Forensics Revisited

Who said anything about a body being 4 hours old?

Pease pudding hot pease pudding cold pease pudding in the pot nine days old

sharonl wrote:If you look at Smithman in detail, he is almost a clone of Tannerman.  Now, either Smith did see this man, who according to Andy Redwood, turned up six years later with the clothes that he and his child were wearing as he carried her from the creche (even if he was going in the wrong direction) or he didn't.   Maybe it was a coincidence and he saw someone else, but as it was in bad lighting and some time had passed before he made a statement, how could he be sure of a stranger he passed briefly in the dark?

Well all know by now that there was no evidence of abduction and Tannerman was probably a red herring.  If Madeleine had died earlier in the week, giving the McCanns 4 days to forensically clean the apartment and dispose of all the evidence, why would Gerry be running around the area with a 4 day old corpse just minutes before Kate sounds the alarm.  Its just a crazy idea, another red herring to stop us looking back at those earlier days.

The Smith family claim to have seen a stranger carrying a child through the streets of Luz at approximately 22:00h on the night of 3rd May 2007, the timing I believe was ratified by Kelly's Bar till records.

22:00h is not late, particularly in a popular tourist resort, even at the end of April beginning of May.  Holidaymakers and no doubt residents alike, would be strolling around at that time of night.  Who in their right mind - even in a state of panic (unless on route to the nearest health centre even then I doubt you would walk ) would carry a corpse to who knows where?  The corpse of their own child!

Tony Bennett has worked extensively on the subject of the Smith family and their alleged sighting.  No one is asked to agree with every aspect of his work, nor even see the potential importance, but if you take the time to read and absorb his analysis, you will agree there is compelling evidence to doubt the Smith family sighting.

Martin Smith's timing and account of events was dubious in May 2007 but when he declared the stranger to be Gerry McCann, having seen video footage on television of the Mccann family's return to the UK - four months later (because of the way he carried his child).  I fear Martin Smith's credibility was blown straight out of the water.

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My stance on which the McCanns case is based and I can't share, but only with specialist interest. It's barely 
as my knowledge that I am - (may be and ) not bizarre. 
I will help whenever I can. There's so much to look through. 
Any thoughts anyone?

Tell, you what? If nobody's interested I'll blog away. No probs. 

Any interested parties - hope I hear from you. But I seem to being against the forums. 

I hope not the case, just a strong feeling.

The Smithman siting is exactly why I believe it was important to establish what everyone was wearing on the 3rd May. Regardless of what you believe, even if it is that MM died earlier in in the week, it is the one known fact that something unusual happened that night. Every small detail becomes important including what they ate, what they wore etc

As I said, we don't want this turning into another smithman thread but as your comment is more general Flossy, I'd like to ask - what is the one known fact that something unusual happened that night?

I'm only aware of the McCanns version of events, ratified by their group of friends. What was the unusual happening - have I missed or forgotten something?

Verdi wrote:As I said, we don't want this turning into another smithman thread but as your comment is more general Flossy, I'd like to ask - what is the one known fact that something unusual happened that night?

I'm only aware of the McCanns version of events, ratified by their group of friends.  What was the unusual happening - have I missed or forgotten something?

Sorry if I have been not been clear. Whichever version of events you use, the 3rd of May is still a key date. 
For example, if you believed MM was abducted on the 3rd May.... The abduction is the main unusual thing 
If you believe MM died earlier on in the time line and this was then covered up... You still have the 3rd of May as the day that MM disappearance was revealed. Whichever way you look at it, May 3rd was significant. Obviously depending on what your view is (particularly if you think the time line of events isn't correct) then the 3rd May may be more or less significant. I understand researching the time line of the holiday but I do believe that if the 3rd May was investigated again, with hopefully updated forensics, it could lead to the information needed to solve this case, just by the fact that at least something unusual happened then.

I see where you're coming from now, Flossy. SOMETHING happened on the night of 3rd/4th May. That's when the main drama was played out. That we got to know of openly.
It's all a matter of who to trust. Back even to arrival in Portugal. 
I make a suggestion  - purport an idea - I'll keep the more bizarre at bay for now.
If you had a very dark secret and a network of friends, family, colleaugues, hotel staff etc ... and you need support to carry out your plans.... how do you know who you can definitely trust with your knowledge? 
2 ways? 
1) You hold something even bigger than them. You go down, so must they. You've helped then and so they are indebted. They can't take the chance.
2) You have to know WHO can be trusted totally. How? Plant a few seeds. Water. And watch what happens. They germinate into false but credible info. Bait taken.
The trustworthy soon out themselves. Blatantly. Trustworthiness destroyed. 

So who were red herrings? Planted? Bait? Proved trustworthy? Or otherwise.

Admin - here or in unorthodox?

I go for unorthodox - heterodox! Otherwise comments from people like Lance get lost. 


As long as the unorthodox category doesn't include comments that, while they are unorthodox, are ideas out of the blue that fly in the face of evidence such as in police reports (dogs) or from high-level analysis (e.g. Peter Mac et al). 

I remain mystified by Lance's invitation to "special interest" discussions but whatever that means count me in.

Lance De Boils wrote:My stance on which the McCanns case is based and I can't share, but only with specialist interest. It's barely 
as my knowledge that I am - (may be and ) not bizarre. 
I will help whenever I can. There's so much to look through. 
Any thoughts anyone?

I have no inside knowledge, (well barely any,) because the press have covered much. But then missed loads out too. Anyway, no harm in covering some aspects again. That's what I think anyway.

It'd be better if I made sense in my posts. Sorry!

Milo wrote:I go for unorthodox - heterodox! Otherwise comments from people like Lance get lost. 


As long as the unorthodox category doesn't include comments that, while they are unorthodox, are ideas out of the blue that fly in the face of evidence such as in police reports (dogs) or from high-level analysis (e.g. Peter Mac et al). 

I remain mystified by Lance's invitation to "special interest" discussions but whatever that means count me in.

Forum member Lance de Boils has been given the opportunity to start his own thread in the debate section. A concession not normally encouraged here on CMOMM.

It remains his choice whether or not to take-up the offer.

Thank you Verdi. Yes, I will do that - probably when I'm back at home tonight. I thought it'd be preferable to tag comments on previous posts.  But I was wrong. I'll get round to it soon.

The Truth of the Lie by Dr Gonçalo Amaral

Chapter 19: Preliminary results from the tests at the British lab - Preparation of arguido questionings

PRELIMINARY RESULTS.

PREPARATION FOR THE INTERROGATIONS.

Analyses of the residues collected following the visit by the dogs is entrusted to the English Forensic Science Service laboratory. To avoid any leaks of information, Stuart Prior, a senior officer with Leicestershire police, is responsible for liaison between the laboratory and Jose Freitas of Scotland Yard. The latter, who is with us, in Portimao, is passing on any relevant reports.

We confidently wait for the evaluation reports from FSS. A few days after the samples are sent, we are informed that the DNA of the blood found in the boot of the McCanns' car shows a significant match - 50% - with Gerald's, which means that it is definitely the blood of one of his children. We telephone the public minister to pass on this initial result and wait for the follow-up to the analyses and definite conclusions But the laboratory takes its time.

At the beginning of September, shortly before the McCann couple are placed under investigation, Superintendent Stuart Prior travels to Portimao to present the first of the two preliminary reports from the laboratory and to discuss the progress of the investigation.

At a meeting in our office, with the Portuguese and the English investigation team, Stuart expresses his disappointment over the test results. This is where the saga of the FSS reports begins. We read the part of the report dealing with the traces of blood lifted from the floor of apartment 5A, from behind the sofa and in the boot of the McCanns' car and we don’t agree with Stuart’s disappointment We talk about blood traces because the CSI dog is trained to find only that bodily fluid. The reports that support that decision are clear: the CSI dog was used to detect human blood. Low Copy Number, the technique used to determine the DNA of the samples, does not identify the nature of the bodily fluid they are derived from. But we know it's definitely traces of blood and not other bodily fluids since the CSI dog is trained to detect only human blood.

In the first case, the laboratory considers that the result of the analysis is inconclusive because the samples gathered provide very little information when the DNA comes from more than one person. But all the confirmed DNA components match with the corresponding components in Madeleine’s DNA profile!.

As for the second case, after an explanation about the DNA components in Madeleine's genetic profile, it concludes that 15 out of 19 markers in Madeleine's profile are present in the sample examined. Only 4 short of 100% reliability. The FSS specialists qualify the results as, "complex," and state that these 15 markers are not enough to conclude with certainty that it's definitely Madeleine's DNA profile, especially as Low Copy Number picked out a total of 37 in the sample. That means that at least three individuals contributed to this result.

But there was more in this first preliminary report. In the same report, the scientist went further and explained that in the profiles of many of the lab experts, elements from the DNA profile of Madeleine are present. This means that a major part of the DNA profile of any given person can be built by three donors. That is understandable. Two questions arose immediately. The first one: what good is a DNA profile in terms of criminal evidence, if it can be the combination of three or more donors? Another question was simple: why did the DNA profile from those three donors contribute to Madeleine’s DNA profile and not to that of any other person, like the scientist who carried out the test? But the surprises from the preliminary reports were not to end there.

On the very day that interrogation of the McCann couple starts, a second preliminary report reaches us. Contrary to the first report, it accords more importance to the DNA profile of the blood lifted from the floor of the apartment. In that sample, the DNA came from more than one donor, but the confirmed DNA components match the corresponding components of Madeleine's DNA profile.

As for the samples lifted from the boot of the car, there is no further mention of the 15 markers, as if they had never existed.

Suddenly, light was starting to be cast on the issue: either this LCN technique is not reliable or it's simply much easier to explain the presence of Madeleine's DNA in the apartment than in the boot of a car hired 24 days after her disappearance.

At our insistence, Stuart contacts the FSS and asks them if they think the Portuguese are idiots. We hear him saying: "With a lot less than that, we would have already arrested someone in England." I look at my colleagues and see that they are as stupefied as I am. In fact, in Portugal, it's not so easy to arrest someone. We explain to Stuart that the McCanns interrogations would not result in detention. According to Portuguese law, the crimes of concealment of a corpse and simulating an abduction are not liable to remanding in custody.

WHAT THE LABORATORY REPORTS BRING TO LIGHT

The preliminary results from FSS were enlightening in a way, and confirmed the information given by the EVRD (Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog) and the CSI dog.

- The CSI dog, Keela, signalled the presence of human blood where Eddie, the EVRD dog, marked the presence of cadaver odour - on the floor tiles behind the sofa in the lounge, on the key and in the boot of the Renault Scenic that was used by the McCanns from May 27th onwards.

- the bodily fluids, according to the FSS, contain markers from Madeleine's DNA profile.

These elements do not constitute concrete proof but simply clues to be added to those we already possess. In itself, the definition of a DNA profile from LCN is not considered as evidence in a criminal investigation. In his report, the English scientist says that he cannot give answers to the following questions: when was the DNA deposited? In what way? What bodily fluid does the DNA come from? Has a crime been committed?

The scientific evidence is not enough and it has to be accompanied by other types of material, documented and testimonial evidence. It is only in this way that the entire puzzle can be reconstructed and certainties can be achieved, for the material truth to be established.

The FSS has still not provided the result of the technical analysis of the hair found in the boot of the car. Once more, Stuart has to contact the laboratory. Nothing has been done. We want to know two things: if the hair is indeed Madeleine's, and if it comes from a living or a dead person. The FSS can only answer the first question. English colleagues present at the meeting raise the possibility of the hair being sent to other European laboratories which have the resources to clear up the second point for us: hair from a living or a dead person. But the FSS does not seem to want to part with the hair. They claim that using a colour comparison test they can establish if the hair belongs to Madeleine and in a second stage, identify the DNA profile. None of that will happen. We never find out if the hair was Madeleine's or her parents' or her brother's or her sister's, even though the laboratory has the DNA profiles of each member of the family.

Let's remember: it is totally logical to find Madeleine's DNA in the home, but absolutely not in a car rented more than twenty days after her disappearance.

FINGERPRINTS ON THE WINDOW

One afternoon, we drive to apartment 5A at the Ocean Club. I am accompanied by Guilhermino Encarnacao, the indefatigable Polícia Judiciaria Director from Faro, who is following every step of the investigation, with daily trips to Portimao. Jose Freitas of Scotland Yard is accompanied by Stuart Prior, to whom we explain the theory of an accident. According to Encarnacao, the child's death must have resulted from a fall behind the sofa, where the dogs marked the odours of cadaver and blood. The theory is simple and based on evidence in our possession. The parents would have pushed the sofa away from the window as a safety precaution because the window opened easily and it was situated, remember, three metres above the outside pavement. When Gerald went to the apartment at around 9pm to check on his children, used the toilet and then left, Madeleine might have woken up. Hearing her father's voice coming from the street outside, she may have tried to reach the window by climbing on the sofa and could have fallen behind it. Stuart indicates that he understands and agrees with the possibility. He takes this opportunity to ask if any fingerprints were found on that window or on any others, particularly on the one in Madeleine's bedroom.

Initially, we don't understand why he is asking this question, since he has seen our report. He should know that fingerprints were discovered with the lophoscopic* analysis carried out on the night of May 3rd and the following day. The results are in the report. Why is he asking about them now? We respond evasively, "Nothing conclusive."

However, on the glass, on the handle and on the right-hand frame of Madeleine's bedroom window, we had lifted five fingerprints - three from a middle finger and two from an index finger - all from a left hand, identified as belonging to Kate McCann.

The technicians who examined the apartment did not place any great importance on the identification of the fingerprints. In fact, in the absence of obvious signs of assault or of a crime - like signs of a struggle, traces of blood or the presence of a corpse -, the technicians proceed to the kind of examination that is carried out in a burglary case. They forget that fingerprints discovered in a particular place, even if they belong to an occupant of the premises, can be of fundamental importance for the progress of the investigation and constitute valuable evidence, even material proof.

The window in question is the one that Kate Healy states she found open to the left, with the curtains fluttering, when she discovered that her daughter was missing. On the window, there were no signs of a break-in or of gloves. It had been cleaned the day before, May 2nd, by an Ocean Club employee, and the only fingerprints found were Kate's. The position of the fingerprints indicate that the window had been opened to the left, as Kate Healy stated: "the window was fully open to the left." There is no doubt that somebody opened that window on the evening of May 3rd and the only fingerprints found on it were those of Kate Healy. The manager of the Ocean Club's crèche, who went to the apartment after the alarm was raised, remarked that, "the window was partially open to the left," confirming Kate's earlier statement.

We prefer not to discuss this with Stuart Prior: we have the impression that he is only here to accompany the McCanns' interrogations and to prevent their detention. His concern on that subject is obvious.

Two pieces of information reach us, which we interpret as diversionary tactics with the obvious purpose of diverting suspicion from the McCanns. The first concerns the couple's active involvement in a campaign to set up an international alert system for missing children. The Policia Judiciaria is approached indirectly through the Department of Criminal Investigation in Portimao and the Directorate in Faro to participate and support the launch of the campaign. We tell the messenger that we are not the appropriate recipients of this enquiry, that the request should be sent to a higher authority, the National Director of the PJ or the Portuguese government.

The second piece of information comes to us from further afield: Beirut, capital of The Lebanon. Imagine this: an Arab sheikh possessed a video of an orgy by other sheikhs on which Madeleine was allegedly recognisable. He would be prepared to hand over this recording to the British Ambassador in exchange for a sum of money to be sent to his lawyer. Once again, we are stupefied.

- Can you believe it? A sheikh ready to denounce his mates for a few sous...Arab royalty is so strapped for cash?

- I don't understand: haven't all of our English colleagues who have been working with us already concluded that Madeleine may have died in the apartment?

- What more does Stuart need?

- I don't know what he needs. In any case, it was him who told us he had arrested people in England for a lot less.

After the interrogations, I had the opportunity to ask an English colleague about the outcome of the story. Did that video exist? What was on it? He responded that it had come to him in February or March 2007, well before Madeleine's disappearance...It would be interesting to know who, deliberately and with the sole object of scuppering the investigation, went and unearthed a video from before Madeleine's disappearance, to make people believe she was still alive...

THE McCANNS' INTERROGATIONS.
THE NERVOUS ENGLISH POLICE.

As the date for the interrogations approached, Stuart became more and more nervous and he was a constant presence. He wanted to be kept up to date on the smallest details. We explain to him what is going to happen, notably the sending of a rogatory letter to the English authorities to request specialist dog team examinations of the homes of the McCanns and their holiday friends, in Great Britain, to check if any object or piece of clothing retained any cadaver odour or blood. We ask Stuart to request that these examinations be carried out by the specialist dog team that we already know, with the same EVRD and CSI dogs, Eddie and Keela and with Stuart's agreement, we send him the letter.

We don't know what clothes the McCann couple and their friends were wearing on the evening of May 3rd. At the start of the investigation, we had requested all photos and videos from that day and from the other days, but all we received were daytime photos; it was as if in the evenings and during the now famous "Tapas," dinners, no photos had been taken despite the fact that some of the diners had cameras with them. The lack of night time photos was something we have never understood. Within the rogatory letter, we ask the English authorities to seize photos and videos taken throughout the holiday at the Ocean Club.

In the McCanns' home, we would like to check a medical monitoring chart recording Madeleine's problems with sleeping. This chart had been mentioned by Kate and according to her mother, it was only used until April 2006, when Madeleine regained a regular sleep pattern and slept right through every night without interruption. We also wish to pick up the diary that Kate started to keep from May 3rd. Finally, we would like to question the group of friends again, to confront them about their contradictions concerning their system for checking the children during the evening dinners at the Ocean Club.

At the same time, we hope to obtain a response to our request to the British authorities, made through the liaison officer in Portugal on the first day of the investigation, for information on the McCann family and their friends. Given the fact that we have, so far, received no response to this enquiry, we will make the request for the desired information through the rogatory letter. We ask Stuart about this matter and he says that, "they are in the process of gathering that information."

However, a preliminary response comes to us about the McCanns' financial situation: astonishingly, there are no records of the McCanns holding any credit or debit cards.

- That's quite simply not possible!

- They don't have credit cards? However, we know that they hold at least two: one which they used to pay for the flights, and a second which was used for the hire of the Renault Scenic.

- The English need to sort themselves out. We need the McCanns' financial statements from the start of their holiday in Portugal.

It's obvious we're going to have a hard time getting the required details: with such information, it would not be difficult to follow the McCanns' trail, to know about their expenses, their movements, and to draw conclusions from what came up. Meanwhile, Stuart makes another request. He says it would be a good idea to send two rogatory letters: one for the friends and another for the McCann couple. We don't understand this one.

FRAUD OR ABUSE OF TRUST?

During a more relaxed moment at one of these meetings, I come out with an ill-judged comment. Inopportune or undiplomatic, but this is my reasoning: thinking about the kinds of crime that may have been committed if the McCanns were involved in their daughter's disappearance, something occurs to me. If they were involved in one way or another, then a crime of fraud or abuse of trust is a possibility concerning the fund that was set up to finance the search for Madeleine. Donations have reached nearly 3 million Euros.

If such a crime exists, Portugal would not have jurisdiction to investigate and try it. The fund being legally registered in England, it would be our English colleagues who would deal with the case. Our English colleagues then realise a hard reality: the strong possibility that they would have a crime to investigate in their own country, with the McCAnn couple as the main suspects: a prospect that does not seem to appeal to them. I notice a sudden pallor in the faces of those British people present.

(*Note: analysis of difficult latent prints - latent from the Latin latere, to hide, to lie.)

Flying in the face of reality, to this day the nonsense about the Portuguese police failing to cordon-off the crime scene thus compromising forensics circulates across the mass media - even though evidence that suggested otherwise was reported by the British press long before the PJ files were released into the public domain.

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Madeleine evidence 'may be lost'

Last Updated: Sunday, 17 June 2007, 15:35 GMT 16:35 UK

Vital forensic clues may have been destroyed in the hours after Madeleine McCann's disappearance, a leading Portuguese policeman has said.

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Mr de Sousa said the forensic team's work had been complicated

Chief Inspector Olegario de Sousa said so many people entered her room looking for her after she disappeared that forensic teams faced a difficult task.

Mr de Sousa told a Portuguese paper 20 people entered the three-year-old's room the night she disappeared.

Madeleine was taken from the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz on 3 May.

Mr de Sousa said that among those who entered the room on the night she disappeared were parents Kate and Gerry McCann, other holidaymakers and friends and staff from the Ocean Club resort.

This could prove to be fatal for the investigation
Chief Inspector Olegario de Sousa

He told the Diario de Noticias newspaper: "The presence of so many people - especially in the room where the little girl slept with her brother and sister - could have at least complicated the work of the forensic team.

"At the very worst they would have destroyed all the evidence. This could prove to be fatal for the investigation."

It is thought Madeleine was snatched from the family's apartment at the Praia da Luz resort while her parents were at a nearby restaurant.

'Very unhelpful'

Samples from Madeleine's bedroom at the resort have been sent to three Portuguese forensic labs in Lisbon, Porto and Coimbra, all part of the country's Instituto Nacional de Medicina Legal (INML).

On 1 June the lab reported it had found traces of a "stranger" amid the DNA material gathered.

A source close to the family told the Press Association: "It's insensitive at the very least. Of course the family are going to search the apartment.

"If your child goes missing, you search under the beds, in the wardrobes, behind the doors, everywhere.

"It's inevitable that there were people in the bedroom. Even if what the police are saying is true, it's very unhelpful to say it publicly."

On the 45th day since her disappearance, Madeleine's parents attended a two-hour church ceremony in Praia da Luz.

"I can't think about last year and how we spent it, I honestly can't," Mr McCann, 39, said.

"I can't really think about anything else, other than how we can help try and get Madeleine back."

On Friday, the McCanns are due to set aloft 50 balloons from 50 countries to highlight the fact Madeleine will have been missing for 50 days.

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EDDIE & KEELA REPORT

08-Processo Volume 8 pages 2186 to 2188

Dog inspection report of cars searched in subterranean
garage
Canine Inspection Report
Date 6 and 7 August 2007
Place Underground parking area of 1st of May Square, Portimao.
Participants: three PJ officers; two UK police experts; Eddy and Keela, the English Springer
[Spaniels]
THE ENTIRE WORK WAS RECORDED IN IMAGE AND SOUND [on video]
On 6 August 2007, at 15h17, a canine inspection was performed in the following motor cars, this
being done on level -4 of the above-mentioned underground car park:
[list of cars: Opel Corsa; Fiat Punto; Peugeot 205; Renault Scenic; Skodia Fabia; VW Transporter;
Nissan Patrol; VW Passat; Audi A4; Renault Kangoo.]
Thus, at the hour indicated the work began, with the dog Eddy, that detects cadaver odour,
examining the whole level of the underground car park where the vehicles were parked, it having
been verified the following result:
15h27 - the dog 'marked' car number 4 - Renault Scenic - rental vehicle currently used by Gerry
and Kate McCann.
Thus, the Renault Scenic vehicle was moved to parking level -3 and subjected to an expert
examination by officers from the Police Science Laboratory and another canine inspection that
began at 03h49 on 7 August 2007 by the dog Keela, that detects traces of human blood, it having
been verified the following result:
03h53 - the dog 'marked' an area of the lower right-hand side of the interior part of the baggage
compartment of the car;
04h11 - the dog 'marked' the 'tidy' compartment [map/glove pocket] on the side of the driver's door,
which was found to contain the car key, the plastic electronic card type, with a key-ring of the
Budget rental company.
In order to confirm that the dog had effectively 'marked' the car key, that was found in the
map/glove pocket on the side of the driver's door, at 04h13, that key was retrieved from the car
and concealed in a place far distant from the vehicle on parking level -3 of the underground car
park.
At 04h14, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
At 04h50, a new inspection was performed by Eddy on the parking level -4 where the above car
key was concealed in an area far distant from the vehicle.
At 04h51, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
... the present document has been duly signed:
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08-Processos Vol VIII Page 2189

7th August 2007. 18.30 PM

Sniffer Dog Report

Location: Areas surrounding Rua da Figueira and Rua Rosmaninho (area close to apartment 5 A in the Ocean Club) Praia da Luz, Lagos

Participants:
1. PJ - Ricardo Paiva
2. UK Mark Harrison
3. UK Martin Grime, UK Forensic Canine P SM Expert
4. Eddy - English Springer

The entire activity was filmed.

On this date at 18.30 sniffer dog inspections were carried out in the areas mentioned above, using the sniffer dog Eddy, who detects cadaver odour and it was observed that in these areas, the dog did not signal anything.

Signed
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08 Processos Vol VIII Page 2190

3rd August 2007. 17.17 PM

Inspection by Sniffer Dog

Location: Apartment 5 A in the Ocean Club) Praia da Luz, Lagos

Participants:
1. PJ - Ricardo Paiva
2. UK Mark Harrison
3. UK Martin Grime, UK Forensic Canine P SM Expert
4. Keela - English Springer

The entire activity was filmed and recorded (sound).

On this date a new sniffer dog inspection was carried out in the apartment mentioned above, with the help of the dog Keela who detects human blood remains. The activity produced the following results:

19.19 The dog "marked" an area of tiles in the living room, next to the window and behind the sofa.

19.20 The dog "marked" the lower part of the left white coloured curtain of the window behind the sofa.

Signed.
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Inspection of the apartments.

Date: July 31st 2007 - 8pm. Report:

Participants:

PJ: Tavares A. & Ricardo P. Inspectors
UK: Mark Harrison, Martin Grime (UK Forensic Canine P SM Expert),
Eddie & Keela (English Springers)
Silvia B. Manager of the Ocean Club complex.

On that date, inspections were conducted in the apartments occupied by members of the McCann family as well as the group who were with them at the time of Madeleine McCann's disappearance. It was only on that date that the apartment, identified as that of the parents, was empty allowing further investigation which was authorised by the respective occupants. Thus, at the appointed time, the search with the dogs began, covering the following apartments:

5A:

From 8.30pm to 9.20pm, the dogs go through.
8.20pm: The cadaver dog, "marks," the couple's wardrobe area in the bedroom.
8.22pm: The cadaver dog, "marks" an area behind the sofa in the sitting room near the window overlooking the road.
From 8.47pm to 9.20pm, the blood detecting dog goes through.
8.10 (should it be 9.10?) The dog, "marks" an area of floor behind the sofa in the sitting room, near the window overlooking the road.

5B: 9.24 to 9.27pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

5D: 9.29 to 9.34pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

5H : 9.35 to 9.38pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

4G : 9.42 to 9.45pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

Garden belonging to apartment 5A (with access via the balcony and the steps):

9.49 to 10pm: The cadaver dog "marks" an area of the garden immediately below the window.

Date: 01 ao? 2007 - 06h00

Inspection of the surrounding areas.

Date: August 1st - 6am

After evaluation of the area surrounding the Ocean Club tourist village, based in Praia da Luz, taking account of the characteristic topography of the ground and the distance from where the small child Madeleine McCann disappeared, an inspection was carried out with the help of dogs specialised in the detection of cadaver odour, in various places, such as described:

1 - At 6.40am, an area between the "Piteira" road and the "Oliveira" road, was inspected. At 7.15am the inspection was completed with nothing being detected by the dogs.

2 - At 7.25am, an area adjacent to the "BEIJAFLOR" property on the "Figueira," road, defined by the "Ramalhete" road. An inspection of the whole area was made and nothing abnormal was noted. The inspection was completed at 7.45am.

3 - At 7.55am, an area between the "Casa Azul" residence on the "Figueira" road and the "Casa Pandora" residence as well as a dirt road on the left of the "Figueira" road was inspected by the dogs without anything abnormal being noted. The inspection ended at 8.05am.

4 - At 8.20am, an area between the residences "Casa Pandora" on the "Figueira" road, "Quinta Mimosa" and "Casa Ladeira" without anything abnormal being noted. The inspection ended at 8.40am.

A photographic report of the places inspected is attached.

Initial conclusion.

To the coordinator of the criminal investigation.

Faced with new elements revealed by the dog handling unit's search, attached to the report, and on the basis of Mark Harrison's report, there is every reason to believe that the small child Madeleine McCann died in apartment 5A where she was spending her holiday with her parents at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz. Following the markings by the cadaver odour detecting dogs and traces of human blood inside the apartment from which the child disappeared, we have done further extensive research, revealing that there was never a death, or a body, notified in this same apartment before. In this report, several places were marked, signalling the presence of cadaver odour and human blood. In addition, we can observe that a cadaver odour was detected in the garden adjacent to apartment 5A. Nothing was detected in the other residences.

It follows from this investigation that there are indications, in practice and in the facts, of the crime of murder such as defined in ArticleQI310 of the Penal Code.

So as to go further with this lead, of which certain results may reveal new evidence, we request authorisation to carry out further inspections, within the legal framework, in two distinct places:

1 - Rue des Fleurs no...The McCann family's current residence in Portugal.
2 - Rented vehicle Renault Scenic, registration ...DA - 27.

We suggest that this inspection is entrusted to the PJ and ask the Public Prosecutor for a 20 day mandate. Thus, we consider that there are indications that consolidate strong suspicions according to which, there are elements of evidence of a crime, inside the vehicle used by the McCann's and, moreover, likely to reveal important details of fundamental importance for the investigation.

Villa rue des Fleurs.

Report:

August 2nd 2007 -6.14pm - 27 Rue das Floras- Praia Da Luz - Lagos

Participants:

PJ: Ricardo P & J. Carlos P., inspectors.
UK: Mark Harrison, Martin Grime & Eddie.

On that date, within the context of a residential search, carried out at the McCann couple's current residence, an inspection by a dog handling team was made. Thus, at the time indicated at the beginning of the report, all areas of the property were inspected and the following results obtained:

6.36pm - The dog Eddie, who detects cadaver odours, "marked" the area of a cupboard in the living room. On checking, the dog was indicating a pink soft toy belonging to Madeleine McCann.

The clothes.

Date: August 2nd 2007 - 11.20pm

On that date, following the home visit made to the McCann's' current residence, on the Rue des Fleurs, various items of clothing were laid out in an appropriate place for this purpose, to carry out an inspection by the dog handling unit.

The collected items of clothing were set out individually with the agreement and under the directions provided by the British technicians, the dogs having previously covered the space where the clothing was laid out.

1 - 11.20pm: Prior reconnaissance of the place by the two canine units to guarantee that the space was clear of all odours being sought. The reconnaissance was completed at 11.30pm without anything being signalled by the dogs.

2 - 11.30pm: An initial inspection by the human blood detecting dog, began with the clothing packed in the box bearing the notation: "Living room." At 11.40pm, the inspection was completed without the dog showing anything abnormal.

11.41: The canine human remains recovery dog started its inspection and "marked" various clothes. The inspection was completed at 11.52pm. The clothes were returned to their box for later use.

From 12.02am until 1.30am, (03/08/07) all the other boxes, containing clothing from the twins' bedroom, from the friends' bedroom, from the bedroom of the couple labelled 1 & 2, as well as the empty luggage, was inspected by the two dogs without conclusive results.

Apartment 5A - OCEAN CLUB

As joinder to the procedure. It is made known and according to superior orders that today at 8pm, specialists from LPC (Police forensics lab) Fernando V. and Lino R., after having seen the recorded images resulting from the inspection by the dog handling unit on 31/07/07 in apartment 5A, duly mandated, proceeded with the collection of whole floor tiles where the dogs used in the inspection indicated the possible existence of traces of human blood as well as the presence of a body in the apartment. The tiles were lifted so as to preserve possible samples to be analysed by the appropriate laboratory. This entire action was filmed in order to illustrate the way in which the lifting was accomplished and with what tools so that the experts had a better idea of the work.

Robert Murat/Casa Liliana

Report:

August 4th and 5th 2007.

Casa Liliana, residence of the suspect Robert Murat, situated on "Ramalhete" road - Praia da Luz - Lagos.

Participants:

PJ: Tavares A., chief inspector, J. Carlos P., Ricardo P, inspectors
UK: Mark Harrison, Martin Grime and Eddie.

On that date, within the context of residential visits, which were carried out at the home of the suspect ROBERT MURAT, an inspection by the dog handling unit was made in the gardens and inside the residence of the accused.

August 4th 2007 - 7.28pm: Start of the inspection of the gardens of the residence. Eddie, human remains recovery dog, covered the whole perimeter outside the dwelling and nothing abnormal was signalled.

August 5th 2007 - 3.22pm: The same dog inspected all rooms of the residence and nothing in particular was signalled.

RUSSELL O'BRIEN

To the coordinator of the criminal investigation.

In the context of the investigation, we have collected information concerning a vehicle used by RUSSELL O'BRIEN, friend and member of the group who spent their holiday with the McCann family in the Algarve . At the time of the request for vehicles considered important to the procedures that follow, we were not aware of the identification details of this vehicle. Meantime, our investigation has led us to establish that it may be a vehicle of the "Opel" range, a "Corsa" model, registration....AG - 62. At the present time, we do not have a mandate to search for and seize the vehicle to allow us to add the vehicle to the planned inspections. As a consequence, we request such a legal mandate in order to be able to realize the planned inspections.

Samples sent to the lab.

Between 3pm on August 4th 2007 and 6.30am on August 5th 2007, the following samples were recovered in the living room of apartment 5A at the OCEAN CLUB where a murder probably took place.

Samples 1A to 3B: recovered on the floor.
Samples 4A to 13B: recovered on the wall.
Samples 14A to 15B: recovered behind the sofa.
Sample 16A: recovered from the blue curtain.
Samples 16B: recovered from the white curtain behind the blue curtain.

All of these elements have been handed over to the Birmingham Forensic Science Services. (FSS)

Samples recovered in the car.

Between August 6th at 9.30pm and August 7th at 4am, the following samples were recovered in the grey Renault Scenic car.

From the driver's side:

1A: Hair
1B: Fibre and hairs
1C: Fibres and hairs
1D: Fingernail

Front passenger side:

2A: Hair
2B: Hair
2C: Fibres and hairs
2D: Fibres and hairs
2E: Fingernail

Between the seats:

3A: Hair

Back seat:

4A: Hair
4B: Fibres and hairs
4C: Fibres and hairs

Centre seat:

5A: Hair
5B: Fibres and hairs
5C: Fibres and hairs

Right-hand seat:

6A: Hair
6B: Fibres and hairs
6C: Fibres and hairs

Luggage compartment (rear boot)

7A: Hair
7B: Fibres and hairs
7C: Fibres

8A: Hair
8B: Fibres and hairs
8C: Fibres and hairs

9, 10 and 11: Hair

12: Car key

13: Control samples of seat fabric

All of these were handed over to Birmingham FSS for analyses.
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Caution is advised when anyone makes a video or podcast or documentary or publishes a book about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - the name Peter Scharrenberg is but one that demands further scrutiny.

I don't think there can be any doubt now about how the internet is used nefariously, to easily spread mis/disinformation in order to 'influence' the reader and/or listener.

The character who roams cyberspace in the name of Peter Scharrenberg has previously published books about the case which at the time created great controversy as to motive and accuracy as regards fact and evidence.  It was discussed here on CMOMM - I'll locate the thread later.

Personally I can't condone anyone who tries to capitalize, be it financially or career advancement or nefarious intent, using a three year old child - almost certainly no longer of this world as their tool, I can't even put into words how angry it makes me.  The case of missing Madeleine McCann has certainly attracted many many of this genre of opportunists, it's disgusting!

We have here on CMOMM a decent bunch who give their time freely in pursuit of justice for a little lost soul, we don't need to sell our wares - hence the forum has been so successful for so many years.  Add to that, what is the purpose of talking to every tom dick and harry for opinion (for that is what this amounts to) about different angles of the investigation - we already have that to hand in the form of the PJ files.

Of course it could be said that any opinion is worth consideration, it might lead to that missing piece of the jigsaw [sic], yes of course that's all very well providing you stick to the basics .... the facts and evidence!

The opportunists can't do that, they have to embellish in order to market their product.  Oddly enough, some years ago I asked someone who poses as a writer why they distort the truth - the answer was 'we've all got to earn a living haven't we?'  Understandable why I get so angry.



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I don't like the Video thread being used for too much commentary on any one subject . If members wish to pursue the subject I will move to a more appropriate thread.

I've decided to move this topic over from the 'Video of the Day' thread

The video implication was that a corpse must have been in the same place for some days before being moved for the odour to be detected by the trained dogs, Eddie and Keela, some weeks/months later.  That's not my understanding but that aside.

Whatever you think of Gerry and Kate McCann, or indeed their group of friends, they are not monsters.  I can't believe for a second they would have placed their dead child in apartment 5a wardrobe to decompose for some days before moving to another location - apart from anything else, the stench would be unbearable.

I'm still with the theory that the wardrobe dog alert by Eddie the EVRD was either contamination transfer and/or the scent of blood.  Unfortunately, as clever as the trained dogs are, they can't tell exactly what or who or where or why.