Re: Martin Brunt Confronts Twitter "Troll"

by Woofer Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:51 pm

canada12 wrote:Here's a history of Sweepyface's tweets on Twitter up until the end of September:
http://greptweet.com/u/sweepyface/sweepyface.txt

Interesting reading.
I haven't read through them all but if she made any abusive tweets they should be there for anyone to verify.

It seems Martin Brunt was following her and she challenged him on September 29:
Just noticed @skymartinbrunt is following me, why Martin won't you investigate some of these facts and show neutrality ?

Thanks Canada12 - I`ve spent some time reading them, well not all because there are so many, but I have skimmed those. Considering there are so many, I can only find one that has the word `hell` in it - the rest are just commenting as most of us do on here. She is witty at times and obviously not unintelligent. In a couple of tweets she decries name calling and getting involved in slanging matches.

We don`t know when Brunt started following her but she noticed that he had on Monday - this was after she had been tweeting about Amy Tierney, but they weren`t offensive. Then slightly later she closed her account.

by missbeetle Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:15 pm

Woofer wrote:
canada12 wrote:Here's a history of Sweepyface's tweets on Twitter up until the end of September:
http://greptweet.com/u/sweepyface/sweepyface.txt

Interesting reading.
I haven't read through them all but if she made any abusive tweets they should be there for anyone to verify.

It seems Martin Brunt was following her and she challenged him on September 29:
Just noticed @skymartinbrunt is following me, why Martin won't you investigate some of these facts and show neutrality ?
Thanks Canada12 - I`ve spent some time reading them, well not all because there are so many, but I have skimmed those. Considering there are so many, I can only find one that has the word `hell` in it - the rest are just commenting as most of us do on here. She is witty at times and obviously not unintelligent. In a couple of tweets she decries name calling and getting involved in slanging matches.

We don`t know when Brunt started following her but she noticed that he had on Monday - this was after she had been tweeting about Amy Tierney, but they weren`t offensive. Then slightly later she closed her account.

Thank you also, Canada12 - very, very interesting.

It would seem this lady - taking at face value from what she has posted :

- lives in the US and travels often to the UK

- has a son who is a libel attorney

- has been to Praia da Luz many times...

Mrs Leyland's got a very good command of the English language (2's and 4's excepted) -

I think it was on her Facebook account that she had been to Sussex Uni in the 1960's.

I wonder if she has been a journalist in her time?

(I do think at one stage she wrote that she had emailed Clarence Mitchell)

by **Tony Bennett** Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:15 pm

begbie wrote:
What debate?

As soon as she saw through your anti smith gimmicks you would have spammed her to death and then banned her.

Welcome - welcome that is to the APBRTBDAS.

(The Association of People Badly Rattled by Tony Bennett's Doubts About Smithman).

Are you a new recruit, or more likely one of those who were always solidly behind the government, the BBC, the Metropolitan Police and the McCann Team in their efforts to pass off those two e-fits of different people as 'the man seen by the Irish family'.

Don't like to have your little tricks and deceits exposed, do you?

But back to 'sweepyface'.

I wasn't going to post this out of modesty, but I will do so now in view of your claim that 'sweepyface' would turn against me for articulating my doubts about 'Smithman'.

Here's one of her tweets:

#McCann Tony Bennett and Amaral 2 of the bravest men, outspoken for the truth to be shouted out

by thetruthbeknown Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:29 pm

Do you think there is any relevance to the recent government bodies proposing to 'monitor' social sites, tweets. facebook accounts? Was this an attempt to somehow 'justify' (although albeit it a rather bad choice, that may backfire) I find the whole episode distasteful to be honest, She may have used strong words, but in an armchair many do on social media, its a thing that happens, and this idea that 'threats may be carried out' absolute scaremongering rubbish :/

by jeanmonroe Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:36 am

Tweets about #runt hashtag on Twitter

https://twitter.com/hashtag/runt

pleb-nobby-Lobby ‏@veniviedivici Sep 25. Martin Brunt aka #Runt @skymartinbrunt is looking for #McCann #sceptics to interview, I suspect #summers&
==================================

SEPTEMBER 25th 2014.

I guess 'sweepyface' missed this possible 'entrapment' by the oh so 'clever' M Brunt.

He DID start 'following' ('stalking'?) her on 29th Sept though.

Which she thought was 'odd'?

by Angelique Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:44 am

thetruthbeknown wrote:Do you think there is any relevance to the recent government bodies proposing to 'monitor' social sites, tweets. facebook accounts? Was this an attempt to somehow 'justify' (although albeit it a rather bad choice, that may backfire) I find the whole episode distasteful to be honest, She may have used strong words, but in an armchair many do on social media, its a thing that happens, and this idea that 'threats may be carried out' absolute scaremongering rubbish :/

I think you are spot on. This is how the people can now quickly pass any information before it can be contaminated by the Government or spin. The fact that Swan blamed forums and blogs for discussing this case as the precursor of the tweets which are in some cases offensive. It seems to have dovetailed nicely yet again. They are proactive - we are reactive.

by **Tony Bennett** Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:10 am

Angelique wrote:
The fact that Swan blamed forums and blogs for discussing this case as the precursor of the tweets which are in some cases offensive. It seems to have dovetailed nicely yet again. They are proactive - we are reactive.

The one recent exception to this rule must surely be Richard D. Hall's 4.5-hour marathon DVD film: 'Buried by Mainstream Media: The True Story of Madeleine McCann'.

While people in their hundreds have been buying Summers and Swan's travesty, people in their tens of thousands have been watching Hall's documentary.

The 26 YouTube vids of all or part of his documentary, uploaded in early August by NINE different people who were personally moved enough to do so, have now been viewed by over 98,000 - at the rate of more than one new view per minute after they were uploaded

And that figure excludes tens of thosands more views on his website:

www.madeleinedocumentary.com

And no doubt there have been thousands more views from those who bought his DVDs and have shown them to friends and contacts

by Angelique Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:38 am

Tony

I agree that Richard D. Hall - Buried by Mainstream Media is firmly "out there" but I do think it will be "whoosed" in the near future. The Home Office are threatening YouTube as well. Which I think is why they wanted us to by and copy DVD's to pass them onto friends and family - maybe they expected things to become difficult as regards transmitting information. The Government seem to be hell bent on controlling what we can watch and read.

by Guest Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:40 am

Woofer wrote:[

We don`t know when Brunt started following her but she noticed that he had on Monday - this was after she had been tweeting about Amy Tierney, but they weren`t offensive. Then slightly later she closed her account.

Yes, I noticed this. She was referring to @basilandmanuel as 'Amy', and suggesting any tweeting done by Amy Tierney as a witness to the case should have serious consequences. She belived wholeheartedly that @basilandmanuel had been outed as Amy Tierney and was prolific in her tweets about this.

by sallypelt Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:05 am

Dee Coy wrote:
Woofer wrote:[

We don`t know when Brunt started following her but she noticed that he had on Monday - this was after she had been tweeting about Amy Tierney, but they weren`t offensive. Then slightly later she closed her account.

Yes, I noticed this. She was referring to @basilandmanuel as 'Amy', and suggesting any tweeting done by Amy Tierney as a witness to the case should have serious consequences. She belived wholeheartedly that @basilandmanuel had been outed as Amy Tierney and was prolific in her tweets about this.

I have only read a fraction on Sweepy's tweets, and I too noticed,that things got hot for Sweepy after she started tweeting about Amy being Basil. But many of us know that Basil is not Amy but someone who has been here forever, wearing many socks and getting suspended on many occasions, and in some instances, banned

by Guest Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:28 am

Interesting, sallypelt. I wonder how this conviction came about?

And was it this which was so damaging for her? I believe it was another Twitter member that first made the accusation, not sweepyface.

by sallypelt Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:35 am

Earlier, I was reading this article on the BBC website:Guildford Four, An innocent man's letters from jail and came across this in one of Paul Hill's letters:

"Only my body is in prison, my mind is free. Your minds are in chains!'

What poignant words. I have never heard this quote before, but if it's an original from Paul Hill, I am sure it will go into the famous book of quotes for posterity.

by sallypelt Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:41 am

Dee Coy wrote:Interesting, sallypelt. I wonder how this conviction came about?

And was it this which was so damaging for her? I believe it was another Twitter member that first made the accusation, not sweepyface.

Dee Coy, your guess is as good as mine, but if it was the Amy (whatever her surname is) tweets that started it all off for Sweepy to be outed, maybe it was getting too close and meddling in the police investigation. But, as I've said, I have no idea if this is the case.

by sallypelt Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:51 am

sallypelt wrote:Earlier, I was reading this article on the BBC website:Guildford Four, An innocent man's letters from jail and came across this in one of Paul Hill's letters:

"Only my body is in prison, my mind is free. Your minds are in chains!'

What poignant words. I have never heard this quote before, but if it's an original from Paul Hill, I am sure it will go into the famous book of quotes for posterity.

Here is another quote from one of the letters. Without knowing where it comes from, it's easy to think that it's referring to those who are seeking the truth for Madeleine McCann:

Quote:
"Anyway it's plain that this will never go away [...]. The calibre of the people supporting the case won't let it. But have we to sit and watch things come to light in dribs and drabs every so often over the years while our lives fritter away?"

Here is the link for those who want to read the full article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29429010

by **Tony Bennett** Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:52 am

Angelique wrote:Tony

I agree that Richard D. Hall - Buried by Mainstream Media is firmly "out there" but I do think it will be "whoosed" in the near future. The Home Office are threatening YouTube as well. Which I think is why they wanted us to buy and copy DVD's to pass them onto friends and family - maybe they expected things to become difficult as regards transmitting information. The Government seem to be hell bent on controlling what we can watch and read.

I am reminded of this passsge on page 290 in 'madeleine' by Dr Kate McCann:

"[Carter-Ruck] have given us invaluable advice, for example, in our attempts to deal with the widespread defamatory material circulating on the internet. We have taken action against one or two websites, but it has proved almost impossible to get this stuff removed from some of them, particularly those hosted in the U.S.A. Friends flag up some of the worst offenders for us, but in the end it comes down to picking your battles".

There are hundreds, if not a thousand or more, McCann-sceptic YouTube videos out there. And some have been up for years.

I'm not sure that tackling Richard Hall would be a good use of Carter-Ruck's time. AFAIK he is not a wealthy man. If action were taken against him, it would only provoke more and more people to search for and find out what he has said.

And those who have bought the videos and seem to like them would I am sure make sure that, by hook or by crook, they reached as wide an audience as possible

by bobbin Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:03 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2779973/Report-reveals-extent-allegations-against-ex-MP-Greville-Janner.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2780174/How-detectives-let-child-porn-suspects-hook-They-sat-list-2-300-paedophiles-14-months-did-nothing.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2779459/Police-struggling-soaring-number-child-abuse-images-online-warns-NSPCC.html

Three articles from the Mailonline 03.10.14.

Particular reference to Leicestershire (Lord Greville Janner/Elm House etc.) for historic paedophile cover ups.

I do see an increasing effort to expose the former cover ups and feel the tide is turning on those who thought they had an iron clasp on their former secrets.

Does seem to be more voices daring to come out into the open and this is from the 'newspapers' albeit also on the internet.

(If this should be on another thread Admin, could you please move it. Thanks.

by stillsloppingout Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:23 pm

bobbin wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2779973/Report-reveals-extent-allegations-against-ex-MP-Greville-Janner.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2780174/How-detectives-let-child-porn-suspects-hook-They-sat-list-2-300-paedophiles-14-months-did-nothing.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2779459/Police-struggling-soaring-number-child-abuse-images-online-warns-NSPCC.html

Three articles from the Mailonline 03.10.14.

Particular reference to Leicestershire (Lord Greville Janner/Elm House etc.) for historic paedophile cover ups.

I do see an increasing effort to expose the former cover ups and feel the tide is turning on those who thought they had an iron clasp on their former secrets.

Does seem to be more voices daring to come out into the open and this is from the 'newspapers' albeit also on the internet.

(If this should be on another thread Admin, could you please move it. Thanks.

It was until recently [ with the grooming of children in muslim communities ] a middle class disease , [ they are more organised ] kids passed between the high social status perpetrators , each sworn to secrecy, and able to use there links and power to suppress there crimes .

The Police , social services ,and the courts do not want to get involved ,sweep it under the carpet , for the reasons i have stated above .

It's correct high profile persons are being sounded out , but IMO there will be no charges brought , it is a case of placing these alleged names in the public , [ they are there anyway ] and then the next step is to state lack of evidence etc... the person is exhonarated in name, and its back to arresting radio 1 DJ's .

The same tactic has just recently being used in the case of the famous Pop singer . Police going in all guns blazing , high profile media tip off, there is no way there will ever be a case brought against this person now . the job has been done .

by bobbin Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:34 pm

stillsloppingout wrote:
bobbin wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2779973/Report-reveals-extent-allegations-against-ex-MP-Greville-Janner.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2780174/How-detectives-let-child-porn-suspects-hook-They-sat-list-2-300-paedophiles-14-months-did-nothing.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2779459/Police-struggling-soaring-number-child-abuse-images-online-warns-NSPCC.html

Three articles from the Mailonline 03.10.14.

Particular reference to Leicestershire (Lord Greville Janner/Elm House etc.) for historic paedophile cover ups.

I do see an increasing effort to expose the former cover ups and feel the tide is turning on those who thought they had an iron clasp on their former secrets.

Does seem to be more voices daring to come out into the open and this is from the 'newspapers' albeit also on the internet.

(If this should be on another thread Admin, could you please move it. Thanks.

It was until recently [ with the grooming of children in muslim communities ] a middle class disease , [ they are more organised ] kids passed between the high social status perpetrators , each sworn to secrecy, and able to use there links and power to suppress there crimes .

The Police , social services ,and the courts do not want to get involved ,sweep it under the carpet , for the reasons i have stated above .

It's correct high profile persons are being sounded out , but IMO there will be no charges brought , it is a case of placing these alleged names in the public , [ they are there anyway ] and then the next step is to state lack of evidence etc... the person is exhonarated in name, and its back to arresting radio 1 DJ's .

The same tactic has just recently being used in the case of the famous Pop singer . Police going in all guns blazing , high profile media tip off, there is no way there will ever be a case brought against this person now . the job has been done .

I agree that your description above has been the status quo, but as more info comes out which confirms peoples' suspicions the more likely it is that former victims will come forward and more perpetrators will be exposed.
It's true that prison will all too often not be the achieved legal solution, but loss of public reputation can be a punishment in its own right.
It's the perpetual niggling and gnawing away at a suspected crime which causes the muck to surface and that leads to a state of fear and discomfort for the perpetrator who may have thought his secrets hidden away and safe.

I've now opened a new topic "Articles in MSM etc. supporting Investigation/ Exposure of Cover Ups."
I feel it important that we know that we are not alone and it would be good to list together those sources fighting on the same side.

by jeanmonroe Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:03 pm

I feel it important that we know that we are not alone and it would be good to list together those sources fighting on the same side
==============================================

1) MET POLICE.

2) MANCHESTER POLICE

3) CEOP

4) ESSEX POLICE

Ooops! Silly me.

I thought you said list 'all the sources fighting for justice for abused people'

All these 'organisations' knew, KNEW, about 'grooming, child abuse, indecent images, paedophiles, etc., but did NOTHING!

CEOP didn't even have to 'lift a finger' for their 'information'. The Toronto Police 'handed it to them on a plate' OVER TWO YEARS AGO!

The cancer kids 'abuser' doctor, the pervert deputy headmaster, all on the 'list' of over 2,300+ given to CEOP.

What did CEOP (and Essex Police) 'do' with this information?

NOTHING, that's what, EFFING NOTHING!

Imo, it would be 'easier' to 'list' the people that ARE trying to get justice for abused 'people' not matter how much 'abuse' these people recieve from TPTB.

Brunt would be better 'employed' tracking down the 114 'missing' files that were given to Lord Brittan!

Instead of 'plugging, pushing' a book that adds nothing to a 'missing' person's case!

by jeanmonroe Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:20 pm

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Madeleine-McCann-Accused-Twitter-troll-Brenda/story-23040155-detail/story.html

by sallypelt Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:27 pm

jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Madeleine-McCann-Accused-Twitter-troll-Brenda/story-23040155-detail/story.html

Snipped from the above link:

"Kate and Gerry reportedly said the Sunday Times did not provide them with a proper opportunity to comment and chose not to publish key parts of their response.

What is this intimacy with the McCann's? What ever happened to Mr and Mrs McCann's or just the McCann's? Objectivity? They can't even spell the word, let alone understand it. No wonder the newspapers are being relegated to the waste paper bins.

by Guest Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:30 pm

jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Madeleine-McCann-Accused-Twitter-troll-Brenda/story-23040155-detail/story.html

A fellow villager said: “We all have opinions on things but they should be kept to yourself.”

Oh the irony.

“I don’t think what these people have done is nice at all, I think it’s horrible.”

Does she know what Brenda did?

I bet not.

Brenda has had one of her tweets surrounded by anonymous ones (for "legal reasons") that make hers look worse by association.

And then had a snow-job done on her by the media.

by SixMillionQuid Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:35 pm

jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Madeleine-McCann-Accused-Twitter-troll-Brenda/story-23040155-detail/story.html

Imagine that. Make an unfavourable comment on the internet, get tracked down by the TV police and then forced to leave your home for your own safety.

But call a Chief of Police a f***ing tosser then put it in print, makes some money and be afforded all the protection in the world. Two ordinary doctors...not!

by bobbin Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:37 pm

jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Madeleine-McCann-Accused-Twitter-troll-Brenda/story-23040155-detail/story.html

Yep, it's getting dirty, especially when you look at the sanctimonious comments selected.
And yes it would appear simpler to name the allies, or at least the ones daring to come out and say something, but it's not easy finding allies amongst all the self-serving, especially when the elephant in the room is obscuring the haystack in which the sought after needle is hidden.
That's why I suggested noting them, they are rare beings. spin