Celtic Boys Club: Allegations of Abuse

by Budman 08.05.17 21:35

Hi guys, iv just joined the forum to raise one point if i may, everyone may already be aware of what i have to say if so im sorry for wasting peoples time. If any of you are aware Celtic Football Club has a peodophile problem. Its been Scotland worse kept secret for decades, but no mainstream media will go near the story, rumours of political cover ups, catholic church, media all helping them out have been rife for decades. But in the past couple of weeks, 5 old Celtic employee's are in jail awaiting trial one of which was already convicted for his actions with the boys club lads and re-employed by the club, with the full knowledge of what had happened by this time directors and allsorts where rumoured to have been involved. Even the likes of Jimmy Saville and Cardinal Keith o Brien where regular visitors.All through the years breakthoughs where made and u thought good its going to come out, finally justice but no, it always seemed to slip away UNDER THE CARPET AGAIN. Anyway looks like now its possibly all going to come out.
On to Gerry, historically Celtic as a club have always attached themselves to causes to gain good public affection they are so merciless at this they have become known as "the ambulance chasers". So why are they not all over the find maddie campaign when afterall this is right up there steet to fawn fake public attention, when infact there club doctor in 2000 who seem's to have been wiped from the clubs memory was none other than Gerry McCann who at the time of moving from Scotland to England was rumoured to have been placed on some register. Could Gerry be another of the Celtic peodophile ring if so seeing the way the Catholic church and certain politicians have protected the institution that is Celtic could these very people be protecting the McCanns. People in Glasgow are fully investigating the goings on at Celtic and for some reason Gerry Mcann is popping into it .

by **sharonl** 08.05.17 21:44

Very interesting Budman

Welcome to the forum, and thank you for this information.

by sar 08.05.17 22:51

Budman wrote:Hi guys, iv just joined the forum to raise one point if i may, everyone may already be aware of what i have to say if so im sorry for wasting peoples time. If any of you are aware Celtic Football Club has a peodophile problem. Its been Scotland worse kept secret for decades, but no mainstream media will go near the story, rumours of political cover ups, catholic church, media all helping them out have been rife for decades. But in the past couple of weeks, 5 old Celtic employee's are in jail awaiting trial one of which was already convicted for his actions with the boys club lads and re-employed by the club, with the full knowledge of what had happened by this time directors and allsorts where rumoured to have been involved. Even the likes of Jimmy Saville and Cardinal Keith o Brien where regular visitors.All through the years breakthoughs where made and u thought good its going to come out, finally justice but no, it always seemed to slip away UNDER THE CARPET AGAIN. Anyway looks like now its possibly all going to come out.
On to Gerry, historically Celtic as a club have always attached themselves to causes to gain good public affection they are so merciless at this they have become known as "the ambulance chasers". So why are they not all over the find maddie campaign when afterall this is right up there steet to fawn fake public attention, when infact there club doctor in 2000 who seem's to have been wiped from the clubs memory was none other than Gerry McCann who at the time of moving from Scotland to England was rumoured to have been placed on some register. Could Gerry be another of the Celtic peodophile ring if so seeing the way the Catholic church and certain politicians have protected the institution that is Celtic could these very people be protecting the McCanns. People in Glasgow are fully investigating the goings on at Celtic and for some reason Gerry Mcann is popping into it .

+1 Budman, interesting possible connection, link. Same sewage seeping up from a different place.

by pieface 09.05.17 12:42

As I stated before John Reid was Home Secretary when Maddie went missing.He is also a former chairman of Celtic F.C.

by **Jill Havern** 09.05.17 12:47

Budman wrote:Hi guys, iv just joined the forum to raise one point if i may, everyone may already be aware of what i have to say if so im sorry for wasting peoples time. If any of you are aware Celtic Football Club has a peodophile problem. Its been Scotland worse kept secret for decades, but no mainstream media will go near the story, rumours of political cover ups, catholic church, media all helping them out have been rife for decades. But in the past couple of weeks, 5 old Celtic employee's are in jail awaiting trial one of which was already convicted for his actions with the boys club lads and re-employed by the club, with the full knowledge of what had happened by this time directors and allsorts where rumoured to have been involved. Even the likes of Jimmy Saville and Cardinal Keith o Brien where regular visitors.All through the years breakthoughs where made and u thought good its going to come out, finally justice but no, it always seemed to slip away UNDER THE CARPET AGAIN. Anyway looks like now its possibly all going to come out.
On to Gerry, historically Celtic as a club have always attached themselves to causes to gain good public affection they are so merciless at this they have become known as "the ambulance chasers". So why are they not all over the find maddie campaign when afterall this is right up there steet to fawn fake public attention, when infact there club doctor in 2000 who seem's to have been wiped from the clubs memory was none other than Gerry McCann who at the time of moving from Scotland to England was rumoured to have been placed on some register. Could Gerry be another of the Celtic peodophile ring if so seeing the way the Catholic church and certain politicians have protected the institution that is Celtic could these very people be protecting the McCanns. People in Glasgow are fully investigating the goings on at Celtic and for some reason Gerry Mcann is popping into it .

This was covered a Long time ago, but I thought the bloke had gone to prison in the 80s for offences years before that.
SO
Is there a new one popping up ?
GM was with the club in 2000+ before going south

Worth another look at the bolded sentence.

by pieface 09.05.17 15:57

Jim Torbett , founder of the boys club and scout,abused boys, was kicked out of the club and the club kept it quiet.He returned to the club when Jock Stein, the guy who kicked him out, died.
Torbett served a sentence for the first period.These new allegations relate to his second time at the club.He appearead in court in Glasgow last week.Torbett's company The Trophy Centre, employed two Celtic directors Kevin Kelly and Jack McGinn.

Frank Cairney,head of the boys club, appeared in court last week charged with historical offense.He was charged years ago at the same time as Torbett but 3 boys withdrew their evidence at the trial.

Jim McCafferty Celtic kit man for over ten years currently in jail in Belfast waiting trial for crimes against children in Northern Ireland and Scotland.

John Cullen 30 years official photographer at Celtic convicted a few years ago of indecent images of children.

Gerald King head of Celtic boys club appeared in court last month in Glasgow on historic child sex abuse case.

Gerry McCann worked for Celtic in the mid 90's when Tommy Burns was manager.
See CMOMM thread 20 09 2012 by butterfly: Doctor Gerry in Glasgow ,when and why did he come south?

John Reid was Home Secretary when MBM went missing and he later became Chairman of Celtic due to his long standing association with the club.

by pieface 09.05.17 16:01

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by pieface 09.05.17 18:31

The Celtic F.C. abuse that is being uncovered is on BBC TV tonight at 10.45 .
"The ugly side of the beautiful game" By Mark Daly
It was shown in Scotland a few weeks ago, tonight is the rest of the UK.

by speirssmells 15.05.17 11:46

Celtic youth player Lawrence Haggart was murdered in 1996 by paedophile William Beattie.
Jim McCafferty Celtic kitman at the time and currently remanded in prison in Belfast on sex abuse charges was a suspect as he had phoned the youth on the day of his murder.

Gerry McCann was the club doctor at the time.

by sar 15.05.17 11:49

speirssmells wrote:Celtic youth player Lawrence Haggart was murdered in 1996 by paedophile William Beattie.
Jim McCafferty Celtic kitman at the time and currently remanded in prison in Belfast on sex abuse charges was a suspect as he had phoned the youth on the day of his murder.

Gerry McCann was the club doctor at the time.

well well speirssmells, very interesting......

by **Jill Havern** 15.05.17 12:04

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by roz 15.05.17 18:23

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Prior to this - John Reid, Baron Reid of Cardowan (born 8 May 1947) was Home Secretary from 2006 to 2007 - under Blairs ministry. Blair handed over to Brown in June 2007.....

John Reid must have surely involved MI5 in May 2007 in the Mc Cann case unless political interference only begain after Brown took over with Jacqui as Home Sec. Its important to know.

When did the political interference begin on Mc Cann case? After Brown took over on June 27th? Or whilst still under Blair? - I believe it was a little later... under Brown?
by [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on 09.06.14 13:48
Coincidentally John Reid is a former Chairman of Celtic Football Club. Gerry McCann was a team doctor at Celtic.

I don’t know how to use their quotes – but interesting to find this.

by dartinghero 17.05.17 19:49

This is an interesting thread that I had previously missed. I've had a bit of a look about but can't find any info about when GM was team Dr for celtic. Anyone else had any luck?

by speirssmells 18.05.17 12:21

dartinghero wrote:This is an interesting thread that I had previously missed. I've had a bit of a look about but can't find any info about when GM was team Dr for celtic. Anyone else had any luck?

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by speirssmells 18.05.17 12:23

dartinghero wrote:This is an interesting thread that I had previously missed. I've had a bit of a look about but can't find any info about when GM was team Dr for celtic. Anyone else had any luck?

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by speirssmells 18.05.17 12:33

speirssmells wrote:Celtic youth player Lawrence Haggart was murdered in 1996 by paedophile William Beattie.
Jim McCafferty Celtic kitman at the time and currently remanded in prison in Belfast on sex abuse charges was a suspect as he had phoned the youth on the day of his murder.

Gerry McCann was the club doctor at the time.

Lawrence Haggart died on 17th March 1996.
Paedo Brian(not William) Beattie was convicted of his murder.
Tommy Burns(again) was Celtic manager from 1994 until 1997.
Unclear as to exact dates GM(confusion is good") worked at Celtic.

by dartinghero 18.05.17 12:34

speirssmells wrote:
dartinghero wrote:This is an interesting thread that I had previously missed. I've had a bit of a look about but can't find any info about when GM was team Dr for celtic. Anyone else had any luck?
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Cheers speirssmells.
Article says they worked together in the "mid 90's" and says it finished when they moved to Leicester, so still light on specifics. Will keep looking.

by willowthewisp 18.05.17 12:43

dartinghero wrote:
speirssmells wrote:
dartinghero wrote:This is an interesting thread that I had previously missed. I've had a bit of a look about but can't find any info about when GM was team Dr for celtic. Anyone else had any luck?
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Cheers speirssmells.
Article says they worked together in the "mid 90's" and says it finished when they moved to Leicester, so still light on specifics. Will keep looking.

Hi dartinghero,spiersmells?
I think it is best if CMMOM"Fights for Justice,for Madeleine McCann"at the moment and leave anything to do with Football and any person who may or Not have anything to do with"Child Abuse to one side.
I am not saying,there is No Connection,but until certain "Authorities/Organisations"investigate any malpractices that may have occurred.

by dartinghero 18.05.17 12:59

willowthewisp wrote:
dartinghero wrote:
speirssmells wrote:
dartinghero wrote:This is an interesting thread that I had previously missed. I've had a bit of a look about but can't find any info about when GM was team Dr for celtic. Anyone else had any luck?
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Cheers speirssmells.
Article says they worked together in the "mid 90's" and says it finished when they moved to Leicester, so still light on specifics. Will keep looking.
Hi dartinghero,spiersmells?
I think it is best if CMMOM"Fights for Justice,for Madeleine McCann"at the moment and leave anything to do with Football and any person who may or Not have anything to do with"Child Abuse to one side.
I am not saying,there is No Connection,but until certain "Authorities/Organisations"investigate any malpractices that may have occurred.

I don't understand what you are saying Willo.
I am not enquiring about football, or footballers or the other staff. I am asking when GM was at the club as references are vague.

by lemonbutter 18.05.17 13:14

dartinghero wrote:
speirssmells wrote:
dartinghero wrote:This is an interesting thread that I had previously missed. I've had a bit of a look about but can't find any info about when GM was team Dr for celtic. Anyone else had any luck?
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Cheers speirssmells.
Article says they worked together in the "mid 90's" and says it finished when they moved to Leicester, so still light on specifics. Will keep looking.

Apart from the 14 months during the mid-90s when Gerry was in New Zealand ...

by willowthewisp 18.05.17 13:25

dartinghero wrote:
willowthewisp wrote:
dartinghero wrote:
speirssmells wrote:
dartinghero wrote:This is an interesting thread that I had previously missed. I've had a bit of a look about but can't find any info about when GM was team Dr for celtic. Anyone else had any luck?
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Cheers speirssmells.
Article says they worked together in the "mid 90's" and says it finished when they moved to Leicester, so still light on specifics. Will keep looking.
Hi dartinghero,spiersmells?
I think it is best if CMMOM"Fights for Justice,for Madeleine McCann"at the moment and leave anything to do with Football and any person who may or Not have anything to do with"Child Abuse to one side.
I am not saying,there is No Connection,but until certain "Authorities/Organisations"investigate any malpractices that may have occurred.
I don't understand what you are saying Willo.
I am not enquiring about football, or footballers or the other staff. I am asking when GM was at the club as references are vague.

What I am saying is there are certain elements who are watching CMMOM website and would not cease to have an"Opportunity"to have besmirched the good work done uncovering a huge injustice to Madeleine McCann,with child abuse accusations,knowingly or unknowingly?
You state Not enquiring about"Football"but you then state was One of the Parents at the Club,why?
What are you not trying to link?

by Foxy101 30.05.17 23:41

Many thanks for this information. I'm a Scot and yes this is a huge cover up - finally being outed to the masses!

by **Jill Havern** 18.07.17 11:27

Football Abuse: The Ugly Side of the Beautiful Game (looks like it's been whooshed already)
BBC Scotland Investigates, 2017
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Documentary examining the historical child sexual abuse scandal engulfing football. Reporter Mark Daly reveals fresh allegations of sex abuse and cover ups in Scottish football's most notorious paedophile scandal, at Celtic Boys' Club. He also hears powerful accounts from former footballers who talk for the first time about the abuse they say they suffered as boys in the sport.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] There's a couple photos of Madeleine McCann and Gerry and Philomena in this article.

by **sharonl** 20.07.17 20:17

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Football Abuse: The Ugly Side of the Beautiful Game (looks like it's been whooshed already)
BBC Scotland Investigates, 2017
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Whooshed? not quite [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]