Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

by worriedmum 23.02.12 18:53

Could some-one who has a lap-top with a camera in it tell me if this is the same sort of angle a picture would appear if taken on it?

by Look4Maddy 12.03.12 10:50

no, and the quality is to high aswell for it to be off a webcam..

by worriedmum 13.03.12 21:16

If Madeleine was only 90cm tall when this was taken, surely you would have to be practically prostrate to take it! An adult crouching down must be nearly 90cm!

by Hicks 23.08.13 22:13

worriedmum wrote:If Madeleine was only 90cm tall when this was taken, surely you would have to be practically prostrate to take it! An adult crouching down must be nearly 90cm!

This has probably been spotted before though I can't seem to find the topic so apologies.

I was looking at this McCann vid, at 0.04 sec you see a wall, not sure exactly where it is but I guess that it could be somewhere in/near OC, or possibly Luz. It has the same look as the background wall in the make up photo.

What do you think?

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by Guest 23.08.13 22:35

It certainly has been mentioned here somewhere that this unsettling photo could have been taken in PDL.

by **tigger** 24.08.13 5:43

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:It certainly has been mentioned here somewhere that this unsettling photo could have been taken in PDL.

It's in the Burgau (What's so special about Burgau?) topic.

by Guest 24.08.13 9:43

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I too find the photo very unsettling, little girls mess about with make up if they get hold of it, and thats the word mess, I don't believe she applied the make up her self, imo it was put on for her.

Can anybody see a bruise on the right side of her neck?

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This again, not normal, posing?

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Has she been asked to pose or been put in that position, then asked to look at the camera?

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by **tigger** 24.08.13 10:34

The blue eyeshadow could have been shot either by the photographer lying on the ground or by Maddie standing on a chair.

The other photo really annoys me as it is a very grown-up glamour girl pose. Nothing works as well as trying the poses you see for yourself. Sit on the poolside in the same pose, very uncomfortable. imo she was facing to the right not the left.
Floor photo, she is leaning on her elbows, body straight out, in a grown-up this would emphasize the breasts, it's also a rather vulnerable pose. imo. No imo she was told how to sit, and she wears eye make-up in quite a few photographs. It's clear on many that the lower eyelid, which should be skin-coloured, is black. Not natural.

by Guest 24.08.13 10:43

tigger wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:It certainly has been mentioned here somewhere that this unsettling photo could have been taken in PDL.
It's in the Burgau (What's so special about Burgau?) topic.

Just found the topic tigger, interesting thoughts and dicussions.

Thanks for your comments tigger, the more you look at these photos in depth there's more to pick out, I've only just noticed she appears to have a necklace on in the make up photo

by Hicks 24.08.13 11:08

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I too find the photo very unsettling, little girls mess about with make up if they get hold of it, and thats the word mess, I don't believe she applied the make up her self, imo it was put on for her.

Can anybody see a bruise on the right side of her neck?

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This again, not normal, posing?

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Has she been asked to pose or been put in that position, then asked to look at the camera?
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You are right Cherry Blossom about a neck bruise, her whole face seems an odd colour, there is a tear stain down the left side of her face, on the right cheek another bruise perhaps?

Another thought is that this is the face of M shortly after death, the discolouration in her face could be due to the death process, the glassy stare looks right past you.

by coppernob 24.08.13 11:19

Morning all. I normally read and don't comment much but as it hasn't been mentioned yet thought i'd chip in with my thoughts on that disturbing photo. I may be wrong but the ears look way too low, surely they should be higher.
I can not understand why this photo was released and how the likes of SY and Gamble didn't have alarm bells ringing when it was.

by joyce1938 24.08.13 11:23

It really looks to me as if she may have slight makeup over face ,then the blue of eyelids appear to be smudged down one cheek and may even be I bit on neck ,maybe from her hands ,if applied by kids ,it can be in all odd spots ,she looks like a child who just could be used to posing ,or not . joyce1938

by Hicks 24.08.13 11:27

coppernob wrote:Morning all. I normally read and don't comment much but as it hasn't been mentioned yet thought i'd chip in with my thoughts on that disturbing photo. I may be wrong but the ears look way too low, surely they should be higher.
I can not understand why this photo was released and how the likes of SY and Gamble didn't have alarm bells ringing when it was.

Goodness! You are right, I have never noticed that before, they are definitely not in the right place .....how could this be?

by coppernob 24.08.13 12:07

Morning Hicks and Joyce

Her head is tipped slightly back in an almost defiant pose in that photo, I don't think that would account for such low set ears. Nothing seems natural about that picture and I can not understand why you would release a photo like it unless this really is the last picture taken of Madeleine and if so, what was the thinking around it?

by joyce1938 24.08.13 12:30

Hi coppernob, thanks for your reply . I wonder about a lot that th ese parents have made so available to all to see. One thought is they had no sense ,but another time I just think maybe they are being clever ,to keep everyone interested in their life and it helps to keep us from finding out ,real stuff that just might sense to us ,so its maybe to keep us busy on all the wrong things . and it works too I think .joyce1938

by Angelique 24.08.13 12:34

I have also thought this picture of Madeleine with blue eyeshadow odd. On what would be her right side of her neck, half way down it looks as though her head has been fixed to the neck of someone else. It's a sort 'nick' in the line. Is it possible that it was another picture of Madeleine that has been photoshopped onto some else? It could explain the strange angle but I am puzzled by ears and what the explanation could be, but they certainly don't look right.

by Guest 24.08.13 12:41

I placed my PC magnifer over the make up photo, her eyes do look unimotional no love no fear just nothing. I tend to agree about her ears they do seem too low, they also imo seem too big. Maybe someone has a explanation why because I can't. Only just noticed the bobble in her hair

I've not noticed the nick in the line Angelique, gonna have another look.

by Guest 24.08.13 12:48

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This horrible photo was used in the 2010 anniversary video and seems even worse in my opinion in conjunction with other ones of Madeleine in make-up.

by Guest 24.08.13 12:53

Angelique wrote:I have also thought this picture of Madeleine with blue eyeshadow odd. On what would be her right side of her neck, half way down it looks as though her head has been fixed to the neck of someone else. It's a sort 'nick' in the line. Is it possible that it was another picture of Madeleine that has been photoshopped onto some else? It could explain the strange angle but I am puzzled by ears and what the explanation could be, but they certainly don't look right.

Yes there is a line just above the beads and further up there seems to be a small indent, could be photoshopped if it is again why?

Don't know if I've seen video NFWTD, will have a look.

by whmon 24.08.13 12:57

I don't see anything wrong with the ears, I think it is only because of the angle of the shot that they appear to be too low.

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If you look at the blue on the right of the make up photo - it is exactly the same shade as the blue rim of the cot. Did the cot belong to the apartment? I think it did as they requested cots to be in the room.

by whmon 24.08.13 12:58

Sorry about duplicating the above photo.

by Guest 24.08.13 12:58

Why has the skirting board photo been turned around to show a different angle I wonder?? It has been turned to look as if Madeleine is standing up, with Missing Madeleine McCann underneath, where did it appear like this?

by Guest 24.08.13 13:09

As far as I know, it appeared like that only in this video with the camera panning to give a moving image impression.

whmon, I agree about the shade of blue but I doubt that it's a cot. It looks more like the back of a plastic chair or possibly the right shoulder of someone in a T-shirt sitting down.

by Guest 24.08.13 13:20

candyfloss wrote:Why has the skirting board photo been turned around to show a different angle I wonder?? It has been turned to look as if Madeleine is standing up, with Missing Madeleine McCann underneath, where did it appear like this?

I've only seen it again in the video, it must be one supplied by the McCanns making it appear it was a seperate photo

by whmon 24.08.13 13:31

Cherry Blossom wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Why has the skirting board photo been turned around to show a different angle I wonder?? It has been turned to look as if Madeleine is standing up, with Missing Madeleine McCann underneath, where did it appear like this?
I've only seen it again in the video, it must be one supplied by the McCanns making it appear it was a seperate photo

I wonder why they would need to do that? To make a photo appear as if it was a separate photo implies that they have few photos of her, and for parents to have limited photos of a small child implies they weren't very interested in her. I know that I have hundreds of photos of my son aged 3 and under - and that was in the days when you had to go out and buy film for a camera then go out again to have them printed off!

As the eldest child of a couple who then had twins - I understand exactly what was going on with them and Madeleine. Madeleine was simply in the way.

by Guest 24.08.13 13:32

Cherry Blossom wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Why has the skirting board photo been turned around to show a different angle I wonder?? It has been turned to look as if Madeleine is standing up, with Missing Madeleine McCann underneath, where did it appear like this?
I've only seen it again in the video, it must be one supplied by the McCanns making it appear it was a seperate photo

Well, it clearly is titled along the bottom, so you may be right.

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by Sceneset 24.08.13 13:39

I don't think the blue colour on the right is the cot edge. It is the same colour but the cot is 'cut away' on the corners. The shot is in my opinion definitely an outdoor shot judging by the tone/ lighting.

There is a balcony photo of another apartment in the files? that shows a blue chair by the pebble dash/ rough outside buildings' wall that matches ths colour exactly. I think it was taken on the balcony of another apartment.

by joyce1938 24.08.13 13:47

yes I recall some talk on here about that it an outside pic. and whats more its a chair there too if I recall o k , and some felyt it could be in the Bergue apartment ,I may not have this precise ,but not in their regular apt . joyce1938

by Sceneset 24.08.13 13:54

I'll try and find it later, thank you for the 'Bergue' clue, I may need that!

by Guest 24.08.13 13:55

whmon, you could be right about Madeleine being in the way, imo she was ok untill the twins were born.

NFWTD, agree it could be part of a chair

What do you think whmon?

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joyce1938, Sceneset is this the one?