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Hobs' theory: What I believe may have happened to Madeleine McCann

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Re: Hobs' theory: What I believe may have happened to Madeleine McCann

Post by Keitei on 24.06.17 11:00

@ Sunnypea


On May 3 they all woke between 7;30 and 8:00 AM; doesn't know who woke first. They washed the children and had breakfast at the apartment between 08:00 and 08:30 AM. Food bought by her and Gerry at Baptista supermarket. Previously they'd had breakfast at the Millenium, but as it was so far they'd decided to have breakfast at the apartment.


http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

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Re: Hobs' theory: What I believe may have happened to Madeleine McCann

Post by polyenne on 24.06.17 11:21

An inhibiting factor will be on areas where Luminol has been used.


Was Luminol used ? If so, by who ? And only in Murat's property but not the McCann apartment ?
Presumably if it had been used, a blood dog would simply have indicated the same location ?
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my thoughts

Post by pd2259 on 05.07.17 15:10

I think:
Madeleine WALKED OUT OF THE FLAT at around 2200hr looking for her mum and dad. She got as far as a road and was taken by an OPPORTUNISTIC guy who lifted her and either ran off or got into a car with here.
The reason I think this:
It would look just awful for her parents Katie and Gerry if their daughter managed to 'get out' of the flat' unsupervised (I accept they were supervising from 120 metres away with the Tapas 7). Instead they cling to the 'theory' that an intruder 'broke in to the flat and spirited Madeleine  away. The entire 'blame' then is on this mysterious intruder - of which their is no evidence at all in the flat that a stranger was there - and not on the parents lack of supervision.
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Post by Cmaryholmes on 05.07.17 15:19

@pd2259 wrote:I think:
Madeleine WALKED OUT OF THE FLAT at around 2200hr looking for her mum and dad. She got as far as a road and was taken by an OPPORTUNISTIC guy who lifted her and either ran off or got into a car with here.
The reason I think this:
It would look just awful for her parents Katie and Gerry if their daughter managed to 'get out' of the flat' unsupervised (I accept they were supervising from 120 metres away with the Tapas 7). Instead they cling to the 'theory' that an intruder 'broke in to the flat and spirited Madeleine  away. The entire 'blame' then is on this mysterious intruder - of which their is no evidence at all in the flat that a stranger was there - and not on the parents lack of supervision.
But what about the cadaver/blood dogs?

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Post by Verdi on 05.07.17 15:27

@polyenne wrote:An inhibiting factor will be on areas where Luminol has been used.


Was Luminol used ? If so, by who ? And only in Murat's property but not the McCann apartment ?
Presumably if it had been used, a blood dog would simply have indicated the same location ?
Processo Vol 9 Pages 2307 to 2323
09_VOLUME_IXa_Page_2307
Specialist Examination Report 200707060-CR/L
Requester: DIC PJ Portimao
Fax: 399 of 8 May 2007
Date: 4 May 2007 
- INQUIRY -

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This is the report of the specialist examination of a dwelling situated at Apartment 5A, of Block A of the tourist accommodation building, "Ocean Club" - Praia da Luz, Lagos, from where there occurred, on 3 May 2007, the disappearance of a minor of English nationality.

There proceeded the search for possible blood traces in all of the apartment, using a variable- wave light source appropriate for the task.This search resulted in the detection of several spots having a red-brown tone that suggested blood, which were subjected to a "Kastle-Mayer" peroxidise test, the result obtained, in all cases, being negative.

There also proceeded the observation and search for blood traces inside the apartment using a chemical product to find latent blood traces. In the application of the referred product no results characteristic of the presence of blood traces were found.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_FORENSIC_4_5_7.htm

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Re: Hobs' theory: What I believe may have happened to Madeleine McCann

Post by Verdi on 05.07.17 15:42

Mark Harrison's report  [snipped]



McCann's Apartment.

The apartment in which the McCann's had stayed may present further
opportunities to search. The use of a specialist EVRD (Enhanced Victim
Recovery Dog) and CSI dog (human blood detecting dog) could potentially indicate on whether Madeline's blood is in the property or the scent of a dead body is present. In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed. This search process could be repeated in all the apartments that were occupied by the friends holidaying with the McCann's.
Murat's House and Garden.

The property has been forensically examined to recover any surface trace evidence however the house and gardens may benefit from a fully invasive specialist search to preclude the presence of Madeleine McCann.
A method previously employed on similar cases has been to use the below assets.
Deploy the EVRD to search the house and garden to ensure Madeleine McCann's remains are not present. The dog may also indicate if a body has been stored in the recent past and then moved off the property, though this is not evidential merely intelligence.
Deploy the CSI dog to search the house to locate any human blood.
This will act in support of the forensic examination already completed.
An inhibiting factor will be on areas where Luminol has been used.



http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

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Re: Hobs' theory: What I believe may have happened to Madeleine McCann

Post by polyenne on 05.07.17 15:45

Thank you Verdi
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Post by Trevorjjj on 09.07.17 21:38

@deafoldbat wrote:In order to prompt such high level protection and government involvement, there must have been at least one very important person among them. (Whatever activity they were up to!) 
I have always thought that this is the key to the case. IMHO

Agreed.
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Post by Trevorjjj on 10.07.17 4:03

@Verdi wrote:@LordSleuth #293

That's a very adventurous first post for a newcomer - may I ask, are you being serious?  I'm not responding by quote as I don't consider your comments to be worthy of repetition.

Please be advised, CMoMM does not encourage baseless theorizing or speculation.  If you have genuine reason to believe what you say has any foundation, backed by evidence, then it would be most helpful if you could provide the detail and explain your rationale.

If not, then perhaps your particular sense of humour, or should I say diversion, might be suited to another venue that  welcomes  childplay - like twitter or facebook etc.

The choice is yours.

NB:  It's not up to members to make sense of your theorizing, it's up to you to provide evidence to support your comments - then and only then can members decide whether or not your musings are meritous.

That's a perfectly rational reading of events and behaviour over the years, makes more sense than some.

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Re: Hobs' theory: What I believe may have happened to Madeleine McCann

Post by Trevorjjj on 10.07.17 12:55

Finally, I'm pretty confident that a new or returning reader will not start at post 1 of 100's or 1000's of posts, but rather look for a title like 'latest news'.

Thereafter, if interested, they may well delve into the dark depths of yore, where dragons be et al.

To occupy any forum and not expect to see subjects long swept up by others suddenly dragged from beneath the rug, or from wherever they be resurrected, is to display a rather naive position where human nature is filtered out by extremely efficient and novel means at the entrance.

I was relieved to see that there were no draconian devices employed to restrict new members from joining the discussion, such as can be found on many net forums - no doubt with good reason in some cases.

Self-control is really all one can ask from contributors, though common sense is not without its uses - beyond that, more tedious subjects become a distinct possibility and you are welcome to them.


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