The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann™
Hello!

A very warm welcome to The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann™ forum.

Please log in, or register to view all the forums, then settle in and help us get to the truth about what really happened to Madeleine Beth McCann. Please note that your username should be different from your email address!

When posting please be mindful that this forum is primarily about the death of a three year old girl.

(Please note: if you register with the sole intention of disrupting or spamming, please don't expect to be a member for too long.)

Many thanks,

Jill Havern
Forum owner

First conviction and sentence

View previous topic View next topic Go down

First conviction and sentence

Post by PeterMac on 01.02.13 16:15

Detective Chief Inspector who tried to sell hacking probe information to News of the World is jailed but judge reduces sentence because she is adopting a child
April Casburn sentenced to 15 months for misconduct in public office
Judge rejects argument she was blowing whistle on hacking investigation

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271798/Detective-Chief-Inspector-jailed-offering-sell-information-phone-hacking-investigation-News-World.html

That will mess up a few night's sleep in a few households tonight.
They'll need more than a QC or two to get them out of this.

____________________

avatar
PeterMac
Researcher

Posts : 10170
Reputation : 163
Join date : 2010-12-06

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by plebgate on 01.02.13 16:20

Reduced sentence because she is adopting child. Will she still be able to adopt when she comes out of prison. Not a very good example is she and yet social services have stopped people adopting before now if they are smokers. BARMEY.

plebgate

Posts : 6026
Reputation : 1712
Join date : 2013-02-01

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by bobbin on 01.02.13 16:41

@plebgate wrote:Reduced sentence because she is adopting child. Will she still be able to adopt when she comes out of prison. Not a very good example is she and yet social services have stopped people adopting before now if they are smokers. BARMEY.
Isn't Rebecca Brooks adopting a child also?
Is this new-fashioned rush for older women to adopt a child when whiff of prison sentence is in the air, a novel form of child abuse?

bobbin

Posts : 2047
Reputation : 137
Join date : 2011-12-05

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by Dr What on 01.02.13 16:42

I really cannot see how any adoption can continue.

It cannot be in the child's best interests to live in a household where criminal activity is acceptable.The prospective adoptive mother will have a criminal record.The Local Authority will be opening itself up for possible legal challenges by applicants who have previously been turned down for adoption on the basis of a criminal conviction.

Dr What

Posts : 245
Reputation : 24
Join date : 2012-10-26

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by plebgate on 01.02.13 16:45

Good point Bobbin - hadn't thought of that. Plus Charlie Brook might get a more lenient sentence if found guilty as he will also be adopting.

plebgate

Posts : 6026
Reputation : 1712
Join date : 2013-02-01

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by bobbin on 01.02.13 16:58

@plebgate wrote:Good point Bobbin - hadn't thought of that. Plus Charlie Brook might get a more lenient sentence if found guilty as he will also be adopting.
Another young dad to be... born 3rd March, 1963, makes him almost 50.
Have they run out of 'younger prospective parents' for young babies to have parents who will still be able to play basketball (without wheezing) on the beach when they are 18.

bobbin

Posts : 2047
Reputation : 137
Join date : 2011-12-05

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by Guest on 01.02.13 17:24

The Brooks have one baby born to a surrogate mother a year ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160999/Rebekah-Brooks-takes-baby-day-forgets-conspiracy-trial-watches-husband-Charlie-complete-donkey-derby#axzz2JfWxVmU6

I haven't heard of any plans to adopt another child.

Charlie shares my birthday and is only a year or two younger - I wish!
avatar
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by bobbin on 01.02.13 17:31

Jean wrote:The Brooks have one baby born to a surrogate mother a year ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160999/Rebekah-Brooks-takes-baby-day-forgets-conspiracy-trial-watches-husband-Charlie-complete-donkey-derby#axzz2JfWxVmU6

I haven't heard of any plans to adopt another child.

Charlie shares my birthday and is only a year or two younger - I wish!

ah, thanks for that Jean. Happy Birthday for the 3rd of March when it comes.

bobbin

Posts : 2047
Reputation : 137
Join date : 2011-12-05

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by monkey mind on 01.02.13 17:37

I’m sure this was a very well thought out adoption based entirely on altruism and the inner need to provide a good home for an unfortunate child. No doubt the first papers for the adoption were filed well before she fell under suspicion of her crimes.

That said, quite astonishing the amount of people that fall pregnant either individually or as a couple after being charged with an offence likely to carry a custodial sentence.

For the more discerning defendant who is perhaps more mature, reasonably wel heeled and does not wish to put themselves through the discomfort of giving birth, the adoption route can be, well, adopted.

So long as sentencing authorities continue to announce that they took such a thing into consideration when passing or suspending a custodial sentence then the shamefully selfish will continue to present the unborn, just born or unwanted as motivation for leniency.

Not sayin’, just sayin’.
avatar
monkey mind

Posts : 616
Reputation : 1
Join date : 2011-12-19

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by plebgate on 01.02.13 23:48

Hi Again Bobbin.
I did read very recently that Brooks is trying to adopt a child. IIRC footage was shown on tv where she said at a meeting she was asked to attend to answer questions from MPs that she said something along the lines that monies had been paid for info.
IIRC she was also questionned by police some years ago about an alleged physical assault she carried out on her then husband Ross Kemp although no charges were brought. Interestingly,I believe that on the same night Phil Mitchell's then girlfriend was also arrested having been accused of allegedly assaulting Phil Mitchel. Again, no charges brought. Sorry can't think of Phil Mitchells real name.

plebgate

Posts : 6026
Reputation : 1712
Join date : 2013-02-01

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by Angelique on 02.02.13 10:10

Maybe this works retrospectively as it were. The DCI I think has already adopted the child and the worry was that being away from said child would damage their relationship.

However it seems as though there is a double standard regarding adoption. If a couple who want to adopt are your average couple you seem to be investigated to the 8th Degree and any little anomally will mean refusal. However, well heeled couples, celebrities and like - no problem.

____________________
Things aren't always what they seem
avatar
Angelique

Posts : 1396
Reputation : 37
Join date : 2010-10-19

Back to top Go down

FIRST CONVICTION AND SENTENCE

Post by Mrs Beeton on 02.02.13 16:22

I wonder if we'll see any more high profile people going down the adoption route? ..................

Mrs Beeton

Posts : 32
Reputation : 0
Join date : 2013-01-25

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by sallypelt on 02.02.13 16:29

Didn't the Brooks have a baby via a surrogate mother, back in early 2012?

sallypelt

Posts : 3610
Reputation : 783
Join date : 2012-11-10

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by sallypelt on 02.02.13 16:33

"Relatively little is known about Rebekah Brooks's private life" BBC News 24 July 2012

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13117456

sallypelt

Posts : 3610
Reputation : 783
Join date : 2012-11-10

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by Guest on 02.02.13 18:03

Jean wrote:The Brooks have one baby born to a surrogate mother a year ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160999/Rebekah-Brooks-takes-baby-day-forgets-conspiracy-trial-watches-husband-Charlie-complete-donkey-derby#axzz2JfWxVmU6

I haven't heard of any plans to adopt another child.

Charlie shares my birthday and is only a year or two younger - I wish!

Yes Sallypelt, that's correct.
avatar
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by jd on 02.02.13 18:07

@Mrs Beeton wrote:I wonder if we'll see any more high profile people going down the adoption route? ..................

Adoption being the prerogative word laughat

____________________
Who pulled the strings?...THE SYMINGTONS..And the Scottish connections...Look no further if you dare
avatar
jd

Posts : 4152
Reputation : 21
Join date : 2011-07-22

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by plebgate on 02.02.13 18:37

Yes it seems that if you are rich or have the right connections adoption is made relatively easy and maybe lighter sentences passed if you have adopted or about to adopt a child.
How different for the "plebs" of this world. I can remember when a pregnant woman was handcuffed to her hospital bed under the Thatcher Tories (I think Ann Widdecombe) made the decision. No such compassion for that woman by the authorities. I wonder if judges will be so compassionate with pregnant women and women who already have children who appear before them. Equality in Britain imo does not exist. Money talks and for us plebs - well we are useful as cannon fodder and that's about it.

plebgate

Posts : 6026
Reputation : 1712
Join date : 2013-02-01

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by Inspectorfrost on 02.02.13 18:43

@plebgate wrote:Yes it seems that if you are rich or have the right connections adoption is made relatively easy and maybe lighter sentences passed if you have adopted or about to adopt a child.
How different for the "plebs" of this world. I can remember when a pregnant woman was handcuffed to her hospital bed under the Thatcher Tories (I think Ann Widdecombe) made the decision. No such compassion for that woman by the authorities. I wonder if judges will be so compassionate with pregnant women and women who already have children who appear before them. Equality in Britain imo does not exist. Money talks and for us plebs - well we are useful as cannon fodder and that's about it.

Ms Widdicombe argued they were not shackled during labour but only before and after, therefore she thought a mother about to go into labour and the moment after giving birth is going to try and abscond, stupid stupid pathetic woman!



Inspectorfrost

Posts : 841
Reputation : 2
Join date : 2012-12-09

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by plebgate on 02.02.13 18:52

A stupid woman indeed imo. Look no further than her appearance on Strictly Dancing, letting the nation laugh at her and yet she was able to make such a decision affecting that pregnant woman. Staggering arrogance I think.
Thanks for pm inspectorfrost.

plebgate

Posts : 6026
Reputation : 1712
Join date : 2013-02-01

Back to top Go down

Re: First conviction and sentence

Post by Inspectorfrost on 02.02.13 19:00

@plebgate wrote:A stupid woman indeed imo. Look no further than her appearance on Strictly Dancing, letting the nation laugh at her and yet she was able to make such a decision affecting that pregnant woman. Staggering arrogance I think.
Thanks for pm inspectorfrost.

Youre welcome and thanks. Whats the betting said woman was not in for murder or something serious like that.Ms W was always too harsh and had no empathy whatsoever.! Seeing as she says shes a strict christian doesnt exactly gel either. Sorry, getting off topic. And yes she was a total muppet on strictly.

Inspectorfrost

Posts : 841
Reputation : 2
Join date : 2012-12-09

Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum