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Post by tigger 07.12.13 11:56

Rather than trying to fit the broken pieces of nine statements together to make one whole, unifying theory, how should the night have gone?

Note: this is all theoretical, all actors and actions are figments of my imagination.

So how should the night have gone?

7.30 the apartment is prepared, the bed (the very bed that was of no interest whatsoever to any of the dogs) is laid out as if a someone is about to get into it. A soft toy, quite new and a pink blanket are laid on the bed. Underneath the window on another bed the twins are fast asleep, two cots pushed up against the side to prevent them falling off the bed. The biggest twin, Sean,  is dressed in white and pink pyamas with long sleeves. The apartment has been cleaned, sofa pushed against the wall just in case.


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The McCanns arrive at the restaurant where they meet their friends.

9.05 GM goes to check on the children. He checks the lay-out of the apartment, everything  is fine.  Goes back to Tapas at 9.15.  

9.35 GM goes to apartment - ostensibly to check, in fact to pick up comatose Sean who has curly, longish very blond hair.  May even have been shoulder length by then. Making sure he carries a scent  (almost any scent will do, e.g. after shave on the blanket and on shoes or soap) from the apartment on his shoes rubs them with the appropriate substance. He  walks into PdL, with the intention to be seen by one or two passers by and leaving a scent trail leading away from the apartment.
He is seen by a couple leaving a bar and by one or two others. It is a cold night so few people are out.
He returns via the beach and arrives back at the apartment around  10.05
For all this  period of time he has the alibi of the Tapas friends.

10.00 alarm is raised. The toy and the blanket are proof positive she has not wandered off (not that we’ve ever seen a photograph of M with cuddlecat, and it seems to have spent considerable time with Kate - e.g. in the mortuary at a time when one might suppose M to want to have her inseparable toy with her).

Shutters are raised at the same time. Window is opened.  Sean’s pyjama top is changed and both twins are put in a cot, in the middle of the room.  

10.15 OC is alerted, police has been called.

10.45 Police arrive with S and R dogs,  GNR ask for clothes, are given the blanket, the dogs find a trail leading into PdL.
Prepared photographs and information is passed to GNR on arrival. GNR do not find it strange that these are ready in such number in just over an hour after the child is gone.
GNR do not wonder why instead of getting photographs ready, haven’t they searched the neighbourhood.
GM also performs  the freemason request for help, making a 90 degree angle with his body and roaring ‘like a bull’. The GNR, freemasons to a man, tell him by way of their own secret signs they understand their brother in need and not to worry...

11.30sh PJ arrive.  They are a bunch of local plods and are most impressed by the fact the victims of this terrible crime are doctors. It is clearly not necessary to ask them questions, they are doctors and can be trusted. Besides they are British and therefore a superior race. They apologise for not having a Royal Navy, failing royals of any kind...
The search is fully set in motion, all shutters can be proved to have been down, including those of the patio doors. The shutter to the children’s room is rolled right up and the PJ  agree it can only have been done from outside.

The PJ agree, having been given the  times the children were checked, that the abduction took place between 9.35 and 10.00 pm. The following day that time is put at around 9.45 when two independent witnesses come forward who have seen a man carrying a blonde child who seemed to be in a hurry.
This is confirmed by the trail the dogs have followed.

PJ agree that paedophiles must be responsible for the abduction and act accordingly.
They  also understand that parents in Britain have large back gardens and leaving their children alone is something that everybody does from time to time.

Following days statements and alibis are confirmed by the friends and staff.  

Lawyers are on their way and PR is in place by the evening of the 4th. Twenty-four hours after the alarm was raised.
Back-up from influential sources is in place as is the world-wide press release of photographs and ‘the story’.
Ambassador arrives in PdL.


That’s it, could have worked, but didn’t.
Derived from my theory that the crux of the matter is the merging of two separate stories. Jeremy Wilkins was an accidental complication, the 9 Smiths were too inquisitive and the whole problem of the timelines would not have arisen had this not been the case.
There was initially no need to write any timeline at all. Otherwise it would have been ready, there was also no need for MO's check.It's quite possible that the lone man with child in PdL was to be  the only abductor to be seen and bundleman was a late correction.

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The ruffled bed is explained at a later date as having been slept in by Kate after a row with Gerry/ or because he snored/ whatever, there was an excuse for no apparent reason to explain the bed looking as if it had been slept in. Imo that is true, it was the twins, a great deal was made in the blog in the following weeks that the twins were sleeping in actual beds.)

The toy and the blanket: (not that we’ve ever seen a photograph of M with cuddlecat , and it seems to  routinely have spent  time with Kate - (e.g. in the mortuary at a time when one might suppose M to want to have her inseparable toy with her).

The dogs: Gerry complained within an hour , I believe on two occasions, that there were no dogs. They turned up around 2 in the morning. The handlers asked for clothes, they got the blanket.

The description of the two sightings gives more or less someone who could be both, same colour trousers, hair, top.

TM harried JW to some extend about the time he met with GM. It’s clear from his statement that 9.15 would be the very latest and imo he is much more likely to have met GM before 9.00 pm.

This was an actual time and place and after the return from the PdL walk it was decided to concentrate on the JW meeting and JT sighting, as this provided both an independent alibi to back up the T7’s and fixed a time for the abduction.
However, it was very much on the cards that the group who’d seen him and spoken to him, being English speaking, would turn up the following day to report their sighting.
Therefore the JW meeting/JT sighting had to be as close as possible in time and appearance to the Smith one.

The subsequent delay in reporting this made the need of linking the two very much less important. So much so that the Smiths sighting could be pushed to a later time (10.00), the distance between the two sightings doubled (there is a remark somewhere from TM  that it was a mile whereas it is half a mile) .  

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Permanent residence in Portugal, sale of Rothley Towers to fund search, many millions in Ltd. Co.
Dedicated parents chuck their high status jobs to work the rest of their lives for lost children. Father is persuaded to stand for parliament. Brilliant career in politics, ending up as? PM? Surely not.... pray2 pray2 

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The dogs: Gerry complained within an hour , I believe on two occasions, that there were no dogs. They turned up around 2 in the morning. The handlers asked for clothes, they got the blanket.


I've always thought that Gerry's insistence on having the dogs there from so early on suggested that he knew there was no chance of them leading the way to Maddie. But he wanted to be seen to be doing everything possible, apart from actually physically searching of course. I mean, that would just be a waste of time....
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Post by mysterion 07.12.13 15:13

I am so not up to speed on this case. 5A should have been treated as a crime scene from the start with a police guard. What is all this stuff about the witnesses having any kind of access to 5A or any of Madeleine`s clothes etc.?; Sounds informal to me. What one earth were GM & KM doing in 5A when the dog searches were being carried out?
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Post by cockerspaniel 07.12.13 16:26

an enjoyable read Tigger,thanks.

BTW, I know lots of mothers who are nurses and even a couple of mothers who are Gp`s, and to my knowledge none of them have EVER taken their child`s "cuddlecat" to work, let alone wiping it all around the mortuary!  As we all know as parents these sacred sleep toys almost never leave the bed,the trauma/aggravation  being to high a price to pay should they go missing.

Sorry but IMHO I don`t believe KM took cuddlecat ANYWHERE !

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Post by Angelique 07.12.13 16:28

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The dogs: Gerry complained within an hour , I believe on two occasions, that there were no dogs. They turned up around 2 in the morning. The handlers asked for clothes, they got the blanket.


I've always thought that Gerry's insistence on having the dogs there from so early on suggested that he knew there was no chance of them leading the way to Maddie. But he wanted to be seen to be doing everything possible, apart from actually physically searching of course. I mean, that would just be a waste of time....
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I think this is quite an interesting way to look at the evening of 3rd May.

Its strange that even though we have a theory that it didn't go to plan some of the "foul ups" if you like, were used at later dates. For instance, the dogs. He did ask for "dogs' to track but this would have been futile if no scent can be found. But he also used it again at a later stage to cause confusion about the EVRD dogs, our dearly loved Eddie and Keela.

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Post by tigger 07.12.13 17:03

O yes, that way he could even answer 'yes' whilst attached to a polygraph. Although in fact they'd asked for the FBI to investigate - weirdest thing can you imagine that in the UK?
The PJ decided to engage the dogs.

Gerry had by then already paid a visit to the US but it still wouldn't explain why the FBI should get involved, they have a rather longer list at present of unsolved disappearances of children, Baby Lisa being one.
What do you think of the US connection?
Jon Corner distributing photographs on the morning of the 4th 'according to US protocol for missing children' - that's unusually well informed...
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Post by Mirage 08.12.13 0:25

cockerspaniel wrote:an enjoyable read Tigger,thanks.

BTW, I know lots of mothers who are nurses and even a couple of mothers who are Gp`s, and to my knowledge none of them have EVER taken their child`s "cuddlecat" to work, let alone wiping it all around the mortuary!  As we all know as parents these sacred sleep toys almost never leave the bed,the trauma/aggravation  being to high a price to pay should they go missing.

Sorry but IMHO I don`t believe KM took cuddlecat ANYWHERE !
Just a few things surfaced in my mind and I don't know if there are some dots to join.

Re Cuddlecat, IIRC this was said to be an early birthday present.

I may be mistaken on this, but I seem to recall it was given to MM by Jon Corner, who I believe was her godfather. If this is the case, did he pop round with it prior to their trip?

I'm thinking also of Cuddlecat peeping out of the back of KM's rucksack going into Portimao police station. It was just such an in-your-face signal. But what exactly was its message?
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Post by Angelique 08.12.13 1:48

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"Jon Corner distributing photographs on the morning of the 4th 'according to US protocol for missing children' - that's unusually well informed...
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National centre for missing and exploited children HQ , US Amber alert...."

IMO it suggests pre-planning - if G had left this until after his vision in the Church it wouldn't be suspicious. It was a slip I think - too eager - it suggests that he had a 'list' and had jumped forward. The FBI - as soon as I read this my thoughts were he was "acting panic" for the benefit of the PJ. But low behold they did appear. So this must have been on 'the list' of help they would have. But he blurted it out. This is why I think the phrase from Kate when asked by Jane Hill about searching and Kate said "we were working really hard" - I think they were and had meetings every day - she refers to Control Risks  in The Book. Some of the time they are accidentally giving information about what really was happening behind the scenes.I do think they had a agenda given to them  in the real sense but don't know why G insisted on showing us his "flip chart" - almost cynically "in your face". Didn't these charts come into fashion in Empowerment/Confidence weekends.


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Post by ultimaThule 08.12.13 5:09

mysterion wrote:I am so not up to speed on this case. 5A should have been treated as a crime scene from the start with a police guard. What is all this stuff about the witnesses having any kind of access to 5A or any of Madeleine`s clothes etc.?; Sounds informal to me. What one earth were GM & KM doing in 5A when the dog searches were being carried out?
Before you make any judgement of the Portuguese police, I suggest you go to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and familiarise yourself with the events of that night starting from the point where the first phone call was made to the police which, according to independent witness statements, was some one and half hours after the alarm was raised and according to the statements of the Tapas 9.  some 50 minutes after KM discovered Madeleine had been 'taken'.  During the intervening period K&G did nothing to prevent the Ocean Club world and his wife wandering in and out of the bedroom from which Madeleine had disappeared and where the twins remained soundly sleeping.  

If UK police were called to the home of a couple who left their 3 young children alone in an unlocked apartment while they cavorted with their friends in a bar some 65 yards away returning to find one child missing with no sign of a break-in, they would initially assume the child had woken up and gone out to look for her parents.  In these circumstances, they would alert all patrol cars in the area and begin a local search.  The house would not be treated as a crime scene until a thorough search of the area had been made and the media would not be alerted until the possibility of kidnap for ransom had been ruled out.  

Due to the time which elapsed before the first call to the police was made, the UK media and the UK ambassador to Portugal were on the case before the GNR arrived and a photo of a much younger Madeleine, drawing particular attention to the visible and readily identifiable colomba in her right eye, was distributed to news services without the knowledge, and against the advice, of the Portuguese police.  

It's a credit to the PJ that the apartment was sealed within a short time of their arrival.  Reading the aforementioned files will leave you in no doubt that the ensuing investigation was carried out with a thoroughness which would put many UK police forces to shame  and, as demonstrated by their response when Tia Sharpe was reported missing, it is a supreme irony that the Met is one of those forces.
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Post by tigger 08.12.13 5:12

Angelique wrote: Didn't these charts come into fashion in Empowerment/Confidence weekends. Unquote

Brilliant deductions, thank you. As for confidence I think Gerry could have tutored Mussolini - I'm having visions of Gerry at such a weekend: spit coffee 

Cuddlecat, Kate with her ponytail and green and yellow ribbons, her smocky tops, perfectly presented by imo some very good PR, who were in place within 24 hours. Image is everything, add the prop Cuddlecat and the world falls over itself to give money to this child/woman.

Cuddlecat.co.uk and Cuddlecat.org.uk both domains registered and linked to the Madeleine site within weeks seem to be all part of the wider agenda.
Just like you, the moment I saw that photograph of Gerry and his presentation, I saw a man who could finally get on with a plan.

Jon Corner had a type of toy business. If CC is linked to him - hmmmm

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Post by ultimaThule 08.12.13 5:58

GM tutor Mussolini? nah  As Angelique says, he can't keep it zipped and he gives the game away every time.  Whether this is because the wee one is terminally stupid or terminally conceited, believing himself to have an intellect so superior to others that his utterances are way above the understanding of mere mortals, is a matter of debate.   To my mind, conceit is stupidity personified but I'm willing to listen to any opposing point of view.  

But enough about me big grin what about you?  You've done it again in producing a considered and reasoned account which works for those who believe the evening of 3 May 2007 was in itself a red herring; a pantomime enacted to persuade others that a child, whose body had been concealed hours/days earlier, was alive and taken from her bed by a stranger within a time period which gave those responsible for this heinous crime the nearest thing to cast-iron alibis they could manufacture.    

Your account also works for those who believe a child's body was concealed during that time period and debunks any theory which has panic and haste as its central tenet.

roses  Here's to you, tigger  cheerleader  drinks  Blue print becomes you and your new status is richly deserved  clapping :flower:
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Post by ultimaThule 08.12.13 6:36

cockerspaniel wrote:an enjoyable read Tigger,thanks.

BTW, I know lots of mothers who are nurses and even a couple of mothers who are Gp`s, and to my knowledge none of them have EVER taken their child`s "cuddlecat" to work, let alone wiping it all around the mortuary!  As we all know as parents these sacred sleep toys almost never leave the bed,the trauma/aggravation  being to high a price to pay should they go missing.

Sorry but IMHO I don`t believe KM took cuddlecat ANYWHERE !
Much was made in the UK press of KM being a GP but she has not undertaken the 3 year vocational training required before a general practitioner can establish their own practice and, immediately prior to Madeleine being 'taken', was working part time one and a half days a week as a locum GP for a practice within easy travelling distance of her home.  

As such, KM (or KH as she is known to the GMC) would have been attending and treating patients registered on the lists of doctors who were partners in the practice and her name would not appear on the approved list of local doctors who the police call on to attend road traffic accidents, administer to prisoners in custody suites, and certify death when bodies are discovered some time after the event, etc. etc, and who receive renumeration for this service.

It's possible that, as part of her duties as a locum, KM made house calls to terminally ill patients some of whom may have died in her presence, but it's unlikely she would have accompanied any corpse to a mortuary, nor would she ordinarily have been required to attend any such establishment.    If a patient expired in the surgery while she was on duty, it's equally unlikely the body would have remained in situ long enough for cadverine to contaminate her clothes and the infamous cuddlecat whose regular presence in her work bag, and adventures out of it and on deceased patients, defies belief.

On closer scrutiny, KM's medical career is somewhat chequered.  On qualifying she began training to become a gynaecologist but on decamping to New Zealand she unaccountably found herself working in a neonatal ICU.   What Katy Did in the period after her return to the UK, and before and immediately after her marriage to Gerry, is unclear.  At some point she began training in anaethesthiology but, as far as can be ascertained, this was another speciality where she failed to stay the course and failed to qualify.

Just goes to show what a pizza hat can do for reputation enhancement big grin
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Post by Guest 08.12.13 9:49

Oh dear. It all comes back to me now.

Some years ago I attended some deathbeds: the doctors officiating with the death certificates arrived immediately upon the death of the patient, the nurses and the close relatives assisting at the actual passing away; 

The female -part-time- doctors then checked if indeed death had definitely occurred, just 'feathering' the naked eyeball of the deceased but not otherwise touching them;

Then they filled out the required documents and left. 

At no point in time did these doctors take the deceased on their lap, step into bed with them pressing their pants agains their legs/bodies, or stroke them with some fluffy toy at their disposal. 

Also, these doctors arrived within 5-10 minutes of the death, being residents on standby at the hospital for just these duties. 

Makes you wonder if they do things differently in the UK, doesn't it? 

How did poor Kate manage to soil her pants with no less than 6 corpses in the few weeks before her holiday? 

We've all considered many spooky scenario's, haven't we, but Necrophilia surely wasn't one of them, or was it?
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Long term effects:
Permanent residence in Portugal, sale of Rothley Towers to fund search, many millions in Ltd. Co.
Dedicated parents chuck their high status jobs to work the rest of their lives for lost children. Father is persuaded to stand for parliament. Brilliant career in politics, ending up as? PM? Surely not....  pray2 pray2 
Thinking about this further, I'm sure you're correct (about the Portugal bit anyway!) I think that's why they look so happy during the early weeks there, they're finally getting on with their new life with the twins and without tragic, troublesome Maddie.

One question which then arises though is, why May 3rd? Was it their choice or forced on them by external events? It's fascinating, I find, to dwell on how all the little worlds collide. If the plan had gone ahead on May 2nd instead, for instance, the Smiths wouldn't have been leaving the next day so wouldn't have been heading back to their apartment at that time. Maybe then we'd have had Jonesman instead? And he might be a much more reliable sighting...
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Post by ultimaThule 08.12.13 11:05

It's no different in the UK, Portia.  Where death occurs in hospital, the task of certifying death is delegated to junior house doctors who are fresh out of medical school and poorly renumerated for the number of hours they are required to work.  When its intended that the body is cremated extra forms are required  for which the funeral directors pay a fee to the certifying doctors, this perk being known in the trade as 'ash cash' smilie 

Your mention of necrophilia reminds me of the late and much lamented Stiff Records whose slogan was 'If it ain't Stiff, it ain't worth a f*^k'  big grin which in these less innocent days has an unpleasant connotation with the late and unlamented medallion-wearing track suit bottomed knight whose charitable works were a disguise for considerably less  altruisitic pursuits .

I wonder if it's entirely coincidental that, after her marriage, KM decided to pursue training in the art of rendering people unconscious, which is a hands-off branch of medicine in that minimal touching of patients is required, and her spouse's career in this respect is also worthy of scrutiny.

Having opted for lecturing in sports medicine after med school, GM gave surgery a whirl in NZ and it seems he didn't make the cut, no pun intended.  Returning to lecturing in the UK, he subsequently applied to become a Registrar in cardiology which, again, is a branch of medicine which requires little physical contact with patients.   It's my understanding he's now to be found in the research labs which are about as far away from the doctor/patient coalface as it's possible to get.

It's curious that it has been left to Phil promote the message that these two doctors 'save lives' when I would have expected a queue of grateful patients eager to sing their praises to the tabloids - especially the gentleman whose life was saved by Dr Gerry on the occasion of his first flight back to Blighty where his good deed was subsequently rewarded by a thief who nicked his wallet.  It seems to me Clarrie missed a golden opportunity to pass round the collection plate and stick a pizza hat on his client's head. confused
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Post by Guest 08.12.13 13:50

Dr GM was portrayed as a heart surgeon first. He was never a heart surgeon. 
Even the PJ thought he was, however, as evidenced by a remark of one of the investigating PJ officers, cited in GA' book: 'Remember, this is a man who cuts up real people before breakfast', or words to that effect. 

Who benefitted from giving out this false information, & moreover, for not clearing up this issue with the PJ right from the start?

Why would GM have wished to be regarded as having a superior education/training than he really had, as he well knew? 

Why did he want the PJ to think he was a surgeon?
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I think his correct title is consultant cardiologist.

It could perhaps have been a misunderstanding as to what that does and doesn't entail.
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As I understand it, GM was not a consultant cardiologist in 2007 - he was a registrar which is a considerably less exalted position in the pecking order.

It's not known what surgical speciality he attached himself to in NZ but to become a cardiothoracic surgeon takes some 6-9 years of training after graduation from med school and a year spent in 2 different specialities of 6 months duration in a hospital before full registration with the GMC as a doctor of medicine becomes effective.  

As inexperienced med school graduates take up their first NHS hosptial placements at the beginning of August of each year, a wise patient makes sure they're covered by BUPA  or similar private healthcare scheme during the months of August-October when mortality rates in NHS hospitals have been known to rise.

There's no shortage of hospitals in Scotland, or Glasgow for that matter, and it's curious that GM, who chose to study and work after graduation in his hometown and who returned to live and work there after his year in NZ should find it necessary to move so far south of the border in order to secure a job as a registrar.
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Post by tigger 08.12.13 16:28

Kate's medical training is detailed in chapter two ofthe book, can't make head or tail of it. Can't copy it at the moment but I also recall her saying she did six months training in anaesthetics in a maternity ward.
Whatever her training, I don't rate her IQ. i'm pretty certain she was 'advertised' as an anaesthetist at the start and in the book she tells us that she completed her studies but doesn't tell us if she passed. It was also a 'fellowship' which she droppedfor a while and then completed. i don't think that's possible.

I've read Gerry's mediocre work, the sport medicine one would have been given a C in A level imo.

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cockerspaniel wrote:an enjoyable read Tigger,thanks.

BTW, I know lots of mothers who are nurses and even a couple of mothers who are Gp`s, and to my knowledge none of them have EVER taken their child`s "cuddlecat" to work, let alone wiping it all around the mortuary!  As we all know as parents these sacred sleep toys almost never leave the bed,the trauma/aggravation  being to high a price to pay should they go missing.

Sorry but IMHO I don`t believe KM took cuddlecat ANYWHERE !
Just a few things surfaced in my mind and I don't know if there are some dots to join.

Re Cuddlecat, IIRC this was said to be an early birthday present.

I may be mistaken on this, but I seem to recall it was given to MM by Jon Corner, who I believe was her godfather. If this is the case, did he pop round with it prior to their trip?

I'm thinking also of Cuddlecat peeping out of the back of KM's rucksack going into Portimao police station. It was just such an in-your-face signal. But what exactly was its message?
I'm thinking also of Cuddlecat peeping out of the back of KM's rucksack going into Portimao police station. It was just such an in-your-face signal. But what exactly was its message?

Probably as basic as, look at me, i DO recklessly carry around  my child`s favorite  toy, so when i say it picked up the odour of cadaver whilst i was dealing with the deceased , it would have been perfectly natural for cuddlecat to have been there with me overseeing proceedings,maybe falling out of my pocket/bag on numerous occasions.  ohhhhhhh   puuuuurrr  lease .....

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Mirage wrote:
cockerspaniel wrote:an enjoyable read Tigger,thanks.

BTW, I know lots of mothers who are nurses and even a couple of mothers who are Gp`s, and to my knowledge none of them have EVER taken their child`s "cuddlecat" to work, let alone wiping it all around the mortuary!  As we all know as parents these sacred sleep toys almost never leave the bed,the trauma/aggravation  being to high a price to pay should they go missing.

Sorry but IMHO I don`t believe KM took cuddlecat ANYWHERE !
Just a few things surfaced in my mind and I don't know if there are some dots to join.

Re Cuddlecat, IIRC this was said to be an early birthday present.

I may be mistaken on this, but I seem to recall it was given to MM by Jon Corner, who I believe was her godfather. If this is the case, did he pop round with it prior to their trip?

I'm thinking also of Cuddlecat peeping out of the back of KM's rucksack going into Portimao police station. It was just such an in-your-face signal. But what exactly was its message?
I'm thinking also of Cuddlecat peeping out of the back of KM's rucksack going into Portimao police station. It was just such an in-your-face signal. But what exactly was its message?

Probably as basic as, look at me, i DO recklessly carry around  my child`s favorite  toy, so when i say it picked up the odour of cadaver whilst i was dealing with the deceased , it would have been perfectly natural for cuddlecat to have been there with me overseeing proceedings,maybe falling out of my pocket/bag on numerous occasions.  ohhhhhhh   puuuuurrr  lease .....

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Post by Guest 08.12.13 16:49

tigger wrote:

I've read Gerry's  mediocre work, the sport medicine one would have been given a   C in A level imo.
Is there any connection between Gerry and Fergus McCann, the former Celtic FC chairman?
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Post by tigger 08.12.13 16:52

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tigger wrote:

I've read Gerry's  mediocre work, the sport medicine one would have been given a   C in A level imo.
Is there any connection between Gerry and Fergus McCann, the former Celtic FC chairman?
What I know about football can be written in large print on the back of a stamp smilie  So in short, I don't know.

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Post by Guest 08.12.13 17:22

A stamp? Make that a needle pin for me winkwink 

Pity Maman isn't here. She knows "everything" about football. I kid you not.
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Post by ultimaThule 08.12.13 17:33

This thread should be linked to this one and vice versa: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

We're not talking high fliers here and whatever specialities she may have chosen, Dr KH hasn't seen any of them through.  

A GMC search shows her entry date on the GP register was March 2006 when, presumably, she either began to tout for work as a locum or had found a surgery willing to take her on.    Locums are used to provide cover as and when needed and it may be that the practice she was working for at the time of Madeleine's disppearance in May 2007 was the last of several she'd worked for during the previous year.

In any event, by my reckoning 1.5 days per week would be the equivalent of her having some 2.5 months full time GP experience in April 2007 which is a somewhat less impressive picture than the one painted by TM/MSM which implied that she was a long established family doctor.  

As for GM, his cv as shown in the other thread appears to me to have had a similar airbrushing.

Fwiw, the same GMC search shows KH is no longer licensed to practice medicine but I wouldn't read anything into that other than, having no intention of returning to medicine for the foreseeable future, a saving is being made on the annual registration fee.
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