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There are rumours on another forum that K & G have split up (admin please delete this line if not appropriate) which could account for her being left fighting for one million quid on her own.Hicks wrote:Quite newintown, Mr Amaral does not look well.Newintown wrote:Well don't, think about what she and her vanished other half have done to GA and his family instead, and to Madeleine and to the twins. She and GM have brought this whole thing upon themselves through their sheer hatred of GA as he was probably very near to exposing all their lies; and their sheer greed for more and more money, if she had to face a hostile crowd, so be it. If she wins she will be £1m better off and will be laughing all the way to the bank, with ill gotten gains. She will not lose any sleep over GA, after all she didn't lose any sleep over Madeleine.Cristobell wrote:I think he said Kate's mother isn't here yet Sally.sallypelt wrote:Live on SKY News: Kate isn't here YET
Well what a bizarre report that was, I've really no idea what the point of it was. They must have done a longer interview with Isabel than that so why clip it to a few seconds of her talking about Amaral hiding his money.
Why employ a 28k a year spokesman who has naff all to say when you need him most?
Oerr, I am squirming as we watch this unfold. I almost feel sorry for Kate, but perhaps we are beginning to see the driving force behind the continued madness. No matter what we think of Kate, it has taken some guts to go out there and face what could have been a hostile crowd. If will be interesting to see if she gives an interview on the steps of the Court at the end of day?
I feel sorry for GM, he has lost so much by just trying to do his job led only by the evidence that confronted him.
I am praying that he will win this trial and those money grabbers will leave empty handed.
BTW, does anyone else think it strange that Mrs McCann's other half is not there in Portugal to hold her hand?
It is reported that GM has work commitments-really? would nobody cover for him in light of what's going on now? Also, he has to look after the twins, it has never bothered the MC'S before leaving them with others.
I would have thought that the McCanns were told some time ago about the Court dates. I can't believe that Gerry McCann has been left to look after the twins, what a feeble excuse. The twins are at school all day, no doubt with endless nannies coming and going to feed them their breakfast and dinners as probably has been the case since they were born.
Has Kate been left in the sh*t to go it alone as Gerry now has other interests to fill his life.
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Could be: they could try to claim that it's become impossible to hear criminal litigation against them unbiased. Personally, I'm not holding my breath that there will be a criminal case against them. The only thing that would matter to them would be salvaging their reputation; but that is best done in a closed court, just the final agreement or decision to be bandied about. If possible.aiyoyo wrote:Say, if they knew their chances are low, then they know bad or adverse press now will just play into their hands for future use against another trial.Portia wrote:In a case when one of either parties in litigation requests for the case to be heard behind closed doors, a/o with the media excluded, it is usual for the Court to ask for the other sides opinion on that.
If the other party also wants it heard behind closed doors, the Court will most likely order doors closed.
If the other party disagrees however, chances are there will be public hearings.
This raises the question, why the McCs would be so ill advised as to reject the cloak of deniability, both regarding their own witnesses as re Dr Amarals.
All very unusual, from a legal point of view IMO
I expect some histrionics: KH fainting on the steps of the Court a/o her ignoring/accosting/attacking Dr Amaral in full view of the public, or what have you.
Also please note that, although she will apparently not be heard as a witness -under oath!- she may very well be allowed to speak up as the injured party. Not on oath but, when in tears and rolling on the floor of the courtroom, potentially just as effective and difficult to erase from memory. Even a well balanced Judges memory. I bet we're in for a lot of nasty little surprises yet.
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Yes she did, Candyflosscandyfloss wrote:Did she actually say she would fight the request? Or did the Judge decide to allow the media and turn down Mr Amaral's request.tasprin wrote:Yes it's odd that Duarte said she would fight Amaral's request for a closed court when she knows Scotland Yard (really?) advised them to stay at home and avoid a media circus. (I think they love a good old media circus. As long as it's on their terms, they wouldn't miss it for the world)aiyoyo wrote:Say, if they knew their chances are low, then they know bad or adverse press now will just play into their hands for future use against another trial.Portia wrote:In a case when one of either parties in litigation requests for the case to be heard behind closed doors, a/o with the media excluded, it is usual for the Court to ask for the other sides opinion on that.
If the other party also wants it heard behind closed doors, the Court will most likely order doors closed.
If the other party disagrees however, chances are there will be public hearings.
This raises the question, why the McCs would be so ill advised as to reject the cloak of deniability, both regarding their own witnesses as re Dr Amarals.
All very unusual, from a legal point of view IMO
Telegraph
Isabel Duarte, lawyer for the McCanns said she would fight to get Mr Amaral's petition for a closed hearing rejected.
"He doesn't have a case," she told The Daily Telegraph outside court. "I am confident that we can win this point." (and she obviously won)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10304279/Ex-Madeleine-McCann-police-chief-seeks-to-ban-media-from-1m-libel-trial.html
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I am only on page 17 but I just had to speak.
So overwhelming was my pity for this woman that she literally has been left the last one on view.
Gerry McCann, Clarence Mitchell, evvvvverrrrrryyyyyooooone has abandoned her expect for the motley
crew who must love her very much to go through with this farce.
Ouch - Many heads should be rolling right now but hers is the only one that will get the chop.
I want Truth and Justice and yet I cannot help but experience empathy right now.
So overwhelming was my pity for this woman that she literally has been left the last one on view.
Gerry McCann, Clarence Mitchell, evvvvverrrrrryyyyyooooone has abandoned her expect for the motley
crew who must love her very much to go through with this farce.
Ouch - Many heads should be rolling right now but hers is the only one that will get the chop.
I want Truth and Justice and yet I cannot help but experience empathy right now.
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Thank you Tasprin
From Brunty......
martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt 4m
#madeleine Documentary producer Emma Loach, friend of MCcanns, said Amaral's book and TV prog based on it had "devastating" effect on them.
From Brunty......
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Brunty's gone a bit quiet, has he maybe realised that the evidence thus far is making the case worse for the McCanns..edit that, see he's just tweeted again..
Portia, weirdly enough I had a thought flash across my mind about 10 mins ago that Kate might actually physically attack Snr Amaral, she's probably unhinged enough to do that. Hopefully not though, that would be incredibly unpleasant, not just for Snr Amaral, but particularly for her remaining children
Portia, weirdly enough I had a thought flash across my mind about 10 mins ago that Kate might actually physically attack Snr Amaral, she's probably unhinged enough to do that. Hopefully not though, that would be incredibly unpleasant, not just for Snr Amaral, but particularly for her remaining children
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#madeleine Loach: "Kate realised the people she needed help from now thought Madeleine was dead and they were implicated."
martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt 2m
#madeleine Loach: book was published 3 days after Port police closed case saying no evidence of McCann involvement and "destroyed all that."
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#madeleine Loach: TV documentary later made things worse because more than 2 million people watched it.
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Documentary is supposed to make people think and that's just her interpretation of a certain scene.candyfloss wrote:martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt 2m#madeleine Hubbard: actors who played Kate and Gerry in Portuguese documentary portrayed them after M vanished as "crazy, heavy drinkers"
Ye Gawk, she must have left her brain in the freezer at home.
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What about the document Loach made which contained blatant lies/inaccuracies about the Smiths' sighting?
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Loach is the documentary-maker for the Mccanns' side isn't it? Did her version not have any audience?candyfloss wrote:martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt 1m#madeleine Loach: TV documentary later made things worse because more than 2 million people watched it.
Isnt that the whole point of a documentary?
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#madeleine Loach: "Kate realised the people she needed help from now thought Madeleine was dead and they were implicated."
any idea who k needed help from,blimey the genral public swelled their coffers to a tidy sum,she had enough money to hire the BEST P I,s to find Madeleine
so who else was she expecting help from
any idea who k needed help from,blimey the genral public swelled their coffers to a tidy sum,she had enough money to hire the BEST P I,s to find Madeleine
so who else was she expecting help from
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I really hope Amaral's lawyer is on the ball and call these witnesses out.
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What an ill-advised assertion!tasprin wrote:Yes she did, Candyflosscandyfloss wrote:Did she actually say she would fight the request? Or did the Judge decide to allow the media and turn down Mr Amaral's request.tasprin wrote:Yes it's odd that Duarte said she would fight Amaral's request for a closed court when she knows Scotland Yard (really?) advised them to stay at home and avoid a media circus. (I think they love a good old media circus. As long as it's on their terms, they wouldn't miss it for the world)aiyoyo wrote:Say, if they knew their chances are low, then they know bad or adverse press now will just play into their hands for future use against another trial.Portia wrote:In a case when one of either parties in litigation requests for the case to be heard behind closed doors, a/o with the media excluded, it is usual for the Court to ask for the other sides opinion on that.
If the other party also wants it heard behind closed doors, the Court will most likely order doors closed.
If the other party disagrees however, chances are there will be public hearings.
This raises the question, why the McCs would be so ill advised as to reject the cloak of deniability, both regarding their own witnesses as re Dr Amarals.
All very unusual, from a legal point of view IMO
Telegraph
Isabel Duarte, lawyer for the McCanns said she would fight to get Mr Amaral's petition for a closed hearing rejected.
"He doesn't have a case," she told The Daily Telegraph outside court. "I am confident that we can win this point."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10304279/Ex-Madeleine-McCann-police-chief-seeks-to-ban-media-from-1m-libel-trial.html
Dr Amaral after all only sought to guard Madeleines privacy/interests by advocating not having all witness material unchecked exposed to all and sundry. He's a doctor of Law, very well placed to judge what would have been in a living Maddies best interests.
How very very odd for mistress Isabel then, to state that you are confident of 'winning' the full publicity for potentially negative information about a living child and on your fragile client.
Negative? Look no further: as witnessed by the bevy of own goals from mother Hubbard on day One
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IF this is the quality of Kate's witnesses to support all her claims in the charges.....my goodness...wait till Amaral's heavy weight ones come on.candyfloss wrote:martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt 1m#madeleine Loach: TV documentary later made things worse because more than 2 million people watched it.
Where's Marinho Pinto and Marcos - at the one point they were rumoured to be witnesses for the mccanns. Wonder what happened?
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She is saying she's confident to win only*one* point - being that of rejecting closed door trial.Portia wrote:What an ill-advised assertion!tasprin wrote:Yes she did, Candyflosscandyfloss wrote:Did she actually say she would fight the request? Or did the Judge decide to allow the media and turn down Mr Amaral's request.tasprin wrote:Yes it's odd that Duarte said she would fight Amaral's request for a closed court when she knows Scotland Yard (really?) advised them to stay at home and avoid a media circus. (I think they love a good old media circus. As long as it's on their terms, they wouldn't miss it for the world)aiyoyo wrote:Say, if they knew their chances are low, then they know bad or adverse press now will just play into their hands for future use against another trial.Portia wrote:In a case when one of either parties in litigation requests for the case to be heard behind closed doors, a/o with the media excluded, it is usual for the Court to ask for the other sides opinion on that.
If the other party also wants it heard behind closed doors, the Court will most likely order doors closed.
If the other party disagrees however, chances are there will be public hearings.
This raises the question, why the McCs would be so ill advised as to reject the cloak of deniability, both regarding their own witnesses as re Dr Amarals.
All very unusual, from a legal point of view IMO
Telegraph
Isabel Duarte, lawyer for the McCanns said she would fight to get Mr Amaral's petition for a closed hearing rejected.
"He doesn't have a case," she told The Daily Telegraph outside court. "I am confident that we can win this point."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10304279/Ex-Madeleine-McCann-police-chief-seeks-to-ban-media-from-1m-libel-trial.html
Dr Amaral after all only sought to guard Madeleines privacy/interests by advocating not having all witness material unchecked exposed to all and sundry. He's a doctor of Law, very well placed to judge what would have been in a living Maddies best interests.
How very very odd for mistress Isabel then, to state that you are confident of 'winning' the full publicity for potentially negative information about a living child and on your fragile client.
Negative? Look no further: as witnessed by the bevy of own goals from mother Hubbard on day One
There must be a madness in that strategy. It makes no sense for the Mccanns to court such publicity.
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Is there a possibility the McCanns' witnesses weren't cross-examined or is Brunty being devious by only reporting one side of the story?
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I wouldn't trust brunty,he,s a McCann fanShuBob wrote:Is there a possibility the McCanns' witnesses weren't cross-examined or is Brunty being devious by only reporting one side of the story?
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Come on GA lawyer : Emma Loach directed a documentary without facts, altering the Smith sighting to show a child carried across a man's arms just as in JT sighting, when Mr Smith unequivocally said that the child was carried vertically, head resting on man's shoulder.
Bloody hell.....you could not make this up.
Bloody hell.....you could not make this up.
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Isn't it very sad that there's hardly any UK journalist one can trust with the truth?tiny wrote:I wouldn't trust brunty,he,s a McCann fanShuBob wrote:Is there a possibility the McCanns' witnesses weren't cross-examined or is Brunty being devious by only reporting one side of the story?
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I am praying Amaral's lawyer is on the ball. The evidence from the McCanns' witnesses so far is literally begging to be taken apart.russiandoll wrote:Come on GA lawyer : Emma Loach directed a documentary without facts, altering the Smith sighting to show a child carried across a man's arms just as in JT sighting, when Mr Smith unequivocally said that the child was carried vertically, head resting on man's shoulder.
Bloody hell.....you could not make this up.
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Brunty should have stated that they weren`t cross examined if that`s the case. Surely they should have been cross examined by the respondent`s lawyer while they were in the box under oath. But not sure how these courts work.ShuBob wrote:Is there a possibility the McCanns' witnesses weren't cross-examined or is Brunty being devious by only reporting one side of the story?
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yes it is sad,i was hoping we would have someone else tweeting rather than bruntyShuBob wrote:Isn't it very sad that there's hardly any UK journalist one can trust with the truth?tiny wrote:I wouldn't trust brunty,he,s a McCann fanShuBob wrote:Is there a possibility the McCanns' witnesses weren't cross-examined or is Brunty being devious by only reporting one side of the story?
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YES VERY VERY SAD - I`m so ashamed of my own country these days.ShuBob wrote:Isn't it very sad that there's hardly any UK journalist one can trust with the truth?tiny wrote:I wouldn't trust brunty,he,s a McCann fanShuBob wrote:Is there a possibility the McCanns' witnesses weren't cross-examined or is Brunty being devious by only reporting one side of the story?
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IMO we're rarely told the truth about anythingWoofer wrote:YES VERY VERY SAD - I`m so ashamed of my own country these days.ShuBob wrote:Isn't it very sad that there's hardly any UK journalist one can trust with the truth?tiny wrote:I wouldn't trust brunty,he,s a McCann fanShuBob wrote:Is there a possibility the McCanns' witnesses weren't cross-examined or is Brunty being devious by only reporting one side of the story?
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