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Shallow Grave in Vicinity of St Vincent's Church remains Unsearched
During a 2010 visit to Praia De Luz, I was interested in trying to identify any possible burial site close the St Vincent's Church which became something of a focal point where the parents took refuge during the evenings and nights in the weeks after Madeleine was reported to have been abducted. I scoured the land within a half mile radius of the church doors, and along the coast line, because I was convinced that the parents had hidden the body of Madeleine within walking distance of the Church. I identified a derelict building situated directly across the Road from the church, which had net curtains up at the window on the road side of the premises. There was a small gate to the side of this building which was partially covered with mesh wire which had a gap in it large enough for me to clamber through into the rear garden beyond, and access to the derelict building. I first looked inside the rooms of the derelict building, and was attracted towards a pink coloured room, with a mattress on the floor. Net curtains were in place at the window. I went to the window and looked out. The view which met my gaze was of the font door of St Vincent's Church about 30 metres or so across the road. I had an uneasy feeling about this place, so I decided to take photographs in the pink room including views from inside the pink room looking out through rearranged net curtains toward the church across the road. I also took a photograph of the discarded single mattress on the floor..
Later on when I returned home to the UK I downloaded all the images I had taken during the exercise described, and I was surprised to find an image had developed in a gap between the edge of the mattress and the outer wall which I refer to as ' THE GHOST OF MADDIE photograph..
Later on when I returned home to the UK I downloaded all the images I had taken during the exercise described, and I was surprised to find an image had developed in a gap between the edge of the mattress and the outer wall which I refer to as ' THE GHOST OF MADDIE photograph..
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A thread posted in the section 'Other High Profile Cases' at Jeremybamberforum.co.uk contains all of the images I took inside the derelict building, and the position of the shallow grave in the back garden where I believe the remains of Madeleine McCann have been disposed of!
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Is it possible to upload key photographs on this thread?
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Mike Tesko wrote:Is it possible to upload key photographs on this thread?
Hi Mike, No stone unturned.
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This sounds to me like potentially vital evidence, if not explosive - I trust you reported your findings and the photographs to the PJ to assist the investigation
A pink room? Echos of the bedroom the McCann parents claim is kept as a sort of shrine in honour of their lost daughter.
Make haste, I can't wait to see your photographs!
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A pink room? Echos of the bedroom the McCann parents claim is kept as a sort of shrine in honour of their lost daughter.
Make haste, I can't wait to see your photographs!
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This is one of the eerie photographs that I took inside the pink room of the derelict building, in 2010 which I refer to as 'THE GHOST OF MADDIE' image..
This is one of the eerie photographs that I took inside the pink room of the derelict building, in 2010 which I refer to as 'THE GHOST OF MADDIE' image..
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Thanks for the welcome!Verdi wrote:This sounds to me like potentially vital evidence, if not explosive - I trust you reported your findings and the photographs to the PJ to assist the investigation
A pink room? Echos of the bedroom the McCann parents claim is kept as a sort of shrine in honour of their lost daughter.
Make haste, I can't wait to see your photographs!
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Thank you for your help Sharon..sharonl wrote:Mike Tesko wrote:Is it possible to upload key photographs on this thread?
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View from behind the net curtains showing the entrance to St Vincent's Church directly opposite from the derelict building..
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Located near the left hand corner of the rear garden of the derelict building, in a hollow overshadowed by tall reeds, is the shallow grave where I believe the remains of Madeleine was disposed of..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Found discarded on a makeshift table inside a room of the derelict building was an empty tube of 'BAYGON' insecticide, with a tenuous link to the alleged sightings of 'TANNERMAN', and 'SMITHMAN'..
Reproduced is an advertisement image promoting the insecticide product..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Reproduced is an advertisement image promoting the insecticide product..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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'TANNERMAN' and 'SMITHMAN' were born..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Sorry Mike but what is the significance of the Baygon spray? And, what is the link to Tannerman and Smithman?
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sharonl wrote:Sorry Mike but what is the significance of the Baygon spray? And, what is the link to Tannerman and Smithman?
A book was found in Gerry McCanns possession dealing with how to prolong a cadaver from decaying as a result of it being attacked by a variety of insects, using insecticide that could be rubbed onto the flesh of the cadaver which served to repel them! The significance of the empty tube of 'BAYGON' insecticide that I found and photographed in the derelict building is capable of corroborating the fact that Madeleine's body were coated with the insecticide for the purpose of preservation. An advertising image linked to the 'BAYGON' insecticide product shows a machete wielding man wearing a mask carrying a blonde haired woman in his arms, in the same manner which Jane Tanner claims to have seen a faceless man carrying off a child and walking away from the vicinity of the Apartment where Maddie was 'taken' from. Replace the blonde haired woman being carried by the masked man in the 'BAYGON' image, with the body of a small child (let's say, Maddie), and you have got the makings of a would be abductor making off with Maddie's body, a sighting which the parents placed a lot of faith in..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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The link between 'TANNERMAN' and 'SMITHMAN', and the 'BAYGON' insecticide advertisement image, which shows a machette wielding, masked man carrying off a body in his arms, is linked together for the following reasons..
If the insecticide spray was used to coat the cadaver for the purpose of preserving it, and protecting it from attack by flesh eating insects and bugs, it must follow that any clothing worn by the cadaver would need to be removed at that stage. This would explain why the McCann parents ended up with Maddie's pink pyjamas in time for them to display them publicly. It would also fit in snugly with the claim that was introduced by Jane Tanner and her inclusion at a later date of the child being carried off was wearing pink pyjamas similar to ones known to have been worn by Maddie prior to her body going missing! What I'm saying is that Jayne Tanners account of the man carrying the child who was dressed in pink pyjamas, is problematic to the McCann parents claim that Kate had washed Maddie's pink pyjamas on the morning of her disappearance. Yet, how could Maddie have been wearing them at the time she was abducted, if the McCanns still had possession of them which they put on public display a short time afterwards. Similarly, 'SMITHMAN' was seen carrying a child wearing pink pyjamas, which serves to confirm that whoever took Maddie's body out of the apartment, did so whilst she was dressed in her pink pyjamas...
How then, did the parents end up back in possession of Maddie's pink pyjamas, if she was wearing them at the time she was 'taken' by a would be unknown abductor?
The facility of the derelict building across the road from St Vincent church is where an empty tube of 'BAYGON' insecticide was found, and in a hollow at the back left hand corner of the rear garden exists a shallow grave where as far as I am concerned, Maddie's remains are concealed..
If the insecticide spray was used to coat the cadaver for the purpose of preserving it, and protecting it from attack by flesh eating insects and bugs, it must follow that any clothing worn by the cadaver would need to be removed at that stage. This would explain why the McCann parents ended up with Maddie's pink pyjamas in time for them to display them publicly. It would also fit in snugly with the claim that was introduced by Jane Tanner and her inclusion at a later date of the child being carried off was wearing pink pyjamas similar to ones known to have been worn by Maddie prior to her body going missing! What I'm saying is that Jayne Tanners account of the man carrying the child who was dressed in pink pyjamas, is problematic to the McCann parents claim that Kate had washed Maddie's pink pyjamas on the morning of her disappearance. Yet, how could Maddie have been wearing them at the time she was abducted, if the McCanns still had possession of them which they put on public display a short time afterwards. Similarly, 'SMITHMAN' was seen carrying a child wearing pink pyjamas, which serves to confirm that whoever took Maddie's body out of the apartment, did so whilst she was dressed in her pink pyjamas...
How then, did the parents end up back in possession of Maddie's pink pyjamas, if she was wearing them at the time she was 'taken' by a would be unknown abductor?
The facility of the derelict building across the road from St Vincent church is where an empty tube of 'BAYGON' insecticide was found, and in a hollow at the back left hand corner of the rear garden exists a shallow grave where as far as I am concerned, Maddie's remains are concealed..
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This is all so interesting and so very fascinating.
I have seen many photographs of the church and it's environs, not one shows a derelict building across the way.
Mike Tesko, would you by any chance have a photograph the other way round so to speak? Meaning the derelict building taken from the front of the church?
This would be so helpful in getting a true feel of the mystery that you portray with such persuasion. If it were known to exist, I feel sure the PJ would have investigated the premises, the derelict building, I wonder it's not included in the PJ files. Unless of course it's classified information.
You haven't yet replied to my question - did you pass this potentially important information to the Portuguese police, or failing that, the UK police?
Sorry to put you to so much trouble within hours of your registration, sorry your posting but this is too good to miss.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]I once stood on top of the shallow grave and looked back in the direction of St Vincent's Church and I got a clear view of the church spire. Whoever had buried the remains of the cadaver in the shallow grave, intended the grave site to be within sight of the church (as close as possible to hallowed ground)...[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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This is all so interesting and so very fascinating.
I have seen many photographs of the church and it's environs, not one shows a derelict building across the way.
Mike Tesko, would you by any chance have a photograph the other way round so to speak? Meaning the derelict building taken from the front of the church?
This would be so helpful in getting a true feel of the mystery that you portray with such persuasion. If it were known to exist, I feel sure the PJ would have investigated the premises, the derelict building, I wonder it's not included in the PJ files. Unless of course it's classified information.
You haven't yet replied to my question - did you pass this potentially important information to the Portuguese police, or failing that, the UK police?
Sorry to put you to so much trouble within hours of your registration, sorry your posting but this is too good to miss.
Yeah, I took lots of photographs I will source one out for you!
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Why did you wait so long before bringing this 'revelationary' information to the leading forum dedicated to the case of missing Madeleine McCann?
This could change the whole direction of the forum's research.
I'm so excited!
This could change the whole direction of the forum's research.
I'm so excited!
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The image you uploaded of the church taken from the derelict building is eerily reminiscent of Kate McCann and the swooshing curtain !
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Can't wait to see the derelict building taken from the church.
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Can't wait to see the derelict building taken from the church.
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Verdi wrote:The image you uploaded of the church taken from the derelict building is eerily reminiscent of Kate McCann and the swooshing curtain !
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Can't wait to see the derelict building taken from the church.
The Swooshing of the net curtain at the window of the derelict building has an eerie link, to the Swooshing of the curtains at the children's bedroom window, yes nobody could make something up like that /this.
Too many coincidences in all of this for it not to mean something important...
Then, just up the street from St Vincent's Church and the derelict building is the car hire shop from where the McCanns hired the Renault scenic car...[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Parking the hire car in the road outside the derelict building at night wouldn't look out of place...
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Not to far away from the Ocean rent a car shop, was the narrow street where the Smith contingent saw the person carrying a child wearing pink pyjamas heading downhill towards the coast line...
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Rather interestingly, an empty bottle of wine was discarded on the floor of the derelict building...
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LUZDOC was located on the corner of the street where the Smith contingent saw the person carrying the child...
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