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Post by Verdi on 03.10.19 22:15

Russell O'Brien rogatory

We were taken out of the airport and out onto the buses waiting nearby, we sat in the middle of the coach on the right hand side.  I recall that Charlotte PENNINGTON who was a nanny at Mark Warner was also sat on the bus- I believe that she looked after Fiona and Dave’s kids.

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

Charlotte Pennington, the fantasist, wasn't included on Mark Warner's initial list of seasonal workers for the summer of 2007, as her late arrival in Portugal I think would confirm.  Her name appeared later.

Charlotte Pennington, in at least one of her contradictory statements/interviews, claimed to have been a qualified childminder and had been working in the UK.

Was she employed at any stage by one of the Tapas group as a nanny?
Did she travel to Portugal with a faction of the group as a babysitter?  
Did she and/or another nanny babysit the group's children throughout that holiday week?  
Does she know at least some of the circumstances surrounding the alleged disappearance of Madeleine McCann?
Was she paid to mislead the investigation?

Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanner again.  Or should that be the other way around as Jane Tanner would appear to be the leading light.

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Post by Verdi on 12.10.19 21:46

Russell O'Brien's witness statement - 11th May 2007

- Questioned whether problems exist between the couples, between each couple or with third parties, be these questions of professionalism or sentimental ones, or vices, states that he does not know of any.

Each couple has been together for many years and one of the points they have in common, is that there is an understanding between each couple and the couple between themselves. When he has the opportunity of meeting up with them, they pass time together, conversing and playing activities together, for fun
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Clarifies that the couple with who has done this less is the McCanns, but he also has no knowledge of any strange or complicated situation. He has no knowledge of vices, drugs and/or games, on behalf of anyone in the group.
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Post by Verdi on 12.10.19 21:55


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Post by Verdi on 13.10.19 1:52

Russell O'Brien's rogatory interview - 10th April 2008

On the 3rd May 2007 I saw Madeleine in the morning a couple of times this was when I dropped Ella off. I took the kids up to breakfast at the Millennium club and walked to the Ocean Club I was late getting Ella there, the kids were having a great time at the kids club and all appeared to well. I went to the flat with Evie, whilst she was resting I read a book. When she woke up we went outside to watch Jane play tennis I saw Madeleine at lunchtime I can’t recall if Jane or I collected Ella it’s all a bit hazy now. I recall that Jane had been having a tennis lesson also there was Kate and Rachael.

We were watching some children have their lesson this was before lunch.

I recall that one of the guests a guy from Southampton came over his daughter was playing tennis, he wanted to take a picture but expressed to us how uncomfortable he felt in doing so- he said something similar to feeling like a pervert or a dirty old man when taking a picture of his own child, I do not wish to implicate him. I recall that the child was of a similar age to Madeleine and Ella.

I recall that Madeleine and Ella had had a similar lesson the day before. We agreed that in this day and age taking a photograph of your own child you shouldn’t be made to feel uncomfortable, it was a horrible coincident. I would like to stress that I do not think that this man had any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance. I feel that it was a haunting coincidence.

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Post by crusader on 13.10.19 11:21

I wonder what the understanding was. Anything to do with the pact of silence by any chance. Charlotte Pennington was working for Mark Warner as a nanny in the baby club. If she was also working for 2 of the Tapas 9, and Mark Warner knew this,then Mark Warner was complicit that Maddie was to go missing that week. Mark Warner must have employed her, cant see her turning up and installing herself. Could be a coincidence that she was on the same bus as the O' brien's, or it could just be that Mark Warner was expecting an influx of babies that particular week and she was on standby.
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Post by Verdi on 13.10.19 13:56

On the surface, it certainly seems a very odd thing to say. Trouble is, the interview is not recorded verbatim.  It's difficult enough to make sense out of the Tapas group nonsensical witness statements - worse still the rogatory interviews, without the added confusion of precised documentation.

It's wide open to supposition.

Meanwhile, Charlotte Pennington..

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16384-nigel-moore-a-closer-look-at-charlotte-pennington#402450

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Post by crusader on 13.10.19 14:51

Charlotte Pennington's statement of the 7th may 2007, is probably nearest the truth in my opinion anyway. I once had a close friend who was a semi famous singer/actress. She was also an alcoholic but that's by the by. My point is she was also a fantasist and a liar. These people are not in the real world, because she didn't  have a major part to play, I believe Miss Pennington scripted herself into the drama, reinventing herself more important in every interview she gave.
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Post by Verdi on 13.10.19 21:49

@crusader wrote:Charlotte Pennington's statement of the 7th may 2007, is probably nearest the truth in my opinion anyway. I once had a close friend who was a semi famous singer/actress. She was also an alcoholic but that's by the by. My point is she was also a fantasist and a liar. These people are not in the real world, because she didn't  have a major part to play, I believe Miss Pennington scripted herself into the drama, reinventing herself more important in every interview she gave.

Couldn't agree more.

I still can't fathom how she came to be at the Ocean Club Praia da Luz in the first place, working as (I think she put it) an educator.

Haven't the time at present but it is a subject that has long since intrigued me. Apart from being a fantasist (my view also) the timing of her appearance and the subsequent reliance on her version of events by the media maelstrom raises an eyebrow - if you be a cyclops.

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Post by crusader on 14.10.19 0:58

Ive just read A closer look at Charlotte Pennington by Nigel More, Thanks for that Verdi.

Just a couple of points,  he said Payne's left their2 kids in Maddies club, and twins with Cat Baker. I think Scarlett would have been in baby club with either Charlott or Pauline Mccann. If this is correct, then she would have known D Payne at least by sight.

Collins in his book Vanished, said Jane Tanner and Russell O'Brien were next door to Mccann's. According to the arrivals list, they were in 5D, two doors away.

Charlotte pennington said she was at Mccann's flat within 5 minutes of alarm being raised.

According to Jacqueline Williams, Charlotte remained looking after other children who were waiting to be picked up. When all children were gone, Charlotte helped in the search.

Incidentally as I'm sure you know, Charlotte in her statement said it was 10-15 when an unknown woman came in and told them about  missing child.

I don't believe a word she says.
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Post by ROSA on 17.10.19 6:28


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Leicestershire Police Force
 
Statement by Hayley Jane Plummer
 
Occupation: Nursery School Teacher
 
This statement consisting of two pages is true and in accordance with my understanding.
 
Date 6th May 2008
 
I work as a teacher at Laurels Nursery School, Melton Road, Queniborough, Leicestershire. I have worked full time for almost eight or nine years. I work alone in a class room and have eight children under my responsibility every day.
 
Laurels nursery school receives children aged between 6 weeks and school age and is divided in various classrooms in different buildings, where the children are grouped according to age and aptitude. I have worked in all the classrooms with children of all ages and at the moment I am in charge of children aged from 3 to 5 years.
 
I got to know Madeleine and her parents Kate and Gerry at the nursery school. I also spent time with them socially because my boyfriend James is Kate’s cousin. As a couple, James and I would take care of Madeleine and the twins in their house in Rothley about every two months, for a few hours each time. We would arrive at the house at about 19.00 – 19.30 when the twins were already asleep, but Madeleine was waiting for us and would be up for about half an hour. The routine followed would be to brush her teeth and tell her a story or two before going to sleep, followed by a brief passage through the twins room. Once she was alone Madeleine would generally fall asleep after 10 minutes and during my stays in their house she would never get out of bed after having fallen asleep. She would always sleep in her room. I do not remember Madeleine having been difficult when we were there.
 
Madeleine initially went to the nursery in the mornings but as she got older she would spend the whole day on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at the nursery – which she enjoyed very much. Kate would take care of Madeleine on Mondays and Fridays, often taking her for swimming lessons. I have known Madeleine for about three years and she was always under my responsibility at the Laurels nursery.
 
Kate and Gerry would take turns in dropping off and fetching her from the nursery.
 
Madeline was a very polite and affectionate girl, particularly in respect to the twins. At the nursery she was a very popular girl and it was a pleasure to have her near.
 
She seemed to be a very alert girl and she always adapted well. The only time I remember her feeling a little intimidated was when she changed classroom for the first time and she was placed with more children who were a bit older.
 
She would show some shyness when she was left by her parents but she adapted rapidly so that they would leave after she finished her breakfast.
 
Madeleine made many friends at the nursery but her best friend was Sophia. I think that Kate and Sophia’s mother (Sally) became good friends based upon the friendship between their daughters.
 
Kate and Gerry were always very friendly with me, were polite and easy going.
 
Madeleine never showed any problems or worry she might have had, or show any behaviour that would cause any worry. I do not consider Madeleine to be hyperactive, she was a healthy girl with normal development for her age.
 
For me Madeleine is calm and easy to get on with.
 
I do not know whether Madeleine was subject to any kind of medication, I never had to give her any medication at the nursery or at home when I looked after her.
 
Gerry and Kate never appeared to have any type of problem in their relation with Madeleine. We would have regular meetings with the parents in the nursery and Kate and Gerry did not express any worry about Madeleine or her behaviour and they never appeared to be tired or frustrated in relation to their daughter.
 
I saw Madeleine for the last time on Thursday on the eve of her departure for holiday to Portugal. She was very enthusiastic with the trip, telling the teachers and the other children about it.

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Post by Verdi on 17.10.19 12:06

ROSA, why have you posted a full witness statement on the 'Quote of the Day' thread - and without narrative?

I will move it, or delete as deemed necessary, if you have no good reason.

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Leicestershire Police Force
 
Statement by Hayley Jane Plummer
 
Occupation: Nursery School Teacher
 
This statement consisting of two pages is true and in accordance with my understanding.
 
Date 6th May 2008
 
I work as a teacher at Laurels Nursery School, Melton Road, Queniborough, Leicestershire. I have worked full time for almost eight or nine years. I work alone in a class room and have eight children under my responsibility every day.
 
Laurels nursery school receives children aged between 6 weeks and school age and is divided in various classrooms in different buildings, where the children are grouped according to age and aptitude. I have worked in all the classrooms with children of all ages and at the moment I am in charge of children aged from 3 to 5 years.
 
I got to know Madeleine and her parents Kate and Gerry at the nursery school. I also spent time with them socially because my boyfriend James is Kate’s cousin. As a couple, James and I would take care of Madeleine and the twins in their house in Rothley about every two months, for a few hours each time. We would arrive at the house at about 19.00 – 19.30 when the twins were already asleep, but Madeleine was waiting for us and would be up for about half an hour. The routine followed would be to brush her teeth and tell her a story or two before going to sleep, followed by a brief passage through the twins room. Once she was alone Madeleine would generally fall asleep after 10 minutes and during my stays in their house she would never get out of bed after having fallen asleep. She would always sleep in her room. I do not remember Madeleine having been difficult when we were there.
 
Madeleine initially went to the nursery in the mornings but as she got older she would spend the whole day on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at the nursery – which she enjoyed very much. Kate would take care of Madeleine on Mondays and Fridays, often taking her for swimming lessons. I have known Madeleine for about three years and she was always under my responsibility at the Laurels nursery.
 
Kate and Gerry would take turns in dropping off and fetching her from the nursery.
 
Madeline was a very polite and affectionate girl, particularly in respect to the twins. At the nursery she was a very popular girl and it was a pleasure to have her near.
 
She seemed to be a very alert girl and she always adapted well. The only time I remember her feeling a little intimidated was when she changed classroom for the first time and she was placed with more children who were a bit older.
 
She would show some shyness when she was left by her parents but she adapted rapidly so that they would leave after she finished her breakfast.
 
Madeleine made many friends at the nursery but her best friend was Sophia. I think that Kate and Sophia’s mother (Sally) became good friends based upon the friendship between their daughters.
 
Kate and Gerry were always very friendly with me, were polite and easy going.
 
Madeleine never showed any problems or worry she might have had, or show any behaviour that would cause any worry. I do not consider Madeleine to be hyperactive, she was a healthy girl with normal development for her age.
 
For me Madeleine is calm and easy to get on with.
 
I do not know whether Madeleine was subject to any kind of medication, I never had to give her any medication at the nursery or at home when I looked after her.
 
Gerry and Kate never appeared to have any type of problem in their relation with Madeleine. We would have regular meetings with the parents in the nursery and Kate and Gerry did not express any worry about Madeleine or her behaviour and they never appeared to be tired or frustrated in relation to their daughter.
 
I saw Madeleine for the last time on Thursday on the eve of her departure for holiday to Portugal. She was very enthusiastic with the trip, telling the teachers and the other children about it.
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