/4th May 2007, as photographed by the PJ, the last photo mysteriously appeared in the press after Mr McCann made a trip to the UK. I think one of the T7 was searching for suitable pictures on the 3/4th May 2007 but didn't notice the last photo.
Then that should tell everyone all they need to know....One big red flag. As far as I'm aware, even Amaral hasn't mentioned this last photo oddity?
I just can't believe how many blatant things in this case seem to be completely ignored.
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With all this talk of digging for a body, does anyone remember a beach picture being discussed either on here, or 3A (think it was here) It was a blurred picture of a couple on the beach at the base of Rocha Negra and there was speculation as to who it was and if they had a bag with them.
I've looked everywhere for it but don't know how to search for just images.
eta Will search my posts to see if it's on here
I've looked everywhere for it but don't know how to search for just images.
eta Will search my posts to see if it's on here
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stargazer59 wrote:I may be wrong but i think he is saying that if SY accept the picture is genuine, then you can be sure it is a cover up!ShuBob wrote:I, too, am unaware of that conclusion re the "Last" photo.
I have no doubt K&G want to believe they'll be exonerated of complicity in the disappearance of their eldest daugher, but it seems to me that, even if 'the last photo' is declared genuine which afaik it hasn't been, their beliefs are destined to be riddled with doubt.
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The "last photo" is indeed not among the pictures on the PJ files. And yes it appeared long after photos were requested, handed over etc and Gerry said in a sworn statement he had no other photos in his possession.
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TheTruthWillOut... Yes, it is strange that Amaral does not really explore the problems with the last photo. In his book he says how he notices the camera shown on the table and says how it will be crucial to get everyone's photos.
And yet nobody... The McCanns, their friends or the PJ seems to have noticed this image which the McCanns insist is so important, in going through photos in the days following the disappearance. Or maybe never saw it.
And yet nobody... The McCanns, their friends or the PJ seems to have noticed this image which the McCanns insist is so important, in going through photos in the days following the disappearance. Or maybe never saw it.
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Is this the one you mean ?
littlepixie wrote:With all this talk of digging for a body, does anyone remember a beach picture being discussed either on here, or 3A (think it was here) It was a blurred picture of a couple on the beach at the base of Rocha Negra and there was speculation as to who it was and if they had a bag with them.
I've looked everywhere for it but don't know how to search for just images.
eta Will search my posts to see if it's on here
Is this it ?
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Sorry PRoffessor Marvel, I gave thanks to the wrong person. I've got a mini-crisis here tonight so not concentrating properly
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Is it a real picture or is it a postcard? I was just thinking about something someone said (was it Paulo Saegento or somebody with a name like that) about the beach at dawn.
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littlepixie wrote:Is it a real picture or is it a postcard? I was just thinking about something someone said (was it Paulo Saegento or somebody with a name like that) about the beach at dawn.
I immediately thought 'postcard'. It has the border of a postcard!
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was it some-one /something called 'oddity finder' ?
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Professor Marvel wrote:littlepixie wrote:With all this talk of digging for a body, does anyone remember a beach picture being discussed either on here, or 3A (think it was here) It was a blurred picture of a couple on the beach at the base of Rocha Negra and there was speculation as to who it was and if they had a bag with them.
I've looked everywhere for it but don't know how to search for just images.
eta Will search my posts to see if it's on here
Is this it ?
Gosh - where did you find it Prof.Marvel? I have been searching through my history cos I only came across it last week when searching for something else - still can`t find where I saw it.
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Ladyinred wrote:mariola wrote:I thought Oldfield checked but didn,t enter the room,saw the twins but not Maddie.Andrew77R wrote:He didn't.Watching wrote:why would oldfield the one who knew Mr & Mrs & family least, be one to go in 5A and check on their children?
Simples.
Oldfield claims that is what he did.
IIRC he did not go in (excuse for not seeing Madeleine), but he saw the twins in their cots, breathing.
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The Chilcott Inquiry and Blair's illegal war will not conveniently go away. It will be the same with the McCann case: an everlasting source of national shame and loss of standing in the world. These blights and how they are dealt with define who we are and what we stand for in the end.
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Perhaps even at this very moment, the MET's most experienced 'child abductor' expert, DCI Andy Redwood, is leading the 38 strong, solely dedicated, UK 'team' on the trail of the 300 'abducted' Nigerian girls!
Would explain his hasty retreat from PDL.
The Foreign Ofiice would neither confirm or deny that the 'abductors' of the Nigerian girls were wearing unique super bock T-shirts, were pot bellied and whiffed a bit, thought to be highly significant, by the expert, and that they had used a white van in the 'abduction'
IF DCI Redwood is 'on the Nigerian case' the UK elite 'Nigerian Cops' from the MET should have them returned to their families sometime before 2173.
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Perhaps even at this very moment, the MET's most experienced 'child abductor' expert, DCI Andy Redwood, is leading the 38 strong, solely dedicated, UK 'team' on the trail of the 300 'abducted' Nigerian girls!
Would explain his hasty retreat from PDL.
The Foreign Ofiice would neither confirm or deny that the 'abductors' of the Nigerian girls were wearing unique super bock T-shirts, were pot bellied and whiffed a bit, thought to be highly significant, by the expert, and that they had used a white van in the 'abduction'
IF DCI Redwood is 'on the Nigerian case' the UK elite 'Nigerian Cops' from the MET should have them returned to their families sometime before 2173.
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lj wrote:Ladyinred wrote:mariola wrote:I thought Oldfield checked but didn,t enter the room,saw the twins but not Maddie.Andrew77R wrote:He didn't.Watching wrote:why would oldfield the one who knew Mr & Mrs & family least, be one to go in 5A and check on their children?
Simples.
Oldfield claims that is what he did.
IIRC he did not go in (excuse for not seeing Madeleine), but he saw the twins in their cots, breathing.
I think he told the Police he was in or near the doorway but in the mockumentary "reconstruction" he's standing a good 3-4 feet away from the doorway and swearing blind that's as far as he went. And yet in semi-darkness he also claims he could see the rise and fall of the twins' chests through the mesh sidings of the cots! Literally incredible.
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I think he told the Police he was in or near the doorway but in the mockumentary "reconstruction" he's standing a good 3-4 feet away from the doorway and swearing blind that's as far as he went. And yet in semi-darkness he also claims he could see the rise and fall of the twins' chests through the mesh sidings of the cots! Literally incredible.
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Ah yes. BUT, to be fair, he was wearing the similar 'majik' glasses, that K&G were wearing. Which enabled them to 'have a clear line of sight of their kids' even through the solid brick walls of their apartment 150 feet away, whilst BOTH having their BACKS to apartment 5A as they tell us in their signed statements!
I think he told the Police he was in or near the doorway but in the mockumentary "reconstruction" he's standing a good 3-4 feet away from the doorway and swearing blind that's as far as he went. And yet in semi-darkness he also claims he could see the rise and fall of the twins' chests through the mesh sidings of the cots! Literally incredible.
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Ah yes. BUT, to be fair, he was wearing the similar 'majik' glasses, that K&G were wearing. Which enabled them to 'have a clear line of sight of their kids' even through the solid brick walls of their apartment 150 feet away, whilst BOTH having their BACKS to apartment 5A as they tell us in their signed statements!
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jeanmonroe wrote:Okeydokey
I think he told the Police he was in or near the doorway but in the mockumentary "reconstruction" he's standing a good 3-4 feet away from the doorway and swearing blind that's as far as he went. And yet in semi-darkness he also claims he could see the rise and fall of the twins' chests through the mesh sidings of the cots! Literally incredible.
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Ah yes. BUT, to be fair, he was wearing the similar 'majik' glasses, that K&G were wearing. Which enabled them to 'have a clear line of sight of their kids' even through the solid brick walls of their apartment 150 feet away, whilst BOTH having their BACKS to apartment 5A as they tell us in their signed statements!
Backs to the apartments...plus, just think about the noise levels. Nine lively people at the table, on holiday,the wine flow freely...how quiet is that going to be? Add in the noise of the waiters collecting plates and depositing meals, plus the chink of glasses from the bar, the noise of the other customers and no doubt the sounds cooking coming from the restaurant . Are you going to hear the scream of a child at 50 metres, from inside the apartment, as the crow flies? - er no.
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Woofer wrote:Professor Marvel wrote:littlepixie wrote:With all this talk of digging for a body, does anyone remember a beach picture being discussed either on here, or 3A (think it was here) It was a blurred picture of a couple on the beach at the base of Rocha Negra and there was speculation as to who it was and if they had a bag with them.
I've looked everywhere for it but don't know how to search for just images.
eta Will search my posts to see if it's on here
Is this it ?
Gosh - where did you find it Prof.Marvel? I have been searching through my history cos I only came across it last week when searching for something else - still can`t find where I saw it.
It's right here !
This is the page it's on, details of photographer & links to original site it was found are all here :
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4965-why-would-destroy-a-million-pound-luxury-villa
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What Oldfield says he did and what he actually did are 2 different things.Okeydokey wrote:lj wrote:Ladyinred wrote:mariola wrote:I thought Oldfield checked but didn,t enter the room,saw the twins but not Maddie.Andrew77R wrote:He didn't.Watching wrote:why would oldfield the one who knew Mr & Mrs & family least, be one to go in 5A and check on their children?
Simples.
Oldfield claims that is what he did.
IIRC he did not go in (excuse for not seeing Madeleine), but he saw the twins in their cots, breathing.
I think he told the Police he was in or near the doorway but in the mockumentary "reconstruction" he's standing a good 3-4 feet away from the doorway and swearing blind that's as far as he went. And yet in semi-darkness he also claims he could see the rise and fall of the twins' chests through the mesh sidings of the cots! Literally incredible.
IMO he didn't set foot in 5a at all when he claimed to see the twins breathing. AS HE DID NOT DO A CHECK.
It's nonsense.
I think he volunteered himself to be a 'checker' when scribbling down the pathetic timelines on the sticker book. Then later realised he had put himself in a very awkward situation to be the last person to see her.
So he backtracked with more nonsense about not actually seeing MBM on his 'check' but he did see the twins breathing.
Again, it's nonsense. Just like most of the stuff Oldfield has spouted.
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The dig has been finished.
They did the digging when no one was watching, as we predicted.
CCTV from the Car Park confirms this.
CCTV from the Car Park confirms this.
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