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KILLER QUIZZED Child murderer Martin Ney to be questioned for second time over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance
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   23 Jan 2021, 20:30Updated: 23 Jan 2021, 20:31

A MULTIPLE child murderer is set to be questioned a second time over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

German Martin Ney, 49, was extradited to France on Friday to be quizzed over another killing.

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Martin Ney was grilled in 2007 as he fitted the description of a man seen near where Madeleine went missing

TV station RTL claimed Scotland Yard, after reviewing evidence, had suggested he be re-interviewed over Madeleine.

Ney was grilled in 2007 as he fitted the description of a man seen near the Praia da Luz apartment on Portugal’s Algarve from where Madeleine, then three, went missing in 2007.

She was on holiday with parents Kate and Gerry.

Ney, who denies involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance, is serving life for three murders.

He will be quizzed this week in Nantes over the 2004 murder of a boy of ten.

It comes after jailed paedophile Christian B, 44, was named in Germany last June as the prime suspect in Madeleine’s case.

He raped a woman, 72, in Praia da Luz in 2001.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13830511/madeleine-mccann-martin-ney-questioned-murderer/
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Verdi wrote:KILLER QUIZZED Child murderer Martin Ney to be questioned for second time over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance
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   23 Jan 2021, 20:30Updated: 23 Jan 2021, 20:31

A MULTIPLE child murderer is set to be questioned a second time over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

German Martin Ney, 49, was extradited to France on Friday to be quizzed over another killing.

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Martin Ney was grilled in 2007 as he fitted the description of a man seen near where Madeleine went missing

TV station RTL claimed Scotland Yard, after reviewing evidence, had suggested he be re-interviewed over Madeleine.

Ney was grilled in 2007 as he fitted the description of a man seen near the Praia da Luz apartment on Portugal’s Algarve from where Madeleine, then three, went missing in 2007.

She was on holiday with parents Kate and Gerry.

Ney, who denies involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance, is serving life for three murders.

He will be quizzed this week in Nantes over the 2004 murder of a boy of ten.

It comes after jailed paedophile Christian B, 44, was named in Germany last June as the prime suspect in Madeleine’s case.

He raped a woman, 72, in Praia da Luz in 2001.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13830511/madeleine-mccann-martin-ney-questioned-murderer/
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Oh Nick oh Nick oh Nick, I know it's Saturday night but you really should lay off the source, it's addling your brain - or at least someone/something is addling your brain.

A bit of friendly advice, take a break.  You're making a fool of yourself.

I hope you are being paid well for putting your neck on the block.
If Ney is a German why would one EXTRADITE him to France to interview him in France.  Why not simply go to Germany to grill him?

Too much yogurt and toilet paper there?

Thanks for the link.  I now need to research when Ney was convicted, and by whom. Plus if he was living on the Algarve in 2007.  Or if he knew Brueckner.

Lots there to keep me busy today.  But right now I need to go and dump our rubbish.

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Happy hunting  ....

Another known paedophile, ‘Martin N[ey],’ was arrested last month for the murder of Dennis Klein, a 9-year-old boy who vanished on a school trip in Germany in 2001, and is wanted in questioning with a number of other child disappearances.

https://www.thejournal.ie/madeleine-who-could-have-taken-her-134143-May2011/

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13561p975-media-mayhem-mccann-media-nonsense-of-the-day#431600

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Post by PeterMac 24.01.21 7:54

So they are absolutely sure it is Brückner, but are going to interview Ney, just in case ?

Just as it is inadvisable for an accused to put forward more than one defence, it is surely
even more ludicrous for the prosecution to put forward multiple accused.

What do they say to the jury ?

Here are some known perverts.   Pick one ?
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Post by Silentscope 24.01.21 11:11

A former resort employee had reported to the police after she recognized another man on recordings in a Netflix documentary about Madeleine,who she said was also traveling with Ney. The Portuguese police then questioned this other man, whose name is not publicly known, but who is considered to be a new suspect in the case. 


The Portuguese police made it clear that Ney was not the new suspect. 


Ney was transferred to France because the French want to interview him about  the Jonathan Coulom case. Nothing to do with Maddie at all.


He recently gave up his encryption passwords for his computer, but nothing was found of use to the investigation.


Further information on Ney:


https://scienceblogs.de/klausis-krypto-kolumne/2017/05/09/masked-man-reveals-his-passwords-after-five-years/
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Post by AnneBarnard 24.01.21 12:48

Verdi wrote:KILLER QUIZZED Child murderer Martin Ney to be questioned for second time over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance
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   23 Jan 2021, 20:30Updated: 23 Jan 2021, 20:31

A MULTIPLE child murderer is set to be questioned a second time over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

German Martin Ney, 49, was extradited to France on Friday to be quizzed over another killing.

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Martin Ney was grilled in 2007 as he fitted the description of a man seen near where Madeleine went missing

TV station RTL claimed Scotland Yard, after reviewing evidence, had suggested he be re-interviewed over Madeleine.

Ney was grilled in 2007 as he fitted the description of a man seen near the Praia da Luz apartment on Portugal’s Algarve from where Madeleine, then three, went missing in 2007.

She was on holiday with parents Kate and Gerry.

Ney, who denies involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance, is serving life for three murders.

He will be quizzed this week in Nantes over the 2004 murder of a boy of ten.

It comes after jailed paedophile Christian B, 44, was named in Germany last June as the prime suspect in Madeleine’s case.

He raped a woman, 72, in Praia da Luz in 2001.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13830511/madeleine-mccann-martin-ney-questioned-murderer/
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A bit of friendly advice, take a break.  You're making a fool of yourself.

I hope you are being paid well for putting your neck on the block.

Well, I guess from that article we know which way Nick Pisa leans in all of this. gm

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AnneBarnard wrote:Well, I guess from that article we know which way Nick Pisa leans in all of this reading .

Drole big grin high5 !

The reincarnated suspect could create problems in a court of law. The jury when yay'ing and ney'ing might give out the wrong signals.

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Post by Silentscope 24.01.21 13:19

Ney is just another attempt by the British Press to lead readers away from the ‘usual Suspects’. 
Pisa like the leaning Tower, seems to be supported by an underground construction without which, he would not be able to stand.

On the French perspective:

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Post by Guest 25.01.21 0:53

And now we have the Waily Snail on the case.  It was only a matter of time..

German child killer Martin Ney, 49, 'is set to be questioned for a second time over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance'

   Martin Ney, 49, to be questioned over Madeleine McCann's disappearance again
   Serving life sentence for the murder of three boys after between eight and 13
   TV station RTL claims Scotland Yard suggested interviewing child killer again
   Ney denies he had any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance

German child killer Martin Ney is set to be questioned for a second time over Madeleine McCann's disappearance.

The 49-year-old man, who was jailed for life in 2012 for abducting and murdering three young children and abusing many more, has been extradited from France to be pulled in for questioning again.

After reviewing the evidence into Madeleine's disappearance, Scotland Yard suggested interviewing him again, TV station RTL claimed.  

According to The Sun, the convicted triple murderer was interviewed back in 2007 after a man was seen near the apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where the three-year-old girl went missing. Ney was said to fit the description.

The German sex fiend is currently serving a life sentence for the murder of three boys.

The killer, known as the 'masked man', was reportedly known to haunt the Algarve and travelled throughout Portugal in the 1990s.

He revealed in chatroom messages, under the username GerdX, he had dressed in camouflage to jump out of bushes, 'in children's playgrounds if a beautiful boy goes past,' The Sun reported.

He also wore masks, balaclavas and replied 'yes' when one girl awoke from a nap and asked if he was her daddy.

Ney was jailed for killing Stefan Jahr, 13, in 1992, Dennis Rostel, eight, in 1995, and Dennis Klein, nine, in 2001.

His known victims are all boys, but experts claim gender is often unimportant for paedophiles.

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It was reported in 2018 that Ney confessed a fourth killing to a cellmate, that of 10-year-old French school boy Jonathan Coulom, who was kidnapped and killed from a holiday camp in Saint-Brevin-les-Pins in 2004. This has not resulted in a charge.

He was also investigated over the disappearance of German boy Renee Hasse in Aljezur, Portugal, in 1996, but never charged.

He is known to have finished his teacher training aged 21 before travelling to Ecuador in 1993, Peru in 1995 and Portugal a year later. He was jailed in 2012 after a wide scale police operation.

Ney denies he had any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.

While in Nantes he is set to be asked about the murder of a ten-year-old boy in 2004.

Scotland Yard last month confirmed it has no plans to end its missing person investigation into Madeleine's disappearance, despite the belief of German prosecutors that she was murdered.

In June last year German national Christian Brueckner, 44, was identified as a suspect in the Madeleine investigation.

Earlier this month German police investigating the disappearance were reportedly set to interview witnesses who knew suspect Christian Brueckner.

It is hoped that interviews with a number of people in the Algarve who knew main suspect Brueckner, 43, could help snare the paedophile, the Mirror reports.

Experts see the new interviews as a step forward in the investigation and are hopeful they will lead to Brueckner himself being questioned and possibly charged.  

Brueckner was told last November that he will remain behind bars until 2026, after losing a bid to overturn a rape conviction.

He was last year found guilty of the 2005 rape of a 72-year-old American woman in the same Portuguese resort and sentenced to seven years in a Hanover jail, at a court in Brunswick, Lower Saxony.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9181793/Child-killer-Martin-Ney-questioned-second-time-Madeleine-McCanns-disappearance.html
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Post by Guest 25.01.21 1:05

Since 'he who can't be named' was named, you know Christian Brueckner, I've said all I along I believe the root of this story to be the Netflix Madeleine McCann documentary.

Now Ney has been reincarnated.

The Netflix production, the story according to the gospel of Saint Gerry and Saint Kate McCann, the production they so stealthily declined to endorse although it was to their advantage to get their version of the truth out there - again!

Belief in their version of the truth was starting to wane, they needed an awakening to keep their story alive and kicking and believed - enter Netflix!

The Netflix mockumentary heavily promoted the sex predator 'maskman', he who apparently can be named.

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Post by PeterMac 25.01.21 9:21

He was also investigated over the disappearance of German boy Renee Hasse in Aljezur, Portugal, in 1996, but never charged.

Why would anyone be charged ?
 Renee Hasse was walking along a beach between two rocky headlands, which faces west.  The wind had been a steady westerly for several days, and given the fetch of several thousand miles, the waves had built up.   As anyone who knows anything about the sea, waves, and beaches knows, every so often two or more waves combine and a much larger one is formed.   There are hundreds of videos on You Tube showing this, and everyone who has been on a beach holiday knows how people get caught out.
 He was very clearly washed out to sea.
There was ONE set of footprints, which suddenly stopped.
There is also a river at the southern end of that beach, and a clear rip about half way along.

Strangely the PJ sardine-munchers came to the same conclusions, because they looked at the available evidence.

I looked at this some time ago, with the help of Natasha D, who lives very close to that particular beach and gave me a lot of details.
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Post by Silentscope 06.02.21 16:06

@PeterMac

The following Video shows a picture of Renee H waving from an inflatable boat on the day of his disappearance at  01:36 

If the footprints stopped where he entered the boat, and he was blown out to sea, he could have possibly capsized and drowned. The empty boat would have been soon blown out to sea without trace?

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Post by ShiningInLuz 06.02.21 17:06

PeterMac wrote:He was also investigated over the disappearance of German boy Renee Hasse in Aljezur, Portugal, in 1996, but never charged.

Why would anyone be charged ?
 Renee Hasse was walking along a beach between two rocky headlands, which faces west.  The wind had been a steady westerly for several days, and given the fetch of several thousand miles, the waves had built up.   As anyone who knows anything about the sea, waves, and beaches knows, every so often two or more waves combine and a much larger one is formed.   There are hundreds of videos on You Tube showing this, and everyone who has been on a beach holiday knows how people get caught out.
 He was very clearly washed out to sea.
There was ONE set of footprints, which suddenly stopped.
There is also a river at the southern end of that beach, and a clear rip about half way along.

Strangely the PJ sardine-munchers came to the same conclusions, because they looked at the available evidence.

I looked at this some time ago, with the help of Natasha D, who lives very close to that particular beach and gave me a lot of details.
Small point.  Do you mean a westerly wind i.e. one coming from the west?

That would blow everything onshore.
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Post by crusader 06.02.21 18:43

Which police force questioned Ney in 2007 and has it been proven that he was in Portugal at the time?


Was the funny smelling masked man who was getting into bed with little girls in the weeks before the McCann's arrival, proven to be Ney?

From the reports I have read about Ney, his preference has always been for boys.
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Post by Silentscope 06.02.21 21:53

The only reason that the Case is being re - examined at all is because when the biological father heard about Christian B being a suspect in the Maddie case, he went to the Polizei and asked them to check.

He was only notified 2 days after Renee’s disappearance by relatives. Renee was on Holiday with the Biological Mother, his sister, and the Mother’s new Boyfriend at the time.

Ney as far as I know was only in Germany in 1996. 
He has no confirmed connections as yet to Christian B.

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Post by PeterMac 07.02.21 9:20

ShiningInLuz wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Small point.  Do you mean a westerly wind i.e. one coming from the west?
That would blow everything onshore.
Yes. W westerly wind is from the west
BUT
High tide was at 6:16pm, at 3.55m
Low tide at 11:49pm at 1.04m
1996-06-19 Wed 6:16 PM WEST 3.55 meters High Tide

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Post by Silentscope 07.02.21 10:16

Here is a Drone flyby over the Amoreira beach, possibly taken at low tide. It reveals a sandbank forming a lagoon. The Rip areas are possibly at either end of the sandbank lagoon area?

https://youtu.be/HmsVaQtCUx0

I would be interested to know if Renee’s boat was still onshore when he was reported missing.
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Many thanks for that link.
He wasn't in a boat. He was walking along the beach, and the ONE set of footprints came to a sudden stop
where obviously the waves had wiped them away.
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Post by Silentscope 07.02.21 12:34

From my own research it appears that Renee was allowed to leave the Restaurant alone, and the Mother and new Boyfriend and the Sister were on the Veranda. The view to the beach is good from there.

The sister left the Restaurant to go down the steps to the Beach where Renee was last seen. On arrival at the end of the steps at the Beach, Renee had vanished. Only his clothing and footprints were found.

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Taken from the South end of the beach.
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Post by PeterMac 08.02.21 16:21

Exactly.  Surfing UP the river on an incoming tide which creates a bore and according to Natasha takes them right up in to a small lake. Then when the tide turns the river reverses and they all go whooshing back down.
Huge fun but NOT a place for beginners or poor swimmers.
Or children
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Post by Silentscope 08.02.21 17:14

I can see why the PJ with maybe local knowledge came to a quick conclusion. Poor child. At least he was most likely taken by the Sea, and not by anyone else.
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Post by Guest 09.02.21 1:41

Sail with the wind and swim with the tide .... eh?
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Post by Cammerigal 09.02.21 7:04

Deaths due to rip currents are unfortunately a regular occurrence here in Australia. 21 deaths a year.
Predominantly male swimmers in the afternoons. 
https://issuu.com/surflifesavingaustralia/docs/csb_rip_currents_report_2020
Less prevalent in the safer waters of the UK. A beach disappearance (eg death) due to a rip would not be questioned in our Australian ocean waters.
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Post by Silentscope 09.02.21 11:23

No chance of the Sun and Daily Mail printing anything to the benefit of “the prime Patsy’ Christian B then?

I hope Herr Fulscher has been reading this.

It may come in handy later.
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Maddie link to German child killer

THIS is the man who has confessed to one child murder and is now facing questioning over the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

By James Murray
PUBLISHED: 00:00, Sun, May 8, 2011

The 40-year-old German youth worker, who we can name only as Martin N, is being questioned over at least three child murders and 40 suspected attacks on children across Europe.

He bears a striking resemblance to the photofit of a man seen holding a child in his arms just minutes after Madeleine was snatched from Praia da Luz.

He targeted children on holiday, entering their tents, apartments or villas, armed with a knife or gun and wearing a black balaclava and clothing. He also threatened to kidnap a child unless the parents paid a ransom.

Private detectives working for Kate and Gerry McCann will now try to discover if he was in Portugal when Madeleine vanished from the family’s apartment at the Algarve resort on May 3, 2007.

McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “Our private investigators became aware of this man a month ago and they will be liaising with the German investigators. The investigation is at an early stage.”

German detectives will shortly question the child killer over the disappearance of six-year-old blond German boy Renee Hasse, snatched from the beautiful Amoreira beach near Aljezur on the Algarve in June 1996. The beach is some half an hour’s drive from Luz.

They believe Martin N was in Portugal that summer and are checking his passport and bank accounts to build up a complete picture of his movements over the past 20 years across Europe and South America.

They are trying to establish if the Hamburg-based youth worker, who is said to have used his good communication skills with children to lure his victims, was acting alone or was part of a ring of paedophiles.

He was arrested last month after a major police operation. In Germany he can be referred to only as Martin N because of its laws on naming suspects.

Officers say he has confessed to the murder of nine-year-old Dennis Klein, who vanished during a school field trip at the Lower Saxony coastal town of Cuxhaven on September 5, 2001.

Mushroom pickers discovered the child’s body about 15 miles away two weeks later but the killer’s trail had long gone cold. Earlier this year, a witness who saw a television programme about the case recalled seeing an estate car parked on a forest path at about 4.30am in early September 2001.

A boy who resembled Dennis was in the back seat and a man in the front. The brawny, bespectacled man, who looked to be in his early 30s, matched a description police had received of the suspect from sex abuse victims. He was dressed in black.

In 1992, police said that Martin N had kidnapped and killed 13-year-old Stefan Jahr.

A month earlier he had entered a youth hostel in Bremen, pointed a knife at a boy and ordered him to follow him.

The boy’s scream alerted a teacher who frightened the attacker off.

French police are believed to be about to question Martin about the fate of Jonathan Coulom, 11, who disappeared from a school hostel in St Brevin in the west of France. His body was found six weeks later, handcuffed and in his pyjamas in a pond 30 yards from the hostel.

This could be just the tip of the iceberg. Detectives in Holland want to speak to him about the murder of Nicky Verstappen in August 1998.

The boy disappeared from a tent in Brunssum and his body was found in a plantation of fir trees the next day.

Although so far he is suspected of killing or attacking young boys, clinical psychologist Ron Bracey stressed that gender is not so important to paedophiles, making it quite possible that he could target a girl like Madeleine.

He said: “With paedophiles the gender of the child isn’t really that relevant. It’s quite possible he could have killed girls and boys.”

The thought that Madeleine may have been abducted by a paedophile, and is possibly still being abused, is Kate McCann’s worst fear, according to a newspaper interview yesterday. She was speaking in advance of her book, simply called Madeleine, which is published on Thursday.

Meanwhile a profile of Martin N began to emerge yesterday. German police interviewed him in 2004 after two boys complained they had been sexually attacked.

He was given a small fine but appeared before the courts again in 2006 when a man said Martin N had demanded 20,000 euros or he would tell police the man had child pornography on his computer. Two years later Martin N was asked to supply a DNA sample for police but failed to keep the appointment.

It is believed that between 2000 and 2008 he worked for an evangelical church on a project for the homeless.

His mother is distraught about the police investigation and does not accept the boy she raised has grown into a monster. She describes him as “normal, a little timid and very attentive”.

She insists he never showed signs similar to “the cruelty necessary to commit these horrible crimes”, although a German magazine claims he was scarred by his father leaving the family when he was young.

At 21, the suspect finished a teacher training course and started to travel. Police know he visited Ecuador in 1993, Peru in 1995 and Portugal the following year. He has also made repeated trips to Holland and Denmark.

Police psychologist Alexander Horn said: “During his studies to be a school teacher he was a solid student, although not over-brilliant. No professor observed any behaviour that brought special attention, no evidence from work colleagues that recalled him as a violent person. In fact, quite the reverse.

“Everyone who has been his neighbour or has worked with him describes him as reliable, amiable, friendly and very intelligent. He was always disposed to help with a smile on his lips.”

There are suggestions, however, that in 1987 he sent letters threatening extortion to neighbouring families. One is alleged to have warned: “If you don’t follow our instructions, your children will die.”

His penalty involved doing social work for eight weeks. Five years later he went on to kill his first ­victim.

German police spokesman Anke Rieken said: “Every place that he has been, every person with whom he has been in contact could lead us to more victims.”

Last week the church in Praia da Luz was filled with supporters and wellwishers on the fourth anniversary of

Madeleine’s disappearance. Although the McCanns were not present, a message from Kate was read out while prayers and readings were given in English and Portuguese.

Father Haynes Hubbard, of St Vincent’s Church of the Algarve, said: “There were far more people at the service than we expected, exceeding all our expectations.

“This was not a memorial service, instead we were challenging those who attended to continue in their search for Madeleine.”

Susan Hubbard, his wife, who is a friend of Kate’s, said: “Father Haynes was unfortunately ill at home in bed so he could not lead the service but it was not something that was really led anyway.

“We had readings in both English and Portuguese and I read out a message that Kate McCann had sent over for us.

There were more people than ever in the church for the vigil. It looked to be full, with a mixture of Portuguese and foreign residents and visitors who all wanted to come and say a prayer.

“We prayed for the safe return of Madeleine but also for the return of other missing children including Rui Pedro and others. Although we may not know all of their names, we pray for their safe return too.

“We believe that Praia da Luz has been given a mission to be the place that represents all missing children and we will continue to pray for them all.”

After the half-hour service candles were lit outside the church as a symbol of hope and light in the search for Madeleine.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/245336/Maddie-link-to-German-child-killer

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Post by Guest 05.03.21 15:15

As I've said before, it's astonishing the McCanns string of well paid private detectives didn't unearth any detail about all these named suspects - and unnamed.

Oh but of course they did didn't they. They ploughed, they sowed, they germanated, they nurtured, they manured, they reaped what they'd sown.

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