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Post by Verdi on 02.09.20 1:11

The tell tale stories of Tannerman and Smithman already have their own space here on the McCanns retrofitting.  Having today seen past commentary that's stuck in the groove, about Gerry McCann being the stranger witnessed by the Smith family on the night of 3rd May 2007, I'm introducing another angle .... The McCannman - for that is what it appears to be.  Please forgive any repetition, I feel this is a subject to keep uppermost in the minds of the more discerning observer.

In addition to the man and child seen by Jane Tanner at about 9.15pm on the evening Madeleine was taken, and the similar sighting forty-five minutes later by the family from Ireland, there were six reports from four independent witnesses of a ‘suspicious’ male noticed around the Ocean Club. He was described either as watching our apartment or generally acting oddly, or both. Details of all eight sightings are given at the end of this book (corresponding artists’ sketches can be found in the illustrations).

The police did not appear to feel that Jane’s sighting in Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva and the man and child reported by the Irish holidaymakers in Rua da Escola Primária were related. They seem to have concluded that these were in all likelihood two different men carrying two different children (if, they implied, these two men actually existed at all). The only reason for their scepticism appeared to be an unexplained time lapse between the two sightings. They didn’t dovetail perfectly. To me the similarities seem far more significant than any discrepancy in timing.

Every time I read these independent statements in the files (and neither could have been influenced by the other, remember – Jane’s description had not been released to the public before the Irish witnesses made their statements), I am staggered by how alike they are, almost identical in parts. As a lawyer once said to me, apropos another matter, ‘One coincidence, two coincidences – maybe they’re still coincidences. Any more than that and it stops being coincidence.’

Who knows why there was a forty-five-minute gap between the two sightings, or where this man might have been in between? I long ago stopped trying to come up with answers because I don’t think I need to. If the child was Madeleine – and in four years, no father has ever come forward to say it was him and his daughter – why would we assume he would be behaving normally or logically? There is nothing normal about stealing a little girl from her bed, so why should his subsequent actions be predictable? The abductor would hardly have been expecting to see Jane walking towards him as he escaped, let alone have anticipated that Gerry would be standing talking round the corner. Whatever plan was in his mind, he might well have been forced by these near misses to change it pretty quickly.

madeleine by KATE MCCANN

That book extract tells me the McCanns were more than interested in the Smith sighting.

The holiday friend of the Gerry and Kate McCann, Jane Tanner, played a very important part in the theatrics of the McCann version of events - she witnessed a stranger carrying a child close to the Ocean Club apartment block occupied by the group of friends.  Shortly after when reflecting on the incident she managed to convince herself, the McCanns and Portuguese police that the stranger was quite possibly in the process of abducting little Madeleine McCann when sighted by her nocturnal eye - so say she.  The ensuing hours and days saw  the sighting  evolve like a caterpillar shedding it's metamorphic skin, the catalyst of change to become a free flying butterfly.

Left as stand alone evidence, the sighting might have become an empty file, a figment of the imagination,  without corroborative evidence to add credence to the alleged sighting.  Apart from the development of description of the stranger over a period of time when pressurised, the Jane Tanner sighting needed more clout to make it stick.  It was not long before another sighting came to light, not as soon as one might expect considering a lost child's life is at stake but a bit later when it became apparent that Jane Tanner's sighting was a little tenuous to say the least.

Then, seemingly out of the blue, comes the Smith family with tales of a sighting within the same time span as that of Ms Tanner - coincidentally one might say, or perhaps contrived in the eye of the more observant.

On the surface it would appear that the Smith sighting was a thorn in the McCanns side but .... it wasn't.  The McCanns welcomed this newish sighting that so closely linked with their friend's evolving description.  They cunningly promoted the Smith sighting without seeming to unreservedly accept it.  The e-fits of the Smith family sighting featured in the Crimewatch 2013 Madeleine McCann Special, also feature on the official 'Find Madeleine' website - the McCann domain.

Who can deny with any degree of confidence that the Smith family sighting wasn't part of the strategy - the wider agenda?  

A coincidence too far I think.

The CMOMM/MMRG  research group has looked into this phenomena in great detail, leaving no stone unturned so to speak.  The finer detail of this research might be questioned but the overall study merits attention in it's own right.  If nothing else it casts doubt on the Smith family sighting and the striking similarity between that and the Tanner version of events.

Thanks again to Tony Bennett and all else  who  contributed towards this exposure of possible subterfuge.

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Post by Verdi on 02.09.20 1:18

By Mr Tony Bennett - September 2018

The Theory that Smithman = Gerry McCann – CAREFULLY EXPLAINED

SUMMARY OF THE SMITHMAN THEORY:

1 Madeleine died after 6pm on 3 May
2 Gerry McCann began to carry his dead daughter’s body through the streets of Praia da Luz at about the very same moment that his wife was raising the alarm about Madeleine’s disappearance
3 A few minutes later, nine members of the Smith family saw him heading towards the beach
4 In January 2008 Gerry was happy, via Brian Kennedy and Henri Exton, to approach the Smiths for help. He asked the Smiths to draw up efits, knowing full well that the Smiths had seen him carrying Madeleine’s dead body to the beach on 3 May
5 According to a MetPolice reply to an FOIAct question, Exton drew up two efits, based on the Smiths’ recollections, in September 2008
6 Gerry and the McCann Team then milked this sighting of him, using it on a C4 documentary (2009), on their website (from 2009) and in Kate’s book (2011)
7 Gerry then co-operated with Operation Grange and the BBC to produce a programme seen by 7 million people which included two efits of him
8 Dozens of people who have followed the McCann case for years sincerely believe this to be the truth.

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It is known that I oppose this theory. I began to oppose it publicly for the first time on 27 October 2013 on the CMOMM forum, just 13 days after the BBC Crimewatch McCann Special, transmitted on 14 October 2013 and watched by an estimated 7 million.

All I want to do here is set out the key facts relied on by those who still maintain that Smithman = Gerry McCann.

I will do so with a timeline.

This is their theory:

They believe, in harmony with Goncalo Amaral and his PJ Team, that Madeleine was alive and present at a ‘high tea’ in the Tapas bar between about 5pm and 6pm on Thursday 3 May.

They believe, again in harmony with Goncalo Amaral and his PJ Team, that Madeleine died sometime after 6pm that evening. Without sufficient evidence to say otherwise, the Team declared that she died as a result of an ‘accident’.

They say that, in terms, the following happened during the ensuing four hours:

1 The McCanns decided to cover up the death

2 Probably together with most or all of their Tapas7 friends, they all decided to hush up this death. They planned a hoax abduction which would be triggered by one of them raising the alarm at between 9.30pm and 10pm that night

3 They planned that Gerry McCann would walk through the streets of Praia da Luz from about 9.50pm to 10.10pm carrying Madeleine’s dead body, clad only in white/pink pyjamas (presumably hoping that no-one would see him)

4 Having laid these plans, they all sat down together between 8.30pm and 8.45pm for a hearty dinner and plenty of wine, during which some of them checked on their children. The McCanns’ account of events is that Madeleine and the two children were asleep in their apartment, G5A

Some minutes before 10.00pm, the alarm was raised and people began looking for Madeleine.

At almost exactly the same time, Gerry McCann picked up Madeleine’s body and carried it through the streets of Praia da Luz.

The believers in this theory say that nine members of the Smith family saw Gerry McCann walking in the direction of the beach carrying Madeleine. By then, he would have been around 8-9 minutes’ walk from his holiday apartment. He obviously knew he had been seen.

The believers in this theory do not explain in detail what may have happened next. But the following may be presumed from their theory:

1 Gerry McCann proceeded further, carrying Madeleine somewhere

2 He presumably found a hiding-place for Madeleine where nobody could find it (it must have been very good as a massive search which began hours later never found it)

3 Having hid the body he must have swiftly returned to the Ocean Club and its environs, where there appears to be adequate confirmation that he was present from about 10.30pm onwards.

As we now know, within 24 hours the disappearance of Madeleine McCann became an international media sensation.

On 16 May, the day after Robert Murat was arrested, the Smith family in Ireland suddenly remembered that they had seen a man carrying a child at about 10pm on the evening of 3 May. They ’phoned the Irish Police.

On 26 May, three of them made statements to the Portuguese Police: Martin Smith, his son Peter and his daughter Aoife. They described a man in near-identical terms to a man said to have been seen by Jane Tanner (‘Tannerman’) and to a holidaymaker, Wojchiech Krokowski, who had allegedly tried to kidnap a child at Sagres on Sunday 29 April or Monday 30 April.

On 20 September, Martin Smith told the Irish Police that he believed that the man he’d seen on 3 May was Gerry McCann. The basis for this was ‘the way he was carrying Sean, the way he walked and the way he turned his head down’. He was however only ‘60%-80% sure’ about this.

On 13 November at Salsalito, the family home of Ralph & Sally Eveleigh, two representatives of the McCanns, multi-millionaire Brian Kennedy, the head of the McCanns’ private investigation team, and Edward Smethurst, lawyer and senior Freemason, met with the entire Murat family and their lawyer, Francisco Pagarete.

By early January 2008, a series of media announcements explained that Martin Smith had agreed to talk to Metodo 3, the Spanish detectives who had been hired by Brian Kennedy on behalf of the McCanns.

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[COMMENT: The believers in the Smithman = Gerry McCann theory have never explained why, given (their theory says) that Gerry McCann knew he had been seen by the Smiths at 10pm on Thursday 3 May, he would want to talk to the Smiths.

If Martin Smith really believed by then (January 2008) that it was Gerry McCann he had seen, we must ask: “Why did he not tell Brian Kennedy: ‘The man I saw carrying a young child that night was Gerry McCann’?”]

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At the end of July 2008, the majority of the PJ files were released, and Goncalo Amaral’s book: ‘The Truth of the Lie’ was published. By then, if not well before, the McCanns and their Team must have been aware that Martin Smith had positively identified him Gerry McCann (60% to 80%) as having carried his daughter Madeleine round the streets of Praia da Luz at around 10pm on 3 May.

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[COMMENT: It remains a mystery why Martin Smith ever agreed to work with the McCann Team in the first place, given he believed he was sure that he had seen Gerry McCann that night. It remains another mystery why he continued to do so after this point].

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Nevertheless, the McCann Team, according to a variety of sources including answers to Freedom of Information Act questions, did continue to seek the Smiths’ help. The Smiths co-operated with one of the McCanns’ investigators, Henri Exton, the former Head of Covert Intelligence at MI5, and (according to the BBC and Operation Grange) produced two efits of different-looking men whom (we are told) they believed were accurate sketches of the man they said they had seen on the evening of 3 May 2007.

They did this, according to an FOIAct request, in September 2008.

This was despite the Smiths only having seen the man for a few seconds, in the dark and with weak street lighting, and the fact that the three of them who made statements (Martin, Peter and Aoife) told the Portuguese Police that they would never be able to recognise the man again.

Despite the fact that they had not seen the man for over 16 months in those conditions, they produced surprisingly detailed efits. Curiously there were many differences between the two efits, the shape of the head, the length of the nose, the shape of the chin and hairstyle, among others.

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[COMMENT: Once again, if Gerry McCann knew he’d been seen by the Smiths carrying Madeleine, who on earth were he and his Team even doing these efits?

The same question must be asked of the Smiths. If Martin Smith was sure that Gerry McCann was the man he’d seen, why was he bothering to do these efits at all when he believed he had seen Gerry McCann carrying Madeleine?]

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During late 2008 and early 2009 the McCanns were preparing for a Channel 4/Mentorn Media documentary which would reproduce their version of events about Madeleine’s disappearance.

It was transmitted in May 2009. Twice during the programme there were segments strongly suggesting that the abductor was the man seen by the Smiths. The efits, however, were withheld from the programme. The McCanns have since said that they gave the efits to the police, who did not advise their release.

According to the believers in the Smithman = Gerry theory, Martin Smith made no comment about this programme despite (they say) still fully believing that the man he had seen was Gerry McCann. (Or if he did, the media never published it).

Either Martin Smith knew in advance that his sighting was going to be used in the documentary, or he didn’t. Either way, he made no protest.

Likewise, around the time the programme was being transmitted, the McCanns uploaded a 30-second summary of his sighting to their website, recorded in an Irish voice (not that of Martin Smith).

Again, Martin Smith made no protest.

Again it must be asked why the McCanns featured the Smithman sighting at all if he knew he had been seen by the Smiths?

The website upload of the Smithman sighting described the man’s age as ’34-35’. This was curious, to say the least. In his first statement, he had said the man was ‘about 35-40’. In his second statement, he said ’40’. Now the age had come down to ’34-35’. Why?

Again it seems that Martin Smith made no protest about this second change to his estimate of the man’s age.

The Smith sighting was again mentioned in Kate McCann’s book, ‘madeleine’, published May 2011. The sighting was referenced on seven pages, with three of them devoted to an analysis by Kate McCann of the ‘striking similarities’ between Jane Tanner’s Tannerman and Martin Smith’s Smithman.

Once again, there was no protest from Martin Smith, despite the fact that he presumably still believed that he had seen Gerry McCann carrying Madeleine on the night of Thursday 3 May.

We know that Martin Smith was interviewed twice by DCI Andy Redwood, or one of his colleagues from Operation Grange, once in 2012 and once in 2013. It may safely be assumed that these conversations were about the forth coming BBC Crimewatch McCann Special programme.


Irish couple to help new Maddie probe
Missing Maddie
Niall O'Connor
19 March 2012

AN Irish family holidaying in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz on the night Madeleine McCann went missing say they will "fully cooperate" with any new police probe.

Louth couple Martin and Mary Smith were quizzed by investigators after they claimed to have seen a man carrying a young child through the town on the night of the May 3, 2007.

Madeleine was almost four years old when she vanished from her bed in her parents' apartment at the Ocean Club holiday resort in Praia da Luz between 9.35pm and 10pm on May 3, 2007.

Despite a massive police investigation and huge publicity worldwide, she has not been found. However it has now emerged that a group of Portuguese detectives have been appointed to carry out a fresh review of the investigation.

Now, the Irish couple who were interviewed by police following the girl's disappearance are bracing themselves to be reinterviewed.

Reports in British newspapers have claimed Scotland Yard officers will approach the Smith family in the coming weeks as they attempt to construct a photofit on the prime suspect.

Tragedy

Mary Smith told the Herald today that the family still sees Madeleine story as a "terrible tragedy" and that they will co-operate fully with investigators.

"At this point we just don't know whether we will be called but of course we will cooperate fully. Madeleine's disappearance was just a terrible tragedy," she added.
"We have not been contacted by police yet and we will wait for their instructions," she added.

Police reports state that Mary and Martin left Kelly's Bar in the resort at approximately 10pm when they passed a male they said was carrying a young girl who was barefoot.

http://newsoutlines.blogspot.com/2012/03/irish-couple-to-help-new-maddie-probe.html

The BBC Crimewatch McCann Special was transmitted on 14 October 2013. The main feature, or ‘the centre of our focus’ according to DCI Redwood, was the two efits. Operation Grange wanted to trace the ‘man of the efits’.

The Crimewatch programme, as with the Channel 4 Documentary in 2009, rehearsed the McCanns’ account of events.

During the programme, the BBC mentioned that Martin Smith had once thought that the man he had seen that night was Gerry McCann, but said he had now ‘changed his mind’.

Some people became very excited after the progamme about one of the two efits which they believed to be an image of Gerry McCann. Many of them telephoned the BBC to say so. Most of these people assumed that Operation Grange presented this image to the public because they really suspected Gerry McCann was the man seen by Martin Smith.

Others, like myself and U.S. child expert Wendy Murphy, called the programme a ‘con’ and a deliberate attempt to promote a fake abductor and to maintain the abduction narrative in the minds of the British people.

In December 2017 Irish journalist Gemma O’Doherty said she had spoken to Martin Smith who had confirmed to her that he still maintained that he had seen Gerry McCann on the night of 3 May 2007. She contacted the BBC who, she says, changed their record to omit the claim that Martin Smith had ‘changed his mind’.

Today, there is a chorus of voices maintaining that Gerry McCann was seen by Martin Smith carrying Madeleine, dead, on the night of Thursday 3 May.

There are many others who believe either that the Smiths saw someone else that night, or that their accounts were fabricated.

How much support each view has is difficult to gauge.

There is no settled forum view on Smithman. Anyone who still believes that Gerry McCann walked by Martin Smith and his family at 10pm on 3 May is welcome to contribute an informed and reasoned justification for their belief.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t15532-the-theory-that-smithman-gerry-mccann-carefully-explained?highlight=smithman




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Post by pauloalexandre on 02.09.20 2:02

One thing that strikes me as odd about the whole McCannman affair is that Mr. Amaral didn't give any credibility to Jane Tanner - rightfully so, I may add - because of her precise description of Tannerman, who she says she saw in a street with weak lightning, but he doesn't apply the same logic to the Smiths' alleged sighting, which contains the same problems and discrepancies.

Now, he doesn't come to any definitive conclusions with regards to the statements made by the Irish family and says that it's a lead that needs to be followed up, as any professional detective would say. It is, after all, a line of investigation that remains pretty much a mystery, even if one concludes that the Smiths' statements are not credible.

The whole topic surrounding the Smiths' sighting is very divisive, with some even resorting to petty attacks against MMRG for not showing the same exaggerated appreciation for the reliability of their word. The fact of the matter is that, there's no corroborative evidence to prove this claimed sighting ever happened.

Tannerman/Smithman/Sagresman/McCannman have been used to mislead investigators and the public, and distract their attention away from looking at what it's palpable and concrete - the evidence; however, each one of these 4 boogeymen hold the key to understanding how the abduction narrative was concocted, and how the 3rd May death theory is sustained to this very day.

If the story of an abduction was concocted, it is because Madeleine McCann was never abducted.

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Post by Verdi on 02.09.20 2:09

@pauloalexandre wrote:Tannerman/Smithman/Sagresman/McCannman have been used to mislead investigators and the public, and distract their attention away from looking at what it's palpable and concrete - the evidence; however, each one of these 4 boogeymen hold the key to understanding how the abduction narrative was concocted, and how the 3rd May death theory is sustained to this very day.

If the story of an abduction was concocted, it is because Madeleine McCann was never abducted.
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If only a few more people would wake-up to the facts that are as clear as the nose on the face.

I say facts with undying confidence.

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Post by Silentscope on 02.09.20 10:52

That Henry Exton, a man who may have had insider knowledge about certain persons, produced the two E-Fits that look like the Podestas instead of one E-Fit of a Mr Smith Suspect raises the question why?

To inform with subtleness, or mislead and discredit the sighting?

I hope the BKA are waking up.
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Post by Verdi on 02.09.20 12:28

The e-fits published by Operation Grange, said to be drawn-up with the help of the Smith family (read Martin Smith) bear little or no resemblance to either of the Podesta brothers - it's mischief in the making.

This particular subject has nothing whatsoever to do with the BKA.

Thank you for your comments on this very important research/reference sub-forum!

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