Weather In Praia Da Luz

by Gillyspot 04.01.12 22:40

I have researched the weather during the McCanns holiday to PDL.

These are all taken from this website.

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/LPFR/2007/5/3/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Lagos&req_state=&req_statename=Portugal&MR=1

I started looking to see if the "last photo" was really taken on the 3rd and seeing the weather I doubt it.

Could someone get these resized for me?

by maebee 04.01.12 22:44

Gillyspot wrote:I have researched the weather during the McCanns holiday to PDL.

These are all taken from this website.

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/LPFR/2007/5/3/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Lagos&req_state=&req_statename=Portugal&MR=1

I started looking to see if the "last photo" was really taken on the 3rd and seeing the weather I doubt it.

Could someone get these resized for me?

Thanks for this Gilly. You could try here for shrinking pics: http://www.onthegosoft.com/shrink_pic.htm

by Gillyspot 04.01.12 22:54

I am trying to make them wider but nothing I do will work.

by Liz Eagles 04.01.12 23:02

I lived in a Med country for several years. I used to use wunderground for weather forecasts. I learnt to pay no particular attention to them. My local weather station satellite often said rain/cloud etc and I'd be sitting in blazing heat. I'd ring a friend a couple of miles away and find out she was under a deluge of rain.

by Gillyspot 04.01.12 23:05

aquila wrote:I lived in a Med country for several years. I used to use wunderground for weather forecasts. I learnt to pay no particular attention to them. My local weather station satellite often said rain/cloud etc and I'd be sitting in blazing heat. I'd ring a friend a couple of miles away and find out she was under a deluge of rain.

These aren't weather forecasts they are from historical weather records from an actual weather station

by Liz Eagles 04.01.12 23:10

Gillyspot wrote:
aquila wrote:I lived in a Med country for several years. I used to use wunderground for weather forecasts. I learnt to pay no particular attention to them. My local weather station satellite often said rain/cloud etc and I'd be sitting in blazing heat. I'd ring a friend a couple of miles away and find out she was under a deluge of rain.

These aren't weather forecasts they are from historical weather records from an actual weather station

Hi Gillyspot,

what I was trying to say is that on the same day a weather station could have said it was raining in my area when I had no cloud or rain and yet my not so distant neighbour would have found that historical record to be correct. I'm not a weather expert. I agree that if the records quote an earthquake (which I was unfortunate enough to experience a large earthquake) then there would be no denying that.

by Gillyspot 04.01.12 23:19

The weather does show a trend though. The early part of the holiday was sunny and warm then it gets cloudy and some rain after the 2nd day. It still makes me doubt that the last photo was taken on the 3rd May when it was much cooler and not sunny.

by Liz Eagles 04.01.12 23:39

Gillyspot wrote:The weather does show a trend though. The early part of the holiday was sunny and warm then it gets cloudy and some rain after the 2nd day. It still makes me doubt that the last photo was taken on the 3rd May when it was much cooler and not sunny.

I agree with you Gillyspot in trying to establish whether that photo was taken on 3rd May, I think it would be far more accurate if we were blessed with other people's photos taken on the same day in that location. That would be definite proof. The pity is that anyone with an ounce of sense who was there at the same time (unconnected with the disappearance of Madeleine) probably wouldn't offer photographs for fear of losing their privacy at best or becoming embroiled in what IMO is a bloody fantasy/scandal. I know if I'd been there I'm not sure I'd want to become embroiled in this.

We're singing off the same songsheet.

by TrollAng 05.01.12 19:33

Is this what you wanted Gillyspot?

Time (WEST)	Temp.	Dew Point	Humidity	Pressure	Visibility	Wind Dir	Wind Speed	Gust Speed	Precip	Conditions
12:00 AM	17.0 °C	10.0 °C	63%	1017 hPa	-	North	16.7 km/h / 4.6 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
12:30 AM	16.0 °C	10.0 °C	68%	1017 hPa	-	North	18.5 km/h / 5.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
1:00 AM	15 °C	9 °C	55%	1017 hPa	15 km	North	10.8 km/h /	-	-	Clear
1:00 AM	16.0 °C	10.0 °C	68%	1017 hPa	-	North	16.7 km/h / 4.6 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
1:30 AM	15.0 °C	10.0 °C	72%	1017 hPa	-	North	14.8 km/h / 4.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
2:00 AM	15.0 °C	10.0 °C	72%	1016 hPa	-	North	14.8 km/h / 4.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
2:30 AM	15.0 °C	10.0 °C	72%	1016 hPa	-	North	16.7 km/h / 4.6 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
3:00 AM	15.0 °C	10.0 °C	72%	1016 hPa	-	North	16.7 km/h / 4.6 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
3:30 AM	14.0 °C	10.0 °C	77%	1016 hPa	-	North	14.8 km/h / 4.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
4:00 AM	14 °C	9 °C	62%	1017 hPa	15 km	North	10.8 km/h /	-	-
4:00 AM	14.0 °C	10.0 °C	77%	1016 hPa	-	North	14.8 km/h / 4.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
4:30 AM	14.0 °C	10.0 °C	77%	1016 hPa	-	North	14.8 km/h / 4.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
5:00 AM	13.0 °C	10.0 °C	82%	1016 hPa	-	North	16.7 km/h / 4.6 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
5:30 AM	13.0 °C	10.0 °C	82%	1016 hPa	-	North	14.8 km/h / 4.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
6:00 AM	13.0 °C	10.0 °C	82%	1016 hPa	-	North	14.8 km/h / 4.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
6:30 AM	13.0 °C	10.0 °C	82%	1016 hPa	-	Variable	3.7 km/h / 1.0 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
7:00 AM	12 °C	8 °C	69%	1018 hPa	15 km		3.6 km/h /	-	-
7:00 AM	13.0 °C	9.0 °C	77%	1017 hPa	-	Variable	1.9 km/h / 0.5 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
7:30 AM	13.0 °C	9.0 °C	77%	1017 hPa	-	Variable	3.7 km/h / 1.0 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
8:00 AM	14.0 °C	10.0 °C	77%	1018 hPa	-	Variable	5.6 km/h / 1.5 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
8:30 AM	15.0 °C	10.0 °C	72%	1018 hPa	-	WSW	7.4 km/h / 2.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
9:00 AM	16.0 °C	9.0 °C	63%	1018 hPa	-	Variable	5.6 km/h / 1.5 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
9:30 AM	17.0 °C	9.0 °C	59%	1018 hPa	-	Variable	5.6 km/h / 1.5 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
10:00 AM	17 °C	6 °C	36%	1019 hPa	15 km	NNE	10.8 km/h /	-	-
10:00 AM	18.0 °C	8.0 °C	52%	1018 hPa	-	Variable	9.3 km/h / 2.6 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
10:30 AM	19.0 °C	9.0 °C	52%	1018 hPa	-	Variable	7.4 km/h / 2.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
11:00 AM	19.0 °C	6.0 °C	43%	1018 hPa	-	NNW	7.4 km/h / 2.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
11:30 AM	20.0 °C	6.0 °C	40%	1018 hPa	-	Variable	7.4 km/h / 2.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
12:00 PM	20.0 °C	2.0 °C	30%	1018 hPa	-	WNW	18.5 km/h / 5.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
12:30 PM	21.0 °C	2.0 °C	28%	1018 hPa	-	WNW	18.5 km/h / 5.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
1:00 PM	22 °C	6 °C	25%	1018 hPa	15 km	West	18.0 km/h /	-	-
1:00 PM	22.0 °C	2.0 °C	27%	1018 hPa	-	NW	16.7 km/h / 4.6 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
1:30 PM	21.0 °C	6.0 °C	38%	1018 hPa	-	West	27.8 km/h / 7.7 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
2:00 PM	19.0 °C	12.0 °C	64%	1018 hPa	-	WSW	27.8 km/h / 7.7 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
2:30 PM	19.0 °C	11.0 °C	60%	1017 hPa	-	WSW	29.6 km/h / 8.2 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
3:00 PM	19.0 °C	11.0 °C	60%	1017 hPa	-	WSW	33.3 km/h / 9.3 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
3:30 PM	19.0 °C	11.0 °C	60%	1017 hPa	10.0 km	WSW	31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s	-	N/A	Partly Cloudy
4:00 PM	20 °C	10 °C	43%	1017 hPa	15 km	WSW	32.4 km/h /	-	-	Scattered Clouds
4:00 PM	20.0 °C	12.0 °C	60%	1017 hPa	10.0 km	West	31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s	-	N/A	Partly Cloudy
4:30 PM	20.0 °C	12.0 °C	60%	1017 hPa	10.0 km	West	31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s	-	N/A	Partly Cloudy
5:00 PM	20.0 °C	10.0 °C	52%	1016 hPa	10.0 km	WSW	31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s	-	N/A	Partly Cloudy
5:30 PM	20.0 °C	11.0 °C	56%	1016 hPa	10.0 km	WSW	31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s	-	N/A	Partly Cloudy
6:00 PM	20.0 °C	11.0 °C	56%	1016 hPa	10.0 km	West	31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s	-	N/A	Partly Cloudy
6:30 PM	21.0 °C	6.0 °C	38%	1016 hPa	10.0 km	West	27.8 km/h / 7.7 m/s	-	N/A	Partly Cloudy
7:00 PM	20 °C	6 °C	30%	1017 hPa	15 km	WNW	28.8 km/h /	-	-
7:00 PM	21.0 °C	6.0 °C	38%	1016 hPa	-	WNW	31.5 km/h / 8.7 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
7:30 PM	20.0 °C	8.0 °C	46%	1017 hPa	-	WNW	33.3 km/h / 9.3 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
8:00 PM	19.0 °C	10.0 °C	56%	1017 hPa	-	WNW	27.8 km/h / 7.7 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
8:30 PM	18.0 °C	10.0 °C	59%	1017 hPa	-	NW	24.1 km/h / 6.7 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
9:00 PM	17.0 °C	10.0 °C	63%	1018 hPa	-	NW	25.9 km/h / 7.2 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
9:30 PM	16.0 °C	10.0 °C	68%	1018 hPa	-	NW	24.1 km/h / 6.7 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
10:00 PM	15 °C	9 °C	58%	1020 hPa	15 km	NW	14.4 km/h /	-	-
10:00 PM	16.0 °C	10.0 °C	68%	1019 hPa	-	NW	20.4 km/h / 5.7 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
10:30 PM	15.0 °C	10.0 °C	72%	1019 hPa	-	NW	18.5 km/h / 5.1 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
11:00 PM	15.0 °C	10.0 °C	72%	1019 hPa	-	WNW	20.4 km/h / 5.7 m/s	-	N/A	Clear
11:30 PM	15.0 °C	10.0 °C	72%	1019 hPa	-	NW	20.4 km/h / 5.7 m/s	-	N/A	Clear

by Gillyspot 05.01.12 21:27

Ahh thanks. Well done that is EXACTLY what I wanted. Clear and easy to read. You are a star roses

by **Mainline** 20.04.19 6:43

Sorry to necropost. Recently shared this on twitter, and searching was surprised to find weather station data here corroborating exactly what the satellite imagery I found shows - scattered cloud. The above chart says Luz was only overcast around 1530. The especially dense clouds are over to the East.

This was taken by a NASA service on May 3rd. With a little digging I was able to ascertain the time window it was taken in. the metadata says it was taken between 1040 and 1225 UTC, so move that one hour ahead for the time in Portugal.

The particular service used for this image was the 'MOD09GQ - MODIS/Terra Surface Reflectance Daily L2G Global 250m SIN Grid'. You can search the data yourself here.

Note - gillyspot's data is for Lagos, which in terms of this image and cloud coverage, is exactly the same as Luz (geographically 6 miles between the two).

I want to stress this is posted for the factual content. It is still my belief that the 'pool photo' was taken earlier in the week and was repurposed to paint a happy picture. Very much admire PeterMac's work on this topic.

To corrborate the above charts further, this image was taken on May 1st (sadly this array doesnt photo daily, or we'd have a much better photo):

by ferrotty 20.04.19 7:59

Portugal is not 1hr ahead of GMT if that's what you mean.

by **Mainline** 20.04.19 8:01

ferrotty wrote:Portugal is not 1hr ahead of GMT if that's what you mean.

No, as written I meant UTC, I was told all times on these images are UTC

https://24timezones.com/time-zone/utc

by ferrotty 20.04.19 10:50

Mainline wrote:
ferrotty wrote:Portugal is not 1hr ahead of GMT if that's what you mean.

No, as written I meant UTC, I was told all times on these images are UTC

https://24timezones.com/time-zone/utc

Ah apologies.

by **Mainline** 20.04.19 21:23

ferrotty wrote:
Mainline wrote:
ferrotty wrote:Portugal is not 1hr ahead of GMT if that's what you mean.

No, as written I meant UTC, I was told all times on these images are UTC

https://24timezones.com/time-zone/utc
Ah apologies.

No worries, I had to look up what the time difference was with UTC myself! I guess it's an easier time to keep for NASA since the States has three timezones across it.

by **ShiningInLuz** 21.04.19 10:27

aquila wrote:I lived in a Med country for several years. I used to use wunderground for weather forecasts. I learnt to pay no particular attention to them. My local weather station satellite often said rain/cloud etc and I'd be sitting in blazing heat. I'd ring a friend a couple of miles away and find out she was under a deluge of rain.

It's a highly relevant point.

Just yesterday, my beloved returned from Lagos, telling me it was chucking it down. Our car was still dripping rain.

At exactly the same time of the downpour, I was roughly 5 miles north of Lagos, walking my dog. The clouds were ominous, but all we got was the very slightest spit of rain.

Records are a starter, but reality is somewhat more complex.