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sijm wrote:Oh dear!

Sorry about last double post, should never post after having worked hard all dayTwitter/Breaking News updates - Page 8 655851

Apologies for going off topic but, for those who don't know, posts can be edited within maybe half an hour of being submitted. So duplicate entries can be removed and any typos corrected.

By the way, I can't see the relevance of a particular newspaper photo of Madeleine with no eye defect. There have been so many photos issued, some with it, some without and some of different children!
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Jean wrote:
sijm wrote:Oh dear!

Sorry about last double post, should never post after having worked hard all dayTwitter/Breaking News updates - Page 8 655851

Apologies for going off topic but, for those who don't know, posts can be edited within maybe half an hour of being submitted. So duplicate entries can be removed and any typos corrected.

By the way, I can't see the relevance of a particular newspaper photo of Madeleine with no eye defect. There have been so many photos issued, some with it, some without and some of different children!

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@benfenton Silva not struggling - McCanns agreed to photos. They also agreed to pose for pix with their other children in Portugal #Leveson

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11.28am: Silva says that most pictures used of the McCanns were from outside agencies, rather than Daily Mail photographers.

He adds all of the photographs used would have been approved by the McCanns' press officer, Clarence Mitchell.


He admits the paper used unblurred pictures of the McCanns' children. "This was a unique situation … where we'd been allowed to stand in a certain position … and take pictures of the children," he says.

Silva says he understands the point that using the pictures was against the Mail's general policy.

Jays asks whether he should not have used the pictures.

"In hindsight, possibly … but there was no objection raised at the time," he adds.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jan/11/leveson-inquiry-peter-wright-live




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Something is going to blow soon bomb



Ex-Met officer demands key Leveson probe role

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11 Jan 2012



A former Scotland Yard officer arrested over allegations of unauthorised leaks to a journalist has asked to play a key role in the judicial inquiry into press standards.

Ex-detective chief superintendent Dave Cook yesterday requested core participant status, which means he is able to cross-examine witnesses who appear before Lord Justice Leveson.

Mr Cook, 52, who returned to work as an investigator for the Serious Organised Crime Agency this week after six months off sick, is understood to have encountered "obscene corruption" while at the Met. A source close to the inquiry claimed he is due to give evidence to Leveson and could reveal the full scale of alleged wrongdoing he encountered at the force.

Mr Cook was questioned yesterday on suspicion of misconduct in a public office and bailed. The Independent Police Complaints Commission had been passed information by Met detectives from Operation Elveden, investigating alleged payments to police officers by newspapers.

In 2002, Mr Cook led a Met investigation into the axe murder of private eye Daniel Morgan in Sydenham 25 years ago. Main suspects included Met officers and private investigators who also worked for the News of the World. The investigation collapsed last year amid criticism of police evidence.

Soon after Mr Cook made a fresh appeal about the case on Crimewatch in June 2002, he discovered he was under surveillance by men working for the defunct Sunday tabloid.

Mr Cook, whose phone was hacked by the NoW, challenged then editor Rebekah Brooks in December 2002. She admitted the paper had been following him but claimed it was investigating whether he was having an affair with Crimewatch presenter Jacqui Hames. However, it was well-known the pair were married.

Today, a friend said of the leak allegations: "I believe this arrest is a measure to quieten him down ahead of his involvement in the Leveson inquiry. He knows where all the bodies are buried. This is an attempt to blacken his name."


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24026779-former-yard-detective-arrested-over-leaks-to-journalist.do
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Ex-Met officer demands key Leveson probe role

Tom Harper
11 Jan 2012



A former Scotland Yard officer arrested over allegations of unauthorised leaks to a journalist has asked to play a key role in the judicial inquiry into press standards.

Ex-detective chief superintendent Dave Cook yesterday requested core participant status, which means he is able to cross-examine witnesses who appear before Lord Justice Leveson.

Mr Cook, 52, who returned to work as an investigator for the Serious Organised Crime Agency this week after six months off sick, is understood to have encountered "obscene corruption" while at the Met. A source close to the inquiry claimed he is due to give evidence to Leveson and could reveal the full scale of alleged wrongdoing he encountered at the force.

Mr Cook was questioned yesterday on suspicion of misconduct in a public office and bailed. The Independent Police Complaints Commission had been passed information by Met detectives from Operation Elveden, investigating alleged payments to police officers by newspapers.

In 2002, Mr Cook led a Met investigation into the axe murder of private eye Daniel Morgan in Sydenham 25 years ago. Main suspects included Met officers and private investigators who also worked for the News of the World. The investigation collapsed last year amid criticism of police evidence.

Soon after Mr Cook made a fresh appeal about the case on Crimewatch in June 2002, he discovered he was under surveillance by men working for the defunct Sunday tabloid.

Mr Cook, whose phone was hacked by the NoW, challenged then editor Rebekah Brooks in December 2002. She admitted the paper had been following him but claimed it was investigating whether he was having an affair with Crimewatch presenter Jacqui Hames. However, it was well-known the pair were married.

Today, a friend said of the leak allegations: "I believe this arrest is a measure to quieten him down ahead of his involvement in the Leveson inquiry. He knows where all the bodies are buried. This is an attempt to blacken his name."


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24026779-former-yard-detective-arrested-over-leaks-to-journalist.do

There are similarities to Amaral....Efforts to blacken his name when he is to give evidence in good faith to show the truth

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Richard Desmond leads Express/Star team at #leveson Will be asked why not in PCC and why fixated on Madeleine McCann #Desmond will be last

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Daily Express and Daily Star owner Richard Desmond to give evidence to #Leveson Inquiry. Follow #BBC's @rosschawkins http://bbc.in/y1QbTS

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Whittow: PCC should have reined in press over McCanns. 'Nobody was intervening so the story went on and on and on.' #Leveson #hacking

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@JBLittlemore Yes, unsettling to see a UK judge apparently toing the McCanns' line so overtly. Does not bode well. #McCann #Leveson

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Whittow supports decision to withdraw paper from PCC. Says nobody from PCC was intervening on the McCanns story. They should have. #Leveson

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Post by Guest 12.01.12 12:50

This made me titter titter - or should I say twitter titter

YG_MitchellY.G. Mitchell

are witnesses at #Leveson being called in descending order of intelligence?

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No wonder we are still waiting for certain people big grin
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Post by Cheshire Cat 12.01.12 13:47

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Written by someone who worked with David Cook.
By Kevin Morris | 11/01/2012 - 17:28 | In The News

Sometimes we meet people in our lives who impress us immediately with their personality, their honesty and their integrity. Many former colleagues happily fell into that category. Others are just s***s and you know that about as quickly. I don’t remember getting it badly wrong. It therefore came as a BIG surprise to find that the ex-police officer arrested by the IPCC is one of our former colleagues. (Met then Surrey then Met again.) I have to say I don’t think my very positive opinion of him is wrong. What makes me very concerned is he was arrested after he offered to testify. See for yourself.

By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, January 11, 2:57 PM

LONDON — A person familiar with the situation says a former British police detective was arrested the same day he offered to testify about police corruption linked to Britain’s phone hacking scandal.

David Cook was arrested at his home outside London on Tuesday and questioned at a police station. He had offered to speak before the U.K. inquiry on media ethics.

The source spoke Wednesday on condition of anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to speak publicly on Cook’s behalf.

Britain’s police watchdog said there was no link between the arrest and Cook’s offer to testify. A media inquiry spokesman declined to comment.

Cook unsuccessfully re-investigated a notorious 1987 murder amid allegations that police corruption had sabotaged the probe.

When people in power and close to News International are invited to see detectives it is even more concerning that David was arrested at his home. No courtesy there then for an experienced detective with numerous commendations.

More reading makes me even more uncomfortable. Whilst investigating this murder David was subject to intrusive surveillance by NoTW (NI) journalists and Mulclaire working for NI. He was followed taking one of his children to nursery and it was found the vans following him were leased by the NoTW – the Met did nothing. His personal details were obtained by Mulclaire including addresses and mobile phone numbers and even payroll details. It is understood that no arrests or charges were made relating to that.

The tabloid allegedly claimed that it was investigating whether or not Dave Cook was having an affair with Jacqui Hames, a co-presenter on Crimewatch, to whom he was actually married at the time. All this whilst Dave was investigating the murder of Mr Morgan was the subject of a long-running and complex investigation.

Thousands of lines of inquiry were pursued and over three quarters of a million documents examined.

No-one was brought to justice despite five police inquiries and three years of legal hearings, estimated to have cost around £30 million.

Five people were arrested in 2008 but two, including a former detective accused of perverting justice, were discharged after a string of supergrasses were discredited.

In March this year, Detective Chief Superintendent Hamish Campbell, a senior Scotland Yard detective, apologised to Mr Morgan’s family after the Crown Prosecution Service dropped the case against the remaining three suspects, admitting that police corruption was a “debilitating factor”.

Now go back to the headline. If Dave Cook is corrupt I will eat my hat. If he is, like anyone else he should be punished. It does not make sense to me. It simply strikes me that the Met, in handing it to the IPCC found it too hot to handle given Davids intention of lifting the lid on corruption. If David, having gone through all he has at the hands of the press has spoken to a reporter he trusts, and there can’t be many he does trust, then he did so because he probably has no faith in his former colleagues in the Met.

I know I am an ex-cop and I do not wish to think badly of former colleagues and sadly some have let us down. I can’t help thinking that this will run on and on and the public will lose faith with policing especially the Met.

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  1. Twitter/Breaking News updates - Page 8 4c09272e6a79fe081c2fa85a5dc30236?s=40&d=identicon&r=GDick Grundy says:
    11/01/2012 at 18:40

    Kevin, I can only but agree with your sentiments. He was an upfront and to me, honest policeman and after what he had to put up from the press this whole thing stinks.


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  2. Twitter/Breaking News updates - Page 8 7a3b6a4e817e1f8d0629d1e358bd4783?s=40&d=identicon&r=Gsurreywebmaster says:
    11/01/2012 at 19:38

    Bizarre in the extreme. This explains the post I put up at -- Former Scotland Yard officer arrested as part of press leaks investigation.

    Whilst you have briefly mentioned it Kevin, here is fuller excerpt from a report in the Guardian back in July 2011 which is enlightening to say the least:-

    A Guardian investigation suggests that surveillance of Detective Chief Superintendent David Cook involved the News of the World physically following him and his young children, “blagging” his personal details from police databases, attempting to access his voicemail and that of his wife, and possibly sending a “Trojan horse” email in an attempt to steal information from his computer.

    The targeting of Cook began following his appearance on BBC Crimewatch on 26 June 2002, when he appealed for information to solve the murder of Morgan, who had been found dead in south London 15 years earlier. Rees and Fillery were among the suspects. The following day, Cook was warned by the Yard that they had picked up intelligence that Fillery had been in touch with Marunchak and that Marunchak agreed to “sort Cook out”.

    A few days later, Cook was contacted by Surrey police, where he had worked as a senior detective from 1996 to 2001, and was told that somebody claiming to work for the Inland Revenue had contacted their finance department, asking for Cook’s home address so that they could send him a cheque with a tax refund. The finance department had been suspicious and refused to give out the information.

    It is now known that at that time, the News of the World’s investigator, Glenn Mulcaire, succeeded in obtaining Cook’s home address, his internal payroll number at the Metropolitan police, his date of birth and figures for the amount that he and his wife were paying for their mortgage. All of this appears to have been blagged by Mulcaire from confidential databases, apparently including the Met’s own records.

    Mulcaire obtained the mobile phone number for Cook’s wife and the password she used for her mobile phone account.

    Paperwork in the possession of the Yard’s Operation Weeting is believed to show that Mulcaire did this on the instructions of Greg Miskiw, the paper’s assistant editor and a close friend of Marunchak.

    About a week later, a van was seen parked outside Cook’s home. The following day, two vans were seen there. Both of them attempted to follow Cook as he took his two-year-old son to nursery. Cook alerted Scotland Yard, who sent a uniformed officer to stop one of the vans on the grounds that its rear brake light was broken. The driver proved to be a photojournalist working for the News of the World. Both vans were leased to the paper. During the same week, there were signs of an attempt to open letters which had been left in Cook’s external postbox.

    Scotland Yard chose not to mount a formal inquiry. Instead a senior press officer contacted Brooks to ask for an explanation. She is understood to have told them they were investigating a report that Cook was having an affair with another officer, Jacqui Hames, the presenter of BBC Crimewatch. Yard sources say they rejected this explanation, because Cook had been married to Hames for some years; the couple had two children, then aged two and five; and they had previously appeared together as a married couple in published stories.”The story was complete rubbish,” according to one source.

    For four months, the Yard took no action, raising questions about whether they were willing to pursue what appeared to be an attempt to interfere with a murder inquiry. However, in November 2002, at a press social event at Scotland Yard, Brooks was asked to come into a side room for a meeting. She was confronted by Cook, his boss, Commander Andre Baker, and Dick Fedorcio, the head of media relations. According to a Yard source, Cook described the surveillance on his home and the apparent involvement of Marunchak, and evidence of Marunchak’s suspect financial relationship with Rees. Brooks is said to have defended Marunchak on the grounds that he did his job well.

    Scotland Yard took no further action, apparently reflecting the desire of Fedorcio, who has had a close working relationship with Brooks, to avoid unnecessary friction with the News of the World. In March Marunchak was named by BBC Panorama as the News of the World executive who hired a specialist to plant a Trojan on the computer of a former British intelligence officer, Ian Hurst.

    Rees and Fillery were eventually arrested and charged in relation to the murder of Morgan. Charges against both men were later dropped, although Rees was convicted of plotting to plant cocaine on a woman so that her ex-husband would get custody of their children, and Fillery was convicted of possessing indecent images of children.

    Cook and his wife are believed to be preparing a legal action against the News of the World, Marunchak, Miskiw and Mulcaire. Operation Weeting is also understood to be investigating.


    Similar reports appeared the same month in several daily papers including this version in the Telegraph

    And read this post from the brother of the murdered man -- My brother Daniel


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  3. Twitter/Breaking News updates - Page 8 4c09272e6a79fe081c2fa85a5dc30236?s=40&d=identicon&r=GDick Grundy says:
    11/01/2012 at 19:59

    Makes you wonder whether or not Weeting and/or the IPCC have been compromised in some way.


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    • Twitter/Breaking News updates - Page 8 4e78cd2ab053fe9862ce1f4325a239fa?s=40&d=identicon&r=GKevin Morris says:
      11/01/2012 at 22:09

      It does indeed and “stink” is about the politest thing I could say!


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  • Twitter/Breaking News updates - Page 8 B4441650164564b8ee412a9aa02543f1?s=40&d=identicon&r=GLoki says:
    12/01/2012 at 11:18

    Just so I understand this. The persons actually suspected of being involved in paying officers, interfering with phones etc are “invited in for interview” at a time and nick of choice whilst someone who was one of their victims AND offering to assist is arrested at H/A and undergoes the full custody treatment?

    Hmmmmmmmmmm? Doesn’t sound that fair or unbiased.


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    Post by jd 17.01.12 23:55

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    Please do not believe those spreading rumors I am backing out of going to Portugal next month. I will be there and I will search. #McCann


    @Cerebralis
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    JATYK common sense 'Cabrita advised Amaral to settle for about half of what was being asked' So #mccann tried to settle out of court then!

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    Why are the #McCann s complaining their fund is low on money? They now have the best investigators in the world for free! #stopaskingforcash

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    The #McCann s should not need much money now, especially since Scotland Yard is (mis)using the taxpayer's money to follow up on 8 new leads!

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    Post by Spaniel 26.01.12 9:09

    Rebekah Brooks becomes a mother. See Bell Pottinger acting as her PR.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2091986/Former-NI-boss-Rebekah-Brooks-centre-hacking-scandal-mother-surrogate-gives-birth-baby-girl.html
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    Post by Liz Eagles 26.01.12 9:18

    I haven't read the article. I just looked at the photograph. I have a little problem that perhaps can be resolved. It's a bee in my bonnet if you like. So help me out here all the mums on this forum. When you pick up a baby which side of your body do you hold it to? Regardless of whether we are right or left handed, a mother IMO holds a baby in her left arm (the one nearest her heart). I have seen so many photographs of celebs recently who hold their babies in their right arm (perhaps that's for photo-shoot reasons who knows) but it doesn't seem natural to me. Tell me if it's just me with these thoughts.
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    Post by Lady-Heather 26.01.12 13:02

    aquila wrote:I haven't read the article. I just looked at the photograph. I have a little problem that perhaps can be resolved. It's a bee in my bonnet if you like. So help me out here all the mums on this forum. When you pick up a baby which side of your body do you hold it to? Regardless of whether we are right or left handed, a mother IMO holds a baby in her left arm (the one nearest her heart). I have seen so many photographs of celebs recently who hold their babies in their right arm (perhaps that's for photo-shoot reasons who knows) but it doesn't seem natural to me. Tell me if it's just me with these thoughts.

    My mother-in-law had a bee in her bonnet about this too. I held mine in my right arm, I think because I felt more stable that way. She insisted it was wrong :-D
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    Post by Guest 26.01.12 15:32

    Off topic, but interesting question.. I am lefthanded, and have always carried my babies on my right arm. It made me feel more secure i guess to have my more agile arm free to protect/hold onto something in case i fell, and to pick up stuff/do stuff for the baby. Your heart is practically in the middle of your chest anyway..
    I also read it has to do with which eye is dominant for viewing up close.
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    Post by mexx 26.01.12 17:00

    Left-handed and held baby in right arm. It's the logical thing to do, so that your left hand is free to give bottles, etc.
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    Post by Liz Eagles 27.01.12 2:49

    Thank you for for the posts and taking the bee out of my bonnet (I am very grateful for that). I too am left handed. So, enough of my question and back to the article. Sorry for the interruption.
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    skymartinbruntmartinbrunt

    #policebribes Twelve suspects now been arrested over police bribes allegations which stem from NOW phone hacking investigation

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    skymartinbruntmartinbrunt

    #policebribes Scot Yard getting sensitive. Insist arrests not attempt to force hacks to reveal sources on legitimate stories

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    skymartinbruntmartinbrunt

    #policebribes One man, 29, is a police officer, three others arrested thought to be journalists. Cops searching News International offices

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    Four men arrested by Scot Yard in police/journalist bribes investigation

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    Post by Guest 31.01.12 13:07

    Leveson Inquiry - Sir Christopher Meyer


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    If McCanns don't want intervention, "you can't do it. It is as simple as that, Mr Jay...You must respect complainants' wishes." #leveson
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    rosschawkinsRoss Hawkins

    Meyer at #leveson : treatment of McCanns was abominable but doesn't need big inquiry or systematic review to see it

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    Meyer at #leveson : did say Gerry McCann was right to sue Express titles, didn't advise him to sue, said this on #R4PM interview

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    Don't think I've seen a more combative (some would say arrogant) witness than the former PCC Chair, Sir Chirstopher Meyer #Leveson

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    Post by Guest 31.01.12 13:10

    hackinginquiryHacked off

    Meyer: we made particular efforts with the McCanns to make ourselves available #leveson

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    Post by Gillyspot 31.01.12 18:10

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    Meyer said to G McCann: "If you want damages, if it comes to that, we do not do money, the courts do money, so you'll have to make a choice"

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    Edmondson evidence on McCann diary contradicts that given to #Leveson by editor Colin Myler.

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    carricknowDawn M

    So who's lying then re #mccann diary? Myler or Edmondson? #Leveson

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    [ I wonder if Myler will be recalled. Edmondson contradicted his evidence on the McCann diary. #leveson]

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    Post by Guest 09.02.12 11:44

    It's a shame we will have to wait until tomorrow for the transcript, as I would love to know what he said.
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    matt prodger‏@MattProdgerReply

    Guardian's Nick Davies of #phonehacking investigation fame says details will emerge of TV news networks engaging in practice #notw #leveson




    Ian Puddick‏@ianpuddickReply

    @afneil PSB LAW LLP #murdochs lawyers trying to get Monday's BBC #Panorama banned #publicinterest #policecorruptionhttp://goo.gl/VCNTP


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    Talk that BBC #Panorama Monday on #Murdoch will contain shocking new scandal on Newscorp involving #police, ileagal behaviour & #corruption


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    Post by Guest 26.03.12 19:40

    Just a heads up for 2 good Panorama programmes to watch


    Tonight revelations about Murdoch and pay TV ( I presume they mean Sky) Repeated on Thursday

    And Thursday new revelations about the Derwani case.


    This week




    • Mon 26 Mar





        • 20:30 BBC One




        Murdoch's TV Pirates


        Fresh hacking allegations striking at the heart of News Corp's pay-TV empire are revealed.

        First broadcast: 26 Mar 2012

        Twitter/Breaking News updates - Page 8 B01dlvbm


    • Thu 29 Mar





        • 04:30 BBC News Channel




        Murdoch's TV Pirates


        Fresh hacking allegations striking at the heart of News Corp's pay-TV empire are revealed.

        First broadcast: 26 Mar 2012

        Twitter/Breaking News updates - Page 8 B01dlvbm


        • 21:00 BBC One




        The Honeymoon Murder


        Panorama special examining in detail the hours leading up to the death of Anni Dewani.

        First broadcast: 29 Mar 2012

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