Re: Former Ullapool teacher struck off for indecent images

by Snifferdog 11.11.13 17:22

The name of the teacher who had the pornographic pics on his computer is Mr Moon not Dr Rickwood according to the article!

by Hongkong Phooey 11.11.13 17:28

Smokeandmirrors wrote:Even of Tony Rickwoods quicksand fetish is immaterial to anything…..

What are the chances of his wife employing a pervert?
What are the chances of Payne being the subject of a statement from Dr's and close friends of Kate about pedophile concerns?
What are the chances of Payne bathing other peoples babies?
What are the chances of a woman working in child protection, who by chance came to assist thew McCanns, recognising DP from her work?
What are the chances of Murat admitting to having some dodgy stuff on his computer?
What are the chances of Murat having a base in Exeter, approx 1 mile from Tanner?
What are the chances of the Hubbards having a base in Norfolk 2 miles from Murats ex?
What are the chances of a correlation between Tanner and Murats DNA from the Burgau apartment?
What are the chances of Ray Wyre getting involved and then being found to have been on pedophile guest list for Elm House?
What are the chances of 3 criminal groups of detectives getting involved?
What are the chances of Eddie and Keela being completely ignored by SY?
What are the chances of Gerry McCann wanting to have gagging laws on the media?

What are the chances of all the absolute mind boggling co-incidences being of no consequence, when the father of a missing child was fixated on paedophiles within MINUTES of his daughters "alleged" disappearance?

What are the chances of ANY of this having a rational or decent explanation?

Absolutely ZERO chance.

Well said

It should be remembered with the Gaspers that not only did they make a statement on another doctor but they were good friends. That was no doubt a very difficult decision but one they felt had to be done.

by Mirage 11.11.13 17:42

Hongkong Phooey wrote:
Smokeandmirrors wrote:Even of Tony Rickwoods quicksand fetish is immaterial to anything…..

What are the chances of his wife employing a pervert?
What are the chances of Payne being the subject of a statement from Dr's and close friends of Kate about pedophile concerns?
What are the chances of Payne bathing other peoples babies?
What are the chances of a woman working in child protection, who by chance came to assist thew McCanns, recognising DP from her work?
What are the chances of Murat admitting to having some dodgy stuff on his computer?
What are the chances of Murat having a base in Exeter, approx 1 mile from Tanner?
What are the chances of the Hubbards having a base in Norfolk 2 miles from Murats ex?
What are the chances of a correlation between Tanner and Murats DNA from the Burgau apartment?
What are the chances of Ray Wyre getting involved and then being found to have been on pedophile guest list for Elm House?
What are the chances of 3 criminal groups of detectives getting involved?
What are the chances of Eddie and Keela being completely ignored by SY?
What are the chances of Gerry McCann wanting to have gagging laws on the media?

What are the chances of all the absolute mind boggling co-incidences being of no consequence, when the father of a missing child was fixated on paedophiles within MINUTES of his daughters "alleged" disappearance?

What are the chances of ANY of this having a rational or decent explanation?

Absolutely ZERO chance.

Well said

It should be remembered with the Gaspers that not only did they make a statement on another doctor but they were good friends. That was no doubt a very difficult decision but one they felt had to be done.

I think you're reading too much into things Smoke and Mirrors, haha ........... NOT !

Blimey! What was it KM said about coincidences one two and three?!!!

Mrs

(my new signature!)

by Copodenieve 11.11.13 17:46

ChillyHeat wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:
mt wrote:Regarding the quicksand in Huelva and Tony Rickwood having been 'missed' by mainstream. Why haven't we heard about him? He was never there to hold Phil's hand whenever she was on tv, never mentioned in newspaper articles, in fact Phil has always used her maiden name. Was this deliberate? Did he suggest the quicksand in Huelva to Gerry? Could it be possible that if his name was better known his quicksand perversion would have come out and 2 plus 2 put together for any kind of lead?

ETA if anyone's brave enough, here's Rickwoods VK account http://vk.com/id220033156
I clicked the link but everything seems deleted....However he still has 1 follower there. I typed that name into Google and it has a link for the deep web
Will try and find more....
Looks like Russian bondage to me on the name of Rickwoods follower

last seen 7 November at 6:50 pm
Scopertonosol Auroraman

Didn´t she testify in court at the Amaral trial? If it is the same sister, she said she was divorced.

by **PeterMac** 11.11.13 17:47

“One coincidence, two coincidences – maybe they’re still coincidences. Any more than that and it stops being coincidence.”
Kate McCann
(in madeleine, by Kate McCann, published in 2011 by Bantam Press, pg. 328)

by Guest 11.11.13 17:49

Copodenieve, that was Trisha Cameron.

Phil seems to be being kept under control these days to stop her putting her foot in her mouth!

by Copodenieve 11.11.13 17:52

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Copodenieve, that was Trisha Cameron.

Phil seems to be being kept under control these days to stop her putting her foot in her mouth!

Thank you

by SittingOnTheFence 11.11.13 18:00

Smokeandmirrors wrote: wrote:Even of Tony Rickwoods quicksand fetish is immaterial to anything…..

What are the chances of his wife employing a pervert?
What are the chances of Payne being the subject of a statement from Dr's and close friends of Kate about pedophile concerns?
What are the chances of Payne bathing other peoples babies?
What are the chances of a woman working in child protection, who by chance came to assist thew McCanns, recognising DP from her work?
What are the chances of Murat admitting to having some dodgy stuff on his computer?
What are the chances of Murat having a base in Exeter, approx 1 mile from Tanner?
What are the chances of the Hubbards having a base in Norfolk 2 miles from Murats ex?
What are the chances of a correlation between Tanner and Murats DNA from the Burgau apartment?
What are the chances of Ray Wyre getting involved and then being found to have been on pedophile guest list for Elm House?
What are the chances of 3 criminal groups of detectives getting involved?
What are the chances of Eddie and Keela being completely ignored by SY?
What are the chances of Gerry McCann wanting to have gagging laws on the media?

What are the chances of all the absolute mind boggling co-incidences being of no consequence, when the father of a missing child was fixated on paedophiles within MINUTES of his daughters "alleged" disappearance?

What are the chances of ANY of this having a rational or decent explanation?

Absolutely ZERO chance.

that Murat and Payne abducted Maddie and Gerry is trying his best to keep everyone focused on finding her rather than accusing him????

by Smokeandmirrors 11.11.13 18:21

Er…no….

But if one looks at all the rather odd coincidences and things of a dubious nature one can, at the very least, see that there are some sordid and peculiar undertones running through the whole case.

Rebekah Brooks, whatever the courts may rule in her current trial or whatever the facts surrounding the closure of NoTW, Cmaeron heeded her warning and launched the review. Scotland Yard also removed a quantity of material from their offices and Julian Assange saw fit to show a passing interest in their case. By not so many degrees of separation, names on the Elm House guest list have entered the orbit and all has gone quite on the Fernbridge front for now.

It's not rocket science.

by mt 11.11.13 18:58

Snifferdog wrote:The name of the teacher who had the pornographic pics on his computer is Mr Moon not Dr Rickwood according to the article!

Correct - the head teacher was Dr Tony Rickwood.

by **PeterMac** 11.11.13 20:46

Strange how all this has come out at the same time.
This is a shortened version from the BBC site
4 November 2013
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Teachers and other professionals who do not report child abuse suspicions should face prosecution, the ex-director of public prosecutions says.
Mr Starmer, who was succeeded as director of public prosecutions by Alison Saunders on Friday, said it was time to "plug a gap in the law" that had been there for a "very, very long time".
"If you're in a position of authority or responsibility in relation to children, and you have cause to believe that a child has been abused, or is about to be abused, you really ought to do something about it," he said.
He said a criminal penalty would "focus people's minds" and said there should be "immunity for individuals if they did report".
He said the penalty for failing to report abuse could be a short jail sentence or a fine.
"There are just too many examples of cases where those who have suspected abuse have not really done anything about it and the perpetrator has either got away with it or, worse still, been able to perpetuate the offending."
He added: "I would have a reasonably broad category of individuals that were subject to the law.
"Obviously school teachers, but others in a position of authority or responsibility in relation to children, including other educational institutions, even sporting institutions."

Then came the story of the teacher at Ullapool High being struck off for indecent images - clearly a form of abuse
7 November 2013

Former Ullapool teacher struck off for indecent images
A teacher convicted of possessing indecent images has been struck off the teaching register.
Martin Ingram, who taught history at Ullapool High School, asked the General Teaching Council for Scotland to remove him from the list.

Then the link was made with Tony Rickwood, NOT a teacher, but with links to the same school, via Philomena McCann-Rickwood, also making what MIGHT be thought by some people
to be indecent images, but in any event images which are clearly perverted and deviant.
In fact his peculiar perversion has been in the public domain for a very long time, but like so many other things once you looking into coincidences, others follow. The fact of his having been on School trips with adolescents to a beach resort in Turkey for example, was not widely known.
Likewise the fact that the struck-off teacher, Ingram, had been in the very Department headed by Philomena.
Whether she as Head of Department was involved in the selection process is of course, not known.

As St Kate of Rothley - Patron Saint of Abandoned Children - said herself, (at p. 328)
“One coincidence, two coincidences – maybe they’re still coincidences. Any more than that and it stops being coincidence.”

by petunia 11.11.13 21:16

What i am trying to get my head around after following this case for the last 6 years is why am now only learning that auntie phill's got an husband.

by Guest 11.11.13 21:18

Yes, I agree it's strange. Apart from sister Jackie, none of the McCanns are shrinking violets when it comes to publicity - least of all Philomena herself, yet we didn't know about her husband.

by petunia 11.11.13 21:28

And if it's true what were hearing NFWTD he isn't a very pleasant one imo.

by margaret 11.11.13 21:39

petunia wrote:What i am trying to get my head around after following this case for the last 6 years is why am now only learning that auntie phill's got an husband.

You're shocked you've only just heard about it. I'm shocked she's got one! lol4

by Guest 11.11.13 22:38

I've seen a photo of their marriage, but blimey, really cannot remember where. But it's there ...

by petunia 11.11.13 22:39

margaret wrote:
petunia wrote:What i am trying to get my head around after following this case for the last 6 years is why am now only learning that auntie phill's got an husband.
You're shocked you've only just heard about it. I'm shocked she's got one!

me too Margaret.

by **Tony Bennett** 11.11.13 23:29

Just for the record, Martin Ingram's recorded crimes at Dingwall Sheriff Court were as follows:

Martin Ingram

You were convicted on 28 February 2013, at Dingwall Sheriff Court, of the following criminal offences:

1. Between 26 May 2011 and 7 March 2012 at [address redacted] you did take or permit to be taken an indecent photograph or pseudo-photograph of children, contrary to the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982 Section 52(1)(a) as amended; and

2. Between 21 September 2011 and 4 December 2011 at [address redacted] you were found in possession of an extreme pornographic image, depicting in an explicit and realistic way an act which involves sexual activity between a person and an animal (or the carcase of an animal) contrary to the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982 Section 51A(1).

Again for the record, the sentence for these offences was a three-year 'community payback' = community service order.

The sheriff also ordered that he should participate in a rehabilitation programme for sex offenders.

He is also subject to reporting requirements under the SexOffenders Act for the three years of his payback order.

Other points from the press articles about him:

QUOTES:

The 41-year-old also possessed what prosecutors described as “extreme” pornography involving images of a person and an animal.

The offences, which took place between May 2011 and March 2012, were carried out at the teacher’s home, in Ullapool, Wester Ross.

The teacher was arrested after the image of the child was discovered on a computer in his home, which was later seized by police.

At the teacher’s hearing earlier this year, fiscal depute Stewart Maciver told the court police obtained a search warrant for the accused’s address as a result of intelligence they had received.

It is understood that since being convicted of his crimes, his marriage has broken down.

by Sietah 12.11.13 1:22

ProfessorPPlum wrote:At the risk of being unpopular, I worry that some people have gone a bit overboard trying to make mud stick to this guy. I know there are people who believe the 'last' photos are faked (particularly the pool picture) and latch on to anyone in the McCann's immediately family who can do clever things with photoShop.

I've got a lot of experience working on images (including faking images which is great fun as my avatar shows) and I am confident that while the pool photo may have been taken on some other date, it certainly hasn't been photoshopped. I've made this point to folks with a lot less experience than me on a couple of threads in this forum but many want it to be true so much that they ignore my advice and go looking for the photoshop wizard in the McCann family to back up their conspiracy theory.

As to whether creating pictures of women in quicksand is anything more than an unpleasant (but essentially harmless) middle-aged fetish or fantasy, who know? At worst, it suggests to me the kind of low-level misogyny you find everywhere online in Facebook, YouTube, discussion forums, Twitter and so on - but that doesn't make him a pervert or a dangerous individual.

For your information, 'Deviant Art' is one of the oldest and - in internet terms - most respected creative websites for showcasing all kinds of digital 'artwork'. To go off on one about it being perverted and obscene reveals a lack of understanding of that community. Deviant Art is just a cross-section of the internet; it represents everything and stands for nothing in particular. Of course there are some pictures there that make you uncomfortable but that's a matter of preference, a subjective judgment.

The eagerness with which people have pounced on this man in the quest to find some kind of paedophile angle (the Holy Grail of the McCann case?) does this forum's credibility no favours IMO.

If I understand you right, your avatar is proofe that you know more about manipulating images, than the persons that doubt if "the last pic" is genuine. It would be easy to accept you are an expert, compared to them, just because you say so.
But before I maybe accept that, me not very skilled at photoshopping, I like to know what your goal was with your avatar. Was it your goal to make Gerry look like an owl with one punched black eye, than you did a good job, in my opinion. If it was your goal to create just Gerry without sunglasses, I think I could do it better. In case you wanted to complain some posters don't want to accept what the master said, that sounds somewhat belitteling to me.

My English is not that good, but I think what you are saying is: "we" have a cause and now search evidence that suits us. While I think we have evidence and search for the cause because it puzzles "us"

by **PeterMac** 12.11.13 8:58

Tony Bennett wrote:Just for the record, Martin Ingram's recorded crimes at Dingwall Sheriff Court were as follows:
SNIP
The teacher was arrested after the image of the child was discovered on a computer in his home, which was later seized by police.
At the teacher’s hearing earlier this year, fiscal depute Stewart Maciver told the court police obtained a search warrant for the accused’s address as a result of intelligence they had received.

I wonder who tipped them off.

by ProfessorPPlum 12.11.13 15:48

Sietah wrote:If I understand you right, your avatar is proofe that you know more about manipulating images, than the persons that doubt if "the last pic" is genuine. It would be easy to accept you are an expert, compared to them, just because you say so.
But before I maybe accept that, me not very skilled at photoshopping, I like to know what your goal was with your avatar. Was it your goal to make Gerry look like an owl with one punched black eye, than you did a good job, in my opinion. If it was your goal to create just Gerry without sunglasses, I think I could do it better. In case you wanted to complain some posters don't want to accept what the master said, that sounds somewhat belitteling to me.

My English is not that good, but I think what you are saying is: "we" have a cause and now search evidence that suits us. While I think we have evidence and search for the cause because it puzzles "us"

Sietah your English is so good you sound like an English person pretending to be a foreigner. Pedro Silva-ish even.

As it happens, my avatar took a couple of minutes to do - and I didn't do it to show off, or to prove a point but for fun. You're perfectly entitled to your 'attack' on my point of view but it still stands: there's absolutely NOTHING in the 'last pool photo' that indicates to me that it was photoshopped. Your version, by contrast, has tell-tale and careless edges on Gerry's arms and several other places.

Interesting that your only rebuttal to my point of view is to resort to trying to 'insult' me and my avatar.

People who have to insult in debate are usually fighting a losing corner.

by **Tony Bennett** 12.11.13 16:36

ProfessorPPlum wrote:
"...there's absolutely NOTHING in the 'last pool photo' that indicates to me that it was photoshopped".

Professor Plum,

Just help me on one small point if you would, please.

You are adamant that the pool photo is not photoshopped.

OK, I'll go with that, you profess to be an expert on the subject, I am certainly not.

I think that one of the things that has attracted such great interest with the 'Last Photo' is that there are so few photos of Madeleine on holiday that week - is just just four or five we have, including the tennis balls photo?

Then there is the issue of it having been produced three weeks late - very hard to understand if the camera and the photo were arleady there in Praia da Luz.

Suppose for the sake of argument it was a true photograph, but taken earlier in the week.

It was obviously taken on a bright sunny day, and the sun must have been at its zenith, as the shadows are very short. It must have been taken about 12noon, if it was taken in Praia da Luz in early May - still 7 weeks short of the summer solstice (21 June).

I am not implying anything, but just asking - how easy or difficult would it be for a reasonably good amateur photoshopper to alter the time and date stamp date on the photograph?

by Angelique 12.11.13 17:07

ProfessorPPlum

I love your Avatar - I wish I could have it and I think you did a good job especially with the sunglasses.

But tell me, just for my own satisfaction - did you just place the sunglasses where I suggested they would have been in another photograph or did you also alter the reflection?

Because they look perfectly correct now and so does the reflection.

by Watching The Detectives 12.11.13 17:56

But what would be the benefit of photoshopping sunglasses so that Gerry is wearing them?

I appreciate the thoughts in general behind the suggestion that photoshopping may have taken place...but I don't see why the sunglasses would have been photoshopped, what would be the benefit of doing that?

Apologies if I've not delved deep enough or am slow on the uptake.

by Sietah 12.11.13 18:24

ProfessorPPlum wrote:
Interesting that your only rebuttal to my point of view is to resort to trying to 'insult' me and my avatar.

It was wrong of me to make that nasty comment and I don't mean it.
That kind of comments are not only stupid, but it takes the attention away from the point I wanted to make.
It was very childisch and I appolagize.