Pike, Michael Wright and too many coincidences

by windchime 20.09.13 11:26

Have been having a look into who exactly this Michael Wright is after the active thread regarding the photo CDs and the videocam.

Came across a thread posted by TB back in 2011 that is now locked but under the heading 'The Role of Michael Wright'. I am sure that nearly all of you will have read this thread but for those of you who haven't and as it also mentions Pike and the institution he works for along with some very odd coincidences - even more to add to the ever growing number this case seems to throw up - I thought it might make good reading again.

Coincidences regarding names:

Hubbard - priestly friends and Hubbard - holiday home owners in PDL - supposedly not related - believable on its own.
McCann - Kate & Gerry and McCann Ruth - owner of holiday home that the McCanns were given to stay in - supposedly not related - believable on its own.
Michael Wright - Kates cousins husband and named driver of vehicle in PDL and Michael Wright - previous named driver of same hire car a few weeks before - not related - maybe believable on its own.

BUT add the three together all connected to this sorry saga and three coincidences of this nature are too many to be coincidental - just how many more people connected to the McCanns can have the same names (Christian and/or surnames) and there not be some connection?? Baffling!! nah

by ultimaThule 20.09.13 14:46

I've wonder about these curious coincidences too. I'm sure I've read somewhere that the owner of 5a is/was a teacher - as are Ma Healy and Phil.

There's also the fact that the Hubbards are Canadian and it's been mentioned somewhere that the McCanns' former nanny - the one who was due to accompany them to Luz but left their employment shortly before the departure date - also hailed from Canada.

by Guest 20.09.13 15:07

ultimaThule wrote:I've wonder about these curious coincidences too. I'm sure I've read somewhere that the owner of 5a is/was a teacher - as are Ma Healy and Phil.

There's also the fact that the Hubbards are Canadian and it's been mentioned somewhere that the McCanns' former nanny - the one who was due to accompany them to Luz but left their employment shortly before the departure date - also hailed from Canada.

McCanns Aunt Nora also from Canada, where they have visited.

by windchime 20.09.13 15:50

Candyfloss, I don't know the legal 'workings' of the forum or why a thread is locked but if it is at all possible, could you perhaps unlock the thread mentioned above regarding Michael Wright especially as he is being discussed regarding the photos on the CD and now that he is giving witness statements? I will understand if you can't and are not at liberty to say why.

by Guest 20.09.13 16:07

windchime wrote:Candyfloss, I don't know the legal 'workings' of the forum or why a thread is locked but if it is at all possible, could you perhaps unlock the thread mentioned above regarding Michael Wright especially as he is being discussed regarding the photos on the CD and now that he is giving witness statements? I will understand if you can't and are not at liberty to say why.

Can you give me a link windchime and will have a look.

by windchime 20.09.13 16:13

Thanks candyfloss the title of the thread is

Madeleine McCann - The Role of Michael Wright

It is also the first related link at the bottom of this page. Hope this helps!

by Guest 20.09.13 16:32

windchime wrote:Thanks candyfloss the title of the thread is

Madeleine McCann - The Role of Michael Wright

It is also the first related link at the bottom of this page. Hope this helps!

The reason it is locked is because it is in the research and analysis library, they are not meant for discussion. They are purely for people to read for research purposes. If you look at the top it actually say that, and most of the threads are locked, unfortunately it all went awry in the last few threads and needs tidying up...........one day big grin

So no, in answer to the question, I can't really unlock it, sorry.

by russiandoll 20.09.13 16:45

ultimaThule wrote:I've wonder about these curious coincidences too. I'm sure I've read somewhere that the owner of 5a is/was a teacher - as are Ma Healy and Phil.

There's also the fact that the Hubbards are Canadian and it's been mentioned somewhere that the McCanns' former nanny - the one who was due to accompany them to Luz but left their employment shortly before the departure date - also hailed from Canada.

Can you tell me where you got the info re Kate's mother and teaching? Retired now if so, I would think, given her daughter is in her mid 40s. I knew about Philomena but have never heard about Mrs Healy.

by Guest 20.09.13 17:24

No I've never heard that about Susan Healy either but her brother Brian Kennedy (not the window man) is a retired head teacher.

A reminder of Michael Wright's early support for the family's business enterprise.

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by Hicks 20.09.13 17:50

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:No I've never heard that about Susan Healy either but her brother Brian Kennedy (not the window man) is a retired head teacher.

A reminder of Michael Wright's early support for the family's business enterprise.

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Ruth McCann is a retired teacher.....from Liverpool!

by Guest 20.09.13 17:54

I think that Ruth McCann may genuinely have nothing to do with her infamous namesakes.

She is a McCann only by marriage and her husband Michael (who died in 2006) came from the West Country, I think.

by Hicks 20.09.13 18:02

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I think that Ruth McCann may genuinely have nothing to do with her infamous namesakes.

She is a McCann only by marriage and her husband Michael (who died in 2006) came from the West Country, I think.

More than likely.. still....it would be interesting to know where in exactly Liverpool she taught.
Does anyone know?

by russiandoll 20.09.13 21:43

UK Justice Forum ‏@Justice_forum 2h
#McCann v Amaral libel. Crisis counsellor Alan Pike tells court Gerry left his work to look after Kate following publication of Amaral book

by ultimaThule 20.09.13 22:56

russiandoll wrote:UK Justice Forum ‏@Justice_forum 2h
#McCann v Amaral libel. Crisis counsellor Alan Pike tells court Gerry left his work to look after Kate following publication of Amaral book

Did Pike say if Gerry left at his usual time or skived off early ~~to work out how he and his missus could sue for libel without reading the book~~?

by Guest 21.09.13 1:30

russiandoll wrote:UK Justice Forum ‏@Justice_forum 2h
#McCann v Amaral libel. Crisis counsellor Alan Pike tells court Gerry left his work to look after Kate following publication of Amaral book

1, Has he witnessed GM leaving his workplace;
2. how late did he see GM leaving his workplace;
3. Where did he see GM go after leaving his workplace?

Which date, please, all of the above?

FCS: have all of the Mecs witlesses been promised a cut of the pie, a no cure no pay deal?

This is UK thinking in a Continental court case.

It just makes one want to throw up

by ultimaThule 21.09.13 2:14

Portia wrote:
russiandoll wrote:UK Justice Forum ‏@Justice_forum 2h
#McCann v Amaral libel. Crisis counsellor Alan Pike tells court Gerry left his work to look after Kate following publication of Amaral book
1, Has he witnessed GM leaving his workplace;
2. how late did he see GM leaving his workplace;
3. Where did he see GM go after leaving his workplace?

Which date, please, all of the above?

FCS: have all of the Mecs witlesses been promised a cut of the pie, a no cure no pay deal?

This is UK thinking in a Continental court case.

It just makes one want to throw up

Reading the emotive fiction which numerous of TMs' witnesses have sworn on oath to in a Court of Law leaves me wondering whether to grab the sick bucket or the brain bleach.

Isn't perjury a serious offence in Portugal? Or is it that the McCanns' witnesses believe themselves to be above Portuguese law because their paymasters were so easily able to ~~shaft the system~~ evade the justice that should have been rightfully meted out to them for child neglect, if not more serious charges, in 2007?

by russiandoll 21.09.13 9:38

It will be easily verifiable that Gerry McCann took a compassionate leave of absence. He works for a government agency and these are readily granted as I have witnessed, having worked in a GA myself.

I would imagine that documentary evidence of this and the abduction threat to the twins [ never heard of the 3a forum until I joined here 2 years ago] which was possibly some sick twisted cynical joke has also been handed to the court. The judge is not going to accept these claims without evidence.

by ultimaThule 21.09.13 18:30

From the current available transcript of Pike's testimonyi it would seem Gerry 'quit work' as a consultant cardiologist and at some subsequent point in time began working with/on a 'research project'.

Pike's testimony appears to imply that the documentary which followed publication of Dr Amaral's book caused the saintly one to sustain 'secondary trauma' which in turn resulted in Gerry 'leaving work' and also gave rise to anti-McCann websites and the alleged threat to kidnap one or t'other of the twins.

by **tigger** 21.09.13 18:37

ultimaThule wrote:From the current available transcript of Pike's testimonyi it would seem Gerry 'quit work' as a consultant cardiologist and at some subsequent point in time began working with/on a 'research project'.

Pike's testimony appears to imply that the documentary which followed publication of Dr Amaral's book caused the saintly one to sustain 'secondary trauma' which in turn resulted in Gerry 'leaving work' and also gave rise to anti-McCann websites and the alleged threat to kidnap one or t'other of the twins.

Imo relieving Gerry from his commitments was a purely humanitarian gesture. As far away from patients as possible.
As for te shark-eyed one to comfort Kate.... Attila the Hun would be preferable?

by ultimaThule 22.09.13 1:13

tigger wrote:
ultimaThule wrote:From the current available transcript of Pike's testimonyi it would seem Gerry 'quit work' as a consultant cardiologist and at some subsequent point in time began working with/on a 'research project'.

Pike's testimony appears to imply that the documentary which followed publication of Dr Amaral's book caused the saintly one to sustain 'secondary trauma' which in turn resulted in Gerry 'leaving work' and also gave rise to anti-McCann websites and the alleged threat to kidnap one or t'other of the twins.
Imo relieving Gerry from his commitments was a purely humanitarian gesture. As far away from patients as possible.
As for te shark-eyed one to comfort Kate.... Attila the Hun would be preferable

IMO Gerry's career is worthy of scrutiny. It seems at one point he aspired to become a surgeon but he then switched to cardiology, a medical specialty in which he would undertake ward rounds/hold clinics etc but would not wield a scalpel. Did he not make the grade?

As I understand it, he rose to the highest level of consultant cardiologist but is now working on a 'research project', which seems to suggest he's been relegated to the ~~back room~~ laboratory. Was his name causing embarrassment to whichever NHS Trust he was employed by? Were patients voting with their feet rather than be treated by Dr McCrippen?

You've got it spot on about the shark eyes, tigger. I agree - an evening with Attila, or Hitler or Stalin for that matter, would be preferable to being in Gerry's company for any longer than was strictly necessary and Jeremy Paxman's body language when he came face to face with Dr McCann indicated he was of the same opinion.

by **tigger** 22.09.13 7:58

ultimaThule wrote:
tigger wrote:
ultimaThule wrote:From the current available transcript of Pike's testimonyi it would seem Gerry 'quit work' as a consultant cardiologist and at some subsequent point in time began working with/on a 'research project'.

Pike's testimony appears to imply that the documentary which followed publication of Dr Amaral's book caused the saintly one to sustain 'secondary trauma' which in turn resulted in Gerry 'leaving work' and also gave rise to anti-McCann websites and the alleged threat to kidnap one or t'other of the twins.
Imo relieving Gerry from his commitments was a purely humanitarian gesture. As far away from patients as possible.
As for te shark-eyed one to comfort Kate.... Attila the Hun would be preferable
IMO Gerry's career is worthy of scrutiny. It seems at one point he aspired to become a surgeon but he then switched to cardiology, a medical specialty in which he would undertake ward rounds/hold clinics etc but would not wield a scalpel. Did he not make the grade?

As I understand it, he rose to the highest level of consultant cardiologist but is now working on a 'research project', which seems to suggest he's been relegated to the ~~back room~~ laboratory. Was his name causing embarrassment to whichever NHS Trust he was employed by? Were patients voting with their feet rather than be treated by Dr McCrippen?

You've got it spot on about the shark eyes, tigger. I agree - an evening with Attila, or Hitler or Stalin for that matter, would be preferable to being in Gerry's company for any longer than was strictly necessary and Jeremy Paxman's body language when he came face to face with Dr McCann indicated he was of the same opinion.

Imo Gerry is at best mediocre in his field. I've read some of his work, the MRI cardiology study written with others and some are more like passable A level efforts. Top of his field? Nowhere near. If you want a good laugh have a look at doctor Gerry in the video 'Madeleine was here' .
I'm inclined to think he scraped through and had a bit of help in the form of 'connections' seeing that he obviously still had a few of similar helpful connections in 2007 .

by Guest 22.09.13 9:39

To be fair: around the time of the May 3 debacle he had been working very hard to get a grant for a research project. IIRC he did get the money, but I cannot find details anymore as to the subject of the project and the money & time involved ...

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2013
Dr G McCann
Clinical Evaluation of 3T Magnetic Resonance Imaging for the Management of Patients with Coronary Heart Disease: The CE-MARC2 study
£60,000 British Heart Foundation

2008
Dr G McCann
Professor L Ng, Professor N Samani, Dr I Squire
Contribution to LVH and diastolic dysfunction assessed by myocardial tissue tagging to symptoms and exercise intolerance in severe aortic stenosis
£149,583 British Heart Foundation

by russiandoll 22.09.13 14:05

Trawling through online reporting after googling words like Kate, depressed, dark thoughts I came across this, from as far back as Autumn 2007. Interesting, the reason given for the measures which were taken :

Police fit panic buttons in McCanns' home for protection
Last updated at 16:04 28 October 2007

Panic buttons have been installed in the home of Kate and Gerry McCann, it was revealed today.
The couple have had the security measure installed at their house in Rothley since they arrived back from Portugal seven weeks ago, amid fears their high-publicity campaign for their daughter could attract cranks, or even more sinister attention.
The buttons can send an emergency message to the police, who would send a high-speed response car to the house where the couple live with their two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie.

What did Mr Pike say about publicity and trauma? Who has carried on allowing CM to make statements on their behalf even up until recently?
So, not only did they choose to ignore police advice re publicising the eye defect for their child's sake, they have chosen, despite trauma, fear, dark thoughts extending to feeling suicidal.....to carry on with publicity.
Given that is the case, how can the trauma be that affecting?
All of these feelings and fears pre-date GA's book, they are going to have to make a very good case that they were exacerbated by it as well as prove that they had their reputations trashed as a result.
Imo their reputations went down the pan as soon as people learnt of the circumstances of the disappearance.
People I know base their opinions on how they see this couple behave and none have read a word of GA's theory.

It is sad to read that people are so anguished that they feel suicidal, but I believe there was a multiplicity of reasons for Kate's emotional fragility.

by Rufus T 22.09.13 19:02

I have noticed the name Michael Wright being mentioned a lot in the past few days and so was reaquainting myself with his rog. statement. One line just kept jumping out at me

"I wasn't in Portugal on 3 May at the time of Madeleine's disappearance. About 23:00 that night I received a very uncomfortable [or compelling] call from my wife's mother who told me about Madeleine's disappearance. "

Why does he feel the need to tell us he wasn't in Portugal at the time? Did someone suggest that he was?

It seems an odd thing to say, or perhaps it's just me - any thoughts?

by Guest 22.09.13 19:10

Rufus T wrote:I have noticed the name Michael Wright being mentioned a lot in the past few days and so was reaquainting myself with his rog. statement. One line just kept jumping out at me

"I wasn't in Portugal on 3 May at the time of Madeleine's disappearance. About 23:00 that night I received a very uncomfortable [or compelling] call from my wife's mother who told me about Madeleine's disappearance. "

Why does he feel the need to tell us he wasn't in Portugal at the time? Did someone suggest that he was?

It seems an odd thing to say, or perhaps it's just me - any thoughts?

Hi Rufus T, I have merged your thread with this one, the Research and Analysis Library is purely for Research posts to be read, and therefore no discussion in there.