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bellum wrote:there are a  lot of new people here.  where are the usual ones?

Châtelaine wrote:

bellum wrote:there are a  lot of new people here.  where are the usual ones?

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Because the usual ones, me for instance, are getting a bit weary with the discussion ... ?

Châtelaine wrote:

bellum wrote:there are a  lot of new people here.  where are the usual ones?

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Because the usual ones, me for instance, are getting a bit weary with the discussion ... ?

aquila wrote:

Châtelaine wrote:

bellum wrote:there are a  lot of new people here.  where are the usual ones?

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Because the usual ones, me for instance, are getting a bit weary with the discussion ... ?

and because the 'usual ones' are considering newbies' posts and hoping they read the files, search this forum, look at previous discussions and contribute in an informed way?

susible wrote:

aquila wrote:

Châtelaine wrote:

bellum wrote:there are a  lot of new people here.  where are the usual ones?

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Because the usual ones, me for instance, are getting a bit weary with the discussion ... ?

and because the 'usual ones' are considering newbies' posts and hoping they read the files, search this forum, look at previous discussions and contribute in an informed way?

To be fair though, there are many people who are new to this forum, but not to the case and have posted elsewhere in the past, but I think the CW debacle has brought many posters back into the fray and have joined here as a result.

ChillyHeat wrote:Another Irish man describing Gerry getting off the plane......

05-01-Apensos V, Vol 1, Pages 131
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APENSOS V, Volume I, Supposed Sightings and Locations (FILE 01)....(PDF Page 119)....Page 137?"  Handwritten Richard McCluskey statement"
Page 137 (Page 1 of 1) (Copied and pasted from the Page 131 reference)
Statement made 12th September 2007

I am the above named person and I live at an address know to Police. In early May 2007 myself and my wife were on holiday in Portugal. I have already provided a witness statement in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. I would like to add the following;

The events of the past week or so, with the McCanns being very much in the news, have triggered my memory in relation to the incident.

In my original statement I described a distressed female who ran down a road towards a white van I had described.

Having viewed recent news footage of Mrs McCann I am now almost certain that she is the female I described as being in a distressed state. I say this because of her slight build, high cheekbones and her eyes and hairstyle.

I've agonised for days over whether or not to contact the police about this because it is a terrible thing to accuse somebody of. It had just not crossed my mind that the child?s parents could in some way be involved in her disappearance.

I have watched a good deal of news coverage about the McCanns over the past week or so. Another thing which has played on my mind is the coverage of Mr McCann walking off the aeroplane holding one of his young children. The way he was holding the child over his left shoulder reminded me of the man carrying the child from the white van in Portugal.

Although I could not describe the male I'd seen in Portugal because he had his back to me, it was the particular way Mr. McCann held the child that made me think. He held the child over his left shoulder with his left arm supporting the child?s weight.

The child's head was sort of hanging over behind Mr. McCann, this made me think back to the night in Portugal and it just looked like the same person.

(signed).......R McCluskey 

aquila wrote:
Totally agree...just don't understand why someone would even bother to ask where the usual ones are.

sonic72 wrote:

aquila wrote:
Totally agree...just don't understand why someone would even bother to ask where the usual ones are.

The person that asked that question has only made 14 posts, and they were asking that question like they were a 'regular' or something?! Weird.


Some people do discuss pointless stuff and go down unnecessary 'rabbit holes' whilst completely ignoring important information, like the stuff I posted about Kate & Gerry's Arguido statements concerning their responses to cadaver dogs etc (page 18 this thread).

sonic72 wrote:

aquila wrote:
Totally agree...just don't understand why someone would even bother to ask where the usual ones are.

The person that asked that question has only made 14 posts, and they were asking that question like they were a 'regular' or something?! Weird.


Some people do discuss pointless stuff and go down unnecessary 'rabbit holes' whilst completely ignoring important information, like the stuff I posted about Kate & Gerry's Arguido statements concerning their responses to cadaver dogs etc (page 18 this thread).

Tony Bennett wrote:

MoonGoddess wrote:Is it a myth that one of the Smith party asked ‘oh is she sleeping’?

It is claimed on behalf of - but not by - Mrs Mary Smith that she spoke to Smithman and challenged the man, asking if he was sleeping, but he is said to have put his head down and not answered, carrying on walking.

I can find no verbal or written statement by Mrs Smith confirming that.

Mrs Smith did not apparently travel to Portugal along with her husband and two children to confirm this encounter by way of a witness statement.

MoonGoddess wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

MoonGoddess wrote:Is it a myth that one of the Smith party asked ‘oh is she sleeping’?

It is claimed on behalf of - but not by - Mrs Mary Smith that she spoke to Smithman and challenged the man, asking if he was sleeping, but he is said to have put his head down and not answered, carrying on walking.

I can find no verbal or written statement by Mrs Smith confirming that.

Mrs Smith did not apparently travel to Portugal along with her husband and two children to confirm this encounter by way of a witness statement.

Thank You Tony

susible wrote:Yes Littlepixie, it's all very well for Tony to have his reasons for believing that the Smith sighting is a less than honest account, but for the rest of us who are not so much in the loop it is very frustrating to have our long held beliefs being knocked down without any explanation whatsoever

oakeso wrote:

susible wrote:Yes Littlepixie, it's all very well for Tony to have his reasons for believing that the Smith sighting is a less than honest account, but for the rest of us who are not so much in the loop it is very frustrating to have our long held beliefs being knocked down without any explanation whatsoever

Same here, I have a lot of respect for Tony but would need to understand his reasons.

littlepixie wrote:Susible, I hope Tony could send it to me too as I am really interested in this.

PeterMac wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/440816/Did-panicking-kidnapper-plan-to-leave-injured-Madeleine-McCann-with-medics

Did panicking kidnapper plan to leave 'injured' Madeleine McCann with medics?

WHOEVER kidnapped Madeleine McCann may have intended to leave her outside a doctor’s surgery after she was injured in a burglary gone wrong, it was claimed last night.
By: James Murray
Published: Sun, November 3, 2013
The key sighting of the potential prime suspect carrying a sleeping child happened in a small road just yards away from Luzdoc, the medical centre in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.
British residents Julie and Colin Kimber have been trying to work out why an abductor would risk taking a three-year-old into a fairly busy area of bars and restaurants just before 10pm on May 3, 2007.
Looking at the exact point of the sighting, Mr Kimber said: “You have to ask yourself why he was heading down the hill in this direction when he must have known there were more people about.
“Maybe a burglary went wrong and the child was injured and then he thought he should take her to the medical centre, panicked and then took her away.
“If he was taking her to someone in a car he would not have arranged the rendezvous in this area because too many people would be around. Why risk being seen by somebody?”
Another possibility being considered is that an abductor lived locally and took Madeleine to his property after kidnapping her from the family’s holiday apartment at the Ocean Club.
You have to ask yourself why he was heading down the hill in this direction
Mr Kimber added: “Ever since the Crimewatch programme, which placed great emphasis on this key sighting, we have been trying to work it out, but the route is baffling.
“There is a real village community in Luz and everybody has been thinking hard about if they saw anyone who looked like the man in the e-fit.”
Another theory is that an abductor may have taken Madeleine to one of several derelict buildings and gardens, all just yards from where Irish holidaymaker Martin Smith and other members of his family saw the e-fit man carrying a child.
Directly opposite the sighting is a junction with two derelict houses.
A small doorway leads into the garden.
Today, by looking over the wall, it seems someone has been living in the garden. There is an open toilet and a hose pipe shower with a curtain rail, table and chairs and signs of an open fire.
One of the buildings is owned by a German woman who uses it to house bikes for rent to holidaymakers. The other property is up for sale.
Neither owner wished to comment last week. It is understood the gardens were thoroughly searched when Madeleine vanished but locals could not recall seeing police enter any derelict buildings.
In recent months police have been active in this key area of the resort. One resident, who declined to be named, said: “They have been up and down the road, day and night.
“Some people reckon the man was on his way to the rocky coastline a few hundred yards away to take her away in a boat, but that would be very tricky at night.
“This renewed police activity is good because people want this solved once and for all.”
Luz residents have been sceptical of reports that a sacked Ocean Club worker may be the abductor. He died in a tractor accident four years ago.
The 40-year-old was a petty criminal with a drug problem but last week his widow said he was “incapable of touching a child” and there was nothing in his criminal file about being a paedophile.

Almost beyond parody !
We now have a Cape Verde Islander, whose face is made up to look caucasian, who found Madeleine injured during a burglary, and is taking her to the medical centre . . .
Not even Mitchell could come up with this sort of stuff, surely.
Need another coffee !