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Post by Verdi 18.05.21 0:57

@AnneBarnard wrote:
I find it utterly bizarre that this 'Christian B' nonsense is still going, I really thought it would have faded discreetly by now. But the prospect of a reconstruction, as mentioned upthread, is very interesting indeed. I wonder what will come of that, if anything.

A reconstruction of what exactly?

The Discovery+ mockuplenty or the adventures of Rin Tin Brueckner, the elusive master criminal extraordinaire? Now you see him now you don't?

Now let me guess thinking Manfred Seyferth the star witness!

As you say - should be interesting, as and when roll .


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Post by AnneBarnard 24.05.21 20:51

@Verdi wrote:
@AnneBarnard wrote:
I find it utterly bizarre that this 'Christian B' nonsense is still going, I really thought it would have faded discreetly by now.  But the prospect of a reconstruction, as mentioned upthread, is very interesting indeed.  I wonder what will come of that, if anything.

A reconstruction of what exactly?

The Discovery+ mockuplenty or the adventures of Rin Tin Brueckner, the elusive master criminal extraordinaire?  Now you see him now you don't?

Now let me guess  thinking Manfred Seyferth the star witness!

As you say - should be interesting, as and when roll .



Well, it could be a reconstruction of Kate and Gerry falling to their knees and weeping. Or of them meticulously searching all night long.

The possibilities are endless, really. high5

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Post by sharonl 25.05.21 0:02

@AnneBarnard wrote:


I find it utterly bizarre that this 'Christian B' nonsense is still going, I really thought it would have faded discreetly by now.  But the prospect of a reconstruction, as mentioned upthread, is very interesting indeed.  I wonder what will come of that, if anything.


thinking Let me guess

Maybe -

"Dozens of holidays makers who were in PDL at the time, identify chief suspect CB and contact the Sun following a reconstruction of the night that Madeleine was abducted from her bed in May 2007 whilst her parents ate at the local tapas bar just yards away".

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Post by PeterMac 25.05.21 8:34

Any reconstruction would have to deal with the hour between 9pm and 10pm 3/5/7
It would require at least 4 men and 2 women to take the roles of GM, JW, MO, ROB, JT and KM
They have to start from a seated position in the Tapas bar and then in turn follow the script they 
ALL agreed on, walking at a normal place out of the Pool area, through the 'Reception', up the road, 
round the corner, along to the car park entrance, across the car park to their apartments,
unlock the door, enter, go into the bedroom, spend a finite and reasonable time there, 
use the facilities in the usual manner, exit, return across the car park, along the road, turn right past 
Apartment 5A, – entering if so indicated on the Stage directions – returning then via the "reception'
building then into the Tapas bar, and resume their position at the communal table.
Only then, after a sensible period of time has elapsed, will the next on the caste list stand, make the appropriate
small talk before performing her or his own role.

The entire event should be timed, and a full video recording made.

All 10 movements must be accomplished within the 50 minutes specified in the script.

[Small wonder the Tapas 7 refused to have anything to do with any such idea]
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Post by CaKeLoveR 25.05.21 8:45

I don't understand why a mock-up of this palaver wasn't carried out in a field, or somewhere large enough,  at the time?
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Post by sharonl 25.05.21 18:48

thinking A second reconstruction may prove interesting, between 5pm and 7pm

Starting with the kids being collected from the creche, to high tea, back to the apartment and then to Paynes visit.
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Post by Silentscope 25.05.21 20:15

Followed by a quick jog down to the Churchyard past the Smith family?
Wearing the same trousers described by Aoife?

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— His trousers were smooth "rights" along the legs, beige in colour, cotton fabric, thicker than linen, possibly with buttons, and without any other decoration.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
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Post by sharonl 25.05.21 21:29

There may be a problem there, with what the child was wearing

She also had a light top, with long sleeves. She did not see it well because the individual had his arms around the child. She is not sure if the child's top was the same colour as her trousers, saying only that it was very light. The fabric was the same as the trousers.
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Post by Silentscope 25.05.21 22:14

Maybe if the Eeyore Pyjamas were not Abducted as suspected, the Child wore something else?

Long sleeved Barbie Pyjamas for instance…?

Someone knows.
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Post by Verdi 26.05.21 1:50

Or maybe a reconstruction starting at the groups arrival at the Ocean Club on Saturday 28th April 2007.  I believe that's where it all began.  It's those missing days that hold the key, the days activities that have never been accounted for.

The main witness statements need to be ironed-out so to speak.  Early days the PJ were conducting a routine police investigation, with little or no knowledge of the background.  The group shouted abduction from the rooftops so abduction it was - at least until Friday 4th May 2007 when circumstances started to look suspicious.

The initial statements taken on 4th May and then the second round of statements taken on 10th/11th May (interestingly excluding Kate McCann (too traumatised - apparently) and the Paynes), were vague.  Not surprising at that stage of the investigation.  Only later, Friday 4th May, did the cracks start to appear but reinforcements in the form of McCann support were quick to jump to their rescue.  The rest as they say, is history.

Here the Foreign and Commonwealth Office seriously need to be investigated.  The British diplomatic corps stationed in Portugal at the time, went way and beyond the call of duty - what they did was illegal under the circumstances.

The rogatory interviews conducted by Leicester police one year later, were at the bequest of the McCanns themselves, character witnesses it would appear.  What hope was there of any revelation - certainly not when the blanket cover-up was already well and truly established.,

To believe the witness statements of the Smith family, you need to believe the abduction theory.  To believe the witness statement of Aoife Smith, you need to believe Gerry McCann was carrying the corps of his baby daughter through the streets of Luz on the night of Thursday 3rd May 2007.

The scenario negates twelve years of hard graft here on CMOMM.

Why go backwards when we should be moving forwards.

This forum alone is a comprehensive study of all things Madeleine McCann case related.  It's a good idea to explore the forum before making trite random comments on the say so of .... well, who know who?

We are not here to score brownie points.

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Post by PeterMac 26.05.21 7:03

Reconstructions are only done to test (=destroy) witnesses' allegations.
No self-respecting lawyer would permit their clients to take part.
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Post by Silentscope 26.05.21 9:32

Keeping an open mind and not trying to move backwards…

1. The style of all the deception carried out so far by ‘team McCann’ suggests to me that all their lies are based on facts or subject matter known to them. The following still have to be resolved.

2. Did Aoife really see those trousers in the street?

3. Or did someone tell her what to say?

4. Why were the Smiths the only ones to notice?

5.if Smithman was Gerry, and he knew some English speaking people had seen him, why would he not change into jeans when he got back, and change the description of the Child with it?

6. If the Child died earlier why did the Smiths not notice a stiff Corpse? They thought she was asleep.
Rigor mortis appears approximately 2 hours after death in the muscles of the face, progresses to the limbs over the next few hours, completing between 6 to 8 hours after death.

After the main case has been settled, a reconstruction in Majorca could also reveal some answers?


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Post by Verdi 26.05.21 12:57

@Silentscope wrote:Keeping an open mind and not trying to move backwards…

thumbsup But stick to the facts and evidence of course!

1. The style of all the deception carried out so far by ‘team McCann’ suggests to me that all their lies are based on facts or subject matter known to them. The following still have to be resolved.

Style of deception i don\'t know , what does that even mean? So let's get resolving..

2. Did Aoife really see those trousers in the street?

See research threads on the subject of the Smith family.


3. Or did someone tell her what to say?

See research threads on the subject of the Smith family.


4. Why were the Smiths the only ones to notice?

Only ones to notice what?

5.if Smithman was Gerry, and he knew some English speaking people had seen him, why would he not change into jeans when he got back, and change the description of the Child with it?

Sorry, I haven't a clue what you're getting at, what does this ^^^ even mean?

6. If the Child died earlier why did the Smiths not notice a stiff Corpse? They thought she was asleep.
Rigor mortis appears approximately 2 hours after death in the muscles of the face, progresses to the limbs over the next few hours, completing between 6 to 8 hours after death.

Read the witness statements, take note of the detail and see research threads on the subject of the Smith family.


After the main case has been settled, a reconstruction in Majorca could also reveal some answers?

No comment!
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Please don't waste any more of your time responding to the above, I know beforehand there will be no tangible explanation.

Besides, we don't want this thread turning into yet another on the subject of Martin Smith and his family. The matter has been discussed extensively in the past. if you take the time to use the forum's various search facilities you will discover for yourself. Meanwhile, to help you on your way, I think the following might be useful to you as it covers the Smith sighting detail in general..

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t11056-smithman-5-the-evidence-of-the-smith-family-from-drogheda-ireland-the-twelve-sets-of-contradictions#303754

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Post by Verdi 26.05.21 17:01

Entertainment Daily - well, I guess there is an element of truthiness in that.

Aside, team McCann really are scraping the bottom of the barrel fourteen years down the line, aren't they? Gone are the days of the Times and Telegraph, even the Guardian and Observer, taking a cursory interest - now it's all down to trashy magasines and the gutter press to maintain the momentum.

More of the same..

Madeleine McCann: Note revealed her parents would be leaving their ‘young children alone’

Could this have led to Madeleine's disappearance?

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26 May 2021, 16:05

Kate McCann – the mother of missing Madeleine – “bitterly regrets” leaving her three children alone while she went out for dinner on the night her eldest was abducted.

Madeleine was just three when she went missing. She would’ve recently celebrated her 18th birthday.

Her parents – Kate and Gerry – marked the day with a post on Facebook.

They said they would “never give up” hoping their daughter would one day return home.

What did Kate McCann say about Madeleine?

Kate said she and Gerry “now bitterly regret” the decision to leave the children alone. She added they “will do so until the end of our days”.

Writing in her book, Madeleine: Our Daughter’s Disappearance and the Continuing Search for Her, Kate revealed a fact that is perhaps lesser known.

And it’s something that she seems to suggest could’ve led to Madeleine’s abduction.

Writing in the book, Kate said she and Gerry were given permission to read through the Portuguese police files.

We were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently.

And she discovered a note written in a staff book – before her daughter disappeared – at the apartment complex.

It revealed the parents requested eating out close to their apartment.

This is so they could dine out and leave their “young children alone”.

The note added they would be “checking on them intermittently”.

So how could the note have tipped off a potential abductor?

Kate wrote: “The note requesting to get a block booking was written in a staff message book. It sat on a desk at the pool reception for most of the day.

Read more: Madeleine McCann’s parents vow to ‘never give up’ as new evidence unearthed

“This book was, by definition, accessible to all staff. And, albeit unintentionally, probably to guests and visitors, too.”
So what did the note actually say?

“To my horror, I saw that no doubt in all innocence and simply to explain why she was bending the rules a bit, the receptionist had added the reason for our request.

“We wanted to eat close to our apartments as we were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently.”

Of course, anyone familiar with the case will know that Madeleine went missing while her parents dined with friends at a nearby restaurant in May 2007.

https://www.entertainmentdaily.co.uk/news/madeleine-mccann-note-revealed-her-parents-would-be-leaving-their-young-children-alone/
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This video is always ripe for another airing - it speaks volumes..

Kate McCann: I Would Never Have Taken A Risk - 1st May 2008

Kate and Gerry McCann speak to Sky's Dermot Murnaghan after spending a year in the headlines looking for their daughter Madeleine.



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