Re: Mccanns' book 'Madeleine' & related articles

by **Jill Havern** 04.04.11 13:28

aiyoyo wrote:
being a quack: a quack psychologist who complicates everyone's problems.

Sorry guys, I am thinking the hypothetical abductor is complicating issue for everyone hence 'the quack' - wrong?

ok, thought you meant quaking in their boots, rather than making duck impersonations! winkwink

by aiyoyo 05.04.11 3:48

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thank you!

Does any know whether the mccann can refuse to attend their own instigating libel trial?
I would have thought not, otherwise Amaral will win by default isnt it?

Amaral will win anyway whether the mccann show up or not, except if they refused to show up it would deprive team Amaral the chance to ask to quiz them. At most they could refuse to answer questions which will likely be what's going to happen which wouldnt look good to the Judge.
Either way they're between a rock and v hard place.

I'm sure they are looking forward to attending and answering under oath. Mccanns' book 'Madeleine' & related articles - Page 2 181154

Mccanns' book 'Madeleine' & related articles - Page 2 181154

Not attending can be contrued badly on them as how can they file those charges then refuse to stand their ground. On one of their charges ie depression, why werent they depressed after Maddie went missing, why 2-/12 years later post Amaral's book.
Besides if they are really depressed as they claimed how come they are out and about raising fund? How come km can function and still pen a book? Seems they're not depressed when it comes to money hey!

by Angelique 07.04.11 2:06

I agree it's not going to be easy for the McCanns to prove that their health has been affected by GA's Book.

Kate said herself a fews days after Madeleine went missing that she was able to sleep through the night. So no issues with that then. If either of them were on medication they would have to show medical records of the fact - they are usually one step ahead of the game so have they really got proof - ie. medication/prescription records. It would have to have appropriate dates to correlate to when his Book was on sale. How are they going to separate the affect of the "abduction" as opposed to the affect of GA's Book. Or am I missing something ?

by aiyoyo 07.04.11 3:21

If they've got medical certification for depression, what about the twins welfare?

Wonder which of the mccanns claimed they suffered depression - kate or gerry? Both seem to still function normally with gm still going to work and kate's writing a book.

by **Tony Bennett** 07.04.11 17:30

Angelique wrote:I agree it's not going to be easy for the McCanns to prove that their health has been affected by GA's Book.

Kate said herself a few days after Madeleine went missing that she was able to sleep through the night. So no issues with that then...

Their health was very bad though. So bad that we thought the General Medical Council should be contacted to review the McCanns' 'fitness to practice'.

Here's an extract from our letter, in which we told the GMC exactly what the McCanns had claimed about their health when they served their writ on Goncalo Amaral back in early summer 2009:

The Madeleine Foundation

Combating child neglect

Website: www.madeleinefoundation.org.uk

Monday 13 July 2009

Chairman,
Fitness to Practise Committee,
General Medical Council,
St. James’s Buildings
79 Oxford Street
MANCHESTER
M1 6FQ.

Dear Sir/Madam

re: Fitness to Practise: Dr Gerald McCann and Dr Kate McCann (formerly Dr Kate Healy)

I write to bring to your attention a report about the above couple, both doctors, published in the Sunday People yesterday.

Dr Gerald McCann and Dr Kate McCann are the parents of Madeleine McCann, who was reported missing by her mother at around 10.00pm on Thursday 3 May 2007. The circumstances of her disappearance remain mysterious and as yet unsolved. They were made official suspects of involvement in their daughter’s disappearance in September 2007, a status that lasted until July 2008 when the Portuguese judicial authorities concluded that at that time there was insufficient evidence to charge them or anyone else with a crime against Madeleine.

Yesterday, the Sunday People published an article based on what they said was a 34-page libel writ served in Portugal against Goncalo Amaral. The McCanns and their advisers have already announced in the press that they intended to sue Mr Amaral for libel. Mr Amaral was the senior investigating officer in the case until he was removed from the investigation in controversial circumstances in October 2007. A month earlier, he was the man responsible for declaring the McCanns to be official suspects in their daughter’s disappearance.

The Sunday People says it has translated the libel writ from the Portuguese. The McCanns are claiming damages of £1 million from Mr Amaral. I wish to bring to your attention the medical and psychological condition of these two doctors, one of whom continues to practise, and both of whom we understand to be on the GMC Register.

The writ says of Dr Kate McCann that she is ‘deeply and seriously depressed”. The writ goes on to describe both of the McCanns as suffering from:

· permanent anxiety,
· insomnia,
· lack of appetite,
· irritability,
· indefinable fear.

In the writ, according to the Sunday People, the McCanns further describe both of themselves as:

· “totally destroyed”,
· “irreparably damaged”, and
· “totally destroyed from a moral, social, ethical, emotional and family point of view”.

The question that arises is whether either of these doctors is fit to practise or indeed to remain on the GMC Register, at least until these serious psychological problems, suggestive of mental illness, subside. We suggest that the appropriate committee of the GMC should consider (a) suspending them from the GMC until a psychiatrist deems that they have recovered from the above symptoms and (b) providing them with the expert psychiatric help and counselling that anyone exhibiting such severe symptoms should receive from the N.H.S. Presumably if the McCanns are exhibiting these symptoms there are reports available from their G.P. or a psychiatric specialist confirming those symptoms.

The other possibility of course, is that the McCanns are grossly exaggerating the extent of their depression or even lying about it, in order to make as much money as possible from Mr Amaral. If that were the case, there would definitely be a whole series of other questions about their fitness to remain in practice and remain on the GMC Register. Many videos and still images exist of the McCanns laughing and joking and appearing to be anything but severely depressed. That would suggest at least the possibility that they have deliberately exaggerated their sadness at and reaction to the loss of Madeleine in order to make as much money as possible from their proposed libel action...

by **PeterMac** 07.04.11 17:57

And did you ever get a reply ? (Rhetorical question !)

by **Tony Bennett** 07.04.11 20:00

PeterMac wrote:And did you ever get a reply? (Rhetorical question!)

PeterMac,

Actually, yes, we did get a reply. I can't lay my hands on it immediately, but will post it up if I find it.

The gist of it was that our letter provided 'insufficient grounds' for the GMC to investigate any further.

I'm not sure, however, that I would want to be treated by a cardiologist who was suffering from:

"...permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability, indefinable fear and who felt totally destroyed, irreparably damaged, and totally destroyed from a moral, social, ethical, emotional and family point of view".

Still, I think we made our point, and at least one person at the GMC also had a free read of '60 Reasons'.

by **PeterMac** 07.04.11 22:37

The GMC were notoriously slow over Harold Shipman, as I remember. They took his drug habit into account but failed to strike him off, or put any form of supervision in place, with the result that he became probably the UK's most prolific serial murderer.
But we can trust the GMC's judgment on the McCanns, I feel sure !