Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be

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I think we've been this way too many times before - the public being misled by media and press reports, aided and abetted by false witnesses with a story to tell in exchange for a palm of silver.



Why should a known felon who appears from nowhere, some years down the line, be believed over and above all the other debris carried in the wake of a tragedy - the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Madeleine who?

The child is the priority but alas has been killed and buried by sensationalism.

BAH !!!

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t15551-bearing-false-witness#391176

Remember Raymond Hewlett, who hit the headlines some years ago with a similar story to tell as Christian Brueckner, anyone?

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16332-timeline-raymond-hewlett#401877

Madeleine McCann major update after police scour lake in search for her body

Detectives from the Federal Criminal Police (BKA) spent several days searching for any sign of Madeleine McCann at the Arade Dam last month but they are set to disappoint the missing girl's family

ByAntony ThrowerNews Reporter

   23:43, 8 Jul 2023

Police searching for Maddie McCann’s body in a lake in an area the prime suspect in her disappearance called his “little paradise” have warned of what they may find.

Detectives from the Federal Criminal Police (BKA), Germany’s equivalent of the FBI, spent several days searching land next to the Arade Dam last month. They used sniffer dogs, radar and search teams to scour the location just 31 miles from where three-year-old Maddie vanished in 2007.

Prime suspect Christian Brueckner, 45, once referred to the location as his "little paradise".

In an effort to track down clues as to if Maddie had been thrown in, police dug several deep boreholes. However, in a blow to Maddie’s family and their supporters detectives are set to confirm they have not found anything of note.

German public prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told Bild: “Please don’t expect too much.”

It remains unclear as to why investigators decided to search the land near the dam so thoroughly. Police teams were seen methodically chopping down trees and hacking away at undergrowth to expose an area just a short distance from the water.

Photographs appear to show the remains of a camp at the mysterious spot with broken furniture, a torn ship’s buoy and even what appeared to be a makeshift toilet fashioned from a chair. Portuguese sources point to an informant giving police a specific tip-off that Brueckner visited the site just days after Maddie went missing from her room in Praia da Luz.

This tip-off is believed to have been matched with geolocation clues found in the convicted paedophile's vile stash of 8,000 of videos and images. Together it is thought these clues combined sparked the search at the remote site.

It was claimed they were searching for a camcorder and a gun tossed into the water but Portuguese police sources were quick to dismiss that. Regardless of what is found at the site, top German criminal profiler Axel Petermann, says the cops were right to dig at a place so close to Brueckner's heart.

He told The Mirror: “The criminal perpetrators who I got to know over the years tend to hide their victims in places where they feel safe and can assess danger.

“These are places which are secluded and secret and where they can stop and assess various risks.

“They can also be places where they feel good, and where there is a certain private memory of a certain act.

“So, I think the search activity may have been going in this direction.

“My recommendation when dealing with suspects in the case of missing people, is always to find the places where these suspects spent time, where they had secrets, where they could assess risks, so from this point of view I think the investigators’ current search was very important.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-major-update-after-30423296

To whom it may concern .... HELLO !!!

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16899-a-report-by-chief-inspector-tavares-de-almeida-to-the-coordinator-of-the-criminal-investigation-10thseptember-2007#421772

EXCLUSIVE

   NewsWorld News

MADDIE HUNT Major update in hunt for Madeleine McCann after cops scour lake for her body

   Published: 21:10, 8 Jul 2023Updated: 21:21, 8 Jul 2023
   Scarlet Howes

POLICE scouring a lake for the body of Madeleine McCann expect to draw a blank, we can reveal.

German detectives have said there is “no compelling evidence” she is there.

Snifferdogs and radar were used during the three-day search last month of Arade Dam reservoir.

Prime suspect, German national Christian B, 45, referred to the remote Algarve spot as his “little paradise”.

It is around 30 miles from Praia da Luz where Maddie was snatched in 2007 from a holiday flat while parents Kate and Gerry were out.

Sources claim local cops received a tip-off that Christian B had gone there a few days after Maddie went missing.

Police dug 2ft deep bore holes at the reservoir hoping, it is believed, to unearth fibres or clothing linked to Madeleine.

A Portuguese newspaper said “relevant information” was found and clothing remains, soil samples and pieces of plastic were taken away for analysis.

According to German tabloid Bild, however, detectives are likely to say that the evidence they need to nail Christian B is not there.

German public prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “Please don’t expect too much.”

Christian B is in a German jail for the rape of a 72-year-old woman in Praia da Luz in 2005.

He is suspected of further rapes and child abuse.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22982861/major-update-hunt-madeleine-mccann-lake/

German public prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “Please don’t expect too much.”

To whom it may concern..

The more discerning didn't nor don't nor wouldn't expect anything !!!

Detectives in Madeleine McCann search issue update after scouring lake

A three-day search of a reservoir was carried out last month

Detectives hunting for missing Madeleine McCann have said there is “no compelling evidence” from a reservoir search. A three-day search of the remote Barragem do Arade Reservoir was carried out by police last month.

Cops dug deep holes during their search of the dam, which is around 50km from Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, where Maddie vanished - aged just three - back in May 2007. They also took samples of soil to compare to dirt samples on file of prime suspect Christian B's van.

German tabloid Bild reports detectives are likely to say that no evidence of Maddie was found. The pubication reports public prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters as saying: “Please don’t expect too much.”

Christian B is in prison in Germany for the rape of a woman in Praia da Luz in 2005, and is suspected of further rapes and child sexual abuse committed in the area between 2000 and 2017. He has reportedly denied any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.

Madeleine vanished while on holiday with her parents Kate and Gerry McCann - who live in Rothley, in Leicestershire. She was left sleeping with her younger twin siblings in their apartment while they ate dinner with friends.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/world-news/detectives-madeleine-mccann-search-issue-27285578

To whom it may concern..

SOD OFF !!!

But did they search Jon Clarke's Druidic Circle.

He will no doubt have many more articles prepared about why they failed . . .

come on, we have to love the sun and its sources, first german police officers, that means they are better over there, we have hardly ever got portuguese active police offers that have been sources in the last 16 plus years.

ordinary portuguese sources we had already, but not portuguese active police officers as a source, so now we have german police that do talk, and that can not have been a official german mouthpiece because that is named hcw. it is a kind of world news of course, because the public has to not expect that happening.

the bild citation must be an oldy, no new article to find online, and i did not hear it in the bild online talkshow feature on you tube. i only listen to the first part, maybe there was a return to the hb story at the end, but i did not had the want to listen to much more crappy stuff about other people. 

i did learn a new word from the last one; The pubication


https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pubication



i do not think i will ever need that word, but always nice to understand what they mean. and it is not the first publication that talkes about that part of the classic understanding of a female body in this case of course. 


but i like it they are excepting now a specific portuguese news outlet as a good enough quality source, at least they give it at least the same standing as their own is, still utter rubbish of course, but that news outlet is the cmjornal, also known as correia da maha. given the reputation this news outlet has in earlier years about this case, that is quite surprising. 


cm has even quite a nice timeline, so you can easily look back to all about this dam searches; 
https://www.cmjornal.pt/maissobre/madeleine-mccann



at least we could find out it is already very old news. 


also taking a look at the german page for official news of hcw, in german of course, his latest news was already given on the first of june. okay it was still this year. any direct citation must be from the reaction to the german tv. usually there is time directly after to make some shots and ask a question by the media. but the last one was also the first of june.


so we are getting into the time of the year the dutch call 'komkommertijd', the germans 'sommerloch', just the terms to say, there is no real news and we still have to fill up a paper or 6.  or what in english i understand is named the silly season. 


but come on, german police officers that talk openly, okay without their names, but as sources, that is usually seen as impossible, not in the real world. because they talk as much as all others of course. 
i do not like it at all if only sources are used, or even worse, other reporting persons are used as sources. because often the news is only news because who is the source, not that much the message. and it is to easy to just make up your own sources. in the press it is just known they can keep sources unidentified. 


and again they do not realize it, but they are helping cb with his alibi. where is the he fled from the region directly after may 3 2007, at least after all the articles this spring, we know you can hardly say that.


we will have to read more crap the next weeks. and why would they stop after just a few weeks, they made their job from putting out crappy stuff. the real stuff can not be written about and that curse is quite contagious over all continents of the world. just two commoners who overruled the world of media, i would call it far to silly to be happening, but it simply does. think of that, most of our bigger papers started once out in the war, to bring the truth to the people about a dangerous man and his servants, the risk was death. and today they are bowing for people who have multiple high courts telling us, they never have been cleared. 


still we always will end up with pieces nicked from a mostly uk media source in our papers. and we do not have silly restrictions at all. even the translation of amaral's first book was openly for sale in the netherlands. 


so yes, i do think 2 people who can dictate what we read and hear and see in the media the true breaking news. 
and it keeps in my mind when i do read other stories, if just two commoners could fix that, what else is fixed by just little people. 
maybe it is time they get back into that old format, separation into news and other entertainment, so we can read facts and findings and decide if we also want to be entertained with other stuff, i am not fond at all, that all must become entertainment. because a lot deserves better attention. 


did you know that in most european countries there are laws and regulations for the media, when it comes to exploiting a minor, well the meaning of these, are in place for living minors. dead people have hardly any restrictions left. even when a minor chooses to be famous and in the media, the restrictions still have to be followed through. in this case, no one have had the chance to ask what this minor, madeleine, could or would want. there are parents that all these years told us she is alive, still they never used the restrictions about what is published with her picture, you can hardly say these pictures of a under 4 years old child are still functional at al. 
the media are more invested into the the child is long dead opinions. it would hard to solve that in a court of law, and both parties would probably not wish to get their answer. 


and the media are just mastering very well to write in a manner, our minds would fill in the gaps. 


by the way, do we remember kate mccann her own words, the portuguese do not want a murder on their grounds, they do not like to matter much at the moment about the germans who are the first who actually have it on paper with a murder case on their remit. and portugal is nicely working ahead with the germans. 


that tavares almeida report also talks not about murder, but far lesser likely charges to the case. died by accident, does not sound like a murder at all, it is in itself not even criminal. hiding a body, in itself that is usually more named as a minor offence, not directly hard criminal stuff. the hardest part of the conclusion is the staging of an abduction. only there is can get very nasty. 


the uk media and their nick it brigade abroad do not like to remember its existence at all, because if you read it you know how many lies they already have used and are still using in this case. 
and there is no law to cite out of it, it is public domain stuff, free to use for all. it is also not that they had no access, there was a unheard off interest when the dvd with the pj files got out. they also could make use, like us, from the translations on the site of pamalam, just like most here would do. they can check it even very easily. like we can do. and they have an original dvd directly from the source, the pj so can even check that too. 


you can even tell where it was found, so no unnamed source needed. so much better than the next and the next source to this, source to that. 


kai feldhaus has on bild also an article with a question mark, it is short, but hard;


title; Has Scotland Yard been sleeping around for nine years?


first sentence; If this statement is true, then this is nothing less than a police scandal.


about the hb musings. i think the question mark is rightly there, because i cannot find any word about a hotline from or to scotland yard. i think hb made it up for a better story. in itself it does not sounds true.


the original article is short and in german, but does not have any news, who wants can translate the rest themselves;
https://www.bild.de/news/ausland/news-ausland/brisante-maddie-aussage-hat-scotland-yard-neun-jahre-lang-gepennt-84504674.bild.html



many english outlets have taken this also for a bit, most with not the full extent of hb his words, but with the same question marks.


none have taken the time to look in to it, some say no comment from scotland yard, they are looking if the had a hotline of course and are still searching. 
it bring on difficulties of course, because if scotland yard really are still sleeping on it, you can certainly call that bungling. 


of course we already know they have the obligation to simply follow their remit, so the lack of results from that handling of the case, we can hardly call really bungling. 
and their opinion must be a bit fixed too, because if they simply say, such an event could never have existed, because we did never had a hotline then. they will blow up the witness of the germans in other cases. 


i am quite disappointing the uk media is not biting back to the german media on it. some have taken the bit, but are not even tried to win that race. 

The usual suspects, it comes from a central sauce and rages like wild fire across tabloid express..




But it is Sunday so I guess it's aloud!

If all this b/s was written as a tv drama or a film it would be panned by the critics . 

Because it's in the media it's lapped up and believed !

MADDIE GAMBLE Madeleine McCann update as desperate cops plot ‘game-changing’ move to snare suspect Christian B

Jonathan Rose
Published: 18:21, 10 Jul 2023Updated: 4:18, 11 Jul 2023

DESPERATE cops are plotting a "game-changing" move to snare the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case, an insider has claimed.
Ex-pal turned police informer Helge ­B is currently assisting officers investigating Christian B.


And the Sun Online understands police plan to hand a dossier on Christian B, 45, to his former friend in a bid to throw up fresh leads.
They also want to speak to Helge B, 52, about a number of new leads they are working on. 
Our insider said: "Helge spent many years at the side of Christian B travelling with him and being his partner in crime.
"This means he has a huge amount of knowledge about where Christian was, what he was doing and what his motivations were for him being in particular places at specific times. 
"There are a number of leads and clues officers have on Christian that they think Helge could provide more information on.
"They genuinely do believe he can be a game-changer in their investigation into Christian B."
Portuguese Police however are less sure. 
Sun Online understands that officers in the Algarve resort where Maddie went missing think German cops are "running down dark alleys".
A source said: "They seem to think he holds all the cards, but Portuguese detectives regard him more like a crank and a joker.
"A lot of what the German officers are doing is basically going back through old leads and down dark alleys."
Sniffer dogs and radar were used during the three-day search last month of Arade Dam reservoir.
The prime suspect, German national Christian B, referred to the remote Algarve spot as his "little paradise".
According to German tabloid Bild, however, detectives are likely to say that the evidence they need to nail B is not there.
Last week we told how the prime suspect in Madeleine's disappearance boasted about being a "master criminal", a leading witness revealed.
Christian B is also alleged to have bragged about how he could outwit cops – telling pals it was easier to get away with crimes in Portugal than in Germany.
Helge ­B is understood to have told police of Christian B's gloats amid a fresh probe into the convicted sex offender.
Helge B met Christian B a year before Maddie vanished aged three and was the person who identified Christian B to cops in connection with her disappearance.
A source in Portugal, who is close to the investigation, told The Sun: "Helge B has spoken at length to officers about the time he spent with Christian B, where they were carrying out crimes together side by side.
"He told them how Christian B often boasted of being really, really good at what he did, a master criminal and how the police were useless.
"He was particularly disparaging about Portuguese officers saying it was much easier to get away with stuff in Portugal than in Germany."
It comes after The Sun on Sunday revealed how Helge B claimed Christian B had a burglary tool kit that could unlock any security door.
He boasted about the tools, which raise fresh doubts over the official theory that ­Maddie’s kidnapper clambered in through a window of holiday apartment 5a in Praia da Luz.
German police are said to be "electrified" by the lock pick kit discovery — and are also probing the possibility Christian B used car paint solvent to sedate Maddie.
German prosecutors hope to use the lock picks evidence to nail Christian B, who is in jail for drugs crimes and appealing a seven-year sentence for raping a woman of 72.
Helge B said he found the kit at Christian B's Algarve home.
The petty criminal had decided to ransack it with friend Manfred Seyferth after learning Christian B was serving time for theft.
Helge B, who kept the kit and told German police about it, added: "You can use it to pick any lock, including security locks."
The 14 picks, seen by The Sun on Sunday, are black stainless steel and each is designed for a ­specific door type.


Ex-pal turned police informer Helge ­B is currently assisting officers

Holes dug apparently for soil samples in the area around Barragem do Arade reservoirCredit: PA

Police prepare to search a reservoir for the body of MaddieCredit: Reuters

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23008442/madeleine-mccann-update-suspect-christian-b/

really, so hb is by now not only a little toady, but has a problem deciding if cb is his friend or foe, or an in between too.

must be the hot weather, the stories are spreading as oil in a salad. 

it is not hb, but mt, the one from austria who was the so called friend and that would not have a problem proving he indeed he 'worked' together with cb, they ended up in jail together for the diesel theft. 

never in the story it can give you the understanding hb and cb were matties. suri-dutch slang for not really mates, but more the kind of saprophytic relationship, you know like lichen has. 
mt as and has told, and all are criminals, so let's be carefull, and read everything as supposedly, maybe or maybe not, lived for a time on the little finca near praia da luz, even ms has told he stayed there at a time with his camper van. ms as told was the one who introduced cb to hb in the santa clara area. 

cb made not exactly friends with hb, because, he saw and used the niche of stealing solar panels, what was hb his speciality at that time. later on there must have been somewhere in 2007 or 2008, cb was more into drugs, the dried green stuff with thc and cbd, and hb was painted to us as a seller of larger quantities, cb made known he wanted to buy a kilo, but hb only delivered 3 quarters of that. 

that last bit sounds quite fantastic, because there is something you always do find in every drugs crime not depending on kind of quantity is a set of scales, drugs traders are also very fond of their personal set of scales, never trusting the other ones. and no scales take the stage in the stories of the toads. 

but all that must have happened before the dragonfestival of 2008. 

remember the story that scotland yard was trying to find an address of cb somewhere in portimao, and even got the satellite pictures out? it was already a very slim story, it was supposedly to find a place that cb stayed, but if that was truly a flat/apartement in portimao, or a white house, it never really was made clear. 
but that was also once a place they all had meet up. 

so we already had the santa clara meeting and the portimao one. 

lovely isn't it, the sun had seen the famous set of dino lock pickers, you know the ones that last week was electrifying the german law people-not specified, how did they do that in germany. did the hcw just say;'well my dear helge, you have kept then safe for many years, 2006, never lost them, not even in your days in jail, and not even when you was homeless and had to stay at a asylum, we could hardly keep them better, no, no, helge you keep then safe.'

so again for the sun and the moon and all other lunatic reporters, if you steal something from cb in 2006, and do not give it back, it means cb never had that stuff after it was stolen. so what the cb had done after 2006 can never had been with the use of things he already lost in 2006. 

i love the pictures i already found in the media, come on, that is the start at home beginners set, are you sure these have been existing in 2006? 

also by this story the sun is telling us, the hcw, the german cps has told porkies to sandra f. when he told to her and all her viewers, and we know because we have been part of the viewing, that helge b and manfred s. would be not his star witnesses in a madeleine case, some other cases, but not the famous one. 

there is getting some painting in the story, the little toady told us already through his affairs with bild, he was in witness protection, and it looks very much like it, he is not anymore, people in witness protection do normally have good reasons to keep hidden. as we see hb is now talking to all news outlets who are very well known for the 'we pay for our stories' genre, could it be the germans do not simply pay expenses or deliver accommodation for a guy who has no stake in their investigation anymore, so he is just filling his pockets, because hew does not want to just work for it and no longer fits in his old day and night 'jobs', because playing lady in waiting a bit to exactly. 

well if they are sharing official files to little toadies, there could be a little bit of a uproar in the future defense team of course. it could be seen as against principles of german law, if the public suspect is not even an official suspect, no charges or arrest warrant out, no trial. 
i do hope that germany has a bit lesser authority for privacy affairs, than we have, because even such common thingy could give blows in public. 

as it is written in the sun, it does not say hb is the one of the little toadies they want to show their files.

so what do we have now exactly?

hb duid confessed he stole things from cb his property. he did not steal direct things from cb, because he was in jail. we have to believe a door was even open, so it can by that not even be called a true break in, but he had no invitation to get access and he still took things without permission. cb was not there, so could not tell hb it was all his and his alone, and it must have taken place between april 8 2006 and the last day of may 2006, because on a date in between the 'land lady' and daughter cleared the place out. 

hb and others have told us the goods that had been stolen from that property never had made it back to cb.
so none of these goods can be part of a crime undertaken on a later date by cb. 

so the camera and 22 videotapes can never have pictures, like photo or video of madeleine mccann, if you want to serve an abduction of mm to cb. the dino lock pick set can not been used to open any lock by cb, so also not that of 5a by cb, because hb had then kept safe under him. 

what the sun wants us to believe is that cb is not the earlier painted ,by them and their likes, loner, but was used to just work together with the hb. yeah now i do get into understanding the advise hb got, because with this latest story hb sells himself as a cooked up goose. 
lucky for hb, we are not very fond of any abduction theory, but damn, it becomes very easy for the ones that do, to write hb in it, they are very fond of accomplices.

and by when exactly was bragging about criminal fantasies news, it is nothing more then a dog that put up a leg to a tree in passing, certainly when it smells others have done the same. 
it would be breaking news when criminals are getting fond of the police, because they are not by habit. 
and going by the listings of cb, he can not have been that successful in escaping justice. 

i do hope when ordinary not criminal people sell their story to the sun, they count the pennies they got, because it looks a bit the sun is not that good with numbers, cb was born in december 1976. so he cannot be 45.

and do portuguese have talked about dark alleys, or using the dark roads, the meaning is very different. actually there is a spot that has no dark alleys. it is in the uk. 

and when it comes to getting away with murder or abductions, if you look up cases in portugal and germany, i would choose germany if i was into escaping justice. also if it is about missing british children, portugal has many years to go , before they reach that record of germany. 16 years versus 41 years.

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