Re: What was so special about Burgau?

by Guest 20.05.14 12:50

daffodil wrote:
It is a bad pic. very grainy, but thought it might be worth copying here.

That ice cream must be eighteen inches long....

Pointless fact of the day: "Salsalito" is an anagram of "Lolita ass".

by **tigger** 20.05.14 15:22

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
daffodil wrote:
It is a bad pic. very grainy, but thought it might be worth copying here.

That ice cream must be eighteen inches long....

Pointless fact of the day: "Salsalito" is an anagram of "Lolita ass".

It strikes me that this is the second photograph lately offered - desperately trying to correct the major mistake made years ago.
Both have altered the angle of the arm and fitted in an elbow, fine, all sorted then. Except it still looks like an adult hand and I've never seen a toddler with spare flesh on the upper arm - and the 18 inch icecream.
Angle of original hand and forearm changed by some 45 degrees.
No, I'm still not a believer, the original had a message, not a very subtle one either. Still has a child sucking on a lolly with a 'naughty girl ' expression and a leaking ice cream added by somebody who wanted it there.

Imo the reason there are so many easily proven photoshopped pictures is because the people who've altered them aren't as good as they think and the 90+% of people aren't very observant. The McCanns certainly aren't.

by Guest 20.05.14 15:25

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
daffodil wrote:
It is a bad pic. very grainy, but thought it might be worth copying here.

That ice cream must be eighteen inches long....

Pointless fact of the day: "Salsalito" is an anagram of "Lolita ass".

Can you actually get ice cream cones as long as that... Looks ridiculous.

I certainly have never seen one that size before.

by bobbin 20.05.14 15:33

Andrew77R wrote:
Clay Regazzoni wrote:
daffodil wrote:
It is a bad pic. very grainy, but thought it might be worth copying here.

That ice cream must be eighteen inches long....

Pointless fact of the day: "Salsalito" is an anagram of "Lolita ass".
Can you actually get ice cream cones as long as that... Looks ridiculous.

I certainly have never seen one that size before.

I wish you could get them that big. They would then maybe last through a whole unconvincing episode of CrimeWatch, well the first half anyway after which you'd be feeling totally sick and not just because of the ice-cream. :bad:

by Guest 20.05.14 16:32

daffodil wrote:

I know there has been a lot of discussion about this photograph. Does the hand with the ice cream belong to Maddie and so on.

I came across this copy on another forum, and it doesn't appear as clipped as others so seems to show her full arm.

It is a bad pic. very grainy, but thought it might be worth copying here.

Poor Madeleine. Three years old and already has bingo wings.

Even though the image is is grainy and an odd angle, the ice-cream arm is much longer than the lolly arm. Her ice-cream wrist is thicker than her lolly wrist as well.

by Guest 20.05.14 16:45

I posted this photo (as strange as many others IMO) because I had never seen it before so just to record it really, I'm not attempting to suggest it is unaltered.

I copy below the date it was posted on another site and the poster's comments. Now how spooky is that bigshock

I have just noticed it was 6 years to the day

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Following accompanied the posting of this photo :
"" 05-20-2008, 02:10 PM

There has been quite the discussion about these pictures on the 3A's forum:
Here is another view showing her arm more clearly:

These photos may (or may not) have been altered. If they have, I have no idea by whom or for what reason. There is also alot of talk about the picture showing eyeliner and lipstick.

You be the judge. ""
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by Guest 20.05.14 16:49

Is there any chance the two images can be put side by side by someone who knows how?
I'm useless, despite all the recent tips I still can't do it.

by Guest 20.05.14 17:00

by Guest 20.05.14 17:01

They look like the arms of a bodybuilder on steroids!

by Guest 20.05.14 17:02

Thank you Poe high5

by Guest 20.05.14 17:04

It looks to be that the lower part of the photograph has been elongated/stretched to fit the arm in.
I've never seen an ice cream cone that shape

by Mirage 20.05.14 17:07

daffodil wrote:

I know there has been a lot of discussion about this photograph. Does the hand with the ice cream belong to Maddie and so on.

I came across this copy on another forum, and it doesn't appear as clipped as others so seems to show her full arm.

It is a bad pic. very grainy, but thought it might be worth copying here.

That ice cream would be more at home on the launch pad at Kennedy Space Center.

by Guest 20.05.14 17:20

Is there a full length version of this picture as well?

If there is, and anyone can tell me where it is, I'll put all three images together.

by worriedmum 20.05.14 17:41

the width of the arm nearest the camera looks almost as wide as her body!

by **tigger** 20.05.14 20:06

worriedmum wrote:the width of the arm nearest the camera looks almost as wide as her body!

If you enlarge the one Poe posted, you'll see around the shoulder strap a much lighter area which may well be the result of pasting an adult arm on the body (reduced in size).
I've commented on the bingo wings years ago. It may be that the icecream didn't fit the picture so a bit more hamfisted adjustments were made by shortening the fore arm and overlooking the fact that now the arm was in fact amputated.

We see knuckles on this hand, on the tennis photo and on the strange left hand in the kitchen photo as well.
In the last one the colour of the arm changes abruptly from the elbow on.

by roy rovers 20.05.14 20:30

The upper part of the supposedly badly photoshopped arm is a pink ribbon on her dress surely?

by Hicks 20.05.14 21:09

Madeleine definitely has red lipstick on as well as black eye make up. Either that, or it has been added later.

The cone is way two long, it looks like two have been put together in order to make it appear longer.

Now why would any parent, who believed their four year old daughter might in the hands of some vile paedophile gang, put out a photo like that?

by ultimaThule 20.05.14 21:42

tigger wrote:
worriedmum wrote:the width of the arm nearest the camera looks almost as wide as her body!

If you enlarge the one Poe posted, you'll see around the shoulder strap a much lighter area which may well be the result of pasting an adult arm on the body (reduced in size).
I've commented on the bingo wings years ago. It may be that the icecream didn't fit the picture so a bit more hamfisted adjustments were made by shortening the fore arm and overlooking the fact that now the arm was in fact amputated.

We see knuckles on this hand, on the tennis photo and on the strange left hand in the kitchen photo as well.
In the last one the colour of the arm changes abruptly from the elbow on.

Copied from the "favorite" trousers thread:

murat - What was so special about Burgau? - Page 14 06-05-07-Mail

On the subject of 'knuckles' the way Kate is wielding that knife is a scary sight. Is that a shadow on the upper part of the blade?

by Guest 20.05.14 22:03

Does anyone else think that the dress Madeleine is wearing in the ice cream photo is the same as the one in the photo of her lying down looking back?

I am hopeless at posting photos and they need to be seen together. It did occur to me that as both photos are unsuitable and suggestive for a 3 year old maybe they were taken close together, same day, same photographer?

I must add that I think the one of Maddie lying down is shown (briefly) to be framed on GM's desk in the Jon Corner video, and if I'm right seems an inappropriate photo of one's missing daughter to display.
Only my opinion of course, and I may have got it all wrong.

by HelenMeg 20.05.14 22:30

Mirage wrote:
daffodil wrote:

I know there has been a lot of discussion about this photograph. Does the hand with the ice cream belong to Maddie and so on.

I came across this copy on another forum, and it doesn't appear as clipped as others so seems to show her full arm.

It is a bad pic. very grainy, but thought it might be worth copying here.
That ice cream would be more at home on the launch pad at Kennedy Space Center.

that really made me laugh

by sallypelt 29.07.14 19:35

ROSA wrote:According to other records in the file the Police record that the Polish couple are staying at the Solimar apartments in Burgau - owned by Peter and Margaret Owen from Cardiff.

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g776012-d529427-r195350984-Luzmar_Villas-Luz_Faro_District_Algarve.html

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NUNO_LOURENCO.htm

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NUNO_LOURENCO.htm#

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/SmartDeals-g312712-Burgau_Faro_District_Algarve-Hotel-Deals.html

Are all these GERMAN connections coincidences. I find it very difficult to believe a word of what Michael Shrimpton says, as he makes some outrageous claims, but is it the right thing to do, to dismiss something completely? After all, he is a barrister, and barristers have SOME credibility...............don't they?

by bubblewrap 29.07.14 19:58

sallypelt wrote:
ROSA wrote:According to other records in the file the Police record that the Polish couple are staying at the Solimar apartments in Burgau - owned by Peter and Margaret Owen from Cardiff.

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g776012-d529427-r195350984-Luzmar_Villas-Luz_Faro_District_Algarve.html

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NUNO_LOURENCO.htm

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NUNO_LOURENCO.htm#

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/SmartDeals-g312712-Burgau_Faro_District_Algarve-Hotel-Deals.html

Are all these GERMAN connections coincidences. I find it very difficult to believe a word of what Michael Shrimpton says, as he makes some outrageous claims, but is it the right thing to do, to dismiss something completely? After all, he is a barrister, and barristers have SOME credibility...............don't they?

Robert Argiz said...
I remember writing before about the background of Christopher Story on intelligence and other matters of interest to those of us seeking the truth. He had deep knowledge of things some folks would rather keep secret, so it wouldn't be a surprise at all if he was in fact murdered. One journalist based in Paris that I exchange mails with sometimes, mentioned something in connection with the death threat that Jose Manuel Barroso, made on him for publishing information about his involvement in the case of Madeleine McCann. If you read Mr. Story's report at his website, you will understand why someone like Mr.Barroso would not let anyone get away with what Story wrote on him, regarding his peadophile activities and the McCann case.

http://whats-going-on-alex.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/christopher-story-death-confirmation-of.html

Shrimpton (MI5) Twisted a credible account....IMO. Like Ive said, far too many Controlled Oppositions involved in this case.

by sallypelt 29.07.14 20:02

sallypelt wrote:
ROSA wrote:According to other records in the file the Police record that the Polish couple are staying at the Solimar apartments in Burgau - owned by Peter and Margaret Owen from Cardiff.

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g776012-d529427-r195350984-Luzmar_Villas-Luz_Faro_District_Algarve.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmYNiwVy72I

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NUNO_LOURENCO.htm#

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/SmartDeals-g312712-Burgau_Faro_District_Algarve-Hotel-Deals.html

Are all these GERMAN connections coincidences. I find it very difficult to believe a word of what Michael Shrimpton says, as he makes some outrageous claims, but is it the right thing to do, to dismiss something completely? After all, he is a barrister, and barristers have SOME credibility...............don't they?

I've edited my earlier post as I posted the PJ file link twice. I meant to post the Michael Shrimpton youtube article (33 seconds) for members to make up their own minds.

by j.rob 30.07.14 16:40

sallypelt wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
ROSA wrote:According to other records in the file the Police record that the Polish couple are staying at the Solimar apartments in Burgau - owned by Peter and Margaret Owen from Cardiff.

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g776012-d529427-r195350984-Luzmar_Villas-Luz_Faro_District_Algarve.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmYNiwVy72I

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NUNO_LOURENCO.htm#

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/SmartDeals-g312712-Burgau_Faro_District_Algarve-Hotel-Deals.html

Are all these GERMAN connections coincidences. I find it very difficult to believe a word of what Michael Shrimpton says, as he makes some outrageous claims, but is it the right thing to do, to dismiss something completely? After all, he is a barrister, and barristers have SOME credibility...............don't they?

I've edited my earlier post as I posted the PJ file link twice. I meant to post the Michael Shrimpton youtube article (33 seconds) for members to make up their own minds.

I wonder what connection, if any, the suspicious Polish couple have with this case?

"They have taken her".

Kate telling the social worker who spoke to her after Madeleine's disappearance that 'a couple' had taken Madeleine.

The parents and friends suggesting that the motive for Madeleine's abduction was paedophilia?

Or just another of those coincidences?

by Moonbathed skin 13.11.15 2:11

Forgive me if this has been pointed out before but after looking at the photograph of the blue eye shadow for quite a while it seems to me like camouflage.

IMO it looks like that poor child has taken a crack on the nose. The bruising from impact has pooled in both her tear troughs (and beyond) and also the upper eyelids.
If you look carefully at Maddie's left (right as we see it) eye you can see the purply pink of relatively new trauma of the bruise creeping above the blue eye shadow on the upper left hand side reaching as far as the eyebrow. There is also a small circular bruise at the right hand corner of her mouth. This along with photoshopping of what looks like bruises on her neck is really quite sickening.

This would explain why the garish and outmoded use of the blue eye shadow was used.

As I said sorry if the possibility of a crack on the nose has been discussed before.

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