Re: Alternative Theorizing

by Verdi 25.10.23 21:03

If you can find an incontrovertible link between Gerry McCann and one or both the Podesta brothers, or any of their clique, I should be truly astounded.

by Silentscope 25.10.23 21:08

I was concentrating on clearing up the Madeleine aspect.

Scott Morisson was the Australian Prime Minister. He had a friend whose own family reported him for his QAnon views including Ritual Satanic stuff.

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That is where the Satanic angle came in.

by **sharonl** 25.10.23 21:10

Verdi wrote:If you can find an incontrovertible link between Gerry McCann and one or both the Podesta brothers, or any of their clique, I should be truly astounded.

I too would be astounded if there was a link to Gerry. But when you consider people like Sir Clement Freud and others like him who support the McCanns, you may well wonder where all these people hang out. Just look at Saville's group of friends, and Epsteins.

by Verdi 25.10.23 21:24

As I've said before, I don't think Freud can be considered as anything but a bloke who happened to be in Portugal at the time.

The meeting I shouldn't wonder was arranged by Clarence Mitchell.

What went on during that meet, or any other, has been related by the McCanns alone and I wouldn't trust their word. They no doubt thought it good PR to have their names linked to a Freud, albeit a somewhat dubious Freud.

I'm not at all happy about going down the paedophile route without something positive to work on.

As I've said, many attempts have been made over the years to link Gerry McCann's name with something unsavoury - not one of those suggestions have proved to be sound, or even plausible or even possible.

The Gaspars? I think I've said all I have to say in the past, so I'll leave you to it. Unless I see something erroneous, then I will be here to happily correct any misunderstanding.

ETA: As for any connection with Hilary Clinton and satanic ritual as has been suggested in the past - I despair!

by Silentscope 25.10.23 21:39

I do not think anyone will find a Link between the McCanns and the Podesta brothers.

But the Podestas were most likely used as a baseline by someone to generate the Efits.

by **sharonl** 25.10.23 22:26

Silentscope wrote:I do not think anyone will find a Link between the McCanns and the Podesta brothers.

But the Podestas were most likely used as a baseline by someone to generate the Efits.

Exactly.

There is a definite coverup but why? And, why are there so many high profile people so keen to assist this coverup? What have they got to hide?

by Silentscope 26.10.23 8:05

Why would anyone use an innocent Birthday party photograph to smear both PM Scott Morrison and Dr Gerald McCann?
Along with the Podesta brothers?

Who benefits?

thinking

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REFERENCES TO PAEDOPHILIA IN RELATION TO THE DISAPPEARANCE OF MADELEINE MCCANN Paedophilia and paedophiles are words from which we naturally recoil. It is by no means a new phenomenon. There are many other words we use to refer to paedophiles: kiddie-fiddlers, nonces, child sexual abusers, child sex offenders and so on. Some of the crimes committed by paedophiles are scarcely believable in their brutality; other offences by them are mercifully less serious. One thing seems certain, such crimes are on the increase and are often severe in their long-lasting effects on those abused. There is widespread agreement that the internet is a major cause of any increase in this vile crime. It is an unpleasant fact that the subject of paedophilia has frequently been associated in some way with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, very regrettable though that is. Here, for the record, we give a brief summary of some of these references: 1. Dr Gerry McCann said on the day Madeleine was reported missing that Madeleine had been taken by a paedophile Leaving aside for a moment the lack of direct evidence that Madeleine was abducted at all, there clearly is also no direct evidence whatsoever that, if Madeleine was abducted, that it was a paedophile who took her. Yet the McCanns themselves, on the very evening that Madeleine was reported missing, claimed she had been snatched by one or more paedophiles. That was a remarkable thing for them to say right from the first minute they reported Madeleine as missing. She might for example have wandered out of her room and out of the flat. 2. The McCanns and their team repeatedly said that Madeleine had been taken by a paedophile or a gang of paedophiles In the months that followed her reported disappearance, the McCann Team made numerous references, counted in dozens, to the probability that Madeleine had been abducted by paedophiles. 3. One of the McCanns’ close friends, a General Practitioner, said that on a previous holiday together, one of Dr Gerald McCann’s best friends, Dr David Payne, had made sexualised remarks and gestures about Madeleine On 16 May 2007, just 13 days after Madeleine disappeared, Dr Katarina Gaspar made this statement: “One night, when all the adults, that is, from those couples I have mentioned above, were all sitting around on a patio outside the house where we were all staying. We had been eating and drinking ‘Berbers’. I was sitting between Gerry and Dave and I think both were talking about Madeleine. I can't remember the conversation in its entirety, but they seemed to be discussing a particular scenario. I remember Dave saying to Gerry something about ‘she’, meaning Madeleine, ‘would do this’. “While he mentioned the word ‘this’, Dave was doing the action of sucking one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, while with his other hand he was doing a circle around his nipple, with a circular movement around his clothes. This was done in a provocative way. There seemed to be an explicit insinuation about what he was saying and doing. I remember being shocked by that. I always felt it was something very weird and that it was not something anyone should say or do. I looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to gauge their reactions. “I looked around as if saying: “Did someone else hear that, or was it just me?”. The conversations stopped for a moment, then we all began conversing again. Moreover, I remember Dave doing the same thing on another occasion. In saying this, I want to mention once again that it was during a conversation in which he was talking about an imaginary scenario, although I’m not sure. “He again stuck one of his fingers in and out of his mouth and with the other hand he once again drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual way. I think he was referring to the way she, that is, his daughter Lily, would behave or what she would do. I think he did this later during this same holiday, but I'm not sure. “The only time since then that I have been in the company of Dave and Fiona was several weeks after the holidays, when Savio and I met Gerry, Kate, Dave and Fiona in a restaurant in Leicester. I’m sure that he said what he said and made the gestures I have related, but [the second time] it could have happened in the restaurant in Leicester, although I do think it was in Majorca that I heard Dave say and do this for the second time. After the second occasion [when he made these gestures] I took it more seriously. “I remember thinking whether he would look at my daughter and other little girls in a different way than I or others do. I imagined that he had perhaps visited internet sites related to little children. In a word, I thought that he could be interested in child pornography on the web. During our holiday in Majorca, each parent would bath the children in turn. I was keen to stay near the bathroom if Dave was bathing the children. “I remember I said to Savio to be careful and to be close by if Dave was helping to bathe the children and my daughter in particular…” 4. Dr Katarina Gaspar’s husband, also a General Practitioner, Dr Arul Savio Gaspar, confirmed this event: “During the period we stayed at the villa I remember a gesture made by David Payne. I do not remember the context of the conversation between David and Gerry, but I do remember seeing David use his left index finger to rub his nipple, using circular movements, whilst he put his right index finger into his mouth, touching his tongue. This happened during a meal, at the end of the day, in the villa. I do not remember the time or the date, but we would usually dine between 7.30pm and 9.00pm every day. I think this happened in the middle of the holiday. “I remember that when I saw this gesture, I immediately thought it to be in very bad taste, independently of the context of the conversation they were having. We were sitting around a white plastic table in the villa. I don’t know if anyone else saw the gesture, apart from my wife Katherine”. 5. One of the suspects in the case, Robert Murat, was accused by two witnesses of having paedophile tendencies A couple of days after Robert Murat was taken in for questioning by the Portuguese Police and formally declared a suspect, Dr Gerald McCann was asked: “Did you already know Robert Murat?” Dr McCann brushed the question aside impatiently and said: “I am not going to comment on that”. That led many to consider that the two men did previously know each other. It is a very reasonable inference to draw from his evasive comment. Two witnesses claimed that Robert Murat had paedophile tendencies. One of them, who knew Murat well, made a detailed statement with some very graphic comments about Murat’s sexual preferences. The links for these statements are given on our website in a lengthy feature article about Robert Murat. The Portuguese Police discovered encrypted material on Murat’s computer after they seized it. Encryption is often used by those who view, download or exchange child pornography. Murat said he had ‘no idea’ why there was encrypted material on his computer. 6. Murat’s friend Sergei Malinka was also said to have child pornography on his computer A witness told Portuguese Police that Sergei Malinka, a friend of Murat who had worked on Murat’s website, also had an interest in child pornography and had child pornography on his computer. But the police found he had wiped all the data on his hard drive before the police examined it. 7. Jim Gamble, the Chief Executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), used the Madeleine McCann disappearance to highlight the danger of paedophiles Despite the high degree of uncertainty about what really happened to Madeleine, highlighted by their own spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, saying in March 2010 that her disappearance was ‘a complete mystery’, Jim Gamble, head of CEOP, relentlessly associated Madeleine with CEOP. This was despite the obvious fact that the McCanns on their own admission had left three young children, all aged under four, in a vulnerable situation - for six nights in a row - and clearly failed to protect them. Many questioned why an organisation with the words ‘Child Protection’ in its title should feature the McCanns so heavily, given their failure of child protection. Gamble, from 2007 onwards, heavily featured Madeleine on the CEOP website and in various CEOP publications. Around the time of the second anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance (17 months previous to the date of this article , he appeared together with the McCanns in a so-called one-minute ‘viral video’, strongly emphasising that Madeleine was still alive and needed to be found. Later he also appeared on morning news shows side by side with the McCanns. Still more significantly, he invited Dr Gerald McCann in January 2010 to be the keynote speaker at a conference on the abduction of children by paedophiles. Why Dr McCann was considered by Gamble to be qualified to contribute to that conference, never mind being the ‘keynote speaker’, given the raft of uncertainties about the circumstances in which Madeleine disappeared, has never been explained either by the McCanns or by Jim Gamble. Furthermore, it was reported - and confirmed by a Home Office Freedom of Information Act request - that in October 2009, the McCanns had a private interview with the McCanns. Following that, several press reports (not denied) indicated that the Home Secretary asked Jim Gamble to recommend a new British police force to carry out a review and possibly a re-investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance. Some reports suggested that he had recommended West Yorkshire Police to carry out such a review. But the Home Office was unwilling to confirm or deny this. It was baffling why the Home Secretary, knowing Jim Gamble’s extreme closeness to the McCanns, should choose him to recommend who should carry out any review into Madeleine’s disappearance. 8. In the days before this article was written, Jim Gamble told the Home Secretary, Theresa May, that he was resigning from his post as CEOP Chief Executive, a resignation she swiftly accepted. The McCanns put out statements strongly supporting him, thanking him for his work on their behalf, and querying the Coalition government’s decision to incorporate CEOP within the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA). They described his departure in graphic terms as ‘a huge loss to child protection’. These comments pointed inexorably, once again, to the conclusion that there was a very close ‘tie’ between the McCanns and Jim Gamble. The McCann Team in conjunction with Jim Gamble of CEOP published a video about Madeleine and circulated it round the internet which many believed showed her inappropriately posed in heavy make-up In 2010, Jim Gamble once again co-operated with the McCanns to make a another video about Madeleine. The video in question featured three images of Madeleine. One very striking one shows her in an unusual pose, shot by the photographer from well below her face, wearing make-up, including much blue eyeshadow, lipstick and jewellery, and looking unhappy. The McCanns publicly claimed that ‘the photo shows her when she was three after a raid on the dressing box’. However, it is very unlikely that Madeleine could have put the necklace on herself, nor applied eyeshadow in the manner shown in the photograph, nor applied the pink bow to her hair. The evidence from the photograph suggests that an adult made her up and of course an adult was on hand to take that particular image of her. The McCanns did not say who took the photograph. Even if Madeleine had ‘raided the dressing box’, as claimed, it is one thing to take a photo of something like that for your family photo album, but altogether another matter to release it for millions to see. The McCanns explicitly approved the very public release of this video and the images on it. As one newspaper reported: “Parents of Madeleine McCann, who went missing three years ago, have released a new video and photo of their missing daughter to mark the third anniversary of the girl's disappearance”. The photo the McCanns specifically chose to highlight in the video was the one with Madeleine wearing heavy make-up, apparently applied by an adult and not by herself. There was strong adverse reaction by many members of the public to this image being used in connection with a missing child. Not least was the opinion of Mr Mark Williams-Thomas, a former police detective and now leading criminologist and child protection expert, who has often in the past spoken with strong sympathy and understanding for the McCanns. His unambiguous reaction to this particular photograph, promoted on his ‘Twitter’ blog, was that it was ‘so inappropriate’ and ‘so damaging’. We agree with him. The McCanns have from the day Madeleine was reported missing claimed explicitly and on many occasions that Madeleine must have been abducted by a paedophile, or paedophiles, often described by them as ‘predatory’, ‘evil’, or ‘ monsters’. Yet the photo of Madeleine featured by her parents shows a child looking much older than her actual three years, due to the make-up and jewellery, as all the news media quickly picked up the following day. The McCanns said a number of times that they were advised by the police ‘not to show any emotion’ in front of the cameras. One newspaper reported, around the time the McCanns appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show: “The couple also admitted they had been advised not to show any emotion while in front of the media, because any potential abductor ‘may get a kick out of it’.” It was all the more surprising, therefore, that the McCanns should use this short video to project and promote an image of Madeleine which might well appeal to certain paedophiles, some of whom are unfortunately attracted to young children. One person commented on ‘Twitter’ about the direct promotion of this video by CEOP Chief Executive Jim Gamble, writing: “If CEOP endorse this type of public relations for a supposed missing child, then their role in child protection has to be questioned!” 9. The McCann Team have highlighted the possible involvement of a named paedophile, Raymond Hewlett, in the disappearance of Madeleine First they suggested that Hewlett was involved in Madeleine’s disappearance; latterly they have claimed that he gave an account of his knowledge of Madeleine’s disappearance in a letter he dictated to hospital staff in the weeks before he died. The claims made about this letter are highly improbable and we suggest that they are a complete fabrication. They have however been deliberately promoted by the McCann Team for 18 months. 10. The connection between Ray Wyre, paedophile ‘expert’ and the McCanns We’ve highlighted the connection between the late Ray Wyre and the McCanns in another article on our website, titled ‘Ray Wyre and the McCanns: What was the connection between the McCanns and the late paedophilia ‘expert’, Ray Wyre? There are at least four questions we would ask about this connection: Why was Wyre so keen, in two articles published four and seven days after Madeleine was reported missing, to insist so adamantly that she had been abducted? Why, in addition, did he emphasise the possibility that she had been snatched by a paedophile? Why did the McCanns agree to meet the Wyres at the their Buckinghamshire home? Was that meeting really much more about producing a helpful Sunday newspaper article than, as was claimed, about starting a new organisation for missing children? 11. (NEW - UPDATED 15 June 2016) The McCanns’ friend, Sir Clement Freud, exposed as a serial paedophile Following the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the McCanns had dinner with the late Sir Clement Freud and his wife, Lady Freud. They had a villa in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where the McCanns had been holidaying. They became friends with each other. There had been strong rumours for years that Clement Freud was a paedophile. These have now been confirmed in an article for the Daily Telegraph on 14 June 2016, in which it was stated that Lady Freud apologised for her husband;s conduct and that Operation Grange would now investigate links between Sir Clement Freud and the McCanns. Sir Clement died in 2009. Article filed by Tony Bennett, Secretary, The Madeleine Foundation, 10 October 2010 and updated by a Moderator on 15 June 2016

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by Silentscope 28.10.23 18:37

Gerry was reading a Book on Holiday by Jed Rubenfeld titled 'The Interpretation of Murder' a Bestseller 2006.

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To note: Clement Freud was also the Grandson of Sigmund Freud.

From the Advertising for that Book:

In the summer of 1909, Sigmund Freud arrived by steamship in New York Harbor for a short visit to America. Though he would live another thirty years, he would never return to this country. Little is known about the week he spent in Manhattan, and Freud's biographers have long speculated as to why, in his later years, he referred to Americans as "savages" and "criminals."

Enter the Podestas?

by Verdi 28.10.23 20:47

Enter the Podestas?

I doubt it, Freud was a bit before their time..

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Anthony Thomas Podesta (born October 24, 1943 age 80 years)

John Podesta (born: 8 January 1949 age 74 years),

You do know The Interpretation of Murder by Jed Rubenfeld is a novel - don't you?

Oh joy to the world!

by CaKeLoveR 29.10.23 9:39

I think these connections are a bit far flung; I imagine that Madeleine's case is more contained.

by Silentscope 29.10.23 9:59

I was referring to the Advertising for that Book which was first Published 2006.

It is more likely that someone with a Modern day (2006-07) Political Agenda used the Podestas as a basis for the Efits.

Someone who wanted them implicated in Madeleines 'disappearence'.
Someone who knew that John Podesta was running Hillary Clinton's Campaign?

Probably someone in the UK Establishment who wanted her to lose?

by Verdi 29.10.23 13:31

CaKeLoveR wrote:I think these connections are a bit far flung; I imagine that Madeleine's case is more contained.

To add impetus, I think these conjured connections are pure nonsense - the result of an over active mind with a generous helping of condiment to spice up the mix.

Seriously, a couple of middle Englanders with no criminal record nor any reason to arouse suspicion, rubbing shoulders with notorious suspected criminals. It's an embarrassment to even contemplate the notion.

Don't make me laugh!

by Silentscope 29.10.23 18:03

HILLARY FOR AMERICA CAMPAIGN 2016

CHAIRMAN: JOHN POSTEDA

SARAH LATHAM

Founded Latham Group in 2006.

Chief of Staff to the Chairman John Podesta (2016)

Special Adviser to the UK Secretary of Culture, Media and Sport.

Public Affairs Director in Freud Communications - and in 2005 worked for Tony Blair on his re-election campaigning. Where Clarence Mitchell worked for Matthew Freud.

Managing Director for Philip Gould Associates in London.
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Government Affairs Adviser for Microsoft Europe, Middle East and Africa.
Historical Information on the Post of Secretary for Culture.
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Special Adviser to White House Chief of Staff John Podesta and Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Director of Presidental Scheduling.

John Podesta's Chief of Staff in for Hillary 2016 was Sarah Latham. (see above). She was former communications director at public relations firm Freud Communications. That would be Mathew Freud, son of Clement Freud, known pedophile with a villa 1/3 of a mile from where Maddie was taken. McCann's were guests of C. Freud not long after the abduction. By my reckoning, that's three narrow degrees of separation down to a four minute jog from the hotel to Freud's villa.

Coupled with Wikileaks Podesta emails starting two days after Maddie's disappearance (one can infer all previous emails may have been deleted to cover travel/itinerary history, hence they were unavailable to Wikileaks) and the great lag of another six weeks until he makes another email and resumes anything that could be considered regular email traffic (one can infer several suspicious things here) a more direct connection cannot remotely be dismissed out of hand. If these are just coincidences, J &TP have to be considered two of the unluckiest men alive to have such coincidences befall them.
If there is any information that disproves the possibility of the more direct potential connection as just outlined, kindly respond with same.

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by crusader 29.10.23 18:27

All this nonsense started because Members of the Smith family were persuaded to make a photofit of the man they saw with a child in his arms at 10pm May 3rd 2007.
The two drawings are supposed to be of ONE man not two.
The Smiths never said they saw two men with a child, this needs to stop, it's all myth.
I don't care what their shoe colour is supposed to mean, they were not running down an alley with Madeleine in Praia da Luz in May 2007.

by Silentscope 29.10.23 19:02

I agree it is a Total load of Balls.

But there is an Agenda of disruption at play here.

The real Question is not was it the Podestas.

It is why someone wants us to believe that it could be a possibility.

by Verdi 29.10.23 19:18

crusader wrote:All this nonsense started because Members of the Smith family were persuaded to make a photofit of the man they saw with a child in his arms at 10pm May 3rd 2007.
The two drawings are supposed to be of ONE man not two.
The Smiths never said they saw two men with a child, this needs to stop, it's all myth.
I don't care what their shoe colour is supposed to mean, they were not running down an alley with Madeleine in Praia da Luz in May 2007.

Spot on crusader 2thumbs

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The e-fits are indeed of one man - not two.

Further more, Martin Smith thought the man he witnessed carrying a child on the streets of Luz on 3rd May 2007 was indeed Gerry McCann.

From: DC Hughes
Sent: Thursday, 20th September, 2007 15:42
CC: Prior Stuart
Re: FW: Smith Family

This is the Irish family that saw a man transporting a child on the night in question and returned to Portugal to collaborate with the investigation. Martin Smith contacted our department stating that after having observed the McCann family on TV alighting from the plane, he believes that the person he saw carrying the child that night was Gerry McCann. For your information.

DC John Hughes

John Podesta worked for the Hilary Clinton presidency campaign, his position was seriously compromised after his e-mail account was hacked, the content of his mail was leaked to a source revealed to have connections with the Trump administration and his longstanding allegiance to Russia. The Trump affiliates were trying to bring down the Clinton campaign for presidency, just as Trump appears to have interfered with Joe Biden's chances of presidency.

Together with Trump's more recent comments made in the public domain about his ability to halt the Russian/Ukrainian war within a few hours and likewise his ability to halt the situation in Gaza, shows Donald Trump to potentially be a very very dangerous man

Folk are at liberty to debate Podesta/Trump/Clinton to their hearts content elsewhere but I don't think CMOMM is the right platform to fertilize crap nor propagate nonsense conspiracy theory about the fate of little Madeleine McCann - her memory deserves more respect.

The mere notion the Podestas could be involve in any way shape or form with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is risible to say the least

Enough!

by Verdi 29.10.23 19:19

Silentscope wrote:I agree it is a Total load of Balls.

But there is an Agenda of disruption at play here.

The real Question is not was it the Podestas.

It is why someone wants us to believe that it could be a possibility.

Read back over your own posts yes

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by Silentscope 29.10.23 19:39

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All these old Members that have so few Posts always seem to Surface when things get interesting, or certain Topics come up.

by **sharonl** 29.10.23 23:24

Silentscope wrote:HILLARY FOR AMERICA CAMPAIGN 2016

CHAIRMAN: JOHN POSTEDA

SARAH LATHAM

Founded Latham Group in 2006.

Chief of Staff to the Chairman John Podesta (2016)

Special Adviser to the UK Secretary of Culture, Media and Sport.

Public Affairs Director in Freud Communications - and in 2005 worked for Tony Blair on his re-election campaigning. Where Clarence Mitchell worked for Matthew Freud.

Managing Director for Philip Gould Associates in London.
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Government Affairs Adviser for Microsoft Europe, Middle East and Africa.
Historical Information on the Post of Secretary for Culture.
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Special Adviser to White House Chief of Staff John Podesta and Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Director of Presidental Scheduling.

John Podesta's Chief of Staff in for Hillary 2016 was Sarah Latham. (see above). She was former communications director at public relations firm Freud Communications. That would be Mathew Freud, son of Clement Freud, known pedophile with a villa 1/3 of a mile from where Maddie was taken. McCann's were guests of C. Freud not long after the abduction. By my reckoning, that's three narrow degrees of separation down to a four minute jog from the hotel to Freud's villa.

Coupled with Wikileaks Podesta emails starting two days after Maddie's disappearance (one can infer all previous emails may have been deleted to cover travel/itinerary history, hence they were unavailable to Wikileaks) and the great lag of another six weeks until he makes another email and resumes anything that could be considered regular email traffic (one can infer several suspicious things here) a more direct connection cannot remotely be dismissed out of hand. If these are just coincidences, J &TP have to be considered two of the unluckiest men alive to have such coincidences befall them.
If there is any information that disproves the possibility of the more direct potential connection as just outlined, kindly respond with same.

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The White House yet again.

Have you read the threads on Ernie Allen, NCMEC, Catherine & Chris Meyer with Tony & Cherie Blair (PACT).

Blair was PM in 2007 and rushed to the aid of the McCanns, rapidly sending out Government officials to PDL and later he released the head of his media monitoring unit, Clarence Mitchell, to control the press on their behalf.

Furthermore, McCann benefactor, Richard Branson and his mother Eve Branson had strong links to PACT.

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by Silentscope 30.10.23 12:39

America has always had an Agenda with all these undocumented Children.

Look at the suppression on the ‘Cry for Freedom’ film in Europe.

My post on the Immigration thread that proves even Homeland have no idea how many are in America now, and where they are.

What are they doing with them all?

by Silentscope 05.11.23 11:57

Further information to Debunk the Satanic theory, but no Guest list found so far to rule out the Person being portrayed as Gerry McCann.

Washington Examiner

Techie lobbyist Tony Podesta painted his 65th birthday party red at the National Museum for Women in the Arts.
For his big night Friday, the K Street king was not particular about gifts. All he wanted were shoes, old or new, for the Soles4Souls shoe charity.
Known for his flamboyant fashion -- particularly his red kicks -- Podesta asked friends to wear red in his honor.
"I'm the Imelda Marcos of shoes," Podesta told Yeas & Nays.
Most attendees kept to the strict dress code, especially his colleagues who wore matching red loafers.
One associate gabbed to Yeas & Nays that their Giorgio Brutini shoes were purchased for the Podesta Group on Overstock.com with a price tag less than $100.
The theme party "was my wife's idea," Podesta confessed.
Heather Podesta, in bright red tights and matching peep-toe pumps, is on the board of the National Museum for Women in the Arts, where the couple has donated multiple pieces.
Unfortunately Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius didn't get the style memo: She was spotted at the event in strappy blue patent leather heels with a Band-Aid above her right eye.
Also in attendance: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., with husband Paul, Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., with husband Sidney, Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., John Podesta, Sen. Tom Udall, D-N.M., Rep. Shelley Berkley, D-Nev., Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn., and Realtor Frank Snellings, without wife Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., who was home working on a water bill.

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by Verdi 05.11.23 14:06

Topic moved to more appropriate forum thread.

Verdi

by Verdi 05.11.23 14:11

The person pictured at the Podesta party is not Gerry McCann, no need to rule him out - he was never in.

No need too debunk Satan or the Podesta brothers, no need to even consider a connection between Madeleine McCann's disappearance and the Podesta brothers because there isn't one.

The Podesta brothers were not used as a base for the e-fit image produced for the Crimewatch Madeleine McCann Special aired in October 2013.

What next ....

by Silentscope 06.11.23 17:08

Members might like to check out the following possible connection.

Oakley International was set up in the U.S by Patton Boggs.
They were another Lobbyist firm in New York who were in direct competition with the Podesta Group.

Sometime between December 2007 and February 2008, Andre Hollis (Vice President of Van Sycoyoc and regular Fox News commentator), Tim Unruh (from Patton Boggs) and probably Colonel John Garrett (also from Patton Boggs) set up Oakley International Group LLC, with Halligen also being involved.

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The ‘Podesta’ /Smithman Efits might have been a veiled warning to the Opposition, as the Podesta group were well known to Patton Boggs.

Excerpt: Washington Post

But one of the most unsettling chapters was Pizzagate, the debunked conspiracy theory that linked Hillary Clinton to a nonexistent child sex ring at Comet Ping Pong, a Washington pizza restaurant. The Podestas were fans, and friends with the owner, James Alefantis.

In the fall of 2016, John’s personal emails were hacked and released by WikiLeaks. An enthusiastic amateur chef, he made frequent references to food, which became the basis for a theory that the emails were code for sex trafficking and child pornography. Although completely unsubstantiated, it quickly became a viral sensation and appeared on alt-right websites and forums.

The restaurant was, as Alefantis put it, "terrorized" by threatening calls and letters. "I was inundated with death threats, sometimes many a day," he wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post.
In December, after watching a YouTube video about the conspiracy, a 28-year-old man stormed in with a rifle, firing shots but not injuring anyone.

“Watching John go through the Russians stealing his emails, then working to concoct sick conspiracy theories to hurt him and Hillary Clinton was one of the toughest things to see,” Palmieri says. “He acts like it doesn’t bother him, but it does.”

This came after another vicious conspiracy, floated just days before the election, that the Podesta brothers had secretly traveled to Portugal in 2007 and kidnapped Madeleine McCann, a British child at the center of an unsolved disappearance.

So it’s no surprise that Tony Podesta’s link to Mueller’s indictment of former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort has caused a frenzy.

The indictment says that Manafort recruited two firms (identified as “Company A” and “Company B”) to lobby on behalf of a supposedly independent Ukrainian nonprofit. The investigation into Manafort claims that he was in fact secretly working for then-Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.

Podesta and the other firm, Mercury Public Affairs, say that they were hired by the European Center for a Modern Ukraine, a nonprofit group based in Brussels, to boost Ukraine’s reputation in the United States and increase its chances of joining the European Union. Both firms insist that they were unaware of any connection to the Ukrainian government. The Podesta Group received $1.1 million between 2012 and 2014 from the organization.

Its representation was originally listed under the Lobbyist Disclosure Act but not the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), as required.

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