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Post by crusader 26.02.22 14:12

Murat had Balu's phone number it doesn't imply either of them were involved in Madeleine's disappearance, it's just a tenuous link between the two of them.
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Post by crusader 28.02.22 19:40

Linda McQueen said in her statement, she arrived on her first visit to Portugal on 12th to 19th May.

Alexander ( Sandy ) Cameron was there and he had a car, it was not the Renault Scenic that Kate and Gerry hired later.

Pat Cameron said in her rogatory statement, when they arrived in Portugal on 15th May, a friend lent them a car to use.
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Post by Vera Krista 28.02.22 20:40

but it would hard to dispose a body when the cameras are focused on you, your family and your friends, so how did the cadaver scent & bodily fluids end up in the rental car? (I am not McCann fan) I am just trying to figure out.

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Post by ShiningInLuz 28.02.22 21:45

Verdi wrote:
Bird131 wrote:Can anyone please provide any further details pertaining to the vehicles mentioned? Where for instance, was Robert’s car when he arrived from the UK? As a matter of interest, did Robert keep his vehicle for years thereafter, or did he sell it shortly after arriving back in Praia da Luz. Any clarity in relation to the afore-mentioned would be appreciated.

I think perhaps forum member and blogger ShinningInLuz might be able to offer some assistance here.

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Sorry, in 2007 I was living in England.

I had no interest in this case whatsoever until Operation Grange decided to dig up the centre of Luz in June 2014.  When I lived at the extreme north of Luz.

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Post by Verdi 01.03.22 0:16

Fair enough - it was worth a try.

I look on you as our Luz correspondent titter in chief.

Apart from the case in question I'm always interested in a personal perspective of life across the globe. How else can we know how others live?

Certainly not by what we read across the medias.

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Post by Verdi 07.03.22 16:03

crusader wrote:Linda McQueen said in her statement, she arrived on her first visit to Portugal on 12th to 19th May.

Alexander ( Sandy ) Cameron was there and he had a car, it was not the Renault Scenic that Kate and Gerry hired later.

Pat Cameron said in her rogatory statement, when they arrived in Portugal on 15th May, a friend lent them a car to use.
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Post by Verdi 03.08.22 13:40

Something niggling .... I'm sure somewhere along the line - an official source. I read group member Russell O'Brien had use of a car.

I've been looking at his rogatory statement, alas I was bogged-down by the gibberish -it's very difficult to understand what he's talking about, I did however come across this little gem..

1578 “Did you see Kate and Gerry inside a car during the holidays'

Reply “Err no not during the holiday err you know obviously the hire car err business is well known, I, I mean, I don’t think there was any of us had a car err or saw, or there was any access to a car until sort of Gerry’s family all came, Gerry’s family had come over and hired a car when they came. So there was a car around after that but I don’t actually particularly remember err much about Kate and Gerry using it, I think on a couple of occasions, if I think closely, I think they may have driven down to the church just to try and keep the, the, the crowds and things off them. Err but certainly in terms of, the quote “holiday”, that was, you know they didn’t not have a car.”

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Post by Jill Havern 03.08.22 14:10

Who said that ^^^? Rachel Oldfield?

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Post by Verdi 03.08.22 16:52

Rachel Oldfield's version of the truth..

Rogatory statement

1578 'Did you see Kate or Gerry inside any car during the holiday period''

Reply 'During the whole time that we were there, or just, or up to the third of May or, I mean I never saw them in a car the whole time, I mean there was no car'.

1578 'Answers the question then'.

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Post by Verdi 03.08.22 17:12

Patricia Cameron Statement 15 April 2008
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Statement from Patricia Cameron
Occupation : Nurse

Date 15th April 2008

I am Gerry McCanns oldest sister, he is the youngest of five children. I'm married to Sandy Cameron and we have an adult son.

Snipped..

We went to Manchester and stayed at a friends house before catching the first flight of the morning, on Saturday 5th May 2007.

We arrived in Portugal on Saturday morning, where a friend lent us a car to use and we went to Praia da Luz.

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Post by Bird131 05.08.22 0:42

The "available car" was mainly in reference to 30th April (2007), when the Sagres trip was mentioned ... and the same time Madeleine's body probably had to be moved from the Ocean Club and taken to a "place of safety". By then, RM had almost certainly been contacted to organize much-needed assistance (because the 9 couldn't dare risk hiring a car for a day or two shortly before an "abduction"). RM's dear friend SM in Praia da Luz had an "available car" for just such an emergency (it could be argued that CB was also "in the area" and had an available camper!). Months later and in the same holiday town, SM's vehicle was suspiciously destroyed in a mystery fire/blast. The event occurred months after the "game-changing" cadaver was discovered in 5A and the hired Renault Scenic. Was SM's car destroyed in an act of pure vandalism, or was it a precaution in case someone suggested it be tested for the presence of cadaver?
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Post by Verdi 05.08.22 1:01

You're confusing me, I thought all this had been covered up-thread..

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As for Christian Brueckner, if that's who you mean by CB .... a red herring beyond shadow of doubt, at least until some tangible evidence comes forth.!

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Post by Bird131 05.08.22 14:07

Thanks Verdi for your reply ([You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) and yes, the matter has been thoroughly discussed. In the latest previous comments made, I noted the cars being discussed all played a role after 3rd May 2007. My interest in the thread relates to any car/s used by any of the 9 persons before the "abduction".
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Post by Verdi 05.08.22 15:56

Yes, I know where your interests lie, sorry again for taking your thread slightly off topic.

I have a tendency to whizz about all over the place when searching for something specific. I use the forum to jot down things I find interesting or potentially relevant, otherwise I lose track - as I have clearly done regards Russell O'Brien and my recollection he had access to a vehicle during the holiday.

Also, there is a remote possibility the availability of a vehicle after the event could lead to the same vehicle being available before Thursday 3rd May 2007 - if you get my drift.

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Post by crusader 05.08.22 17:23

James Sperry and his wife Clare, Friends of Jane Tanner had a hire car.
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