How do you think this case will end?

by Pershing36 09.03.13 9:41

Forgive me if this has been asked before but I think it is still a viable question that can be asked again as the case changes and so do opinions.

I will be honest and give you my depressing take on it which is not a good ending whatever side of the fence you are. I personally think the case will eventually just fade away and remained unsolved. I don't think the SY investigation will conclude anything more than taken by an unknown abductor.

But what are your opinions on this, and why do you believe it will end this way.

by Guest 09.03.13 11:29

Pershing36 wrote:Forgive me if this has been asked before but I think it is still a viable question that can be asked again as the case changes and so do opinions.

I will be honest and give you my depressing take on it which is not a good ending whatever side of the fence you are. I personally think the case will eventually just fade away and remained unsolved. I don't think the SY investigation will conclude anything more than taken by an unknown abductor.

But what are your opinions on this, and why do you believe it will end this way.

Amelie and Sean McCann will start asking all the right questions and get all the answers.

by Buildersbum 09.03.13 11:47

I have such a lot of differing thoughts, one day I think as you have said it will just fade away, another day I'm of the mind that they will be arrested and charged when the time is right.

Then most days

I'm of the opinion that the way the media have stayed so quiet, PJ quiet and happy for the case to be shelved......this is about the McCanns and their MONEY, nothing more nothing less and what damage they can do to anyone who stands in their way, just because they "Had" a lot of money at their disposal to damage a lot of these people,,has imo Ended! Now it's follow the empty piggy bank, if there is no money to follow, that will be the end of McCanns and at this moment in time I don't believe they've got any money at all they've drained everyone they can....books, interviews begging etc all gone!

Anyone who was anywhere near ready to take on the McCanns have been threatened and warned off imo.

There is a time and a place for everything........the McCanns place and time is up I have no doubt about that, it's just when the PJ and SY decide friends

by Ollie1 09.03.13 13:30

The McCanns will sooner or later disappear into obscurity. The present or future government will decide how the SY review ends. It can't be any other way IMO. If the public learned that NHS doctors neglected their own children and a child possibly died and was covered up by these doctors, think of the implications for the NHS and government. If doctors could care so little for their own children they certainly won't care about their patients. The NHS would collapse, people would want to know if relatives who had died while in the care of the NHS was avoidable and had then been covered up. IMO that's why the McCanns had so much help from the government.

by Guest 09.03.13 13:49

Some would say that the NHS is on the point of collapsing under its own steam.

I really can't see how the admitted bad behaviour of a couple of chavvy doctors would by itself have any major repercussions.

I think that the review will come up with an "abducted by a stranger" verdict which would allow the fund to carry on, assuming there's anyone still daft enough to contribute to it.

If the McCanns stopped their venom-filled revenge-driven missions to bankrupt anyone who doesn't believe them, I could accept them just fading into the background.

Somehow I can't see them doing that though.

by Miraflores 09.03.13 17:18

I think it will all go quiet, and in a hundred or hundred and fifty years someone will do a programme about the unsolved case which convulsed the nation but was never solved.

Privately, I think Sean and Amelie will start to question Mum & Dad but I doubt if they will go public.

by Guest 09.03.13 17:49

Yes I think this will be one of those unsolved cases which will be talked about for generations to come, like Jack the Ripper and, perhaps with some similarities to the McCann case, that of Francis Saville Kent, an almost four-year-old boy whose murder in 1860 was never solved, possibly because it wasn't thought believable that his "respectable" family could have been involved.

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It's intriguing to think that, as the main suspect, his half-sister Constance, lived until 1944, there may be people still alive who discussed the case with her! It would have been fascinating to hear her account of events.

by Daisy 09.03.13 18:29

Jean wrote:Yes I think this will be one of those unsolved cases which will be talked about for generations to come, like Jack the Ripper and, perhaps with some similarities to the McCann case, that of Francis Saville Kent, an almost four-year-old boy whose murder in 1860 was never solved, possibly because it wasn't thought believable that his "respectable" family could have been involved.

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It's intriguing to think that, as the main suspect, his half-sister Constance, lived until 1944, there may be people still alive who discussed the case with her! It would have been fascinating to hear her account of events.

Intriguing indeed, enough to make me want to know more. Love history me.

I can't see this case exposed in my life time, absolutely no way.

by Guest 09.03.13 18:34

Yep, it looks like another "wait till they're dead" revelation.

A TV drama was made about the Kent case - here's a link to the first part of it.

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by Daisy 09.03.13 19:15

Jean wrote:Yep, it looks like another "wait till they're dead" revelation.

A TV drama was made about the Kent case - here's a link to the first part of it.

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Aye, them dastardly "wait till they're dead" revelations. Wonder how long they let them RIP though before they expose? After all, I think i'm onto a winner (& not taking the Mick) when I say they just let another one bite the dust with no consequence only accolade.

by **tigger** 09.03.13 19:20

But isn't it the case that the rest of the PJ papers will be made public in about 15 years? So that would be 2028 . winkwink

by Guest 09.03.13 19:37

@ Tigger
2028? Shouldn't that be 2023? But, jeez,I hope I'm going to make it that far ...

@ Jean
Thanks for the link to the vid re Whicher. I have the book, but haven't read it yet. I'm in Hilary Mantel's "Bring up the bodies" right now and next line-up was Pat Brown's "Murder of Cleopatra". But I might change that order now ;-)

by Nina 09.03.13 20:12

Châtelaine wrote:@ Tigger
2028? Shouldn't that be 2023? But, jeez,I hope I'm going to make it that far ...

@ Jean
Thanks for the link to the vid re Whicher. I have the book, but haven't read it yet. I'm in Hilary Mantel's "Bring up the bodies" right now and next line-up was Pat Brown's "Murder of Cleopatra". But I might change that order now ;-)

Cannot speak for your other two waiting to be read books but the Whicher book is very good and many similarities to the McCann case, right down to the discredited Detective.

by Smokeandmirrors 09.03.13 20:43

Well, Grange has been going nearly two years. With 37 people working on the case files and about 4 or 5 trips to Portugal, based on the portion of the files that were released into the public domain, that is a lot of man hours put in to something that even CM said was a "working hypothesis".
What is in the other portion of the files?
There must be something they are looking into still, and based on the "evidence" (or lack thereof) of an abduction in the released PJ files, it must be something else, surely?

The fact is, the SY review might well have come to the conclusion that the McCanns version is not credible, but equally, there might not be enough concrete material to convince the CPS that there is enough for a prosecution. It could be that the case just sticks in that awkward place between the police "knowing" what is likely to have occurred and there being enough to convince a jury "beyond reasonable doubt".

IMO, that is why the McCanns have touted themselves so much in the public eye, writing the book, appeared on Leveson and so on - in order to make it impossible for a "fair" trial. I believe that is what lies at the heart of their behaviour, scuppering, quite deliberately, any chance of neutrality. This possibly also explains why they have contradicted themselves so often - Gerry said himself it was good that no-one knew what was true and what was not! Confusion is good, it seems.

by Nina 09.03.13 21:37

Smokeandmirrors wrote:Well, Grange has been going nearly two years. With 37 people working on the case files and about 4 or 5 trips to Portugal, based on the portion of the files that were released into the public domain, that is a lot of man hours put in to something that even CM said was a "working hypothesis".
What is in the other portion of the files?
There must be something they are looking into still, and based on the "evidence" (or lack thereof) of an abduction in the released PJ files, it must be something else, surely?

The fact is, the SY review might well have come to the conclusion that the McCanns version is not credible, but equally, there might not be enough concrete material to convince the CPS that there is enough for a prosecution. It could be that the case just sticks in that awkward place between the police "knowing" what is likely to have occurred and there being enough to convince a jury "beyond reasonable doubt".

IMO, that is why the McCanns have touted themselves so much in the public eye, writing the book, appeared on Leveson and so on - in order to make it impossible for a "fair" trial. I believe that is what lies at the heart of their behaviour, scuppering, quite deliberately, any chance of neutrality. This possibly also explains why they have contradicted themselves so often - Gerry said himself it was good that no-one knew what was true and what was not! Confusion is good, it seems.

Excellent post Smokeandmirrors, I agree 100% and as well as scuppering any chance of a fair trial in their opinion it also of course led people to think that they couldn't possibly be guilty of anything untoward as they have made themselves so in the public eye at any opportunity. And the Ambassador role for the negligent mother was a real feather in her cap, I do think though that did back fire as she hasn't been seen to do much other than pose for photo opportunities.

by plebgate 09.03.13 22:24

Not sure what to think at this stage. Waiting to see what happens in Portgugal re. court case with Mr. A. At most it is only 4 months to wait so I will await that outcome. Of course something might come out in the Brooks trial (might). Who knows. Waiting game now, that's all I can think at the mo.

by lj 10.03.13 1:07

I'm with Portia here. Amaral will probably win, the SY investigation will reveal nothing new, so the situation of the McCanns will stay the same. They will say "see we're proven innocent" while the majority will believe the real conclusion that there was not enough evidence to bring them to trial, but that they themselves failed to prove their innocence.
Justice for Maddie will come through the twins, who will probably start with the question "but why didn't you come when we were crying", followed by not 48 but with an infinite number of questions that Kate cannot/ will not answer.

I also think that people more and more realize that all is not as the dubious duo pretends. They will be shunned more and more until they will not be heard from anymore.
"Oh Happy Day"

by iluvpelageya 10.03.13 2:03

It is difficult to predict the future. Often you know what is likely to happen; you just don't know when. I think that Amaral is likely to win his case. What happens then could be reliant on the British media. I can see English language copies of Amaral's books being published - possibly in the Republic of Ireland, and people entering the UK carrying armfuls of copies they bought on the Continent.

The McCs may have some money, but I should think it is fast running out. As well as the litigation and the army of hangers-on, their pot will be eroded by inflation. They will then become desperate about finding new sources of money. There will be a new bewkh, of course. But it will be about their trials and tribulations, and only the brain-dead will want to buy it. Then they might try to sell their story to Hollywood.

It is amazing what pure publicity can do. Pete Best, for example, is making a living out of being an ex-Beatle. He tells stories about the days in the Reeperbahn and the Cavern before new generations; and how he got kicked out because of his hair, his popularity with the girls etc. He also has his own two-drummer band. However, the worst accusation made at Pete Best is that the Beatles kicked him out because he was a sh1t drummer. The McCanns were never in the Beatles, and their only claim to fame is that while they were out feasting in a restaurant, one of their three kids vanished into thin air. For that reason, I believe that the passage of time will eventually make the disappearance of Madeleine less relevant. Appearances on TV will dry up. The time will come when Madeleine would have been sixteen, and all that are left are photos of a little girl in her fourth year. Of course there will be computerised images, but we only have to look at a comparison with the earliest portrait of Richard III and that stupid toby jug thing the computers came up with to see how accurate those things are!

I agree with others here that SY will come up with a load of bland waffle. However, because of the Leveson Inquiry, I do not think the McCs have not made much in the way of friends in the current government.

As I have said elsewhere, there are journalists who are sitting waiting for some calamity to happen to the McCs, and then the McCs will be crucified.

by Guest 10.03.13 6:29

I really dont know.

I sincerely hope this case does not end
because Kate & Gerry McCann get killed in a fatal car crash
or an unfortunate mishap at their home in Rothley.

I am praying real justice will be done,

for Madeleine,
for her parents
for her twin brother and sister
for sr Amaral
for Tony Bennett
for all of us

parapono