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Post by Jill Havern on 12.01.21 12:37

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President Trump has been subjected to a 4-year campaign of 'demonisation'. His admitted boasting, mistakes, exaggerations etc. have been magnified. Any way you can put a negative interpretation on his actions, this the media has done. They never mention his accomplishments.

So, take a look at his accomplishments for yourself on this link (far too much to copy and paste on the forum): https://lc.org/PDFs/Trump.Accomplishments.FINAL.pdf

Joe Biden has been in politics for far longer than President Trump, so maybe we could discuss his accomplishments on this thread too?

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Post by CaKeLoveR on 12.01.21 13:25

Amazing result, so far, of 50/50. I don't find him particularly likeable, but he is not as bad as he's painted.
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Post by Silentscope on 12.01.21 14:06

The Americans need to have a full and independent investigation that both sides can agree to be truthful before they can get over this.

Problem is the ‘winners’ are not interested in compromising and conciliation, they are now actively silencing and seeking out fellow citizens whose only ‘Crime’ was to vote against them.

‘You are either with us or against us’ 

I do not remember Trump ever saying that.
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Post by Jill Havern on 12.01.21 16:00



Sarah Huckabee Sanders OPENS UP about her career and what it was like working for President Donald Trump. She also gives the inside scoop on working in the White House and what she learned from being press secretary.

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Post by Verdi on 13.01.21 11:52

I can't muster much enthusiasm for the political world, either at home or abroad.  In my view for the most part, they live in another world - a world of make-believe and above all else, hypocrisy.  They appear to spend more time creating problems than working for the good of their own people or the world as a whole.

Warmongers craftily disguised as peacekeepers notme !

As regards President (?) Joe Biden, I pinched this from wikipedia so I can't vouch for it's accuracy..

Raised in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and New Castle County, Delaware, Biden studied at the University of Delaware before earning his law degree from Syracuse University in 1968. He was elected a New Castle County Councillor in 1970 and became the sixth-youngest senator in American history when he was elected to the U.S. Senate from Delaware in 1972, at the age of 29. Biden was a longtime member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and eventually became its chairman. He opposed the Gulf War in 1991 and supported expanding the NATO alliance into Eastern Europe and its intervention in the Yugoslav Wars of the 1990s. He supported the resolution authorizing the Iraq War in 2002, and later opposed the surge of U.S. troops in 2007. He also chaired the Senate Judiciary Committee from 1987 to 1995, dealing with drug policy, crime prevention, and civil liberties issues; led the effort to pass the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act and the Violence Against Women Act; and oversaw six U.S. Supreme Court confirmation hearings, including the contentious hearings for Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. He ran unsuccessfully for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1988 and again in 2008.

Biden was reelected to the Senate six times, and was the fourth-most senior senator when he resigned to serve as Barack Obama's vice president after they won the 2008 presidential election; Obama and Biden were reelected in 2012. As vice president, Biden oversaw infrastructure spending in 2009 to counteract the Great Recession. His negotiations with congressional Republicans helped pass legislation including the 2010 Tax Relief Act, which resolved a taxation deadlock; the Budget Control Act of 2011, which resolved a debt ceiling crisis; and the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012, which addressed the impending "fiscal cliff". He also led efforts to pass the United States–Russia New START treaty and helped formulate U.S. policy toward Iraq through the withdrawal of U.S. troops in 2011. Following the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, he led the Gun Violence Task Force. In January 2017, Obama awarded Biden the Presidential Medal of Freedom with distinction.

In April 2019, Biden announced his candidacy in the 2020 presidential election, and he reached the delegate threshold needed to secure the Democratic nomination in June 2020.[1] In August, he announced his choice of Senator Kamala Harris of California as his running mate. Biden is scheduled to be inaugurated as president on January 20, 2021.

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Painted as an all round good egg but what about the closet - I wonder what he's got hidden away there, apart from groping little children.

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Post by Verdi on 13.01.21 12:01

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Post by AnneBarnard on 13.01.21 19:18

I don't have anything particularly profound to say other than I like Trump, I think he was/is a decent bloke and I certainly would have voted for him both in 2016 and 2020.

How anyone can want Biden running things is beyond me, but then again I've never understood the vagaries of who votes for whom and why.

Anyway, yeah. I voted 'good'.

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Post by Jill Havern on 13.01.21 20:51



Donald Trump - “If”
poem by Rudyard Kipling written in 1895

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Post by PeterMac on 13.01.21 21:18

"The evil that men do lives after them.
The good is oft enterréd with their bones."
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Post by Jill Havern on 13.01.21 22:15



Jim Jordan's Case Against Impeachment Is What Every American Needs to Hear

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Post by Jill Havern on 13.01.21 23:21



New:  Video Message from President Donald J. Trump 1/13/21

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Post by Jill Havern on 14.01.21 11:25




HE CAUGHT THEM ALL!!! THE BEST IS YET TO COME!

I'd love to think so...  pray2

Scroll on a couple of minutes...

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Post by Verdi on 14.01.21 23:35



Amen bow2 .  As I said previously, it's semantics and hypocrisy.

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Post by Jill Havern Yesterday at 9:59

Here's something else to add to Trump's list of achievements:

Trump receives Morocco's highest award for Middle East work

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday received Morocco’s highest award for his work in advancing a normalization deal between Israel and Morocco, a senior administration official told Reuters.
In a private Oval Office ceremony, Princess Lalla Joumala Alaoui, who is Morocco’s ambassador to the United States, gave Trump the Order of Muhammad, an award given only to heads of state. It was a gift from Morocco’s King Mohammed VI.
White House senior adviser Jared Kushner and Middle East envoy Avi Berkowitz received other awards for their work on the Israel-Morocco deal, which was reached in December.

The United States in the last five months helped broker deals between Israel, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco. The agreements are aimed at normalizing relations and opening economic ties.
Trump, who leaves office on Wednesday, has drawn some criticism over the Morocco agreement because to seal the deal, he agreed that the United States would recognize Morocco’s sovereignty over Western Sahara.
Western Sahara has been the site of a decades-old territorial dispute between Morocco and the Algeria-backed Polisario Front, a breakaway movement that seeks to establish an independent state in the territory.

The Kushner team had been working on reaching more agreements between Israel and the Arab world. But time has run out and no more are expected before Trump’s departure.
Media were not allowed to witness the award ceremony. Trump has been limiting his public appearances since losing the election on Nov. 3.
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Post by Verdi Yesterday at 15:04

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Trump presidency: A flashback through four turbulent years

Donald Trump won a surprise victory in 2016 partly because he promised to shake things up. He leaves office with two impeachments and the nation on edge. But his supporters say he kept his promises.

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He sure did keep his promise  yes and with great panache if I might add.

He's got oodles of charisma which is more than you can say for the grin on a stick that's stolen the White House.

Right back at you  Mr President  salute  

NB:  It's Presdident Trump Mr BBC, not the Trump presidency - show some respect!

A sad day for the United States of America .... and the rest of the world.

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