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VIDEO - McSpin Response - Dogs Don't Lie!

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VIDEO - McSpin Response - Dogs Don't Lie!

Post by HiDeHo on 23.04.12 11:44

My response to McCann McSpin 'Dogs are Unreliable'



Thanks to Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann forum for some of the research material

Gerry McCann claims that CADAVER dogs are unreliable. This video shows quite the opposite. Including footage of a murder victim found 10' below the surface with piles of MEAT on top to attempt to distract the dogs. They were not distracted.

10 acres of land, buried 10' down, this case would not have been solved without the dogs. Amazing footage!
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Post by The Slave on 23.04.12 13:08

@HiDeHo wrote:My response to McCann McSpin 'Dogs are Unreliable'



Thanks to Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann forum for some of the research material

Gerry McCann claims that CADAVER dogs are unreliable. This video shows quite the opposite. Including footage of a murder victim found 10' below the surface with piles of MEAT on top to attempt to distract the dogs. They were not distracted.

10 acres of land, buried 10' down, this case would not have been solved without the dogs. Amazing footage!

Amazing video!!!!! I would believe ANY dog over Gerald. Wonderful creatures. I love them.
Another top video, HideHo.x
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Re: VIDEO - McSpin Response - Dogs Don't Lie!

Post by pingunootnoot on 19.05.12 14:08

Brilliant video, i hope the Mccann Team watch this as it clearly shows that a cadaver dog knows the difference between rotting meat and a dead corpse.

Also i've had it confirmed by a funeral director that sometime locum gp's do have to verify a dead body if another professional is not present. But 6 in one week is far too many for any gp.

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Post by Hummingbird on 19.05.12 14:48

@HiDeHo wrote:My response to McCann McSpin 'Dogs are Unreliable'



Thanks to Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann forum for some of the research material

Gerry McCann claims that CADAVER dogs are unreliable. This video shows quite the opposite. Including footage of a murder victim found 10' below the surface with piles of MEAT on top to attempt to distract the dogs. They were not distracted.

10 acres of land, buried 10' down, this case would not have been solved without the dogs. Amazing footage!

What can I say that video reduced me to tears! So so powerful! Forget Panorama half hour programmes about Last Hope THIS video needs to be shown to the people of the World who wonder what happened to Madeleine.

I have never been more convinced than I am now that poor Madeleine died in that apartment. Thank you for taking the time to put this video together and finally.....

Would I trust GM and KM as babysitters - NO Would I trust Eddie and Keela - YES!

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Post by Guest on 19.05.12 15:05

The handler in the start says a dog can smell a child's tear if it felt on a football field.

According to fenn and mccspinn M did a lot of crying one night at least. So her bed sheetings should be full of tears and snot ( not sure if snot is the right word , you know the goo coming out of our noses when we cry or having the flu ) big grin

So did they wash her bed sheets ? If , why ? If not, why didn't they find lots of DNA in her bed ?
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Post by frank zappa on 19.05.12 15:32

I wonder if the McCanns will have a fighting fund to free David Gilroy. And discredit the dogs who helped secure his conviction.

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Post by friedtomatoes on 19.05.12 16:33

Or provide a list of missing people cases where a cadaver dog barked and the persons turned up. Would also like to say a huge thanks to hideho for all the videos.

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Post by FH on 20.05.12 0:49

@pingunootnoot wrote:Brilliant video, i hope the Mccann Team watch this as it clearly shows that a cadaver dog knows the difference between rotting meat and a dead corpse.

Also i've had it confirmed by a funeral director that sometime locum gp's do have to verify a dead body if another professional is not present. But 6 in one week is far too many for any gp.

Unless your name is Shipman?

I thought the dead bodies at work theory came from the mouth of Aunty Phil so was pretty much discredited anyway. Seriously though, even if she had seen 6 corpses in a week (they do sometimes happen in batches), how much contact would she actually have had with the deceased. She would have hopefully put on gloves, checked for a pulse, perhaps checked there was no pupil reflex, then taken her gloves off and/or washed her hands. Not sure how she's have got her clothes (top and trousers) contaminated to the extent that a dog would mark them weeks afterwards. If she were an undertaker actually handling the body then maybe, but someone pronouncing death it doesn't seem likely.

I have 3 springers, so my vote has always been with the dogs. It's just a shame the dog signals cadaverine, but cannot signal exactly whose cadaver it came from. So although the DNA from the blood spots found in the same area as the cadaver dog alerted, was a high % match to MM's , there is no concrete proof it came from Madeleine. Statistically it seems highly likely, but not 100%

Again I think their behaviour says it all. If someone said to me that the dogs alerted to blood and cadaverine in the appartment my child was missing from, I'd be absolutely devastated and non-functioning. They just try to discredit the dogs. Bizarre, unless they know something we don't.

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Post by FH on 20.05.12 0:58

Moa wrote:The handler in the start says a dog can smell a child's tear if it felt on a football field.

According to fenn and mccspinn M did a lot of crying one night at least. So her bed sheetings should be full of tears and snot ( not sure if snot is the right word , you know the goo coming out of our noses when we cry or having the flu )

So did they wash her bed sheets ? If , why ? If not, why didn't they find lots of DNA in her bed ?

Only if she was in bed at the time. Distressed children don't tend to lie in bed and cry if they can get out of bed. They tend to get up, go look for someone and stop at whatever obstacle is in there way. If she was sitting crying behind the door, or sitting on the sofa, or lying on the floor , then no traces on the bedding. There would have been traces on her PJ's but they were abducted too.

Anyone find it odd that Mrs Fenn could sit and listen to a small child crying for hours without phoning down to reception to report it? I'd have been on the phone after 5-10 minutes. Especially if I couldn't hear any adults.

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Post by jd on 20.05.12 1:08

On the issue of stains in the bedroom. This was reported in the final PJ reports

"Still within the area of collection, treatment and analysis of residues, the identification of a stain on the cover of one of the beds in MADELEINE’s bedroom (not the one she slept in), which raised some suspicions, should be pointed out.
Duly analysed, the stain configured a biological residue (saliva) that belonged to a child – CHARLIE GORDON – that had been on holidays, earlier and with his parents, in the same apartment."


Is interesting to note that they can identify a stain from a previous occupant of apartment 5A but nothing from Madeleine McCann!!!
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Post by jd on 20.05.12 1:35

Is it possible that in the Ocean Club apartment where the Mccann family spend several days, not a single hair from Madeleine Mccann was found, among the almost 200 hundred samples collected?

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/not-single-hair.html
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