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Post by Verdi 03.07.22 14:39

The Sonia Poulton interview with Dr Mark Perlin in isolation..

Dr. Mark Perlin discusses the Madeleine McCann case with Sonia Poulton on Rise with BNT.

35:51 minutes

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Dr. Mark Perlin discusses the Madeleine McCann case with Sonia Poulton on Rise with BNT.

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Post by Liz Eagles 03.07.22 19:23

Perlin cannot help himself by introducing the fear factor of not using his service.

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Post by Liz Eagles 03.07.22 19:41

I don't understand why Perlin speaks to low stream media about what he claims to be an innovative scientific breakthrough.
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Post by Verdi 04.07.22 1:20

It's a good marketing ploy.

Indeed, why did Dr Mark Perlin first showcase his product through the medium of an Australian media outlet - Mark Saunokonoko.

My thoughts are always, if you and/or your product are that good - why the need to promote through small time irrelevant service platforms.  Surely a home court of law speaks louder than a cross continent mouthpiece with little or no influence with criminal proceedings?

I maintain the belief the Portuguese police and the Metropolitan police dismissed the free offer of a trade mark cybergenetic company because it's worth was of no consequence.  OK, throw a few mud pies in the direction of Operation Grange, that's perfectly acceptable but in the process destroying the reputation of the Portuguese police is totally unacceptable.  They may have made a few fundamental mistakes but I don't think they can be accused of deliberate subterfuge.

Humour Perlin?  Give him a voice?  It doesn't matter much if his product right or wrong just as long as he's given the opportunity?

A case scenario ....

Dr McCan't walks into Leicester General Infirmary with an offer of a free heart transplant procedure using an undisclosed, secret, methodology involving the theory of cybergenetics - artificial intelligence/algorithm.

Do you accept the gesture without conditions or do you consider the patient's prognosis.

You take the plunge and the patient dies - what then?  

Blame the computer or take responsibility for a very bad decision?  You can't sue a computer but you can sue the body responsible for the product.

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Post by crusader 04.07.22 9:29

Did Perlin ask to do a podcast with Saunokonoko or did 9 news contact him?

Perlin's method has been used in American court cases, was this before or after the Saunokonoko podcast?

The dogs found what was invisible to the police, maybe Perlin could do the same with the DNA results.
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Post by PeterMac 04.07.22 10:00

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Reproduced with the kind permission of Dr. Mark Perlin. The email sent to Operation Grange in 2019. British taxpayers must demand The Met take up this offer. This seriously has the potential to solve the mystery of what happened to Madeleine McCann.

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Post by Liz Eagles 04.07.22 14:38

The above letter to OG ends with 'Best Regards - Mark'.

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Post by crusader 04.07.22 14:41

How else could he end it?  laugh
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Reading the body text of this missive, I can't see an introduction which is strange to me.

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Post by Silentscope 04.07.22 14:58

I would hope Herr Fülscher asks Dr Perlin to re-test the Red body hair found on Diana Menkes bed.

Seeing as CB has already been not only Charged, but Convicted because of that ‘Evidence’.
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Reproduced with the kind permission of Dr. Mark Perlin. The email sent to Operation Grange in 2019. British taxpayers must demand The Met take up this offer. This seriously has the potential to solve the mystery of what happened to Madeleine McCann




This could happen if everyone who wants this signs the petition
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Post by Verdi 04.07.22 16:36

'Gamechanger' in Madeleine McCann mystery waits patiently while cold case continues to stagnate

By Mark Saunokonoko • Senior Journalist

9:02am May 21, 2019 [that month again]

It's remarkable to think that a double PhD holder quietly living in Pittsburgh, USA, a man who has never set foot in Portugal, could be the one capable of triggering the biggest breakthrough in the Madeleine McCann cold case in a decade.

What's maybe even more remarkable is that the UK's largest police force appear disinterested in allowing world-leading DNA expert Dr Mark Perlin to intervene in the Madeleine mystery.

The Madeleine McCann case appears to have been stuck in a state of relative stagnation since Portuguese police shelved their 14-month investigation way back in 2008 and Scotland Yard launched its own inquiry, Operation Grange, in 2011.

Operation Grange have sat on Dr Perlin's pro bono offer for over a year. DCI Nicola Wall, head of Operation Grange, is yet to acknowledge Dr Perlin's formal approach, which detailed his record of assisting UK law enforcement since the early 2000s.

In the meantime, DCI Wall has gone back to the UK Home Office reportedly requesting more than $500,000 of tax payer funds to keep Operation Grange up and running. Some former Scotland Yard officers who spoke to nine.com.au expressed their concern over what they claim is a blinkered Operation Grange remit.

Dr Perlin said his testing methods can solve at least 18 DNA samples which were frustratingly ruled inconclusive by a British laboratory, the Forensic Science Service, in 2007. Those samples were taken from the McCann living room, around and under a blue two-seat sofa, and inside the boot compartment of a rental car which was hired 25 days after Madeleine went missing.

Colin Sutton, a top retired Scotland Yard detective, believes in light of Dr Perlin's offer Operation Grange could be a sitting on "a real game changer".

Since the DNA revelations were first aired in nine.com.au's hit podcast Maddie, Dr Perlin's offer has been heavily reported on by worldwide media. But despite persistent reminding by the Maddie podcast, Scotland Yard’s only response to date has been: "It will not provide a running commentary" on the case.

Two years in the making, the multi-episode Maddie podcast investigation quickly hit number 1 in the United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand iTunes charts. Since its March release, Maddie has been downloaded almost 2 million times.

Dr Perlin and the dramatic DNA revelations were undoubtedly one of the most significant pieces of new information to emerge in Maddie.

But a sudden appearance near the end of the series by Goncalo Amaral, the former Portuguese detective who led the 2007 investigation for five months before he was removed from the case, also produced some seismic allegations.

'Concealed' Police Statements

In Mr Amaral's interview, a rarity for English-speaking media, he claimed Scotland Yard's Operation Grange was looking to wrap up its seven-year inquiry and was targeting a German paedophile. Mr Amaral claimed the German, a known child sex offender currently in prison, had not committed the crime in his opinion and would be a "scapegoat".

Mr Amaral also claimed that in 2007 British police had initially buried some statements that could have assisted his team's investigation. According to Mr Amaral, Portuguese police had requested further information about a potential person of interest, who may have had links to an international paedophile ring.

"The British police said there was absolutely nothing [of importance related to that person]," Mr Amaral said on Maddie.

"Of course at the time when the British police stated that they did not have any information they already had the statements [which were allegedly concealed from the Portuguese until late 2007]."

Mr Amaral said "it would have changed everything" if his team of detectives had been given those statements back in May 2007.

Both Leicestershire Police and Scotland Yard refused to comment on Mr Amaral's allegations that some UK police officers had withheld statements, impeding the inquiry.

The former Portuguese detective outlined a theory about what may have happened to Madeleine in his controversial 2008 book.

The 22-chapter The Truth of the Lie alleged Maddie died in apartment 5A, her abduction was simulated and the body somehow disposed of. His book became the focal point of a protracted and bitter legal feud with the McCanns. It was a fight the McCanns initially won, then lost in the Supreme Court after an appeal was lodged.

In Maddie, Mr Amaral also revealed that, acting on a tip off, his team of detectives had been trying to locate a mystery apartment somewhere in or around Praia da Luz when he was pulled off the case in October 2007. A deep freezer or fridge in the apartment could have been storing Madeleine's body before it was hidden forever, Mr Amaral claimed.

Two Significant Sightings

A US criminal profiler, Pat Brown, explored a different theory in Maddie, that Madeleine's body may have been moved two times before being disposed of in a place nobody had ever discovered.

Ms Brown speculated a man took Madeleine's body away from the apartment in a panic late on the night of May 3 and placed it in a temporary hiding place, near the beach. She theorised that same man may have returned to the body before sunrise on May 4, to move it to a safer place, where it remained hidden for some weeks before being moved a final time to a more remote location where it was less likely to ever be discovered.

The theories of Ms Brown, who visited Praia da Luz assessing key locations and routes in the town, are covered in detail in episode three and episode 10 of the Maddie podcast.
In August 2007 a specialist cadaver and blood dog team from England was sent for by Portuguese police, which may have motivated the offender to move the body one final time, possibly using a car. Madeleine's body could have been taken into the remote countryside, or perhaps disposed of in a dumpster somewhere in the surrounding area.

Ms Brown said the still unidentified man an Irish family spotted at 10pm on the night of May 3, carrying a motionless, barefoot girl in pyjamas towards the beach – which became known as "the Smith Sighting" - was, in her opinion, the likely offender.

The other significant sighting from the night of May 3 came from Jane Tanner, a British friend of the McCanns who was part of the group holiday. Ms Tanner said she had witnessed a man carrying a girl away from the direction of apartment 5A at around 9:15pm, on May 3.

Ms Tanner's sighting reportedly occurred at exactly the same time she walked past Mr McCann and another British holidaymaker, Jeremy Wilkins, a filmmaker from London, on a quiet lane close to 5A.

Ms Tanner's sighting put Mr McCann on the street at the same time a potential abductor was walking away with his daughter, Madeleine.

The Crime Scene

In the podcast, doubts over aspects of Ms Tanner's sighting were raised several times by various experts who have analysed or worked on the case. One of those people was Joseph Moura, an American private detective hired in 2007 by US broadcaster CBS News to investigate the case.

Mr Moura said he disregarded Ms Tanner's statement, and labelled it "erroneous". As part of his CBS brief, Mr Moura worked undercover at the Ocean Club Resort for a week, spending time with employees and especially workers at the tapas restaurant where the McCanns and their friends ate each night. Mr Moura claimed he had doubts about the entire checking system the group said they operated on the night of May 3.

The McCanns said a predator must have been watching them as they left the kids alone while they ate dinner with their friends. An abductor snatched Madeleine from her bed, they said.

Mr and Mrs McCann, both doctors from Rothley, Leicestershire, have strenuously denied they were involved in the disappearance of their daughter, and nine.com.au does not suggest any involvement on their part.

Portuguese police considered there appeared to be no forensic evidence of someone breaking into 5A, and adding to the complexity surrounding the case, Mr McCann's first two police statements gave differing accounts of which door he used to enter the apartment, and which doors were and weren't locked.

Mrs McCann said when she checked on Madeleine and the twins, Sean and Amelie, at 10pm, she found Maddie's bed empty and the bedroom window wide open. She described the metallic window shutters up, and the curtains blowing. Mrs McCann said a breeze blew the kids' bedroom door shut in her face.

A former Nottinghamshire police superintendent who appeared in the podcast described how he visited apartment 5A and checked the bedroom window. Peter MacLeod said the window was small, only 50cm wide. He claimed he "did not think it was possible" for someone to climb out of the window holding a small child.

Wikileaks and Madeleine


In the first few days of Madeleine going missing, reports began to appear in several UK newspapers quoting friends and family of the McCanns claiming the window shutters had been broken into or jemmied open. But Portuguese police said that was not the case, and believed there was no damage to the window or signs of forced entry. The only fingerprints they said were found on the children's bedroom window were those of Madeleine's mother, Kate.

British media were generally very critical of the Portuguese police investigation and the lead detective, Mr Amaral. The arrival of British police to assist in the investigation sometimes caused further tension between the two countries.

As documented in Maddie, notable was the immediate deployment and intervention of a number of British diplomats inside of 24 hours of Maddie going missing.

Although it had always been widely assumed and reported the Portuguese had turned the investigation towards Mr and Mrs McCann, a diplomatic cable from the US embassy in Lisbon which was leaked in 2010 by Wikileaks appeared to debunk that line of thinking.

Just two weeks after Mr and Mrs McCann were declared arguidos, formal suspects, the US ambassador to Portugal typed up a cable to Washington DC. The US ambassador, Al Hoffman, stated that during a private discussion with the UK ambassador he had been told "British police had developed the current evidence against the McCann parents”.

The evidence that the leaked US cable referred to largely reflected work carried out three months after Madeleine vanished by a highly specialised search team from the UK. That unit was comprised of Mark Harrison, the top search expert advisor to all police forces in the UK, and a dog handler named Martin Grime and his two dogs, springer spaniels Eddie and Keela.

The Dogs

Mr Harrison was called to Praia da Luz by Mr Amaral and his team with a remit to build a report solely focused on the increasing likelihood that Madeleine was dead. They wanted the UK national search guru to assess where and how someone could have disposed of Madeleine's body in or around the coastal Algarve town.

There were a number of locations Mr Harrison was interested in. He believed bringing Mr Grime and his two dogs, Eddie and Keela, to Portugal would be beneficial. During a week of intensive searches, the dogs, which arrived with apparent stellar credentials, alerted numerous times in the McCann holiday apartment, on several items of Mrs McCann's personal items and, most controversially, in and around a rental car hired 25 days after Madeleine was reported missing.

The work of cadaver and blood dogs needs to be corroborated by additional evidence, such as DNA or a confession. Forensic samples were taken from apartment 5A and the boot compartment of the silver Renault Scenic. The now closed Forensic Science Service in the UK tested the samples in late summer of 2007. The vast majority of those samples were judged to be "inconclusive".

In a final report, British FSS scientist John Lowe wrote that his lab was unable to solve most of the samples, including evidence from the car boot, because it was "too complex and challenging" for his testing methods, which are now viewed as outdated.

Dr Lowe's DNA report suddenly cast doubt on the work of the dogs, and the investigation limped on for almost another year before it was eventually shelved, with no Madeleine,
no arrests and no body. The McCanns ceased to be considered formal suspects by Portuguese police, and the British police considered they had been cleared of any involvement.

In the podcast, dog handler Martin Grime stated the work of his dogs, Eddie and Keela, had been misunderstood by many who claimed the alerts of his dogs had been wrong.

"People are missing the point," Mr Grime countered in Maddie. "The dogs' responses were confirmed by the recovery of DNA samples. Just because the analysis of those samples did not provide conclusive results you can't just trash what the dogs do."

Mystery Phone Call


Former Scotland Yard detective Colin Sutton was once tipped to lead London Metropolitan Police's Operation Grange, the UK strike force launched in 2011 to review and investigate Maddie's disappearance.

Mr Sutton solved numerous homicides while working for London's Metropolitan Police and brought serial killer Levi Bellfield and serial rapist Delroy Grant, known as The Nightstalker, to justice.

In evaluating various theories about what could have happened to Madeleine, from a stranger abduction through to involvement by someone known to the family, he said it was a truly bizarre and confounding crime.

"The difficulty that I have with it, is whichever way you look at it you've got to kind of believe something that is almost incredible," Mr Sutton said.

"[Each scenario] has a degree of incredible facts mixed in with it and you've got to kind of think to yourself, whichever of those it comes to be in the end ... the truth is actually a bit fantastic in this case. It is a wholly exceptional set of circumstances."

Mr Sutton openly questioned the remit of Operation Grange, which appeared to be focused on an abduction of Madeleine, and not open to other possible scenarios.

Around 2011, at the time he was being touted as a potential candidate to lead Operation Grange, Mr Sutton said he received a mysterious phone call from a high-ranking figure inside London Metropolitan Police.

"I was privately told by a senior officer that it was going to be an investigation where you were told what things you could and couldn't look at," Mr Sutton said.

"The remit and the focus of Operation Grange has been so narrow that it probably was hobbled from the beginning and didn't really have a chance at succeeding."

Secret Scoping Report


However, Jim Gamble, the one-time head of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (CEOP) agency, expressed his confidence in Operation Grange and defended its remit.

Mr Gamble, who was involved in the official 2007 investigation through the deployment of CEOP behavioural analysts, said Madeleine's parents had already been thoroughly investigated by the Portuguese, and there was no need to go back over that ground.

It was a secret scoping report of the Portuguese investigation written by Mr Gamble which reportedly triggered the launch of Operation Grange, by the UK Home Office. In Maddie,

Mr Gamble said intelligence gathered from his analysts in Praia da Luz indicated Madeleine's parents were not involved in her disappearance.
He claimed the Madeleine mystery, the world's most famous missing person case, would be solved.

"I believe that in my lifetime we will actually find out what happened to Madeleine McCann," Mr Gamble said.

"There will be a break, whether it is DNA, whether it is someone who was involved, directly or indirectly, who has been struggling with their conscience, who actually saw something on that night that they kept to themselves.

'Whitewash'

The world-renowned testing methods offered by Dr Mark Perlin appears to fit the kind of DNA breakthrough which Mr Gamble hopes could blow this 12-year-old cold case wide open.

Despite numerous requests from nine.com.au, Scotland Yard, the UK Home Office and UK Prime Minister Theresa May's office has refused to comment on Dr Perlin's pro bono offer. Ms May was the Home Secretary who launched Operation Grange in 2011.

Nine.com.au have recently contacted Portugal's police, the Policia Judiciaria (PJ), with contact details for Dr Perlin and outlining how he could help the investigation. Dr Perlin, who has assisted prosecutors and law enforcement agencies worldwide, has sent formal offers to both Scotland Yard and the PJ.

Retired detective Goncalo Amaral said the PJ would likely ignore Dr Perlin's offer, just as Scotland Yard appears to have done. Mr Amaral claimed Operation Grange was a "whitewash" and an "image enhancement" operation.

"When I was dismissed from the investigation, the team that came in to replace me was only dedicated to archiving, to shelving the case. They had only had to go through the motions to achieve the archiving of the process," Mr Amaral said.

It would have been Madeleine's 16th birthday last weekend. It seems the only way of moving the investigation forward is a DNA breakthrough, the discovery of new evidence or a confession.

Nine.com.au is currently exploring other avenues to shake loose the DNA data and place it into the hands of forensic scientist Dr Perlin.

"Maybe their relationship with an individual has changed and they now reflect on it, and their conscience is weighing heavily."

https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-what-we-learned-in-maddie-podcast/f43be997-1692-4146-9c68-3ce5dd8bf375


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Post by Verdi 05.07.22 1:57

Liz Eagles wrote:Reading the body text of this missive, I can't see an introduction which is strange to me.

The salutation does appear rather familiar for such a formal offer.

It has been stated that Dr Mark Perlin has worked with the British police forces and the former Forensic Science Service - likely their paths have crossed in the past.

Which makes the whole scenario even more peculiar.

I think there are a lot of missing pieces to this saga. It helps to look closer at Mark Saunokonoko's brethren, his major contacts relative to the case of missing Madeleine McCann. Primarily twitter'ites and other purveyors of social mediocrity.

CMOMM/MMRG has no purpose other than to pursue justice in the name of Madeleine McCann, there is no pecuniary incentive nor career advancement. Just plain old fashioned care.

Anything else doesn't/shouldn't feature.

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