So what's in the mix?

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I've just looked up what "ganga" means (urban dictionary) but I'd better not mention it here!

I don't know how the term "pants of ganga" originated but I hope that someone else will.

Woofer wrote:

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I've just looked up what "ganga" means (urban dictionary) but I'd better not mention it here!

I don't know how the term "pants of ganga" originated but I hope that someone else will.

I know Ganga is a fashion house, Indian I believe -

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No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I've just looked up what "ganga" means (urban dictionary) but I'd better not mention it here!

I don't know how the term "pants of ganga" originated but I hope that someone else will.

aquila wrote:snipped from my original post

the hiring of lawyers whose expertise lies in extradition
the hiring of professionals whose expertise lies in money laundering
the hiring of professionals whose expertise lies in media/reputation management
the hiring of lawyers whose expertise lies in libel
the hiring of what turned out to be 'dodgy' private investigation companies

Now imagine (and it's only imagination) that you have something to hide - whatever that something is. Imagine that you can hire lawyers to deal with all aspects of that and private investigators to supply you with information whilst it's all being done in the name of the parents of a missing child and you are benevolently helping them in their distress and you are helping to foot the bill.

Imagine that the people you may have recommended to the parents of a missing child are in fact law companies of whom you are already a high paying client.

Imagine that you can recommend how to set up a limited company instead of a fund and make things easier on the parents of a missing child. Imagine you can offer wonders beyond the belief of the parents of a missing child to show them how to 'fight back' and 'campaign' within days of their child's disappearance.

Imagine you can get some really good counselling for these parents, get them motivated, get them busy and in the media world.

Imagine you can get these parents really good roles as ambassadors or perhaps a place in politics.

Just imagine all that power. Then imagine how you can manipulate and withdraw your support at will.

Then REMEMBER a little three year old girl who is missing under this possible pile of deceit and lies.

chilli wrote:I think Candyfloss is right. It came from an early translating tool. The other rather unfortunate definition seems to be a coincidence.

aquila wrote:I'm not a new member but as this is in the debate section for theories and I didn't know where else to post without opening a new topic I thought this might be a good thread.

Apologies if it's a long post, I've cut it to the minimum.

So what's in the mix?

I struggled to find a relevant heading for my post.

So far there is:

A missing child
A cry of abduction
Scotland Yard now looking for a lone paedophile operating in the Algarve

The McCanns received unprecedented assistance within hours of Madeleine's disappearance.

No-one knows why but many professionals swooped into PDL almost within the blink of an eye.

The choice of some of professions in the disappearance of Madeleine being

the hiring of lawyers whose expertise lies in extradition
the hiring of professionals whose expertise lies in money laundering
the hiring of professionals whose expertise lies in media/reputation management
the hiring of lawyers whose expertise lies in libel
the hiring of what turned out to be 'dodgy' private investigation companies

I haven't covered them all so feel free to add to the list.

What is unclear is who exactly recommended these professionals?

It all comes down to what's in the mix.

The following is all hypothetical:

No-one knows what business dealings were going on in PDL. For instance, property and related businesses such as golf courses perhaps offer a haven to money laundering.

Paedophilia is a rich man's game too and just to make Textusa's day so is swinging although the latter is not illegal.

Now hypothetically only, what if a child were to go missing, the merde hits the air conditioning, the media are everywhere within hours and the PJ start looking at who's who and delving into things that people who have possibly played no part at all in the disappearance of this child would rather not have poked at.

So who recommended all these professionals whose area of expertise doesn't seem entirely at one with the immediate needs of a family who've just lost their child to 'an abductor'. Wouldn't it be a good thing for a person/persons to offer immediate assistance with areas of expertise that are wholly applicable to themselves instead of the family whilst displaying incredible benevolence to this 'poor family of a missing child'?

It is only my opinion and has no basis in fact but if there is a person/group of persons who wish to control things and hide in plain sight this is a nifty solution.

I'm not usually given to theories. It's probably the first time I've posted in this way so please be gentle. I've tried to keep my post as short as possible.n

For me this case all boils down to who's got what on who (or is that whom?) and that also includes the family of a missing child.

Just an observation.

HelenMeg wrote:Why has noone exposed the cover up or broken ranks?

HelenMeg wrote:If they denied their daughter a decent death it had to be because noone wanted her death exposed, for whatever reason. Was she abused? or would the revelation that she had died expose something else that was going on ?

Woofer wrote:@ Aquila - "What is unclear is who exactly recommended these professionals?"

Wasn`t it the Ocean Club?

@ Aquila - "For me this case all boils down to who's got what on who (or is that whom?) and that also includes the family of a missing child.   So right - surely it can only be that.

Imagine if it had been a less upwardly mobile couple with their family whose child had gone missing. Would they have got that list of influential people rushing to their side?

AndyB wrote:

HelenMeg wrote:Why has noone exposed the cover up or broken ranks?

Because the consequences of doing so are so severe that they dare not. This for me is one of the keys to the whole thing and one of the reasons that I don't believe the swinging theory. The consequences of it being discovered that they were all swinging just wouldn't be anywhere near severe enough for the cover-up to even start and its certainly not enough to involve the establishment. Besides, even if true, the fact that they were swinging is irrelevent to Madeleine's demise. At best its just another reason to explain neglect but as they're happy to admit that then I don't see how swinging could be relevant. "We left the kids alone while we went off having sex with each other" is hardly worse than "we left the kids alone while we went out for a meal and to get lashed".

HelenMeg wrote:If they denied their daughter a decent death it had to be because noone wanted her death exposed, for whatever reason. Was she abused? or would the revelation that she had died expose something else that was going on ?

I'm pretty much with you here but maybe her death on its own wouldn't have revealed a big secret. Perhaps the manner of her death would and that therefore an autopsy was to be avoided at all costs.

HelenMeg wrote:If someone dared to break ranks would the consequence to that individual be severe through what they were linked with, or what might be done to them? Just trying to imagine potential scenarios..

Also interested to know what you think may have brought these individuals to Ocean Club resort in May 2007? Or do you think they were just there for a relatively cheap holiday?  If not something such as swinging then what other ideas?  Do you think it is sex-related in some way?

AndyB wrote:

HelenMeg wrote:If someone dared to break ranks would the consequence to that individual be severe through what they were linked with, or what might be done to them? Just trying to imagine potential scenarios..

Also interested to know what you think may have brought these individuals to Ocean Club resort in May 2007? Or do you think they were just there for a relatively cheap holiday?  If not something such as swinging then what other ideas?  Do you think it is sex-related in some way?

Again, you're asking the key questions, the answers to which, I believe, will explain a lot of the things that are currently unknown to us. Unfortunately I'm like everyone else, I don't know the answers

Clay Regazzoni wrote:

AndyB wrote:

HelenMeg wrote:If someone dared to break ranks would the consequence to that individual be severe through what they were linked with, or what might be done to them? Just trying to imagine potential scenarios..

Also interested to know what you think may have brought these individuals to Ocean Club resort in May 2007? Or do you think they were just there for a relatively cheap holiday?  If not something such as swinging then what other ideas?  Do you think it is sex-related in some way?

Again, you're asking the key questions, the answers to which, I believe, will explain a lot of the things that are currently unknown to us. Unfortunately I'm like everyone else, I don't know the answers

Indeed, to properly answer the question you would need to know what kind of individuals usually holidayed in PdL. We know some of the high profile individuals who chose to make their (second) homes there or near there. I wonder how many people, even those with an interest in the case, even appreciate where Luz is, and what a trial it would have been to get there prior to the construction of modern road links etc. I've made no secret of my belief that the whole place was conceived and developed as a spot for a bit of out of sight, out of mind holiday fun. Could be completely wrong though.