Re: The Strange World of Jeffrey Epstein

by Guest 23.03.20 8:41

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] founder and multibillionaire Bill Gates said Wednesday that he “made a mistake” meeting with convicted sex criminal and wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein to discuss philanthropy.

Yeah... Bill... philanthropy... yeah...

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] – including in 2013 while he was the chairman of Microsoft – years after the disgraced financier had struck a plea deal on prostitution-related charges filed by Florida prosecutors in 2008.

Wonder why all the politicians are towing the line on the pandemic?

Dirt.

by Guest 23.03.20 8:45

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Wouldn't it be a shock if he died?

by **Jill Havern** 23.03.20 16:43

I'm not opening another thread just for this moron so I'll just dump it here, but Alex Salmond has been cleared on all counts of sexual assault.

One man believed, all women disbelieved.

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by Liz Eagles 23.03.20 20:09

It won't be too long, with all the two metre distance from another human being palaver that court rooms won't be a safe place for jurors to do their duty.

by sar 24.03.20 11:01

Jill Havern wrote:I'm not opening another thread just for this moron so I'll just dump it here, but Alex Salmond has been cleared on all counts of sexual assault.

One man believed, all women disbelieved.

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..and a "Not Proven". Which I thing they only have in Scotland?

by **PeterMac** 24.03.20 13:47

Yes. It's the Scottish version of saying
"You obviously did it, but the evidence is not sufficient to allow us to find you legally Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt"

Or saying that the Civil standard "on the balance of probabilities" applies.

WIKI
Both in the "solemn" and the "summary" acquittals, not proven is interpreted as indicating that the jury or judge, respectively, is not convinced of the innocence of the accused; in fact, they may be morally convinced that the accused is guilty, but do not find the proofs sufficient for a conviction. One reason for this is the rule that in such cases the evidence for the prosecution must be [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in order to permit a conviction. Thus, there might be a single plaintiff or witness for the prosecution, which the jury or judge believes is both truthful and trustworthy, but no other witness or circumstances against the accused. By Scottish law, the accused then should be acquitted, but often will be so by the verdict not proven.^{[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]}

by Guest 04.05.20 14:14

This is genuine.... a painting owned by Epstein.

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What the hell?

by **Jill Havern** 04.05.20 16:06

There's an article about it here, along with Bill Clinton in his frock:

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by sar 04.05.20 16:42

PeterMac wrote:Yes. It's the Scottish version of saying
"You obviously did it, but the evidence is not sufficient to allow us to find you legally Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt"

Or saying that the Civil standard "on the balance of probabilities" applies.

WIKI
Both in the "solemn" and the "summary" acquittals, not proven is interpreted as indicating that the jury or judge, respectively, is not convinced of the innocence of the accused; in fact, they may be morally convinced that the accused is guilty, but do not find the proofs sufficient for a conviction. One reason for this is the rule that in such cases the evidence for the prosecution must be [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in order to permit a conviction. Thus, there might be a single plaintiff or witness for the prosecution, which the jury or judge believes is both truthful and trustworthy, but no other witness or circumstances against the accused. By Scottish law, the accused then should be acquitted, but often will be so by the verdict not proven.^{[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]}

might be useful "elsewhere"

by **Tony Bennett** 04.05.20 20:00

In other words...

YES

NO

or

MAYBE

by Verdi 04.05.20 22:05

Oh for the simple life..

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by Doug D 30.05.20 14:09

Hadn't picked up on this before, but Netflix (known for their wonderful productions!????!) have now got four one-hour programmes on Epstein under the title 'Filthy Rich'.

Hopefully it may be better than the MM series.

by Verdi 30.05.20 14:17

I got an email notification for that yesterday.

I wonder if Jim Gamble has muscled in somewhere - or Anphony Summer and Robbyn Swansong, or even the Olive Oyl Press.

Netflix are not known for attention to detail.

by Cammerigal 08.06.20 9:31

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The current 'McCann suspect' aka the latest instalment of the German paedo story was supposed to distract the UK sheep from this story; The FBI want to interview Prince Andrew regarding his friendship and proclivities with Jeffrey Epstein.
So IF they do interview him, and he talks,what happens if they manage to link him with the elusive Ghislaine Maxwell, the 'posh spice' look alike, as per the 2007 e-fit?
MI5 must be very worried

by **PeterMac** 02.07.20 15:04

BREAKING NEWS
SKY NOW
1500 THURSDAY 2/7/20
Ghislaine Maxwell arrested by the FBI for trafficking Minors for prostitution and loads of other offences
How ~~sad~~ interesting

by Doug D 02.07.20 15:10

July, PeterMac

by **PeterMac** 02.07.20 15:14

OOOPPSS.
Amended. Thank you.
I don't even know what day it is, let alone what month

British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell has been charged with playing a role in the "sexual exploitation and abuse" of multiple underage girls by Jeffrey Epstein, according to a court filing.
Maxwell, who has kept a low profile since Epstein's death in August last year, was arrested by the FBI in New Hampshire on Thursday on charges related to the financier.

Epstein was accused of raping and trafficking underage girls over nearly two decades.
Some of Epstein's alleged victims have said Maxwell lured them into his circle, where they were sexually abused by him and powerful friends.
A court filing now made public said Maxwell "assisted, facilitated and contributed to Jeffrey Epstein's abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom, and ultimately abuse " girls under the age of 18.

Maxwell has repeated denied any wrongdoing and said some of the claims against her were "absolute rubbish".

by **Jill Havern** 02.07.20 17:56

by **Tony Bennett** 02.07.20 18:29

Epstein >>
Ernie Allen >>
Gerry McCann >>

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by Smokeandmirrors 02.07.20 20:10

Perhaps the house of cards will finally đall....

by **PeterMac** 04.07.20 7:11

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by Doug D 04.07.20 7:59

Craig Murray @CraigMurrayOrg

Part of me want Ghislaine Maxwell locked up for a very long time. Part of me wants her to cop the plea deal of the century and spill the full story on some of the world's most powerful men.
Most of me, however, expects she is going to get suicided like her boss.

4:30 pm · 2 Jul 2020

by Liz Eagles 04.07.20 7:59

Charged and incarcerated without bail.

Why do I feel this trial, if it ever gets to trial, will take around 2 to 3 years

by Liz Eagles 04.07.20 8:01

Doug D wrote:Craig Murray @CraigMurrayOrg

Part of me want Ghislaine Maxwell locked up for a very long time. Part of me wants her to cop the plea deal of the century and spill the full story on some of the world's most powerful men.
Most of me, however, expects she is going to get suicided like her boss.

4:30 pm · 2 Jul 2020

I like Craig Murray.

by Doug D 04.07.20 8:10

Yesterday there was a spoof BBC report floating around dated about 10 days time saying Ghislaine had been moved to intensive care in view of her coronavirus infection.

I meant to screenshot it, but this morning there is no trace that I can find.

by Guest 04.07.20 8:23

Liz Eagles wrote:Charged and incarcerated without bail.

Why do I feel this trial, if it ever gets to trial, will take around 2 to 3 years

I wonder if it's a comfy place of incarceration.

by Liz Eagles 04.07.20 8:28

BlueBag wrote:
Liz Eagles wrote:Charged and incarcerated without bail.

Why do I feel this trial, if it ever gets to trial, will take around 2 to 3 years
I wonder if it's a comfy place of incarceration.

She is entitled to protection.

by Guest 04.07.20 8:37

Liz Eagles wrote:
BlueBag wrote:
Liz Eagles wrote:Charged and incarcerated without bail.

Why do I feel this trial, if it ever gets to trial, will take around 2 to 3 years
I wonder if it's a comfy place of incarceration.
She is entitled to protection.

Some special prisoners get special prisons.

Open part-time ones sometimes.

I'd like to know a bit more of how she came to be arrested and where she was up to that point... was she even in the USA? I thought she wasn't.

Anyway... we'll see how this one plays out.

by Guest 04.07.20 8:43

Financial Times wrote:US officials said on Thursday that they had been keeping tabs on Ms Maxwell as they built their case. “We've been discreetly keeping tabs on Maxwell's whereabouts,” said William Sweeney, assistant director in charge of the FBI's New York field office. “More recently, we learnt she slithered away to a gorgeous property in New Hampshire, continuing to live a life of privilege while her victims live with the trauma inflicted on them years ago,” he added.

Interesting language from an official.

by Doug D 11.07.20 8:48

Official: Feds feared Epstein confidant might kill herself

Federal officials were so worried that Jeffrey Epstein’s longtime confidant Ghislaine Maxwell might take her own life after her arrest that they took away her clothes and bedsheets and made her wear paper attire

MICHAEL BALSAMO Associated Press
10 July 2020, 02:29

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