Why didn't you come last night...?

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Has anyone seen this? Mccanns Sweden interview in relation to their bewk promotion.

maybe mod may want to move this to an appropriate thread, else it risks being lost in this one.
This one is particularly important in light of the Yard's review, as this interview is recent. It just goes to show they have the flaming cheeks to continue their charade.

Just watch the eyes of gerry and kate (blinking like stars) and compared them to the interviewer.

Me wrote:

Merrymo wrote:
1)How did the abductor enter the apartment without being seen by GM, JW or JT?


By entering the apartment through the front door on the front of the apartment. JT GM and JW were several metres down the road which ran down the side of Apartment 5A - past the gate where GM left from. . I'm assuming none of them could see round corners and so would have no view of what was happening along the front of the apartment - where Maddies bedroom window was and the recessed front door.

How did he get in? Key? Where did he get it from and how? Presumably he wouldn't have known there would be a child in that apartment until they arrived there, so he had to get hold of a copy of that key from somewhere in a mtter of a few days and as David Payne says:

"...essentially you needed the key you know, to use, if I remember to
gain access into the, err into the apartment, and you know generally it
was difficult because there was, you know we'd ask about more than one
key, there was the only one key to the apartment."

An abduction from this particular apartment may have been planned for months. I don't think it is beyond the wit of seasoned criminals to get hold of an apartment key maybe even months beforehand in readiness. .. It's not like a private house key. There is probably more than one key, used by various people going in and out - cleaners, maintenance people etc. Apartment keys do get lost and mislaid - and could be stolen or 'borrowed' and copied. Unless it can be proved that it is impossible for an apartment key go missing at this complex then it has to remain a viable possibility IMO.

According to previous tenants, the cleaners had a key, which opened the door even when their own key was left in the locked door on the inside.


Shutter? Jane's man wasn't wearing gloives so how did he open the shutter wihtout leaving a print or anyu forensice trace?

Maybe Maddie was passed through the window by someone inside wearing gloves to someone outside who was not wearing gloves.

Merrymo wrote:2)Was he hiding and leapt in as soon as GM left?

Some think he was already in the apartment -(Dianne Webster is one of them) because of how GM found the bedroom door ajar. But if not, then as soon as GM left via the back patio door, he could have entered via the front door at the opposite end of the apartment.

See above for how he got in?

If the perpetrators had the place under surveillance they would have seen Oldfield do his check and go off to the Tapas and could have seen when the whole group was finally assembled and settled at the tables. If they had been keeping tabs during the week they would think they had a while before there would be any further checks - and so could have entered then - (even by the Patio doors) - and hidden when they heard GM returning via the Patio door, or could even have been warned by others that he was on his way back - and decided to hide until he left after his check. There is more than one possible scenario IMO

Merrymo wrote:3)He couldn't have been in the apartment already - GM stated he went in every room?

I thought he glanced into his own bedroom and went to the bathroom? I don't think he said he actually went into the childrens bedroom did he? He didn't 'search' the whole place that's for sure. What about the kitchen? (If that's incorrect I'm sure someone will point it out.)

If he went in through the patio door as he later saud he would have walked through the whole apartment to get there. Yes he did go into the bedroom.

Here's his first statement:

[color:df2d=000000]As

usual, every half hour
and considering that the restaurant was close to the apartment, the
deponent or his wife went to check
if the children were ok.
Thus, at 9.05 pm, the deponent entered the club, using his key, the
door being locked, and went to
the children's bedroom
and noted that the twins and Madeleine were in perfect condition. He
then went to the toilet, where
he remained for a few
instants, left the apartment, and then crossed ways with someone with
whom he had played tennis, who
had a baby buggy, also a
British citizen, with whom he had a brief conversation

It doesn't say he went into the bedroom - - he could have seen Maddie and the twins from the doorway. Why would he need to go any further in there? He didn't mention the kitchen either. The door to the kitchen is right opposite Maddies bedroom door and the kitchen does not require to be walked through to get from the patio door to the bedroom.

Merrymo wrote:Your 'reasoning' is not holding up to scrutiny Merrymo. As Me says, you disregard anything that doesn't back up your 'abduction' theory.

LOL - My reasoning isn't holding up to scrutiny??? Well you tell me how JT GM and JW could see round corners then.

No your reasonsing doesnt hold up becuase you have a man magically getting into a locked apartment without gloves and not leaving a trace and getitng out in no time whatsoever whilst drugging children and lifting shutters, all the while hiding when Gerry came in.

IMO there was more than one person involved and this had been meticulously planned for a long time at this particular apartment. They were just waiting for the right family to come along. The McCanns arrived and fitted every criterion - especially with their repetitive evening routine. IMO the 3rd May was the last possible chance to do the deed because the 4th was the last night of the holiday and people often change their routines on the last night.



All IMHO

Merrymo

They physically searched themselves during the early morning of

May 4th.

During the ensuing days they were mainly involved with the police etc. They were aware that others were searching at that time. .. Once the press arrived it was a

pointless

exercise to even try to search themselves IMO.

Jean wrote:There was in fact the Gordon family with two small children in the apartment the week before. How lucky they were not to have fallen victim to this lurking band of desperados!

Ribisl wrote:Merrymo - listening to your tortuous argument is like [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

tigger wrote:Merrymo wrote:

An abduction from this particular apartment may have been planned for months. I don't think it is beyond the wit of seasoned criminals to get hold of an apartment key maybe even months beforehand in readiness. .. It's not like a private house key. There is probably more than one key, used by various people going in and out - cleaners, maintenance people etc. Apartment keys do get lost and mislaid - and could be stolen or 'borrowed' and copied. Unless it can be proved that it is impossible for an apartment key go missing at this complex then it has to remain a viable possibility IMO.

According to previous tenants, the cleaners had a key, which opened the door even when their own key was left in the locked door on the inside.
unquote

I didn't want to join this 'discussion' because Merrymo might as well be speaking Klingon. However, the above quote was too good.

I am now envisaging this gang of paedophiles holed up in PdL with phone calls to their 'clients' who are waiting for a suitable child.
'So you got the key? Who's in there now? '
'It's-a no good boss, them's not leaving their kids alone, bin watching all night' (picture of unsavory villain as described by JT)
'Damn! We're waiting for a four year old photogenic toddler with blonde hair - can't wait forever you know .. first no kids at all, just geriatrics, then five times running idiot parents who never left their kids and sat watching telly all night, what's this lot like?'
'Well, we've been watching 5a for five months - lucky no-one's noticed so far what with us hanging around the parking lot - but this lot is leaving them kids alone every night - we've struck lucky.'
'But you're in with a chance now you've got a key?'
'This lot are leaving the patio doors open - we tried the front door last night but it made such a racket that the kid woke up and started bawling'.
'So?'
'We'se a gonna try again tonight boss, still with the key but we're gonna leave the window open so they don't know we got the key.'
'What if she starts bawling again?'
'Got that covered boss, gonna read her bedtime story and give her extra dose of Calpol, then pick her up, open the window and shutters and get out - not using the car cos of people reading number plates...'
'In the dark?'
'Can't be too careful boss .... my mate Ovoid isa gonna take her down the road - he's a strong guy can carry her on the tips of his fingers.....

I got carried away here - my apologies if this is offensive.

tigger wrote:Merrymo wrote:

An abduction from this particular apartment may have been planned for months. I don't think it is beyond the wit of seasoned criminals to get hold of an apartment key maybe even months beforehand in readiness. .. It's not like a private house key. There is probably more than one key, used by various people going in and out - cleaners, maintenance people etc. Apartment keys do get lost and mislaid - and could be stolen or 'borrowed' and copied. Unless it can be proved that it is impossible for an apartment key go missing at this complex then it has to remain a viable possibility IMO.

According to previous tenants, the cleaners had a key, which opened the door even when their own key was left in the locked door on the inside.
unquote

I didn't want to join this 'discussion' because Merrymo might as well be speaking Klingon. However, the above quote was too good.

I am now envisaging this gang of paedophiles holed up in PdL with phone calls to their 'clients' who are waiting for a suitable child.
'So you got the key? Who's in there now? '
'It's-a no good boss, them's wasn't leaving their kids alone, bin watching all night' (picture of unsavory villain as described by JT)
'Damn! We're waiting for a four year old photogenic toddler with blonde hair - can't wait forever you know .. first no kids at all, just geriatrics, then five times running idiot parents who never left their kids and sat watching telly all night, what's this lot like?'
'Well, we've been watching 5a for five months - lucky no-one's noticed so far what with us hanging around the parking lot - but this lot is leaving them kids alone every night - we've struck lucky.'
'But you're in with a chance now you've got a key?'
'This lot are leaving the patio doors open - we tried the front door last night but it made such a racket that the kid woke up and started bawling'.
'So?'
'We'se a gonna try again tonight boss, still with the key but we're gonna leave the window open so they don't know we got the key.'
'What if she starts bawling again?'
'Got that covered boss, gonna read her bedtime story and give her extra dose of Calpol, then pick her up, open the window and shutters and get out - not using the car cos of people reading number plates...'
'In the dark?'
'Can't be too careful boss .... my mate Ovoid isa gonna take her down the road - he's a strong guy can carry her on the tips of his fingers.....

I got carried away here - my apologies if this is offensive.

Merrymo wrote:

anil39200 wrote:Merrymo,
Would you mind answering a couple of questions please?



They physically searched themselves during the early morning of May 4th. During the ensuing days they were mainly involved with the police etc. They were aware that others were searching at that time. .. Once the press arrived it was a pointless exercise to even try to search themselves IMO.

The only publicity they have sought is to keep their daughter's profile high in the public's mind.