Webmaster told not to remove Tannerman

by sallypelt 07.12.13 17:26

These are interesting tweets from Jon Tait.

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Interesting email exchange with OFM webmaster, backs up what [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] said last week. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] 1/4 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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One will have to read the tweets for themselves, as I don't know how to copy and paste the full text.

Here is the link:

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by margaret 07.12.13 18:06

Thanks sallypelt and well done for asking Jon Tait. Wonder WHO told that person 'NOT' to remove tanner man from the site?

by NickE 07.12.13 18:13

They probably trying to draw attention away from the "GM" e-fit to the non existent "Tannerman ".

by tiny 07.12.13 18:20

You seriously don't believe what the fm webmaster said,why on earth would grange ask them to keep it there IF they are
no longer looking for him.

by ultimaThule 07.12.13 18:30

Twitter is abuzz with predictions of impending doom for dvTM which seems to be heading for the rocks.

O to be a fly on the wall in Rothley Towers...

Blacksmith has been channelling Peter Cook [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and I'm channelling Mel & Griff [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] big grin

by Bishop Brennan 07.12.13 18:39

margaret wrote:Thanks sallypelt and well done for asking Jon Tait. Wonder WHO told that person 'NOT' to remove tanner man from the site?

You could say that the McCanns have banked everything on Tannerman being the abductor. Right from the start, he was the one displayed in the press / PR conferences / website / media. Gerry even remembers feeling that Tannerman was hiding in the apartment with him. Jane was distraught at having seen the abductor with Maddie. It happened at a time when Gerry was chatting with Jez, and Kate was at the bar.

If Tannerman is not the abductor - and the abduction took place much later, then nobody has an alibi (and Gerry now becomes the last person to see Maddie alive). This is not part of the script which up till now had a very simple narrative. No, without Tannerman we are in uncharted and uncertain waters. The natural reaction from TM would be to hunker down and stick to the original story. Stick hard until you cannot any longer.

And for now - we just have Redwood's statement on Crimewatch - a statement which may well have caught the McCanns completely by surprise. They knew about the efits - but did they know that Tannerman was to be removed on-air from the story? I suspect not.

They (like us) may wonder if "crecheman" really does exist. Perhaps they hope he doesn't. So for now - keep a hold of Tannerman, and tell the webmaster (an employee and possibly a relative) to leave the site unchanged. Makes sense to me.

by Jontait 08.12.13 9:58

It does open a can of worms, doesn't it? I woke this morning to a VERY angry email from the webmaster, berating me for posting our correspondence online.

by Smokeandmirrors 08.12.13 10:17

Jontait wrote:It does open a can of worms, doesn't it? I woke this morning to a VERY angry email from the webmaster, berating me for posting our correspondence online.

Welcome aboard Jon welcome2

D'you fancy posting that email too? My, they do get their knickers in a twist with all their anomalies don't they? How they do hate questions!

by Guest 08.12.13 10:26

I'd love to know who the webmaster actually is....are we really in the presence of McCann royalty?

by Angelique 08.12.13 10:26

Jontait

A big welcome from me to the forum.

I wonder why they are so coy about information regarding the site - they seem to be keen to advertise in other areas.

by tiny 08.12.13 10:27

Jontait wrote:It does open a can of worms, doesn't it? I woke this morning to a VERY angry email from the webmaster, berating me for posting our correspondence online.

If the mccanns have nothing to hide then they have nothing to fear,post the reply you got from the webmaster just to let them know you don't like cover ups,

by Jontait 08.12.13 10:50

Not sure how to post pic from iPhone. Here is the text:

Wish I hadn't responded to you. How dare you post my Emails without my permission. I responded to your questions in good faith and you in turn posted my replies on that horrible Controversy page.

If you have any other questions, go to the Grange team. I will not respond to you further!

by Jontait 08.12.13 10:52

To which I replied:

Yes. Sorry about that.

I think it's important to get the truth out there.

None of your personal details have been compromised.

You were only following orders. People can now discuss WHOSE orders you were following.

I have emailed Operation Grange with my concerns.

All the best, and sorry once again for misleading you.

Jon

Ps I hope you are able to resolve your migratory issues with Google Checkout. I have been assured the switchover should only take 1 hour, not 15 (and counting) days. Plus the 6 months notice you were given should've provided ample time to switch.

Just a thought. Bye now!

by Smokeandmirrors 08.12.13 11:07

Thanks Jon.

It would seem that even thought your correspondence was not controversial, anything that people actually wish to ask rather than wait to be told, seems to provoke anger. Now, if everything was just so "normal" why would a question be so threatening to Team McCann?

They really have got to get the message that THEY want public support, but only if no-one questions anything, and that is simply hypocritical and one sided.

Have they really no understanding that it is their own behaviour and stance that creates doubt?

After six and a half years, it seems they really are too dim to get the message.

by sami 08.12.13 11:08

It seems to have been taken very personally by the webmaster/mistress, whoever they might be !

by chillyheat 08.12.13 11:13

Is there a way to find out who the webmaster is ?

by chillyheat 08.12.13 11:22

Shows they are desperate to STILL have Tannerman and Smithman as one......The Smith sighting shown here. They show the child being carried the same way as Tannerman, when clearly the Smiths said the child was being carried over the shoulder.

by Mirage 08.12.13 11:23

Jontait wrote:Not sure how to post pic from iPhone. Here is the text:

Wish I hadn't responded to you. How dare you post my Emails without my permission. I responded to your questions in good faith and you in turn posted my replies on that horrible Controversy page.

If you have any other questions, go to the Grange team. I will not respond to you further!

What an oddly emotional response from a webmaster. And so early on a Sunday morning too.

Webmasters conjure up James Bond figures for me, sequestered away, pressing buttons. Just the mechanics of the show really.

I noticed it wasn't the Metropolitan Police or Operation Grange, but the equivalent of a Christian name diminutive 'Grange' to whom you were directed. Almost affectionate I thought.

Did they supply a hotline through?

Questions questions. The everyday stuff of management. All in all, not an issue for a master to get his web in a tangle about.

by Jontait 08.12.13 11:26

They did supply tel no & email yesterday. I opted to email so as to keep the phonelines free for any important calls! I await a reply from Op Grange

by ultimaThule 08.12.13 11:27

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I'd love to know who the webmaster actually is....are we really in the presence of McCann royalty?

Shall we curtsey? scratchhead

I reckon it's Mr Greenink whose monitoring is ultra vigilant these days - the wagons have been circled and he's been tasked with looking out for the first sign of a fleet of black marias coming over them thar hills surrounding Rothley Towers.

welcome

Jontait - and way to go! clapping

TrulyAwful was up twittering at the crack of dawn this morning. That's 3 days running her knickers have worked their way up to her neck but, sadly, not yet around it.

by Mirage 08.12.13 11:32

Jontait wrote:They did supply tel no & email yesterday. I opted to email so as to keep the phonelines free for any important calls! I await a reply from Op Grange

Well done. And thank you too.

You mustn't put yourself down though, Jontait! Yours could be the call that supplies that missing piece of the jigsaw TM have been ~~sitting on~~ looking for, for 6.5 years. dance

by margaret 08.12.13 11:35

Jontait wrote:Not sure how to post pic from iPhone. Here is the text:

Wish I hadn't responded to you. How dare you post my Emails without my permission. I responded to your questions in good faith and you in turn posted my replies on that horrible Controversy page.

If you have any other questions, go to the Grange team. I will not respond to you further!

Awwww get them all high and mighty. spit coffee

Was this the same people that blacksmith posted about earlier in the year? The webmaster was going to clarify something with 'Kate' then denied doing so once blacksmith had shown up their lies.

Well done Jon and welcome. thumbsup

by jeanmonroe 08.12.13 11:40

I posted this December 3rd 2013.

WHO WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY IF SOMEBODY GETS 'ATTACKED'?

McCANNS OR SY/MET POLICE?

WHY are the Met/SY still allowing the McCanns to portray 'Creche/Tannerman' on their website after they, SY/Met have publicly DISMISSED him as of importance?

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FIFTY (50) days after DCI Andy Redwood 'eliminated' 'him' as relevent to investigation!

What IF 'somebody saw somebody' dressed in similar clothing, as Creche/Tannerman, in the street, today . tomorrow, next week and 'attacked/tried to arrest' him as the possible 'abductor' of Madeleine McCann?

Are SY/Met/ DCI Redwood going to take responsibility for that assault, they could have obviously 'prevented' by instructing the McCanns to STOP 'promoting' a 'suspect' they have dismissed?

Or is it the case, that SY/Met were TOLD, of a 'possible assault' (worse case scenario, death, like the recent case in Bristol)
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but, ignored the warning, and will 'apologise' AFTER an 'event' with 'we were told this might be a possibility due to our decision to leave a false suspect on our clients website.We'll refer ourselves to the IPCC and lessons will be learn't'

WHY are SY/Met allowing the McCanns to 'display' a 'suspect' and possibly put at risk an 'innocent' man, Christmas shopping with his young, blonde daughter, DCI Redwood has dismissed publicly?

METROPOLITAN POLICE, DCI REDWOOD, AS OF TODAY, 3RD DECEMBER 2013..........................................YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD!

by Mirage 08.12.13 11:55

jeanmonroe wrote:I posted this December 3rd 2013.

WHO WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY IF SOMEBODY GETS 'ATTACKED'?

McCANNS OR SY/MET POLICE?

WHY are the Met/SY still allowing the McCanns to portray 'Creche/Tannerman' on their website after they, SY/Met have publicly DISMISSED him as of importance?

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FIFTY (50) days after DCI Andy Redwood 'eliminated' 'him' as relevent to investigation!

What IF 'somebody saw somebody' dressed in similar clothing, as Creche/Tannerman, in the street, today . tomorrow, next week and 'attacked/tried to arrest' him as the possible 'abductor' of Madeleine McCann?

Are SY/Met/ DCI Redwood going to take responsibility for that assault, they could have obviously 'prevented' by instructing the McCanns to STOP 'promoting' a 'suspect' they have dismissed?

Or is it the case, that SY/Met were TOLD, of a 'possible assault' (worse case scenario, death, like the recent case in Bristol)
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but, ignored the warning, and will 'apologise' AFTER an 'event' with 'we were told this might be a possibility due to our decision to leave a false suspect on our clients website.We'll refer ourselves to the IPCC and lessons will be learn't'

WHY are SY/Met allowing the McCanns to 'display' a 'suspect' and possibly put at risk an 'innocent' man, Christmas shopping with his young, blonde daughter, DCI Redwood has dismissed publicly?

METROPOLITAN POLICE, DCI REDWOOD, AS OF TODAY, 3RD DECEMBER 2013..........................................YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD!

Yes, it could lead to a serious assault IMO, jeanmonroe. This is too high profile a case for it not to be a real possibility.

This, along with the muddle being created in the search for MM by her family's own dedicated website, makes it imperative that someone sorts this out immediately.

I've never heard of a precedent for such flagrant thumbing at a MET investigation - and flaunted in everyone's faces too. As a taxpayer, I want to know why it is being tolerated.

Remind me, what is the cost of this mammoth investigation (inc CW) to date?

Over to you Grange.

by oakeso 08.12.13 12:07

ChillyHeat wrote:Is there a way to find out who the webmaster is ?

I think it's an apprentice webmaster who hasn't quite mastered the online store (donations) or linking (book linking to poster page) as yet.

by tasprin 08.12.13 12:32

Many people have thought the Webmaster is Kate McCann.
Who said the image must NOT be removed - the McCanns or Operation Grange? Why would the Grange team want to publicise the image of an innocent man whom DCI Redwood has categorically ruled out of the inquiry? What is the point of doing that? It makes no sense - unless it is part of the 'confusion is good' campaign - as it is deliberately misleading and a hindrance to the search

by mysterion 08.12.13 12:42

TM are running the show. SY are no more than agents. PJ need to be brought into line. That is the impression I get.

by Bishop Brennan 08.12.13 12:43

This appeared recently on the main official FB page:

We've had questions regarding our online store being unavailable and when will it be available again. Google Checkout was retired on 21 November. Because Google Checkout is no longer available, we are redesigning our online store with another merchant system. I'm finishing the design/setup and will have the online store available soon. Thank you for your patience while we make this change.

No news as to why Tannerman still features though.

by SixMillionQuid 08.12.13 12:44

Webmaster could be

"It is booming," said Calum MacRae, director of Infohost, the Scottish IT company behind the findmadeleine site. "We didn't expect this number of people. "We had 10 million hits between 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Thursday -- our server just gave up, but we resolved that within five minutes."

The website [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] was launched on May 9 and it changed to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on Wednesday.

Messages of support from across Europe, the United States and Australia have been posted on the site.

"You are in my thoughts every day," wrote Heidi from Finland. "I pray that she will be found soon safe and well."

Debbie Bates, from Australia, wrote: "As a mother of two, I cannot imagine for a moment what you are going through."

Parents Kate and Gerry McCann are taking "immense strength" from the messages, said family member Michael Wright.

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by chillyheat 08.12.13 12:54

Policeman's son Calum MacRae, 18, is responsible for the campaign's website and distribution network for Madeleine's campaign from the unlikely location of the Loch Broom garage, on a windswept industrial estate on the outskirts of Ullapool, Wester Ross.

Could it be him ?

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