Madeleine: The Last Hope? - Panorama UPDATED 7.30 25th April (only certain areas) and 8.30 pm Mon 30th April 2012

sherlock wrote:

candyfloss wrote:
I think they are hoping Portugal will re-open the case and dump it on them.

I agree, my reading of events if you push away all the "spin", "hype" and lazy reporting of today is that what TM have feared, dreaded and had no desire to happen is just about to - the case is going to be reopened and all those questions they've done so well to avoid and side step are going to re-surface and be asked of them again.

Woofer wrote:

Ribisl wrote:BBC website

Having analysed the evidence, the Met said it is possible Madeleine is alive, and they believe she was abducted.

Yes, but ........... have they analysed ALL the evidence - I doubt it. Have they looked at the Mcs bank account, credit card details, phone calls, medical records and any other relevant records. If they haven`t, they can hardly say they`ve analysed all the evidence.

candyfloss wrote:

Woofer wrote:

Ribisl wrote:BBC website

Having analysed the evidence, the Met said it is possible Madeleine is alive, and they believe she was abducted.

Yes, but ........... have they analysed ALL the evidence - I doubt it. Have they looked at the Mcs bank account, credit card details, phone calls, medical records and any other relevant records. If they haven`t, they can hardly say they`ve analysed all the evidence.

No, Redwood says in the interview they are only a quarter of the way through, so still 75% to go! So how they can be giving statements at this early stage is rather strange. They say they have evidence she may be alive, how can that be, they either know she is or they don't.

Ribisl wrote:BBC website

Having analysed the evidence, the Met said it is possible Madeleine is alive, and they believe she was abducted.

For the Met said read the TM said

I am becoming less and less optimistic about the whole 'review'. Of course it's possible she is alive because nobody has so far discovered her body. But unless they have uncovered some new evidence PJ didn't have, how can they possibly give more credence to abduction?

aiyoyo wrote:

Ribisl wrote:BBC website

Having analysed the evidence, the Met said it is possible Madeleine is alive, and they believe she was abducted.

For the Met said read the TM said

I am becoming less and less optimistic about the whole 'review'. Of course it's possible she is alive because nobody has so far discovered her body. But unless they have uncovered some new evidence PJ didn't have, how can they possibly give more credence to abduction?

Why is it breaking News ? What news is new? Have the UK side ever said she is dead?

PeterMac wrote:

tiny wrote:WHITEWASH

Or possibly

aiyoyo wrote:

PeterMac wrote:

tiny wrote:WHITEWASH

Or possibly

Yeap, definitely preparing the ground, because he hasn't said anything new that people don't already know.
He's luring them back to PT to do the reconstruction?

He said only 25% of the files is covered with every page scrutinized and analyzed meaning 75% left to go, yet he's already saying "sadly she could be dead", and on the same breath also said "there are 195 possible leads and she could be alive".

In effect he hasn't told people anything at all, if not alive means dead, what else is left? half dead and half alive?

If this is only 1st quarterly report, what will he say by the 4th quarter? Dogs evidence should be in the 2nd quarter.

candyfloss wrote:From the Independant.........

Mr Redwood said "evidence that she is alive stems from the forensic view of the timeline" that there was the opportunity for her to be taken.

Investigations show "there do appear to be gaps", he added.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/reopen-madeleine-mccann-case-police-urge-7677973.html



What in that 4/5 minutes?? So this is the evidence she could still be alive?? Doh.

Panorama tonight to claim that News International pressured David Cameron into new Maddy McCann inquiry, quoting No10 insiders

Woofer wrote:

candyfloss wrote:

Woofer wrote:

Ribisl wrote:BBC website

Having analysed the evidence, the Met said it is possible Madeleine is alive, and they believe she was abducted.

Yes, but ........... have they analysed ALL the evidence - I doubt it. Have they looked at the Mcs bank account, credit card details, phone calls, medical records and any other relevant records. If they haven`t, they can hardly say they`ve analysed all the evidence.

No, Redwood says in the interview they are only a quarter of the way through, so still 75% to go! So how they can be giving statements at this early stage is rather strange. They say they have evidence she may be alive, how can that be, they either know she is or they don't.

As it is only a review at the moment I doubt SY would be able to look at bank accounts, credit card details, until the case was officially opened as an ongoing Police operation again. They are obviously looking into every detail to make sure they have enough substance to open the case again so all these things can be looked into.

As for saying they believe Madeleine McCann was abducted, maybe it's their way of keeping the investigation ongoing, as if they said she's probably dead it would be harder for them to investigate if they haven't got a body and would be easy to say she was killed by "person or persons unknown", if that makes sense.



Yes, it is strange and not looking good. It`s plain to see they are making statements without having ALL the evidence. Probably its only the PJ (with a judge`s warrant) that can even apply for medical records, bank details etc., so they certainly have not got all the evidence or all the pieces of the jigsaw and should not be saying so.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1167563--missing-girl-madeleine-mccann-could-still-be-alive-police

Missing girl Madeleine McCann could still be alive: police
LONDON—British police on Wednesday asked Portugal to reopen the case of missing girl Madeleine McCann, saying that as the fifth anniversary of her disappearance approaches there is a possibility she is still alive.

Police also released a new image of what McCann would likely look like today, expressing hope that she would be found even years after the then-3-year-old vanished on May 3 while on a trip to Portugal with her family.

The case sparked global interest because of heartbreaking images of the girl beamed around the world and, in part, because her parents were briefly considered suspects before they were cleared.

In a rare press conference on the case, Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said he is leading a team of 37 police officers reviewing some 40,000 pieces of evidence gathered so far. The team has identified some 195 possible leads to be followed up on, he said.

Redwood said forensic evidence of the sequence of events around her disappearance shows there are moments when she could have been snatched by criminals. He said he had an “open mind” on who could have abducted her, but asked for the help of Portuguese authorities, who closed the case in 2008.

“We would like the case to be reopened; our case is clear,” Redwood told reporters Wednesday. “I should stress quite clearly that the decision is in Portugal.”

He acknowledged that police have to consider that McCann may be dead despite hopes that she is alive.

“Our drive on both scenarios is of equal measure,” he said, choosing his words carefully.

There has been no reliable indication of what might have happened to the girl despite numerous reported sightings from around the world.

Redwood said he has made seven visits to Portugal and is working closely with Portuguese police officers. He has had regular contact with the missing girl’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, who have pressed to keep the case in the public eye, publishing a book and appearing on the “Oprah Winfrey Show.”

Police said the investigation has cost about 2 million pounds ($3.2 million) so far.

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said he believed her disappearance was a stranger abduction, as he said there were 195 “investigative opportunities”.

candyfloss wrote:

tuom wrote:

russiandoll wrote:You beat me to it Candyfloss.
now it changes from there might be something in the jigsaw....
to there IS evidence....

Would it be possible to set up a thread here , a sort of live commentry for those of you who will see the programme tomorrow night to benefit those who will not see it until next week ? Patience was never my strong point !!!!

Yes, will definitely do that tuom

candyfloss wrote:Another interview with Andy Redwood

We are satisfied that this is a criminal act , a stranger who has taken MM from her apartment (words to that effect)



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tuom wrote:

candyfloss wrote:

tuom wrote:

russiandoll wrote:You beat me to it Candyfloss.
now it changes from there might be something in the jigsaw....
to there IS evidence....

Would it be possible to set up a thread here , a sort of live commentry for those of you who will see the programme tomorrow night to benefit those who will not see it until next week ? Patience was never my strong point !!!!

Yes, will definitely do that tuom

Just for information for Irish members BBC1 NI is showing the programme tonight