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The Better Angels Of Our Nature, a History of Violence and Humanity - Inner Demons

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The Better Angels Of Our Nature, a History of Violence and Humanity - Inner Demons

Post by Jill Havern on 11.08.17 9:47





Just came across this in Steven Pinker - The better Angels of Our Nature, a History of violence and Humanity.

The bit that stuck out was the sentence
"for pluralistic ignorance to be robust against little boys [Emperor's clothes story] and other truth-tellers, it needs an additional ingredient:   Enforcement

Exactly what we have with the McCanns and C-R ?

and "punishing heretics out of fear that they will be punished if they don't'" - Amaral.
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Post by Verdi on 11.08.17 12:46

"Why would someone punish a heretic who disavows a belief that the person himself or herself rejects?  Macy et al, speculate that it's to prove their sincerity - to show other enforcers that they are not endorsing a party line out of expedience but believe it in their hearts.  That shields them from punishments by their fellows - who may, paradoxically, only be punishing heretics out of fear that they will be punished if they don't..."

Don't know about the McCanns and C-R, seems to me to encompass the whole blooming shebang!

NB:  Interesting  thumbsup - I've never heard of the book.  Just goes to show, you learn something new everyday on CMoMM smilie .

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Post by polyenne on 11.08.17 13:25

What does page 680 say as I'm interested in the continuation of the bottom of page 679 starting "Macy & his collaborators found that unpopular norms can become entrenched in some, but not all, patterns of social connectedness. If the true believers are scattered throughout the population and everyone can interact with everyone else, the population is immune to being taken over by an unpopular belief. But if the true believers are clustered within...............

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Post by Jill Havern on 11.08.17 14:45




1026 page paper back ! !
Available on Amazon £ 11.89

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Better-Angels-Our-Nature-Violence/dp/0141034645/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502458523&sr=8-1&keywords=steven+pinker+better+angels+of+our+nature

The Better Angels of Our Nature: A History of Violence and Humanity: Amazon.co.uk: Steven Pinker: 9780141034645: Books

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Post by polyenne on 11.08.17 15:01

Thank you !

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