Re: Official Find Madeleine - missing shop and contacts

by chillyheat 13.12.13 20:54

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:
The search for me is a big struggle....For instance I wanted to go back to the Exeter connection but search gave me nothing. Typing in Exeter gives nothing. I tend to just keep refreshing on the Portal, but that means things Ive read before are gone because Im thinking I will miss points if I dont keep up....Search on here is hard, even on advanced. Ive given up on it.....Any tips would be helpful

Try searching via Google - type in what you want to search for, followed by site:jillhavern.forumotion.net

Much more effective than the internal search function.

Cheers

by Cristobell 13.12.13 21:53

Trust Your Instincts wrote:Hi Cristobell

The moment I saw them do their first 'appeal' I just thought nah, to use a Belfast term . A gut feeling.

Then the fairytale of the bed time routine, all on the sofa together for a story, sorry scrap that I mean the crease and ruffle resistant bed and milk etc and I thought ok maybe its just me but if I was inclined to dump my kids at creche every day of a holiday and go on a bender every night then bedtime would be a bit of a rush job, I must point out I am not like that at all but I have a good imagination!
Also, I wouldnt give a 3 yr old a drink at bedtime unless they were in a nappy, i doubt Madeleine was as she seemed advanced for her age, and unless I am sure she could / would wake to go to the toilet, which I believe the parents disputed in quashing the wake and wander theory.

Goodness, it is difficult to put thoughts on screen as eloquently as they sound in my head, credit to you all.

All a bit too perfect eh. From my recollection, toddlers are unbelievably hard work, you cannot turn your back on them for a moment. How on earth did Kate manage a shower with all 3 of them up and on the loose, even taking your eyes off them to go to the loo is a risk! Everything about the McCanns' holiday is so calm and organised, when the reality of life with toddlers is completely the opposite. The grumpy Gerry from the bus video, doesn't exactly look like a hands on dad, and on the day Madeleine disappeared, he had 3 tennis lessons, I think much of the parenting was left to Kate.

Following Madeleine's disappearance Kate was photographed with bruises on her wrists and arms. Later, she explained the bruises by saying that in her grief etc on discovering Madeleine missing, she had pounded her arms on the iron rail on the balcony, the bed and the walls in rage. An odd emotion in the circumstances, but it clearly displays she is a volatile woman capable of losing control.

We know too that Gerry is volatile and quick to anger. We have seen it several times, most notably when he got up and halted the interview after being asked about the blood found in the apartment and car, and outside the Court in Lisbon during the 2010 book banning trial.

Despite the above, Kate would have us believe that they have never once blamed each other or their friends, nor it would seem, has there been any arguments or disagreements. They and the twins are happy - not as happy as they could be, but happy nevertheless. All very strange.

by Trust Your Instincts 13.12.13 22:15

Absolutely agree Cristobell.

I imagine it was a holiday lacking the sunshine they hoped for, full of 'me time' for Gerry, lots of boozing and arguing, the kids crying out for attention and Kate struggling to pick up the pieces, knee deep in nappies and toddler bedlam ( outside Creche opening times) emotionally volatile, hungover, tired and totally peeved off and then ... In my Opinion.

by ekatae 13.12.13 22:22

Thank you Christobell for this information. I realise how far behind I am on this Forum and must read more i.e. : that is the first I have heard of Following Madeleine's disappearance Kate was photographed with bruises on her wrists and arms.....

by Guest 13.12.13 22:29

Ekatae, can I direct you to the McCannfiles, for further reading.

by chillyheat 13.12.13 22:33

ekatae wrote:Thank you Christobell for this information. I realise how far behind I am on this Forum and must read more i.e. : that is the first I have heard of Following Madeleine's disappearance Kate was photographed with bruises on her wrists and arms.....

As DCI Redwood would say.....Its a Payneful Revelation. Kate says 30 seconds and David says 30 minutes...Rough estimates of course big grin

by ekatae 13.12.13 22:39

Thank you ladyinred the site seems very very informative and sophisticated...... will have a browse..... yes

by ekatae 13.12.13 22:42

Bit confused with the last post though....Seems like there are a lot of paranoid posters here.... Don't worry I am Ekatae (Not Kate) LOL.... : D

by Guest 13.12.13 22:49

ChillyHeat wrote: [...]I tend to just keep refreshing on the Portal, but that means things Ive read before are gone because Im thinking I will miss points if I dont keep up....Search on here is hard, even on advanced. Ive given up on it.....Any tips would be helpful

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I read via "Home". Very easy to follow and all threads containing non-read comments will be coloured.

by Trust Your Instincts 13.12.13 23:03

Just looking back over the Find Madeleine site blog and going on the previous pattern of updates ,the Christmas update for this year should be logged next week.

I am very interested to read this years Christmas update.

by ekatae 13.12.13 23:19

Very Good point.... dance

by ultimaThule 13.12.13 23:43

Trust Your Instincts wrote:Absolutely agree Cristobell.

I imagine it was a holiday lacking the sunshine they hoped for, full of 'me time' for Gerry, lots of boozing and arguing, the kids crying out for attention and Kate struggling to pick up the pieces, knee deep in nappies and toddler bedlam ( outside Creche opening times) emotionally volatile, hungover, tired and totally peeved off and then ... In my Opinion.

It's always 'me time' for Gerry and Kate's not far behind in the 'me first' stakes.

This was reputed to be a 'make or break' holiday but precisely why this should be is something we can only guess at - financial strain, roving eye syndrome, or general disillusionment that wedded bliss isn't always blissful with 3 littlies in tow?

Do you have any links for that please

In any event there was Kate who hitherto had, again reputedly, been given 'a lot of support' from various family members after she had the twins, coping alone with 2 toddlers and a 3 year old while Gerry threw himself into male bonding over the tennis courts and eyeing up MW staff over dinnner.

Although she was able to offload Madeleine and the twins for much of the day she must have missed the live-in nanny who was meant to have accompanied the family to Portugal, especially as this employee could have been tasked with the chore of ferrying them to and from 2 different destinations twice a day and making lunch for the whole family - or could Kate have seen it as a blessing that this woman/girl's employment was abruptly terminated...?

Again any links?

To cap it all, this supposedly intelligent group of holidaymakers set off for the unsettled and inclement weather of the Algarve in late April/early May with clothing more suited to a sojourn in the Bahamas, and found themselves in an ungated 'holiday complex' where the half-board option they'd paid for could only be fully taken advantage of some considerable distance away from their accomodation.

If I found myself in similar circumstances I'd want to throttle the organiser, and I'd be livid that he'd not only snagged the largest apartment but also had his ma-in-law on hand to take up the slack and a listening device that worked 50+ yards away from its source.

by ekatae 14.12.13 0:04

Whoever wrote Do you have any links for that please
I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE......(as it is such an informative thread)...... I can only but keep learning from such research you guys put in..... Thank You.....!!

by marconi 14.12.13 0:21

There is a real possibility that the Met police are investigating the fund and a Judge blocked it till it is finished.
I don't believe that the McCanns would ever refuse money at any time of their lives unless they would be obliged to.

by ekatae 14.12.13 0:26

Great post... but 'Accommodation' is the correct spelling.... (just so you can edit)...

by Guest 14.12.13 1:14

how rude ekatae.

by Guest 14.12.13 7:51

Bellisa, you will find similar examples of Ekatae's sarcasm in other threads.

by marconi 14.12.13 7:57

Now it seems that the case has gone beyond Portugal.It looks like that the fund bank account is frozen and it will be not easy for them to pay all of the regular expenses they have, I suspect.
The truth would have being cheaper, especially if it was an innocent accident. But was it?
Where is their former power, when they were able to manipulate Heaven and the world, when lawyers and politicians were protecting them, when they were rich and untouchable?
I wonder if freezing the account is also a way to make them come forward, telling the truth.
If they are living on one salary, it is being hell, I think. A prison is cheaper.
So many good people gave them money!
There is a photo of them where they are sitting at a table, the table covered up with money that they received from a lot of people. I wish McCCannfiles would again show us that photo.

by The Rooster 14.12.13 8:14

Marconi how do you know that the bank account is frozen? I agree that prison would be a cheaper option for them, I think McCann would enjoy all the attention he would attract from his new found pals. He would be very popular.

by plebgate 14.12.13 9:30

@Marconi, the picture you posted about was, I believe, a mickey take and was photoshopped.

There is a thread or posts about it on the forum.

Things are very quiet. Has Clarrie gone abroad on his hols or sumat? Unusual not to hear some rubbish being spouted from him in one of his papers. lol.

by marconi 14.12.13 9:47

I wrote "it looks like the account is frozen".

I wonder if the police have concrete proof of the death, I even wonder if they found the body that could be now in a laboratory
Autopsy can demand a lot of specialists and it can take a very long time, especially after 6 years and having two countries involved in the investigation. We don't know.
My theory is that something has being found, that the McCanns could have known that the child is dead and hid the truth, and that could be the reason why the fund account is not working.

by Guest 14.12.13 10:42

I can confirm that the "money on the table" photo is a hoax with the McCanns added to it. The currency on the table is Lebanese and the real photo has two Arabic women in it.

by Nina 14.12.13 11:25

Didn't member Enid O'Dowd send a donation last week?

by Guest 14.12.13 11:27

Yes - but not through the site; it was a direct bank transfer.

So the account is still active, it seems.

by ultimaThule 14.12.13 11:53

As it appears banks are no longer accepting donations to the McCanns' limited company made in person by customers at counters across the UK, and as the website's online 'donate' button remains inaccessible, it seems that payments can only be made by means of bank transfer online or by placing a gift from Santa and his reindeers in a brown envelope and sending it direct to Rothley Towers via the PO box designated for that purpose.

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