Re: Letter from Madeleine Foundation to Clarence Mitchell

by vaguely1 04.05.10 19:35

Where did you study the matter?

And as a mod is there really any need for your overly aggressive and dismissive attitude?

by Judge Mental 04.05.10 19:42

vaguely1 wrote ................. 'And as a mod is there really any need for your overly aggressive and dismissive attitude?'

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This seems like another somewhat sweeping statement. I will refrain from answering lest we waste any more time. I have noted what you have stated and in future I will try my damnedest not to sound like Gerald McCann outside a court in Portugal.

by vaguely1 04.05.10 19:43

But where did you study the matter?

by Judge Mental 04.05.10 19:53

I would like to say once again that Tony Bennett's letters have had an enormous impact this week. clapping1

by vaguely1 04.05.10 19:55

Would you mind editing your post 2 above - you appear to have edited rather than quoted.

ty.

by vaguely1 04.05.10 20:00

You slammed down two other posters, and then claimed you had studied paedophile behaviour. You are the only person who has claimed to have made a study in to these things.

If you're unwilling to share the source of your expertise then maybe it's better not to claim to have more of an idea than other posters under the guise of study.

jmho.

Margarine - bleurgh. I don't believe in a higher being. I don't have a car.

by Judge Mental 04.05.10 20:13

[quote="vaguely1"]But where did you study the matter?[quote]

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Do you prefer butter or marge? Do you believe in God? And may I have your car registration details please? Thank you.

big grin

by Judge Mental 04.05.10 20:33

It is safe to say that there are many who walk amongst us who have expertise in many subjects including this one. The folly would be in discussing any of this in detail as this would ultimately attract the attention of people who engage in this kind of behaviour.

Meanwhile I think we should strike whilst the iron is hot and get Tony Bennett's letters publicised as widely as possible. Especially as the mainstream press and a leading paedophile expert by the name of Mark Williams Thomas are showing that they agree with him for once.

Jordan's sister put pictures of Princess on the internet and both the press and the nation went into shock. Yet it is sanctioned with authority when the McCanns do the same.

Parents have their children taken off them if they go out dining and drinking leaving toddlers alone. Yet it is seemingly sanctioned by all authorities where the Tapas 9 are concerned.

Some would say we have a two-tiered class system. Please don't try and get me onto the subject of sociology, poliitics or economics because of that sentence. Thank you.

by kangdang 04.05.10 21:37

I have studied the matter Vaguely1, and I continue to study it at a reputable University. Believe me, sweeping generalisations such as Rainbow’s would certainly be deemed as ‘ridiculous’ in my faculty. I prefer to say uneducated, but as the Judge has often said I am too kind at times.

If you or anyone else would like to gain insight into the diverse nature of paedophiles, I suggest Dennis Howitt’s (1995), Paedophiles and sexual offences against children, Publisher J. Wiley, as a first port of call.

The book provides a wide variety of perspectives on adult-child sexual contacts, including those less hostile to paedophiles. Inside you will find extensive, in-depth, case histories & interviews, providing rich and detailed insight into offenders & their lifestyles. You will also find that the criminogenic role of sexual fantasy & pornography in sexual offences against children is discussed in unprecedented detail. And comprehensive accounts of assessment, treatment & theoretical issues in offending. I am sure any half decent library would be able to obtain a copy.

Happy reading.

by kangdang 04.05.10 21:41

[quote]Some would say we have a two-tiered class system. Please don't try and get me onto the subject of sociology, poliitics or economics because of that sentence. Thank you.[quote]

The class system is a 'zombie class' according to Beck...lol

by Judge Mental 04.05.10 21:58

kangdang wrote .............. '......treatment & theoretical issues in offending.'

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Anything attributed to Gamble or Harman there? lol!

by kangdang 04.05.10 22:02

Nope 'fraid not. Plenty on recidivism rates & Marshall’s aversion therapy...now there is a thought - lets shock some balls!!!

by Judge Mental 04.05.10 22:39

kangdang wrote .............. 'lets shock some balls!!!'

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wow

As opposed to treating people amongst their own families in their own homes? After all, what is the harm in just looking at the sort of pictures we have just been treated to in the media via the McCanns?

by Rainbow 04.05.10 22:40

Judge Mental,I would REALLY appreciate it if you weren't so rude in future.If I was wrong then I was wrong but there are politer ways of telling someone.Thank you.

by Judge Mental 05.05.10 0:36

Rainbow wrote ............. 'If I was wrong then I was wrong but there are politer ways of telling someone.'

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This is how I imagine the Tapas 9 would want to reply to our criticisms.

To be on the safe side, may I suggest that you do not make further generalisations about subjects of which you have no knowledge.

Some people may have read your comment and thought it to be true. I think we have seen enough mis-information and obfuscation in this case to date, without any of us us joining in and sounding like we are the sort of people who would say that shutters had been jemmied when they haven't.

by Laffin Assasin 05.05.10 0:53

[quote="Rainbow"]Judge Mental,I would REALLY appreciate it if you weren't so rude in future.If I was wrong then I was wrong but there are politer ways of telling someone.Thank you.[quote]

Have you taken over Vaugley's normal role ?

by Judge Mental 05.05.10 1:04

[quote="Laffin Assasin"][quote="Rainbow"]Judge Mental,I would REALLY appreciate it if you weren't so rude in future.If I was wrong then I was wrong but there are politer ways of telling someone.Thank you.[quote]

Have you taken over Vaugley's normal role ?[quote]

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laugh

Are these two the moderators of the moderators? thinking

by vaguely1 05.05.10 7:52

Surely there's no need for such a role? Wink

I find your way of replying to members posts in the words of other people most interesting.

by **Jill Havern** 05.05.10 8:14

Can we leave Rainbow alone now please?

by Rainbow 05.05.10 8:27

Thank you Jill x

by Laffin Assasin 20.05.10 11:57

mitchell has a new job.

by **Jill Havern** 20.05.10 13:19

A trio of senior Conservative Party operatives have signed up with PR agencies, while others prepare to take jobs in Downing Street and government departments..

New posts: Clarence Mitchell and George Bridges
PRWeek can reveal that Lewis PR has hired Clarence Mitchell to be director of media strategy and public affairs. Mitchell, best known for providing PR support to the family of Madeleine McCann, was employed to run the Conservative Party's media monitoring unit during the general election.

Huntsworth-owned lobbying firm Quiller has also persuaded heavy-hitting Tory strategist George Bridges to return to the fold - six months after Bridges quit to help George Osborne run the party's general election campaign.

Another Tory to move into the agency world this week is Graham Hook, assistant director in the Conservative Party's research department, who also managed David Cameron's 'briefing team'. Hook becomes senior consultant at lobbying firm Politics International.

Headhunters expect more Tories to make the move into PR and lobbying in the next few weeks, as the set-up at Downing Street and in government departments becomes clearer. Among those set to take key roles in Downing Street are Tory comms director Andy Coulson, strategy director Steve Hilton, head of policy James O'Shaughnessy and chief of staff Ed Llewellyn.

It is also understood Tory press officers Caroline Preston and Alan Sendorek have been offered jobs in the Downing Street press office, but it is not known whether they have accepted. One Tory insider said that a number of aides had discussed setting up their own agency and were still considering the venture as PRWeek went to press. Other Tory staffers will become special advisers in government departments.

TORY LEAVERS

Clarence Mitchell - Ex-BBC journalist rose to fame handling media for the McCann family. Left Freuds in March 2010 to run Tories' media monitoring unit

George Bridges - Ex-Tory campaigns director quit for lobbying firm Quiller in 2007. Lured back late last year to help run election campaign

Graham Hook - Became assistant director in Tory research department in 2009.

http://www.prweek.com/channel/PublicAffairs/article/1004247/agencies-swoop-sign-senior-conservative-aides-/

by Judge Mental 21.05.10 10:23

Mitchell appears to be more and more of a KGB-style figure as each day passes by.

The secrets this man must carry.

by baconbutty 21.05.10 10:33

Those secrets have certainly afforded him a Teflon coat up 'til now.
And a charmed life.

As they say in my part of the world:

"If he fell off t'Co-op roof, he'd land in t'divi 'oil."

by Judge Mental 21.05.10 11:24

@baconbutty ................ Letter from Madeleine Foundation to Clarence Mitchell - Page 2 110921

Death certainly pays dividends if Mitchell's career is anything to go by Letter from Madeleine Foundation to Clarence Mitchell - Page 2 110921

The man is like a Triffid the way he flourishes and thrives on death. Having read your post, I am now reminded of a Gracie Fields song about the biggest aspidistra in the world and another about a wheel that turns a cog that works the thingymagig. Which just about sums Mitchell up.

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