Hindering the search for madeleine

Madeleine McCann 'is in a secret lair'
Ulster detective leading the hunt on why he thinks she’s being held captive just like Jaycee Dugard
Former detective inspector Dave Edgar, hired by the McCann family to lead the investigation into the hunt for Madeleine McCann.
BY AARON TINNEY – 13 SEPTEMBER 2009
The Ulster detective leading the search for Madeleine McCann today reveals his most chilling theories yet, exclusively to Sunday Life. Hardened ex-RUC cop Dave Edgar told us he is convinced that little Maddie is imprisoned in a hellish lair – just like kidnapped sex slave Jaycee Lee Dugard.
He insisted the "Back from the dead” reappearance of Jaycee – and the cases of Austrian cellar girls Elisabeth Fritzl and Natascha Kampusch – confirmed his suspicion.
And despite fresh leads taking his probe to Australia and Barcelona, the east Belfast man insists the golden-haired youngster is being held just 10 miles from where she was snatched in Praia da Luz two years ago.
But he warned that the sprawling wilderness where he believes Maddie is languishing is almost impossible to search completely.
Belfast-born Dave revealed the grim theories when he opened his case files to us.
We spent the day at the Cheshire office he uses to conduct the world’s biggest missing person case.
Sunday Life can now lift the lid on how his Alpha Investigations Group private eye agency really operates and what it is like to search for the world’s most famous missing youngster, who disappeared two years, four months and 10 days ago.
When we visited Dave’s headquarters, US kidnap victim Jaycee Lee Dugard had still not been rescued and the world had long forgotten her name.
But even then Dave said he was convinced Maddie was entombed by an abductor in a cellar or dungeon, like Austrian cellar victims Natascha Kampusch and Elisabeth Fritzl.
“Maddie is most likely being held captive, possibly in an underground cellar, just like Natascha or Elisabeth, and could emerge at any time,” he told us.
Days later, news broke that tormented Jaycee had been freed from the foul compound where she was abused for 18 years by monster Phillip Garrido. Dave simply said: “This just supports my theory that Maddie is alive and imprisoned.”

admin wrote:Have the McCann's ever commissioned a search of the lawless hills around PDL?
I've never heard them say "We've searched and searched the lawless hills, we've left no stone unturned and we're satisfied that Madeleine is not there, so please carry on sending in your donations because we've still got a mortgage to pay ffs."

PeterMac wrote:I love the "almost impossible to search."
The area includes a two courses a large town, a couple of villages, some decent roads, farm land and some scrub.
Remember what the Welsh have just done looking for April's remains.
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Do they think we are all cretins ?

Monty Heck wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]PeterMac Today at 11:43 am

I love the "almost impossible to search."
The area includes a two courses a large town, a couple of villages, some decent roads, farm land and some scrub.
Remember what the Welsh have just done looking for April's remains.

It is pretty amusing when the PDL area is described as though it's some kind of trackless wilderness. Even if it were, why would it be impossible to search and why, indeed have the McCs failed to do any kind of searching in that area. Why, if they believe their child is being held prisoner in that location has GMcC seldom returned, and KMcC during her various vigils seems only to visit "friends", the supermarket, the church? Why have there been no further searches of the locale organised during the past 6 years?

If they genuinely believed Edgar was right, why sit tight at home enjoying their new reality or however they described the current existence, while meantime their young child is caged by god knows who within a 10 mile radius of where she went missing? All they seem to want in PDL these days is a swift photo op as they pass quickly through, instead of decamping there until satisfied that every door has been knocked and every building has been checked out. It's not a huge area and it's not a wilderness so this should be doable. Instead they sit on their backsides dreaming up schemes for litigtion or shaping their bizarre and pointless PR strategy. Six years wasted thus far and still seems there's no urgency to go and search.

aiyoyo wrote:When people see the same headline too often then Mccanns game become transparent and obvious for all to see.

Too much publicity is a double edge sword.

I know of many people whose knowledge of the case is very little, except that the Maddie is missing, and her parents are constantly in the news repeating the same mantra with no value where the physical search for her is concerned. They concluded the mccanns are dodgy, and their behavior does not tally with their story; and came to the view that the mccanns were involved even though they knew nothing about the released files or the litigations mccanns took against individuals.

The mccanns are not fooling people. Most joe public just couldnt care less even if the mccanns are in the news because they got bored with the same old same old...

Ayniia wrote:As to the secret underground lair I don't know whether to cry or laugh. These guys should get an award for their imagination and the journalists who printed it should be awarded with a vacation in a mental institute.

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PeterMac wrote:

Ayniia wrote:As to the secret underground lair I don't know whether to cry or laugh. These guys should get an award for their imagination and the journalists who printed it should be awarded with a vacation in a mental institute.

And don't forget the secret underground Hellish lair in the lawless hinterland is tended by a predatory paed**** (who is probably on the list of dead ones) but there is no evidence that she has come to harm.

Monty Heck wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]PeterMac Today at 11:43 am

I love the "almost impossible to search."
The area includes a two courses a large town, a couple of villages, some decent roads, farm land and some scrub.
Remember what the Welsh have just done looking for April's remains.

It is pretty amusing when the PDL area is described as though it's some kind of trackless wilderness. Even if it were, why would it be impossible to search and why, indeed have the McCs failed to do any kind of searching in that area. Why, if they believe their child is being held prisoner in that location has GMcC seldom returned, and KMcC during her various vigils seems only to visit "friends", the supermarket, the church? Why have there been no further searches of the locale organised during the past 6 years?

If they genuinely believed Edgar was right, why sit tight at home enjoying their new reality or however they described the current existence, while meantime their young child is caged by god knows who within a 10 mile radius of where she went missing? All they seem to want in PDL these days is a swift photo op as they pass quickly through, instead of decamping there until satisfied that every door has been knocked and every building has been checked out. It's not a huge area and it's not a wilderness so this should be doable. Instead they sit on their backsides dreaming up schemes for litigtion or shaping their bizarre and pointless PR strategy. Six years wasted thus far and still seems there's no urgency to go and search.

plebgate wrote:

Monty Heck wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]PeterMac Today at 11:43 am

I love the "almost impossible to search."
The area includes a two courses a large town, a couple of villages, some decent roads, farm land and some scrub.
Remember what the Welsh have just done looking for April's remains.

It is pretty amusing when the PDL area is described as though it's some kind of trackless wilderness. Even if it were, why would it be impossible to search and why, indeed have the McCs failed to do any kind of searching in that area. Why, if they believe their child is being held prisoner in that location has GMcC seldom returned, and KMcC during her various vigils seems only to visit "friends", the supermarket, the church? Why have there been no further searches of the locale organised during the past 6 years?

If they genuinely believed Edgar was right, why sit tight at home enjoying their new reality or however they described the current existence, while meantime their young child is caged by god knows who within a 10 mile radius of where she went missing? All they seem to want in PDL these days is a swift photo op as they pass quickly through, instead of decamping there until satisfied that every door has been knocked and every building has been checked out. It's not a huge area and it's not a wilderness so this should be doable. Instead they sit on their backsides dreaming up schemes for litigtion or shaping their bizarre and pointless PR strategy. Six years wasted thus far and still seems there's no urgency to go and search.

Summer holidays coming up, I have never understood why they have not in the past years spent a month or so in PDL searching for Maddie during the summer hols.

plebgate wrote:
Summer holidays coming up, I have never understood why they have not in the past years spent a month or so in PDL searching for Maddie during the summer hols.

PeterMac wrote:The McCans talk of Dr Amaral, and TB "hindering the search" for Madeleine, by "purporting" theories.
But their very own private detective, Edgar, surely did exactly that some years ago.
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Madeleine McCann 'is in a secret lair'
Ulster detective leading the hunt on why he thinks she’s being held captive just like Jaycee Dugard
Former detective inspector Dave Edgar, hired by the McCann family to lead the investigation into the hunt for Madeleine McCann.
BY AARON TINNEY – 13 SEPTEMBER 2009
The Ulster detective leading the search for Madeleine McCann today reveals his most chilling theories yet, exclusively to Sunday Life. Hardened ex-RUC cop Dave Edgar told us he is convinced that little Maddie is imprisoned in a hellish lair – just like kidnapped sex slave Jaycee Lee Dugard.
He insisted the "Back from the dead” reappearance of Jaycee – and the cases of Austrian cellar girls Elisabeth Fritzl and Natascha Kampusch – confirmed his suspicion.
And despite fresh leads taking his probe to Australia and Barcelona, the east Belfast man insists the golden-haired youngster is being held just 10 miles from where she was snatched in Praia da Luz two years ago.
But he warned that the sprawling wilderness where he believes Maddie is languishing is almost impossible to search completely.
Belfast-born Dave revealed the grim theories when he opened his case files to us.
We spent the day at the Cheshire office he uses to conduct the world’s biggest missing person case.
Sunday Life can now lift the lid on how his Alpha Investigations Group private eye agency really operates and what it is like to search for the world’s most famous missing youngster, who disappeared two years, four months and 10 days ago.
When we visited Dave’s headquarters, US kidnap victim Jaycee Lee Dugard had still not been rescued and the world had long forgotten her name.
But even then Dave said he was convinced Maddie was entombed by an abductor in a cellar or dungeon, like Austrian cellar victims Natascha Kampusch and Elisabeth Fritzl.
“Maddie is most likely being held captive, possibly in an underground cellar, just like Natascha or Elisabeth, and could emerge at any time,” he told us.
Days later, news broke that tormented Jaycee had been freed from the foul compound where she was abused for 18 years by monster Phillip Garrido. Dave simply said: “This just supports my theory that Maddie is alive and imprisoned.”

(Alpha Investigations Group ? A LIE
His Headquarters ? Come off it. To have a Headquarters, you must also have other offices.)

But to the point
Has he ever resiled from this opinion. Have TM ever publicly stated that they do not agree with this line of enquiry ?
They tell the world they want us to keep 'searching', but do not specify that the search should be focussed within 10 miles of PdL.
But his words insists, convinced, and so on leave no room for doubt.
Has Edgar been hindering the search for Madeleine all along?
Should he not therefore be sued - Kevin, over to you ?

PeterMac wrote:

plebgate wrote:
Summer holidays coming up, I have never understood why they have not in the past years spent a month or so in PDL searching for Maddie during the summer hols.

Searching, or pretending to search ?
Either way it is strange that they did not.

But then, suppose they did. For what would they be searching ?
A body - surely not, that would blow the whole Fund scam out of the water.
A live girl, - Where, surely not in PdL. In the lawless hinterland of golf courses and arable fields ?
But since all the known pae*** are dead, this takes us back to point one.

And imagine the Press scrum, asking questions . . . !!
Impossible.

A though has occurred to me about golf courses, also a propos of the Amy case Anyone want to think along those lines with me !