Re: References to paedophilia in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

by polyenne 27.11.17 12:16

By no means a casual correlation but the paedophile and masonic links surrounding the case of Madeline McCann (and possibly not just surrounding it) are manifold.

by Irene 2 27.11.17 16:35

Polyenne's post reminded me of this.
From David Payne's Rogatory of the "nothing you could hide a tennis racket in" fame, does anybody know what this could be about?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
1485 "Is there anything that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth''
Reply "Err the, there are a few things but I don't think this is the right forum for bringing those up.'

1485 "Okay"

by **Tony Bennett** 27.11.17 16:52

polyenne wrote:By no means a casual correlation but the paedophile and masonic links surrounding the case of Madeline McCann (and possibly not just surrounding it) are manifold.

The number of references to paedophilia in the Madeleine McCann case was increased by one last year when it was revealed that the McCanns' friend Sir Clement Freud was a serial child sex abuser.

We will have to increase this number by one more, now that prominent McCann fund-raiser and McCann supporter Nigel Nessling from Ipswich has been convicted of possessing over 43,000 images of child sexual abuse, including 804 moving and still images in the 'most serious' Category A, which consists of images of young children being tortured and raped.

Cry, cry, weep and weep again for the poor, innocent children so cruelly abused to satisfy exceptionally perverted adult lusts

aaagh

by **sharonl** 27.11.17 20:27

Here is another McPaedo that many of us may not know about

http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/kate-and-gerry-mccann-supporter-accused.html

by skyrocket 28.11.17 8:54

I found this interview yesterday - it gives some insight into the sort of pressure dedicated and honest, lower rank officers in the police force in the UK are under when they try to investigate child abuse.

Dc John *****, amongst others, is a brave and determined man whose professional life has been destroyed because he was simply too good at his job and too principled to stand back and let children suffer.

Bullying and harassment of police officers is rife – the senior officer who feigned some concern and asked John to fill in a complaint form and then went on to say that when he received it he would throw it in the bin in the corner of his office needs a kick somewhere painful (I’d happily do the honours).

All the very best with the rest of your life John.

The final few minutes of John’s comments are crucial :–

‘Why do you think these people did this?’ (covered up/bullied)

‘Because they’re involved! There is a cover up and these people are appointed into these key positions where they have total governance of all these allegations, so they can’t be dealt with by any other unit other than these specialist units, there’s like a filter they go through and then internally in this unit they will be filtered again, what gets proceeded with and what doesn’t, so that they have total autonomy over what they deal with and what they don’t deal with. So these people are put in place to make sure these allegations don’t get out.
And it’s not just that, all them years that I worked urm in this remit we would get what they call referrals – now referrals could come through from schools, referrals could come from playgroups, from wherever. And all the years I worked on child abuse investigations I was aware of only once a referral coming through from NSPCC, only once, now bear in mind they’ve got Childline and all those kids that would be ringing up Childline specially when Jimmy Savile got nicked and everything else - why didn’t they ever come through, why didn’t they ever come through? And, these people are filters. And my opinion is they are filters that these people are deliberately put in there to protect those who are involved. Deliberately’.

By these people, I understand that John is referring to senior officers but perhaps there is also a blockage in organizations like the NSPCC.

by polyenne 28.11.17 9:07

My dear God, I suggest there are a vast number of people out there, in elevated positions, who need to take a long hard look at themselves and what they are facilitating (if they're not actually doing it themselves).

If they have children themselves, how would they feel if some of the abuse that appears to be happening on a daily basis was inflicted on their child ? Even belonging to and ascribing to the rules of Masons, Jehovah's Witnesses or any other organization that might somehow condone this abhorrent behaviour, surely doesn't override your own moral compass.......or are these people so brain-washed that they cross to the other side of the road and turn the other cheek ??

Are we breeding monsters ? I find it difficult to comprehend but then my parents only showed me unconditional love & affection the like of which I can only hope I've passed on to my own children.

by skyrocket 28.11.17 9:43

@polyenne - yes, the whole thing is quite depressing and beyond comprehension.

From experience, I am aware that only 'yes men/women' (or possibly those with secrets themselves) are promoted to positions (in many organisation) where being corrupt is part of the job spec. Weak or sick minded characters in other words. It is a club. Life is a club.

How does anything ever get put right if the only ones in a position to make change are embroiled themselves? I think the only way is for people to wake up to what is going on and once they have woken up, not to stick their heads back down under the parapet for the sake of an easier life.

The only thing any individual can do at the moment is keep their own children safe from harm and to act immediatley when they suspect any other child is coming to harm.

I was surprised the other day to find out that the police force has its very own Pagan officers Association - to support witches in the police! I can't confess to know much about paganism, but it raised my eyebrows.

Apologies if this seems OT but I think the way paedophilia seems to be dealt with by some of our police is relevant to any investigation involving a missing child. Particularly as the above whistle blowing officer was in the MET.

by **Tony Bennett** 28.11.17 11:01

skyrocket wrote:
I found this interview yesterday - it gives some insight into the sort of pressure dedicated and honest, lower rank officers in the police force in the UK are under when they try to investigate child abuse.

Dc John *****, amongst others, is a brave and determined man whose professional life has been destroyed because he was simply too good at his job and too principled to stand back and let children suffer.

Bullying and harassment of police officers is rife – the senior officer who feigned some concern and asked John to fill in a complaint form and then went on to say that when he received it he would throw it in the bin in the corner of his office needs a kick somewhere painful (I’d happily do the honours).

All the very best with the rest of your life John.

The final few minutes of John’s comments are crucial :–

‘Why do you think these people did this?’ (covered up/bullied)

‘Because they’re involved! There is a cover up and these people are appointed into these key positions where they have total governance of all these allegations, so they can’t be dealt with by any other unit other than these specialist units, there’s like a filter they go through and then internally in this unit they will be filtered again, what gets proceeded with and what doesn’t, so that they have total autonomy over what they deal with and what they don’t deal with. So these people are put in place to make sure these allegations don’t get out.
And it’s not just that, all them years that I worked urm in this remit we would get what they call referrals – now referrals could come through from schools, referrals could come from playgroups, from wherever. And all the years I worked on child abuse investigations I was aware of only once a referral coming through from NSPCC, only once, now bear in mind they’ve got Childline and all those kids that would be ringing up Childline specially when Jimmy Savile got nicked and everything else - why didn’t they ever come through, why didn’t they ever come through? And, these people are filters. And my opinion is they are filters that these people are deliberately put in there to protect those who are involved. Deliberately’.

By these people, I understand that John is referring to senior officers but perhaps there is also a blockage in organizations like the NSPCC.

Thank you for bringing this to the forum.

In my limited investigation of some cases which involve police corruption, l know that corrupt police officers, whether into child sexual abuse other forms of corruption (usually corrupt relations with major career criminals) are routinely promoted senior positions. Not in all forces. But in too many.

In the case of the death of Lee Balkwell, which I have investigated for years, the first senior copper on the scene was Inspector Richard Croft sent there by a very senior officer.

At the inquest into Lee's death, local newspapers broke this story:

Paedophile police inspector Richard Croft is jailed for five years ...

www.mirror.co.uk

› News › UK News

2 Feb 2012 - Police inspector jailed for five years for sexually abusing schoolgirl

Essex Top Cop Paedophile convicted for 6 years

www.no2abuse.com/index.php/.../essex-top-cop-paedophile-convicted-for-6-years

1 Feb 2008 - Richard Croft, 50, formerly of St Charles Road, Brentwood, subjected ... Croft, who has resigned from his job as an inspector with Essex Police ...

by Verdi 28.11.17 21:45

Madeleine McCann arrived at the Ocean Club resort, Praia da Luz with her family on Saturday 28th April 2007 and vanished sometime in the week before the family's scheduled return date of Saturday 5th May 2007.

Without delay, as soon as they were alerted, the Portuguese police commenced a thorough investigation into Madeleine's disappearance leaving no stone unturned, to coin a phrase, in accordance with standard policing protocol, contrary to UK media reportage. Following the PJ's initial diligence, they found no evidence to support the hypothesis of forced entry; stranger intrusion; burglary; abduction; abduction by paedophile or paedophile gang; abduction by child traffickers; child wandering off alone. Ostensibly Madeleine just disappeared off the face of the earth - no body, no remains, no confirmed sighting across the continents to this very day.

Why then, from the very beginning, was the Paedophile element introduced by the parents McCann and their group of friends, including David Payne.

In May 2011, Madeleine's mother, Kate McCann-Healy, published a book entitled 'madeleine'. In this book, on no fewer than 16 occasions, the author refers to the word paedophile/s..

He looked a little embarrassed and laughingly remarked to us that filming in this way made him feel like a dirty old man. It led to a conversation between the three of us about paedophiles.

We faced our biggest fear: that Madeleine had been taken by a paedophile and killed. This was the only scenario occupying our minds just then.

This initial discussion, though, was unsettling, focused as it was on the typical profile of a paedophile.

They told us, for example, about a newspaper clipping they’d seized from his house, an article entitled ‘Lock up Your Daughters’, which claimed that Casanova had been a paedophile.

The thought of Madeleine’s fear and pain tears me apart. The thought of paedophiles makes me want to rip my skin off.

I don’t mind if it’s in nice surroundings but certainly, in the case of paedophiles, away at all times from ANY contact with children.

Early on that was all I thought, all the time: that some paedophile had grabbed her, abused her and later killed her.

The second stemmed from the revulsion stirred up by my fear that Madeleine had suffered the worst fate we could imagine: falling into the hands of a paedophile.

When she was first stolen, paedophiles were all we could think about, and it made us sick, ate away at us.

The idea of a monster like this touching my daughter, stroking her, defiling her perfect little body, just killed me, over and over again. It didn’t make any difference that this might not be the explanation for Madeleine’s abduction (and, please God, it isn’t); the fact that it was a possibility was enough to prevent me from shutting it out of my mind. Tortured as I was by these nauseating images, it’s probably not surprising that even the thought of sex repulsed me.

In one case, the paedophile had put on some of the father’s aftershave in an attempt to soothe or deceive the child.

Night after night, I read of depraved individuals, British paedophiles, Portuguese paedophiles, Spanish, Dutch and German paedophiles, and of the horrific crimes they’d committed.

He warned me that a British tabloid would be running a piece the following day about a convicted paedophile called Raymond Hewlett, who had been staying in Tavira on the Algarve in May 2007.

We now knew that there had been hundreds of paedophiles on the Algarve at that time and if, God forbid, one of them had been involved, Hewlett seemed a less likely candidate than a lot of others.

The proximity of Tavira to Praia da Luz and the fact that this man was a paedophile ticked all the boxes for the redtop papers, and they jumped on the story.

So, in the absence of any evidence to suggest stranger abduction by a paedophile or paedophile gang, I can only conlude that if Madeleine McCann was the victim of sex abuse, as so widely thought by the parents McCann and their support network - then it could only have been in-house !!!

by **sharonl** 22.12.17 20:56

Since there has been some recent interest in the McCann association with paedophile Sir Clement Freud and the conviction of McCann supporter & troll, Paedophile Nigel Nessling, I thought that I would bump this thread.

by Verdi 22.12.17 21:04

At risk of being repetative..

So beautiful, astonishingly bright, and I’d have to say very charismatic. She would shine out of a crowd. So—God forgive me—maybe that’s part of the problem. That special quality. Some ******* picked up on that.

Jon Corner

by Verdi 22.12.17 21:15

Dear McCanns,

I have a house in P da L, been ashamed of the intrusion to your lives by our media . . . and if you would care to come to lunch/dinner at any time before Wednesday next, do ring and let me know.
I cook decent meals.

Sincerely,
Clement Freud

madeleine by KATE MCCANN

by Liz Eagles 22.12.17 21:20

Verdi wrote:At risk of being repetative..

So beautiful, astonishingly bright, and I’d have to say very charismatic. She would shine out of a crowd. So—God forgive me—maybe that’s part of the problem. That special quality. Some ******* picked up on that.

Jon Corner

What in God's name could possibly make a man describe Madeleine in such terms? Other adults around her described her as liking role play and you could really interact.

It's not normal for men to describe a child in that way.

by **sharonl** 22.12.17 21:41

aquila wrote:
Verdi wrote:At risk of being repetative..

So beautiful, astonishingly bright, and I’d have to say very charismatic. She would shine out of a crowd. So—God forgive me—maybe that’s part of the problem. That special quality. Some ******* picked up on that.

Jon Corner

What in God's name could possibly make a man describe Madeleine in such terms? Other adults around her described her as liking role play and you could really interact.

It's not normal for men to describe a child in that way.

Neither is it normal for the parents to accept it.

And what about the resident suspect paedophile who liked to bathe the children?

by Verdi 23.12.17 0:05

aquila wrote: It's not normal for men to describe a child in that way.

And there lies the major clue as to the mystery of Madeleine McCann's disappearance!

So beautiful - astonishingly bright - charismatic - special quality ???

No adult would use such adjectives to describe a child. Even a mother wouldn't use such words to describe her own child bignono

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:puke:

by Cammerigal 23.12.17 12:15

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Shrimpton

JRP wrote:I wouldn't believe anything Michael Shrimpton says about Madeleine McCann.

Shrimpton is a smug, effete ex barrister who claims to be connected to MI6. He is also very wrong and has failed to triangulate his sources regarding MBM. Funnily enough, he was suspended from the bar for a conviction for owning paedophile images and is a known Mcann supporter.
You can’t Make it up! Clement Freud, Nessling and now Shrimpton, all have the same deviances and all speak on behalf of the McCanns.

Shrimpton fails to recognise that MI6 were the public schoolboys who thought they were “awfully” superior and intelligent. They didn’t fight the dirty war in Ireland, unlike 14 intelligence in the bars of Armagh; with MI5 providing the blackmail dirt on the PIRA nonces from their recordings of paedophilic activities at the Kilcoran children’s home. MI6 in the 1950/60/70 were totally rolled over by the KGB. Northern Ireland is where ‘dim’ Jim Gamble also fits in, with the RUC providing background intel to Castlereagh HQ (but outside of the circle) by beating and fitting up minor Protestant hoodlums. What ‘we’ can’t correlate is Gambles linkage to Gerry Mccann, but a handler always protects his source agent to the nth degree, until instructed to burn them. Shrimpton should know that.

by **Jill Havern** 03.11.21 13:29

MADELEINE McCANN; CLEMENT FREUD; WORLDWIDE RING

References to paedophilia in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 4 1%2BMaddie

Vicky Haynes says that, aged 14, she was sexually abused by Sir Clement Freud.

Freud owned a secluded villa a few hundred yards from the Ocean Club holiday complex from which Madeleine vanished in May 2007.

Vicky's son Mason tells the Daily Mail:

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"My theory is that if you live somewhere for 25 years (the length of time Freud owned his Algarve villa) as a paedophile, you become part of the paedophile ring that exists in that area.

"You share information and stories; that’s how it works.

"I think the abduction was carried out by that ring, and Freud knew something about what happened to the child.

"Either he invited Madeleine's parents to his house to get some sick turn-on out of their visit, or he was trying to get information about where the police had got to with the investigation.

"It is well-known by psychologists that paedophiles like to go back to the scene of their crimes. Perhaps this was his way of doing it."

Kate McCann has described a nightmare in which she dreamt Madeleine was buried on a hillside close to Clement Freud’s villa.

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References to paedophilia in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 4 1%2BClement-Freud-and-Jeremy-Thorpe

References to paedophilia in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 4 1%2BClement-Freud-and-Jeremy-Thorpe

Clement Freud (left) with Jeremy Thorpe.

The western Algarve has been "a teeming hive of paedophile activity."

One investigator said he knew of 38 child sex abusers living in the area.

Between 2005 and 2009, the children of seven holidaying families were reportedly subjected to sex attacks.

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References to paedophilia in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 4 Murat460

References to paedophilia in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 4 Murat460

Robert Murat. Two sisters, Annie Wiltshire and Jayne Jensen, told police they saw Robert Murat outside Madeleine McCann's apartment about 10.30 on the night she vanished. (SISTERS TELL POLICE: WE SAW MURAT NEAR THE APARTMENT)

Madeleine McCann disappeared in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, in Portugal, in 2007.

People linked to Praia da Luz, and to the disappearance, include:

Robert Murat, who was a suspect in the Madeleine case, and who was acquainted with Sir Clement Freud.

Sir Clement Freud, who was friends with the McCanns.

It was a Who's Who at Clement Freud's Funeral.

Philip Edmonds, who was acquainted with the McCanns, and who is the nephew of Margaret Hodge, the UK politician linked to child abuse rings.

Edmonds mysteriously jetted off to Switzerland, where he lives, early on Friday morning (4 May 2007), apparently cutting short his holiday just as news was surfacing that a child had been abducted from Praia da Luz.

Edmonds wrote: "I can confirm that whatever information I had (including some photos of my sons taken on the day Madeleine disappeared, which showed her in the background) was passed both to the police and to the McCanns at the time."

References to paedophilia in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 4 Philipedmonds

References to paedophilia in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 4 Philipedmonds

Philip Edmonds. Philip Martin Edmonds was at Praia da Luz in Portugal when Madeleine McCann disappeared.

More here: https://sexhollands.blogspot.com/2016/06/madeleine-mccann-clement-freud.html?m=1&fbclid=IwAR1DvYwRnBEFdJHM9U6szhb8V7Yv9zjh5B49pnnPnIJC_rd4XRGsC2Sbn10

References to paedophilia in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann