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Post by Guest 14.11.11 13:04

Molly wrote:
candyfloss wrote:According to David Payne's statement of it was the blinds and the fridge (not washing machine) they had someone to come and look at...................





Person Interviewed: David PAYNE
Place of Interview: Force Headquarters, Enderby
Date of Interview: 11.04.08
Time Commenced: 1026 hours
Time Concluded: 1154 hours
Interviewing Officer(s) DC 1485 MESSIAH
Other Persons Present None


Reply ”Err we, you know we did obviously retrospectively question you know who’d been in, in to the resort to actually work there. They, on one of the days they had some err gardening people which we hadn’t you know seen before and we you know we just wondered, you know, after Madeleine had gone err you know who they were and what their you know validity was if you like. Err the, I know that again, you know Kate and Gerry had had problems err with I think it was the blinds in their flat and the fridge and they’d had people in err you know into the flat, you know which obviously retrospectively was a concern as well. Err yeah that, you know who were those people, had they been checked out.”

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Yes, the gardener and maintenance men were highly suspicious. Especially considering Kate left them alone in the empty apartment while she ran back to watch her husband and daughter playing tennis. Then she had to run back to the apartment to get her camera that she forgot and managed to get the perfect shot of her daughter in the second last photo that is now of course known all around the world. She forgot to mention of the maintenance men were still there or if they had already left.

Not of importance but the maintenance men was one man and one woman...:) Luis and Mario, yeah I thought of Super Mario bros right away... titter
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Post by Guest 14.11.11 13:23

Moa, their statements read as if they are both men. What makes you think one of them was a woman?
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Post by Guest 14.11.11 13:28

Stella wrote:Moa, their statements read as if they are both men. What makes you think one of them was a woman?

At the end of the statement it says : . She has read the statement, finds it in conformity and signs it;
. The document is duly signed by me...

But I see now that it is probably a typo from the translater, as rest of the statement says he :) Sorry, I also thought of Luis as a girls name, but confused it with Louise I guess..
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Post by Guest 14.11.11 13:34

That's right Moa, it is a typo, but well done for finding it. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Louis is a very popular boys name in Portugal.
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Post by HiDeHo 15.11.11 23:40

TUESDAY

TUESDAY May 1st
Ella O'Brien AM
Madeleine McCann
Amelie & Sean
Lily
9.00
9.30
9.20
9.?
ROB
GM
GM
??
xxxx
12.20
12.20
12.20
xxxx
GM
KM
??
Madeleine McCann PM
Ella O'Brien
Amelie & Sean
Lily xx
2.30
2.30
2.30
xxxx
GM
CAT
KM
xxxx
xxxxx
5.30
5.20
xxxx
xxxxx
ROB
KM
xxxx

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Kate phone activity May 1st:
10.16.42 (After tennis or in apartment while maintenance fixing blinds or by pool with Rachael?)
11.56.06
12.17.21...Just before she picked up Twins from creche & GM picked Madeleine
19.45.03

20.31.31
20.33.32
20.35.58
20.37.24

22.16.15........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn
22.23.15........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn
22.23.28........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn
22.24.22........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn
22.25.36........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn
22.27.50........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn

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The maintenance workers were fixing the blinds and showing Kate how to work the washing machine between 10 and 11.

Kate was also 'supposedly' playing tennis 9.15am -10.15am

Rachael claims this for Thursday but Madeleine's group played tennis on Tuesday
Rachael - I saw Kate, I chatted to Kate by the pool, erm in the morning”.
1578 “What time was that”?
Reply “That would have been from sort of, you know half nine, ten o’clock onwards
, we were chatting when Madeleine arrived for the tennis lesson with the rest of the children from her group, erm I think that was probably about ten thirty, erm and Gerry was there then as well, I think he’d been having a lesson on the tennis courts I think, he was having group lessons, so I think he might have been having his lesson sort of up until then, erm so they were both there then and then erm Matt and I had our tennis lesson and then Jane and I,

Tuesday appears to be the last credible sighting of Madeleine (IMO) by Georgina the tennis coach at the same time that Gerry had his tennis lesson with Dan. (where tennis pic was taken?)

Jez joned in tennis doubles with Gerry and two friends after the lesson approx 11.15am - 12.15.am and then Jez, ROB and Gerry walked to the creche to pick Gerry signed out Madeleine but ROB did not sign out E**a
Jez - After the lessons, this time we had a game of doubles together with two friends of his! At this point I established that Jerry and his family had come along with a group of other families, four (4) in totals. The game longed about one hour and a quarter.


Did something 'happen' that afternoon?

After lunch at 1.30 K&G took the children to the beach with the twins in carriage.

on Tuesday there was a slight change given that after lunch, at 13h30, he and KATE decided to take the three children to Paris da Luz, having gone on foot, taking only the twins in baby carriages. They all left by the main door due to the carriages, went around to the right, down the street of the supermarket and went to the beach along a road directly ahead.

Gerry and Madeleine paddled in the water.

They went to an esplanade of a cafe (Paraiso?) where they had 5 ice creams and 2 drinks and watched a guitarist.

the individual had a neglected and careless appearance, unshaven and somewhat shabby [raggedy]. He was Caucasian, 175cm tall, thin, 70 to 75kg in weight, dark, short hair, almost shaven-headed with grey sides, and not wearing glasses. Wearing a light brown-coloured “kispo” [coat?], with a hood at the back, and dark cotton trousers, not noticing the footwear. He said that he never behaved strangely, nor approached or looked at the children in an ostensible [deliberate/menacing] manner

They left the beach area after spending 20 mins there as it became cloudy and cold.


In the afternoon Gerry signed Madeleine in at 2.30 and Cat Nanny signed Ella in at the same time.

ROB
I recall going for a sailing lesson on Tuesday and Jane went to play tennis, we collected the kids as usual around lunchtime, Kate and Gerry had lunch in their apartment as they did on most days. I went out in the afternoon to the beach I was with Matt and as far as I can recall we went out kayaking.


No-one signed Madeleine out and Ella was signed out by ? at 5.30pm

After 3.00pm I can see no statements (so far) describing what any of the tapas 7 did until the evening.

Tuesday was Quiz night, ROB was not there due to one of the children being sick (contradictions on different statements whether E**a or E**e.)

He also states it was the first time they were all together. (both JT and ROB cannot agree on days Monday or Tuesday)

Rachael says she was ill that night (Rog) but also also says not at tapas on Wednesday.

She thinks they went to the flat four times: Gerry twice and she twice. Approx. 9, 9:30, 10, and 10:30PM.

on that night, after midnight, Madeleine went to their room and said that her sister Amelie was crying, and slep with her and Gerry in their room. She says that before Madeleine appeared in their room, she had already heard Amelie crying, however she did not go to the room, as Madeleine went to the room almost at the same time she head the crying. She does not remember if afterwards she or Gerry went to the childrens’ room, however she states that Amelie cried for a short time.

She says that on that night the twins slept in the room where Madeleine slept, each in their own crib.

When asked if Madeleine slept in their room, she says yes, as mentioned, on the Tuesday night.

NOTE: Cleaner saw a crib in the McCann's bedroom on Wednesday morning.

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9.00pm approx quiz and once finished Najoua Chekaya ws invited to the table of nine guests

She was at their table for about fifteen to twenty minutes and it was there that she met Mdeleine’s father, who directly invited her to the table, however, she does not know whether Madeleine’s mother was also there

they talked of banalities and she did not notice any aspect or behaviour that was out of the ordinary.
When questioned, she said that during the time that she was there Madeleine’s father did not leave the table, neither did any of the other guests, however, during this time one of the chairs was always empty, that of someone who had had dinner and left, not managing to indicate any identifying element about this person.

When questioned, she said she was at the table from about 21.30 to 21.50

Witness statement: Najoua Chekaya
Date: 20 June 2007
--- In accordance with the statements made by her in this case, on 9 May 2007, she confirms it
having been on the Tuesday, 1 May 2007, that she was invited to the table of the group of which
the McCann couple were part, by Gerry himself.
--- That she recalls there being an
empty place [seat] at the table, not being certain if it had been
Madeleine's mother's place
given that she is not sure if they had met each other there at that time.
--- The photographs of the group of the McCann's friends having been shown to her, the deponent
declares that from those photos seen
she has some reservations about David Payne [in that] while
she thinks he was also there, she had not noted his presence.

--- The question asked she declares not being certain who was missing from the group.






Kates mobile places her in/near 5 A? for 6 calls between 10:16approx and 10:27approx

22.16.15........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn
22.23.15........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn
22.23.28........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn
22.24.22........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn
22.25.36........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn
22.27.50........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn

Kate say ROB was looking after younger daughter and Jane or SOMEONE took him his meal (reason for empty place setting?)

MRS FENN HEARD CRYING between 10:30 and 11:45

Finished dinner around 11 PM, and together with Gerry, left for the apartment

Mrs Fenn did not tell Kate and Gerry about.the crying...yet they claimed Amelie crying later in the evening (midnight) and Madeleine slept in their room. (One cot was seen by the cleaner, the following morning in the parents bedroom)

Kate denied the cot was in the room (WHY?)


Tuesday 01.05.2007 (holiday)
Breakfast apartment
Kids club - mini-tennis ↓
09.15-10.15 K ↓
G 10.15-11.15 ↓
Madeleine and Ella
* Get camera
Lunch → apartment
RAIN
Kids club beach, sunglasses
Ice cream
13:30 → 15:00 ish
Kids club? 15.15
? time not so good
? G tennis lessons - ok
High tea 16:30
? recreational area
Restaurant? object tennis
No Russell, Evie felt ill
(5D) Russ remained in apartment
Food was brought up


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On Tuesday 1st May 2007, Gerald McCann’s handset was silent all day. Kate McCann’s mobile first activated the Luz antenna at 10.16, but all details of the day’s calls have been deleted from the handset and there is no nothing in the CD from her mobile provider. Another activation took place at 12.17. The crèche records show that Gerald McCann picked up Madeleine at 12.20 (a bit earlier than usual) but Kate McCann’s call at 12.17 does not appear to have been to him, (because his mobile was not activated at all that day). Kate McCann dealt with her last call before leaving for the Tapas Bar at 20.35.


At around 8.45pm on Tuesday 1st May 2007, Miss Nejoua Chekeya, the Ocean Club’s busty Aerobics Instructor, held a “Quiz Night” and was later invited, allegedly by Gerald McCann, to join his table which she did sometime between 9.30pm and 9.50pm. She did not say how long she had remained with them, but she is not the sort of woman men would wish see to leave too quickly. Miss Chekeya stated that one dinner setting was unused and that she could not remember seeing Kate McCann.

However, both Jane Tanner and Russell O’Brien have stated that he did not go to the Tapas Bar on the “Quiz Night” (ie Tuesday 1st May 2007), but had stayed in their room looking after his sick daughter. Jane Tanner took his dinner to the room; thus explaining the unused plate setting. Russell O’Brien was not asked by either the Policia Judiciaria or Leicestershire Police whether he had heard Madeleine crying!

Kate McCann’s mobile was next activated six times, in rapid fire, between 22.16 and 22.27, after she had returned to Apartment 5A after dinner. The antenna traffic proves that these calls were not made to any of the “Tapas 9”.


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Post by Doug D 26.02.16 10:07

Having a look at the Foster’s for any evidence that their daughter was at the crèche, but have to assume that she was in a different group to MM and therefore not on Cat’s register, but came across this for Tuesday afternoon. I’m sure it has been looked at before, but I’ll put it up on this thread as it doesn’t appear here:
 
Tue 1st May afternoon
 
Cat Baker statement (10/5/07):
 
‘….that in the last days they went to the beach on Tuesday afternoon (01 of May 2007), between 15H30 and 16h30, on Wednesday (the next day) at the same time and on Thursday between 10 and 11h00’
 
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KM book:
 
In the afternoon Gerry and I decided to take the children down to the beach. To be honest, I think they’d have been just as happy to go back to their clubs, but we wanted to do something slightly different with them, just the five of us. We
borrowed a double buggy from Mark Warner to make the walk easier for Sean and Amelie. The weather wasn’t great: in fact, on the beach it started to rain. A bit of rain is not something that bothers a Scotsman like Gerry, but Sean and Amelie didn’t like the feel of the wet sand and insisted, in the way two-year-olds do, on being carried.
Our trip to the beach wasn’t exactly a roaring success and the kids certainly weren’t thanking us for it. Still, we made the best of it, and the suggestion of ice-creams soon brought smiles to three little faces. The children and I sat down on a bench and Gerry went off to fetch them. ……………..
Having polished off her ice-cream, Madeleine asked if she could go back to Mini Club now, please. So much for extra family time! Before heading up the road, we stopped at a shop on the corner of Rua da Praia and Avenida dos Pescadores, one of several open-air, market-style stalls, as Gerry needed a pair of sunglasses…………
We dropped the kids off at their clubs for the last hour and a half, meeting up with them as usual for tea………
 
GM’s 10th May 2007 statement:
 
‘on Tuesday there was a slight change given that after lunch, at 13h30, the deponent and KATE decided to take the three children to Praia da Luz, having gone on foot, taking only the twins in baby buggies. They all left by the main door because of the buggies, went around to the right, down the street of the “BATISTA” supermarket and went to the beach along a road directly ahead.
 
They were at the beach for about 20 minutes, the deponent and MADELEINE having put their feet in the water. During this time the weather changed with a cloudy sky and cold, therefore they went to a terrace at a café near the beach, on the left, where they bought five ice-creams and two drinks. Asked, he said that at that place there was an individual playing latin music on a guitar………..
On returning they left the children at their crèches, as usual, the deponent and his wife having gone to play tennis or jogging.
 
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GM says 13.30 to the beach.
KM saysI think they’d have been just as happy to go back to their clubs’, implying it was later than this as club time was from 14.30.
 
And ‘we dropped the kids off at their clubs for the last hour and a half’ which makes it about 16.00 as they were supervised until 17.30 when they were returned to their parents at high tea.
 
So they didn’t see MM’s group on the beach and took her back to the Mini Club at about 16.00 when her group would not have been there.
 
Yet the crèche records show:
MM signed in by GM @ 14.30
Amelie & Sean signed in by KM @ 14.30
 
The McCann’s were also booked on the tennis courts between 2.30 & 3.30
 
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Maybe this was just KM’s way of illustrating that they actually spent almost a whole afternoon with their own kids on the holiday, not knowing that the files would show something rather different.
 
Quick trip to the beach at lunchtime, back to their crèches as soon as they opened at 14.30, so we could have more ‘me’ time?
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